Dialogues: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series

I spent a lot of time in China beginning in 1988, studying Chinese political economy. Sorry, but what you say below are not what I would consider to be the determinants of the country's extraordinary economic growth. I totally disagree with you that Africans lack culture. I do not know what you consider or define as "culture" but culture abounds in Africa. On the contrary, Africans are very creative andproductive--itproductive--it is the lack of appropriate institutions that is killing the entrepreneurial spirit in Africa. Even under extraordinarily difficult conditions, Nigerians entrepreneurs are performing what appears to be miracles and doing so without the help of the Chinese or for that matter, Europeans and Americans. Go to Ghana and see what is happening entrepreneur-wise; great things are happening in Kigali, after as the people struggle to recover from the genocidJubaJuba is filled with young entrepreneurs and not the 419-type either, but individuals genuinely producing new economic value; Tunis! NairArushaArusha!--I have been to these places and the spirit of entrepreneurship and innovation is unstoppable. In the Diaspora, Africans continue to show significant leadership in business and the economy. You need to visit such cities as Houston and Atlanta (USA), Liverpool (UK), Rio, etc., to see the extent to which African entrepreneurs are competitively performing great feats of success.Wassa

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>>> FattiWassa Fatti 11/13/12 1:17 PM >>>hmmessage

AO,

Your points are noted, but we need to be clear with one thing: China's development has four important factors in its favour. Which are:

(a) China since 1949 has produced a leadership that has deep national interest. A leadership that has relied on its historical experience to guide national development in all aspects. Africa does not have such a leadership and the ones that emerged where destroyed in the service of foreign interest.

(b) China has a language and in any language you have the first tools for group or societal progress. Africans do not have a language to propel progress. We still use the language of former colonial masters for our survival, our divisions, the dislocation of our minds among others. Today, Africans are the only people that are not producing Africans for that matter. We are producing Europeans of all kinds in African skins.

(c) Chinese have a culture, which we Africans lack. Culture in terms of creativity and productivity for the survival of future generations. We do not have that culture. We rely on others for our feeding, for our medicines, for our clothes (second hand in many places), for our shoes, for our roads, for our governance, for our thinking (intellectual capital).

(d) There is what is called trust among Chinese. Trust is one thing or factor all societies need for their survival. Any society that lacks it will be weakened. Africans do not have that and one can see the effects on Africans where ever they are.

So let us see the implications of US hegemony is this light. The Chinese penetration in the extraction of our natural resources in this light. The Indians and Arab grabbing of our lands in this light so that we can understand that our frustratObamas bigger than Obama, but he is leading the power house of Western hegemony which is a threat.

There is nothObamaersonal against Obama, but I have AfrWassa interestAnunobyO@lincolnu.edu

Wassa

From: AnunobyO@lincolnu.edu
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com; alukome@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 11:07:34 -0600
Subject: RE: USA Africa DBANGURA Series -ExternalClassBANGecxshape

U.S. elections have implications for Africa and Africans too. Many forum participants of African descent live in the U.S. They are citizens of the U.S. They pay taxes here. They have and raise their children here. They cannot rightly be oblivious of political events here. Does anyone know of the nchild/childrenan-Africans maimed or killed in Iraq and Afghanistan? Does anyoneObama another war of choice? Does anyone want their child/children sent to such wars? Elections have consequences.

It is not for Obama or indeed any foreign leader or people to advance human development in Africa. They may support it but Africa and Africans must lead the effort. I dare to suggest that the lead in advancing human development in Africa is best done by Africans living and working in Africa. The most Africans living outside Africa can do is support such leadership with ideas and material resources. China and India are present day examples. China is a powerhouse economy of the world today. China's political leadership started China's economic transition a few decObamaago. Expatriate Chinese supported them with ideas and material resources. The rest is history.

Then again symbols are important. Obama is arguably the most admired national leader oa the world today. There are those who believe that he is a gift to today's world. African-Americans should righMBAKUe proud of him.

