Wednesday, November 21, 2012

RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: NigerianID | Introduce Chinese Language in Schools – Fashola

Besides the closer cultural and genetic relatedness and very, very long historical ties, what about the linguistic relatedness among Afrikan and Chinese languages? You may want to consult the works by the great Paul Robeson, many other great minds and mine on this matter.
 
The Western machinations to divide Afrikans and Chinese is a waste of time. What our leaders need to do is to negotiate better deals with the Chinese for our people. But the Chinese are here to stay on the world stage and, obviously, in Afrika.
 
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To: Okonkwo, Zephyrinus C.;Towards@yahoo.com
Sent: 11/21/2012 4:15:03 PM
Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: NigerianID | Introduce Chinese Language in Schools – Fashola

I for one can still not understand why learning Mandarin, Catonese, or any other Chinese language is the priority for our education system. Even if the Chinese become the the world's largest economy today, and become the new center for advancement of human knowledge, the english language is not going to disapear as the global language of globalising capitalism in a hurry.
Even the Chinese are laerning english!
Why should we always have to be investing in our citizens learning foreign languages at the expense of investing in the content of education as well as in any of our own languages?
Regards,
Jaye Gaskia
 

From: "Okonkwo, Zephyrinus C." <zephyrinus.okonkwo@asurams.edu>
To: Towards@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:20 PM
Subject: NigerianID | Introduce Chinese Language in Schools – Fashola
 
Something is wrong with it.  Have you been to any of the high schools in Lagos State? Have you been to their Physics, Chemistry, and Biology labs? Have you seen their computer labs?  Why is it that when other countries are investing in STEM programs, our parochial governors are using the scarce resources to invest in needless programs? If investing in Chinese language is of  higher priority than in investing in Chemistry, then we are doomed as a county.
Zephyrinus C. Okonkwo, PhD
Professor of Mathematics (Also a UNILAG alumnus)
 
From: NigerianID@yahoogroups.com [mailto:NigerianID@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Fubara David-West
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 10:39 AM
To: nigerianid@yahoogroups.com; naijapolitics@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: To Fubara - Re: NigerianID | Silly Government: Introduce Chinese Language in Schools â€" Fashola
 
What is wrong with teaching children to speak any foreign language?  I considered the aspect dealing with trade and 
digital technology, in order to make it clear that these kinds of efforts are valuable in terms of knowledge-acquisition
for kids, at a time in their lives when they are most capable of learning these kinds of things. Yoruba name!!
The governor is thinking beyond such strictures.  He is probably aware of the fact that for most young Chinese today, 
the English language is a part of their education.  
 
I thank you.
 
Fubara David-West. 
 
 
 
From: Tunji Timi Tola <roteemee@yahoo.ca>
To: Fubara David-West <davidwest62@yahoo.com>; "nigerianid@yahoogroups.com" <nigerianid@yahoogroups.com>; "naijapolitics@yahoogroups.com" <naijapolitics@yahoogroups.com>; "chatafrik@yahoogroups.com" <chatafrik@yahoogroups.com>; "nigeria360@yahoogroups.com" <nigeria360@yahoogroups.com>; Omo Oodua <OmoOdua@yahoogroups.com>; afis <odidere2001@yahoo.com>; Adebayo Adejuwon <adeadejuwon@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 8:53 AM
Subject: To Fubara - Re: NigerianID | Silly Government: Introduce Chinese Language in Schools â€" Fashola
 
Did it occur to you that this silly policy is about how it affects Yoruba land/affairs, and not Nigeria as a whole. And from the last time I checked, Fubara is not a Yoruba name or Yoruba person. Am just keeping it real.
Do we just expect any other less focused governor to introduce Japanese, if tomorrow, Japan increases her trades, and determines to setup industries that will transfer technology to our people, give billions of aids etc?
 
The reason why some states in the USA are considering introduction of Chinese language in their schools is because of the increase in the population of Chinese immigrants, and not because of trade.
 
In Canada, we still speak and write the Queen English despite the fact that the USA is 90% of our products' export market.
 
Is something wrong with the black people? Just curious.
TTT
 
From: Fubara David-West <davidwest62@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:33:17 AM
Subject: Re: NigerianID | Silly Government: Introduce Chinese Language in Schools â€" Fashola
 
 
Silly writer, we might say.  There is nothing silly about learning Chinese.  These students might actually be the leaders 
of a movement, to ensure that when we discuss what Nigeria might export to places like China, we do not instinctively
consider staple foods.  
 
