Saturday, December 1, 2012

Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Okay Ndibe: A case for abolishing democracy in Nigeria

MODIFIED

Actual Facts, Imagined  "Fact" and Simplistic Facts in Relation to  Summative Interpretation of Facts 

I acknowledge the many factual aspects of Ndibe's and similar formulations on Nigeria.

My problem with the essay  is its blanket criticism of Nigeria that goes so far as to include a falsehood  of fundamental  significance and a simplistically dismissive  summation of  the major security crisis of the nation, Boko Haram terrorism.

These two  examples suggest a tendency to simplistic dismissal of  the nationwhile ignoring the complexity and contexts of its development, a tendency  some Nigerians demonstrate.  

My problem with the Ndibe style of  Nigeria critique is that it lacks historical context.

Secondly, it also includes falsehood.

Government in Nigeria 

Ndibe expressed one gross falsehood in his first critique:

' The Nigerian president's only formula for tackling serious crises is, one, to issue a hollow speech or, two, to form a committee.'

That is patently false. 

It does not help the quality of the writer's critique to include a falsehood that may   suggest that a  writer's primary  interest in giving the country a damning report. It could suggest such an  eagerness  to declare a failed state that he  struggles to rip off the head of the country, the apex of government, as a non-government.

The business of government in Nigeria is serious business. From Aso Rock, to the various regions and states, without too much effort,  I can describe the strategies  being employed by the various components of government in running the country.

There is a lot that is unhealthy-to put it politely-with the country- but it is totally false and pure fantasy to declare that ' The Nigerian president's only formula for tackling serious crises is, one, to issue a hollow speech or, two, to form a committee.'

Coming from  a Nigerian, it is also an irresponsible statement.

Nigerians should realise that the self image of their nation and the image others have of that nation is significantly affected by their own attitudes and utterances towards the nation.

We should criticise but at least not conjure falsehoods about our own country.


Boko Haram Terrorism 

Ndibe also states:  "a country whose security apparati aren't able to curb the incessant killing of innocent Nigerians by Boko Haram"

That statement suggests total lack of understanding of the situation. 

Why?

It is a grossly simplistic perspective that suggests no understanding   of  the history,  ideological and demographic implications   and  total scope of the Boko Haram challenge and the cycles of development of this challenge. 

It demonstrates ignorance of the fact that the terrorist crisis has been consistently addressed head on by the government for years.

It also suggests that the writer has not examined the effects of the government's efforts in facing this challenge.  

Whatever one's position, I would think that one needs to at least address the issues in terms of which I think that the fight against the terrorists can be described as increasingly successful -

 1. Killing and   capturing of their members and key operatives
 2. Total ideological defeat of the group, this being of fundamental strategic  value
 3. Creating a situation where the terrorist are now described as suing for peace and negotiations and in a climate where their bargaining power is practically non-existent, and, in my view, the best thing they can do for themselves might not even be to try to negotiate-on what platform?-but to quietly disappear. 

I would like to elaborate on these points another time. 

Human Biological Relief 

Also, I object to this description of my country as unfair, unless effort is made to prove otherwise:

"where many (if not most) people defecate and pee in the open".

I dont think this is fair.

I have had memorable adventure in relation to this and wrote an essay on it "The Culture of the Toilet ", posted on this and other groups.

It is true that Nigerians do what Ndibe has described. Is it correct, however, to describe  Nigeria as one defined by that practice? May one expect to encounter that everywhere and in all contexts in Nigeria? 

Is  Ndibe's characterisation of Nigerians in that line a basic description of the truth or does it go beyond that to suggest  an exaggerated picture? Should such summations about Nigeria be qualified so as to avoid suggestions of exaggeration? 

Am I being painstaking about the semantics of describing symptoms when a more serious issue is being addressed, along the lines of  the massive problems with developing a robust water delivery and  drainage system and the need for  an effective policy on facilities for human biological relief? 

Adopting a  New Style of Government or Pursuing a  Slow Transformation of the Old One?