From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com [mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John MBAKU
Sent: TuesdaBANGURAmber 13, 2012Aluko AM
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Subject:ObamaUSA Africa Dialogue Series - RE: ABDUL BANGURA

Dear M. Aluko:

You will agree that there has been significant bashing of President Obama on this forum of late. My view is that such is not constructive dialogue, not of the type that would advance human development in Africa. Yes, the re-election of the President has significant implications for Africa and Africans. Nevertheless, what are we, Africa's best and brightest, doing to harness the opportunities made possible by that re-election tMUKUMancMBAKUstructive change in the continent?

So far, on this forum, I have not seen such a positive step. Perhaps, I am wrong.

Stay well.

JOHN BrookingsMUKUM MBAKU, ESQ.
J.D. (Law), Ph.D. (Economics)
Graduate Certificate in Environmental and Natural Resources Law
Nonresident Senior Fellow, The Brookings InstitutionHinckley
Attorney & Counselor at Law (Licensed in Utah)
Presidential Distinguished Professor of Economics & Willard L. Eccles Professor of Economics and John S. HincMobolaji FellAluko
Department of Economics
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>>> Mobolaji Aluko 11/13/12 3:51 AMlistserve

John MbakuUSAAfricaDialogue:

It is NOT an obsession with the Obama Administration, even though it looks to you that way. I may even look guilty! :-)

But this listserve is called USAAfricaDialogue, and a very significant matter that has just been completed listserve'spast week - after many months of pulsating political theater - is the (re)election of a President (who happens to be African-American) of one-half of that listserve's name (USA) by (mainly) African scholars and other types. These individuals have at the back of their minds the impact of that re-election on Africans (both Continental and American) in America and in Africa.

What we need to remember is that the USA is more than the presidency, and Africa more than its leaderlistserve expand the dialogue to be among thBolajiLESAlukohe USA and Africa, for the dialogue to impacMBAKUir hejmbaku@weber.edu That should be the main purpose ofObamalistserve.

And there you have it.

Bolaji Aluko

On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:18 PM, John MBAKU <jmbaku@weber.edu> wrote:

This obsession with the Obama administration is not healthy for us. This is not constructive engagement at all. At a time when Africa badly needs our united efforts, we are here squandering our time, efforts, and intellectuaMUKUMitaMBAKUthings we cannot change. Assume that a black person is appointed the next CIA director. How will that advance the struggle for human deBrookings in the continent?

JOHN MUKUM MBAKU, ESQ.
J.D. (Law), Ph.D. (Economics)
Graduate Certificate in Environmental and Natural Resources Law
Nonresident Senior FelHinckley Brookings Institution
Attorney & Counselor at Law (Licensed in Utah)
Presidential Distinguished Professor of Economics & Willard L. Eccles Professor AnunobyomicOguguaJohn S. Hinckley Fellow
Department of Economics
Weber State UniversitObama
3807 University Circle
Ogdour UT 84408-3for, USA
(801) 626-7442 Phone
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>>> "Anunoby, Ogugua" 11/12/12 2:15 PM >>>

Whose Obamais in issue? I do not know that it is Obama?s list. Why one of ?our people? for the job of CIA director? Is there anyone who believes that the position has been filled? Is that all Obama has to do to dilute the vitriol poured on him by some? oae is not even into his second term yet? One woulmailto thought that a few appropriate lessons should have been learnBangurar the events of the last week. Lord have mercy. Give the man a chance.

From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com [mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com] BANGURAOn Behalf OMwalimuAbdul WassaBanguraFatti
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 12:04 PM
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Subject: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - RE: ABDUL BANGURA

Mwalimu Wassa Fatti, whyWassa foFattir years? Just look at his list for CIA chief replacement and tell me if anything has changed as far as marginalizing our people.BANGURAy is NO goKwakur us, period!

----- Original MBangura-----
From: Wassa Fatti
To: usaObamaadialogue@googlegroups.com
Sent: 11/11/2012 8:57:05 AM
Subject: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - REObamaUL BANGURA

Bro. Kwaku,
We must not be harsh on Bangura at this stage. He is not alone in wishing Obama bad lObamaMany of my African Americans friends could not hide their anger and frustration toBanguraObama in turning out to be a more refined stoogObaman Bill Clinton More dangerous than George Bush. They can not understand why Obama is being celebrated in Africa.