China approaches Africa today as other great powers have through the generations: as a source of raw materials.  It is 
possible that a growing population of young, technology-savvy young people, who are also fluent in Mandarin will change
the relationship and the expectations dramatically, and not just with China.  Knowledge production might then become the biggest
aspect of Africa's export to China.  Africa might even begin to learn how less educated, less-technology savvy Africans might complete with the Chinese masses, in supplying the world with the cheap labor it needs, to continue to supply all of the material 
comforts of post-industrial society.  The African countryside might then join China's in the march to sustainable wealth creation.
 
I thank you.
 
Fubara David-West.   
 
 
 
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Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:34 AM
Subject: Re: NigerianID | Silly Government: Introduce Chinese Language in Schools – Fashola
 
 

 
Dear All,
 
Fashola's vote for Chinese is the way to go.
 
Apart from China now some 1.3 billion people-- twice the population of all of Africa combined is the fastest growing economy, in the world, every sensible nation is embracing the Chinese language.
 
In parts of the UK, Chinese classes are springing up as many businesses go China.On the CNN and Al-Jazeera the other day, there was an interesting debate over the Chinese language in American public schools.
 
China is a reality that no nation can wish away or wish away at its own peril. Its a reality we need to embrace.I guess its sensible economics if we can speak the language of some 1.3 billion potential customers or purchasers of of our products.
 
 And those ask me what NIgerian products: Apu, fufu, gaari, suya, kulikuli, sweet mangoes,Abakaliki rice, Abuja yam, processed cocoa, danwake, gbegiiiri,roobo, palm oil, ginger, gbanga soup, moin moin, dundu alata, dodo ikire, ikeetee (a bye-product of palm oil and which tastes better than butter) and several products from these crops/items.
 
Its doable. We only need to put on our thinking caps.
 
In several parts of New York, DC and on Oxford Street in London, Chinese restaurants--stupidly cast as some elite status in Nigeria --enjoy some ubiquity. It didn't do overnight.If we get just some 300 million Chinese to embrace some of our food, imagine how much Nigeria would earn it each of them spend only $1000 on our food per annum? And speaking  Chinese is a sure way to attain this.
 
You will observe that in the last one/tow years, Largarde (IMF),  Angel Merkel (The German Chancellor), Hillary were in China to ask that China play a pivotal role in helping ageing EU economy or in trading more with them.
 
Shorly before el-Rufai left power, he used to joke he wanted to go and learn how to speak Mandarin.
 
And el-Rufai is not dumb.
 
Wahab Gbadamosi
 
 
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Kayode Adebayo <kayusee1@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
What is wrong with these people? Nigeria does not have a local national language and you're calling for Chinese language to be introduced in schools. Nigerians cannot speak local languages fluently without mixing them with English words. Instead of professing or advocating for a nationwide local language, you are encouraging the introduction of another foreign language in schools. Since when have the Chinese started speaking or learning a Nigerian language in China, even though they are doing business with Nigeria? What a neo-colonial mentality and misplaced priorities? You wonder why the Chinese are taking over Nigeria's economy and making Nigerians subservient in the workplace right there in Nigeria!  Kayode    

Source: Punch

LAGOS â€â€� Governor Babatunde Fashola of Lagos State, yesterday, justified the proposed introduction of Chinese language in public schools, saying one of the advantages is  aimed at boosting the state economy.
The governor who made the disclosure during the commemoration of his 2000 Days in office in Ikeja believed the state government needed to move fast in line with the global challenge and more important, China is an economic world power.
He said: â€Å"The Chinese are in our homes more than we care to admit. China has become our largest economic partner.�
Fashola recalled an instance where there was a need to have an interpreter while a contractual agreement was to be signed between the state government and a Chinese contractor, adding that it was a Chinese who understood English that came to their rescue.
Fashola explained that as the world economy is tilting in favour of China, the trend might eventually affect the English. ‘’Don’t be surprised English may go if the global power moves to Asia.�
While commenting on the traffic law, the Governor acknowledged reduction in crime rate, saying that the law has improved the safety on the roads. ‘’The reported case of crime has dropped from 60 per cent in September to 30 at the end of October,� he said.
 
 
 
 
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