I see that Ndibe makes an effort to go beyond criticism to suggest a solution. I would need to read his essay carefully to better assess the entire essay and the solution it suggests. 

For now, though, I want to ask tentatively, how realistic is Ndibe's technocratic solution? 

I suspect  that Ndibe's suggestion of rulership by a technocratic elite might suggest some alienation from the complexity of Nigeria and limitations in understanding the space for action that the society provides as a nascent democracy,   unlike other much older democratic spaces such as the US and England where the political society  has coalesced  around particular formations. 

I get the impression that there might be no solution beyond the complexities   of the political process as it currently exists. 

In that regard, I suggest that it could be wise to see what can be done with the current   political process if one wants to effect change. That  suggests a long range  perspective. Anyone who wants to defeat the PDP at the Presidency, for example  , might need a ten year plan. 

How does one build a party that remains true to an idealistic vision? 

Understanding and Harnessing Dynamism/Change in Nigerian Politics 

I was struck to learn that Alex Ekwueme and other genuine statespeople-that being my general impression of Ekwueme- were foundational to forming the ruling PDP. I had thought it was purely a descendant of an alliance between the military  and Northern Nigerian power brokers grouped around   General Musa Yaradua.

I would be happy to be educated on this beceause I am particularly intrigued by this party which seems likely to remain the most powerful in Nigeria up till and beyond 2015. 

Ekwueme and others of similar seemingly idealistic vision bemoan the hijacking of the party they formed and their ousting  from the party by rough and ready elements. 

Some in the South West are decrying what they understand as the use of the mantle of Awolowo's vision to pillage the people, describing Bola Ahmed Tinubu as an example of a metamorphosis from a heroic, or perhaps deceptively heroic,  NADECO fighter to a corrupt  oligarch. 

A movement on Facebook began, it seems, by someone who calls himself Comrade Aremu for Youths, has galvanised a lot of attention, attracting a significant number of Nigerians and members of the government to debates on the way forward for Nigeria. Some in the debate are  suggesting the formation of a youth party. 


thanks

toyin




On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 7:27 PM, OLUWATOYIN ADEPOJU <tvade3@gmail.com> wrote:
Facts vs Summative Interpretation of Facts 

I acknowledge the many factual aspects of Ndibe's and similar formulations on Nigeria.

My problem with the essay  is its blanket criticism of Nigeria that goes so far as to include a falsehood  of fundamental  significance and a simplistically dismissive  summation of  the major security crisis of the nation, Boko Haram terrorism.

These two  examples suggest a tendency to simplistic dismissal of  the nationwhile ignoring the complexity and contexts of its development, a tendency  some Nigerians demonstrate.  

My problem with the Ndibe style of  Nigeria critique is that it lacks historical context.

Secondly, it also includes falsehood.

Government in Nigeria 

Ndibe expressed one gross falsehood in his first critique:

' The Nigerian president's only formula for tackling serious crises is, one, to issue a hollow speech or, two, to form a committee.'

That is patently false. 

It does not help the quality of the writer's critique to include a falsehood that may   suggest that a  writer's primary  interest in giving the country a damning report. It could suggest such an  eagerness  to declare a failed state that he  struggles to rip off the head of the country, the apex of government, as a non-government.

The business of government in Nigeria is serious business. From Aso Rock, to the various regions and states, without too much effort,  I can describe the strategies  being employed by the various components of government in running the country.

There is a lot that is unhealthy-to put it politely-with the country- but it is totally false and pure fantasy to declare that ' The Nigerian president's only formula for tackling serious crises is, one, to issue a hollow speech or, two, to form a committee.'

Coming from  a Nigerian, it is also an irresponsible statement.

Nigerians should realise that the self image of their nation and the image others have of that nation is significantly affected by their own attitudes and utterances towards the nation.

We should criticise but at least not conjure falsehoods about our own country.


Boko Haram Terrorism 

Ndibe also states:  "a country whose security apparati aren't able to curb the incessant killing of innocent Nigerians by Boko Haram"

That statement suggests total lack of understanding of the situation. 