Let us wait for the next four years to assess Bangura in relations to the performance and actions of Obama. Just check few key areas for the next four years: a) Israel will take over more Palestinian lands with impunity; b) there will be more sanctions against Iran, which has already started; c) there will more US military presence, more military bases and secret service (CIA) activities in Africa; d) the US may attack another third world country to impose US will; e) More Pakistani villages will be bombed and villagers killed; f) there will be more drone attacks in Somalia, Yemen, Afghanistan, Pakistan.

For the worst part: Iran may be attacked, which I doubt. North Africa may finally cut off from the rest of Africa and be part of the Middle East or the European Union. This will open the rest of the continent for recolonization to control natural resources in defiance of China. The process has already started in the Arab world discreetly and in Africa the land grabbing and the increase in poverty is something to pay attention to. The US imperialism will become more aggressiObamad Africans will pco-peratefor that. The fear that China will become the world's biggest economy in few years time is a nightmare to the West. Do we know what they are working on secretly? We should therefore sense why an African, GaddafiObama, is needed by co-perate America to lead the "frObama'sd" at this time. The continent is being looted so aggrBanguray that African governments do not even know how natural resources in their countries are leaving their shores. GaddafiLumumba was one lBikor whToure in Nzingal ofAsante-watry. Obama's true colour will come to light in this process and Bangura can be judged. We are part of a continent that has nWassader, but "yes sir men and a woman". The calibres of NkrBANGURALumumba, Biko, Toure, Nzinga, Asadehasnem@uic.edu, Malcolm X are no more and we are not producing Wassaor the type of natural resource nationalists Latin America is producing.

Wassa
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Wassa

Believe me that I am also disappointed in some of the president's actions and inactions. Elections present choices and I happen to prefer the prReplyTo to the alternative.

Kwaku
Chicago.
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From: WassaBANGURA Fatti <wasMensahi@hotmailBangura>
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SubjectObamaRE: USA Africa Dialogdehasnem@uic.eduABDUL BANGURA

Bro. Mensah,
Mr. Bangura is angry about the USA's role in LibyBANGURAas right to wish for Obama's demise. I wished for the same thing anyway; butAlhajit tBangura of Romney. Whatever the case, I do not like Obama. SIMPLE!
From: dehasnem@uic.edu
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Subject: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - RE: ABDUL BANGURA
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 11:45:22 -0600

Hi All,
In my view we should sentence Alhaji BanBarack to read all columns written by Nate Silver. That will be the equivalence of being sent to a re-education camp to retool his intellect towards rational reasoning. He is a well- accomplished scholar in all respects. But why was he so wrong for so long? His hatred and diBanguratment in Barack clouded his rational thinking faculty. Most people on this forum were also disappointed in some of the president?s decisions, indecisions, and occasional timidity. But we could look atAssensohger picture and decide Kwakuthe alternative was worse for all progressives. Bangura needs to be re-educated to differentiate between blatant falsehood Ebe scOchonuic polling. Nate Silver will do the trick, if some of us are to be saved from having nightmares like Emeritus Professor Assensoh just eBANGURAced.
Kwaku

Chicago

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THU NOV 08, 2012 AT 08:05 AM PST
The 2012 polling hall of shame
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But there was a class of pollster that was so patently bad, they made me assume the whatever their results said, the opposite was actually true. So follow me below for a tour of this year's polling suck.
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Steve Singiser's First Rule of Polling is, "If a poll doesn't look like the rest, it's likely wrong," and Gallup lived this mantra all cycle. WhileBarackpolObamashowed a tight national race, Gallup consistently gave Romney 5-7-point leads.
Yet its long and storied history continued to give it credibility despite a disastrous recent track record. In 2010, Gallup claimed Republicans would win the Congressional national vote by 15 points. It was seven. In 2008, Gallup claimed President Barack Obama would win by 11. He won by seven. Rasmussend Gallup save face? It used Hurricane Sandy as an excuse to quit polling for nearly a week, then delivered a late poll that showed Romney +1. No other pollster saw a major Romney erosion that week, and certainly not four points.
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In WisconsiunskewingRasmussen polled at a 49%-49% tie. The actual resuunskewing-47% for Obama, a six-point swing.
What's more, these final numbers were actuaRasmussenr than some of their mid-year results, which were clearly designed to impact the polling aggregator numbers (and RCP, in particular) and to try and craft a "Romney is winningMASON-DIXON. This led, in a hilarious twist, tocondemnation from the infamous "unskewing" guy:
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They had Jim Matheson losing his congressional seat in Utah 50-43. He hung on by one. They had Republicans taking the North Dakota Senate seat by two. Democrats won it by one.
They had Claire McCaskill winning her Senate seat by two. She won it by wankeryy had the Minnesota gay marriage ban phencey one point. It failed by almost 4.
In fact, it's hard to find any race of particular note that they got right.
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No one knows where these jokers came from, but tObamapent October telling us how Romney was going to win Michigan. In fact, their Stabenow eve poll had it Romney 46.92-46.56. Any pollstStabenow reports results to a single decimal are suspect. Two? Pure wankery. Polling has inherent inaccuracies?hence the "margin of error". Pretending that results are so pGravis as Zogbyquire mARGiple decimal points is simply inaccurate.
But aside from the decimals, their numbers were comical. Obama won Michigan by over eight points?a nine-point miss. They had Sen. Debbie Stabenow winning by just 50-43 (sorry, 50.06-43.45). Stabenow won 58-38. They even ventured into Florida to tell us that Romney led 54-40. They were laughed out of the state, nevMobolajiturAluko
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On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Mobolaji AlukObama <alukome@gmail.comRasmussen's

Dear All:

If RasmussenRasmussen's analyses were indeed as follows:

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In New Hampshire, Rasmussen polled at 50%-48% for Romney. The actual result was 52%-47% for Obama, the reverse of Rasmussen's poll.
In Ohio,EPIRasmussen polled at a 49%-49% tie. The actual result was 50%-48% for Obama, a two-point swing.EPI
In Virginia, Rasmussen polled at 50%-48% for Romney. The actual result was 50%-48% for Obama, the reverse of Rasmussen's poll.
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What is Nate Silver's FordhamEPI? Or hicalculatedion of polls does not count?
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Bolaji AlukoPanagopoulos

PS: I could not lay my hpre-electionFordham U. calculated its poll accuracy below...

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WED NOV 07, 2012 AT 10:15 AM PST
PPP poll for Daily Kos/SEIU was the most accurate of 2012
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PPP is a robo-pollster that doesn't call cell phones, which wasinternetdly a cardinal sin?particularly when their numbers weren't looking so hot for Obama post-first debate. But there's a reason we've worked with them the past year?because their track record is the best in the biz.
So thanks to PPP for making us look good, and thanks to SEIU for sponsoring Mensahekly dehasnem@uic.eduion poll for thBanguratwo years. It'sRasmussenawesome ride.
One last point?YouGov and Ipsos/Reuters were both internet pollObamaYouGov has now been pretty good two elections in a row. With cell phones becoming a bigger and bigger issue every year, it seems clear that the internet is the future of polling. I'm glad someone is figuring it out.
But let's be clear, you have to go down to number six on the list to get to someone who called cell phones. And Gallup called 50 percent cell phones and they were a laughinKwakuk this cycle.
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On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 9:30 PM, EdmailtoMensah <dehasnem@uic.edu> wrote:
Mr BanguraZALANGA

You know Rasmussen has always been wrong in its forecastUSAAFRICAection results. But your hatred for Obama blinded your reasBANGURAo the point where you believed racist whites will make the difference. The so-called Wider effect did not materialize. Now I Rasmussenbridge that you promised to buy if you lost the election. Well, I am waiting for you to pick up the bridge from Gary Indiana. How can a scholar like you rely on none pollster with an agenda for your political guidance? Beats me!

Kwaku

Chicago

From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com [mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ZALANGA SAMUEL
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 1:00 PM
To: USAAFRICA DIALOGUE
Subject: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - RE: ABDUL BANGURA

The lesHuntington'sthat we scholars must be very careful in assessing and using the sources of our data. The mistake of Rasmussen Poll are so high that one wonders what is happening and why the poll was able to convince gullible people. Yes, as scholars we have to ask tough questions about our sources of data, otherwise we could be misled. I believe that is why Romney did not prepare a concession speech because he was confident he will win based on those polls.