Why?

It is a grossly simplistic perspective that suggests no understanding   of  the history,  ideological and demographic implications   and  total scope of the Boko Haram challenge and the cycles of development of this challenge. 

It demonstrates ignorance of the fact that the terrorist crisis has been consistently addressed head on by the government for years.

It also suggests that the writer has not examined the effects of the government's efforts in facing this challenge.  

Whatever one's position, I would think that one needs to at least address the issues in terms of which I think that the fight against the terrorists can be described as increasingly successful -

 1. Killing and   capturing of their members and key operatives
 2. Total ideological defeat of the group, this being of fundamental strategic  value
 3. Creating a situation where the terrorist are now described as suing for peace and negotiations and in a climate where their bargaining power is practically non-existent, and, in my view, the best thing they can do for themselves might not even be to try to negotiate-on what platform?-but to quietly disappear. 

I would like to elaborate on these points another time. 

Human Biological Relief 

Also, I object to this description of my country as unfair, unless effort is made to prove otherwise:

"where many (if not most) people defecate and pee in the open".

I dont think this is fair.

I have had memorable adventure in relation to this and wrote an essay on it "The Culture of the Toilet ", posted on this and other groups.

It is true that Nigerians do what Ndibe has described. Is it correct, however, to describe  Nigeria as one defined by that practice? May one expect to encounter that everywhere and in all contexts in Nigeria? 

Is  Ndibe's characterisation of Nigerians in that line a basic description of the truth or does it go beyond that to suggest  an exaggerated picture? Should such summations about Nigeria be qualified so as to avoid suggestions of exaggeration? 

Am I being painstaking about the semantics of describing symptoms when a more serious issue is being addressed, along the lines of  the massive problems with developing a robust water delivery and  drainage system and the need for  an effective policy on facilities for human biological relief? 

Adopting a  New Style of Government or Pursuing a  Slow Transformation of the Old One?


I see that Ndibe makes an effort to go beyond criticism to suggest a solution. I would need to read his essay carefully to better assess the entire essay and the solution it suggests. 

For now, though, I want to ask tentatively, how realistic is Ndibe's technocratic solution? 

I suspect  that Ndibe's suggestion of rulership by a technocratic elite might suggest some alienation from the complexity of Nigeria and limitations in understanding the space for action that the society provides as a nascent democracy,   unlike other much older democratic spaces such as the US and England where the political society  has coalesced  around particular formations. 

I get the impression that there might be no solution beyond the complexities   of the political process as it currently exists. 

In that regard, I suggest that it could be wise to see what can be done with the current   political process if one wants to effect change. That  suggests a long range  perspective. Anyone who wants to defeat the PDP at the Presidency, for example  , might need a ten year plan. 

How does one build a party that remains true to an idealistic vision? 

Understanding and Harnessing Dynamism/Change in Nigerian Politics 

I was struck to learn that Alex Ekwueme and other genuine statespeople-that being my general impression of Ekwueme- were foundational to forming the ruling PDP. I had thought it was purely a descendant of an alliance between the military  and Northern Nigerian power brokers grouped around   General Musa Yaradua.

I would be happy to be educated on this beceause I am particularly intrigued by this party which seems likely to remain the most powerful in Nigeria up till and beyond 2015. 

Ekwueme and others of similar seemingly idealistic vision bemoan the hijacking of the party they formed and their ousting  from the party by rough and ready elements. 

Some in the South West are decrying what they understand as the use of the mantle of Awolowo's vision to pillage the people, describing Bola Ahmed Tinubu as an example of a metamorphosis from a heroic, or perhaps deceptively heroic,  NADECO fighter to a corrupt  oligarch. 

A movement on Facebook began, it seems, by someone who calls himself Comrade Aremu for Youths, has galvanised a lot of attention, attracting a significant number of Nigerians and members of the government to debates on the way forward for Nigeria. Some in the debate are  suggesting the formation of a youth party. 


thanks

toyin



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