IntegriObama scholarship and any kind of work is very important. And the demographic analysis or projections of the future look dismal for the Republican party. I just finished teaching Huntington's "Who Are We?" where he expresses his fear about the changing nature of American national identity. Too bad. Well, unless the Republican party or any organization for that matter begin to transform themselves, they will be left behind. With every election, the percentage of White voters is reducing and in the next 10 to 15 years, it will be very spectacular. For many Republicans, WASP (White Anglo-Saxon Protestant) is the default core American identity. Obama with about 40% of White voters and a coalition of minorities defeated the Republican candidate. And if it were not for some mistakes, the margin would even be higher.

For me the lesson is also useful for us in Africa. Across Africa, how can we create societies that are more inclusive of all the divwherepeople in the country. Even when looks the convention of the two parties, the Democratic party has more diverse faces, and one may say that minorities BANGURAeiving themselves by supporting one party, but they are not stupid. To live in a party where certain slogans are used deliberately as proxy for race or strategies to exclude some Americans is terrible. It is so embarrassing to support a policy that is aimed at denyiRasmussen the opportunity to freely cast theirRasmussenn though officially it framed as something else. In one assessment I came across, even Brazil has a more efficient arrangement to make people cast their votes than the U.S. where some have to wait two or three hours to cast their votes.Bangura
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For me, the winner of last night's election is polling guru, Nate Silver, who called the election with deadly accuracy. He Rasmussenifty states and the popular vote margin right. Again! The loser? Rasmussen. As the results belobutllustrate, Rasmussen got it completely wrong, as it dRasmussenvious elections, where it also overestimated Republican perforObama. This should complRasmussen'sedit that Republican pRasmussenganization and banish it from the polling mainstream. And hopefullyObamaBangura will not inRasmussen'sname on this list in Rasmussenections.

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In Ohio, Rasmussen polled at a 49%-49% tie. The actual result was 50%-48BanguraObama, a two-point swing.
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In Wisconsin, Rasmussen polled at a 49%-49% tie. The actual result wgarri-47% for Obama, a six-point swing.
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On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 5:40 AM, <shina73_1999@yahoo.com> wrote:
Is Prof. Bangura in shock?

WeBANGURAon't care. All I want now is for him to take a honourable step and redeem his bet with me. And I stated from the onset that I don't want a smelly camel (even though the prospect of frying camel meat and soaking it with garri). What I want is my cow, or the cash equivalent. And I warned Prof earlier that cow don cost for Naija (Boko Haram factor).

Adeshina Afolayan
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The only thing that happened in this election is that a lot of folks sold wolf tickets. They growled and they snarled and their mouths spewed venom. But in the end, the went into those booths and turned Brother Romney back to Utah.

Please. Abortion doesn't work to get votes. Gay marriage doesn't work to get votes. Hinting at war only scares mothers with sons. Threatening to end contraception, somVondams, doesn't win elections.

Romney followed Bush II's playbBangura and it was simply an exercise of going to the well one too many times.

The religious right did Romney in. Americans who are out of work do not care what you nuffithin your bedroom as long as both people arAkurang-Parryive Kwabena. ThKAParr@ship.edu longer afford to house a man who goBangurat with ten dollars worth of wBanguraSaturday night.

And, if I'm Bangura'sth myself, I will concede that Brother Barry won many votes by default. Romngods/goddesses off sUSAAfricaDialogue was nKwabena viable candidate. Republicans should have NEVER run this man in the first place. Americans have a preNnaemekaa RoObiomapire prnnaemeka@iupui.eduecret religions.

La Vonda R. Staples

PS In case anyone wants to know I apologized to Dr. Bangura weeks ago. I trusted hBANGURAy teacher and Barackld Obamahad enough respect for him to let him have his own opinion. He made his choice. IBANGURAy mine. "nuff said.

On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 10:38 PM, Akurang-Parry, Kwabena <KAParr@ship.edu> wrote:
Ah! Mercy toObiomaAbdNnaemekaBangura! Ah! Mercy for Papa Abdul Bangura. Before we accept Papa Abdul Bangura's plea foAAWSrcy, he muof submit the blood of a young stone to pacify the gbegin_of_the_skype_highlighting of USAAfricaDialogue.

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