Debate is not identical with repeating oneself.
When you are prepared to take a step forward in first addressing how you could make the gross blunder of lumping books of various genres into one pot, and presenting another work as a rehash of those books, then you let me know.Then we can talk.
Jeyifo is not an Ikhide kind of critic. Jeyifo is Jeyifo.
Jeyifo recognises the artistic integrity of the new work as a distinctive development and is treating it accordingly. He is disturbed that a writer who has demonstrated a greater degree of reflexivity in his past works is so blind in his latest work.
You are arguing that Achebe's new book is composed largely of his old works.
Is the new book an anthology?
Now, on the issue of class in Biafra which you are argue is well served by Achebe's musing about a driver stealing his car and Achebe referring to his ambassadorial work.
Adapting a Yoruba proverb, translated by Soyinka in Death and the Kings Horseman- in describing an elephant, we do not declare we saw something in a flash-that is unworthy of the elephant.
The class issue is at the heart of the painful paradox of Biafra and cannot be adequately served by the cavalier invocations you summon. It cannot be adequately served by unreflective descriptions by Achebe of his work as an ambassador.
At the heart of this issue is the question-to what degree did class play a role in creating both a bond and a chasm between Biafrans so that different experiences of the war may have enabled the continued prosecution of a losing war by an elite who were not suffering its pains?
That is at the core of the controversial Awolowo summation about food for the people being siphoned by the elite, of which the military may be described a part of that elite in relation to non-combatants, that is what is evoked by Achebe himself in "Girls at War" on underground food markets for the elite in Biafra while the majority were left to fend for themselves through desperate measures, that is what is discussed by Ebie in Broken Back Axle: Unspeakable Events in Biafra, in his claims about fears of being second class citizens in Biafra by members of the osu caste who are discriminated against by other Igbos as being central to the fall of Biafra,a fear of second class citizenship being also central to ambivalence about Biafra by non-Igbo minorities, a concern of being co-opted into the Biafra arrangement invoked by Gowon in dividing the country into 12 states, thereby empowering minorities with political structures that diluted the appeal of Biafra and, from one account, forcing Ojukwu and his team to counter with the creation of Biafra as a means of retaining the political structure and power base Gowon was trying to dissipate.
If you want to educate yourself on this slant about ethnicity in relation to class in connection with political strategy between Ojukwu and Gowon, you may see Roy Samuel Doron, Forging a Nation While Losing a Country : Igbo Nationalism, Ethnicity and Propaganda in the Nigerian Civil War 1968-1970 who quotes a poignant comment from the famous Joe Achuzia of the mood at the meeting when they got the announcement from Gowon which one could contrast with Ntieyong Udo Akpan who argues in The Struggle For Secession, 1966-1970: A Personal Account Of The Nigerian Civil War that the vote to declare Biafra was achieved through manipulation of the delegates by Ojukwu.
Its not about coming to the market place to list the books you claim to have read. Its about constructive use of that knowledge.
Your struggle to invoke Adichie like a talisman in a discussion that does not involve Adichie is what an examiner would call out-of-point and you could be penalised for it.
Try and get training in scholarship.It will help you. You might also learn the culture of disciplined response that marks scholarship.
There might be private teachers or classes near you.
Thanks for the entertainment.
I knew you were in trouble from the moment you refused to respond in a civil manner to a civil exchange.
Esu is permanently lying in wait in such moments to aid in the crushing of hubris by leading blindness into the pit of self contradiction. All I needed to do was remain alert and pick up the spoils.
toyin
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 11:02 AM, xokigbo <xokigbo@yahoo.com> wrote:
Oluwatoyin,You are like an antelope skating on thin ice. Now you understand why I ignore your attempts at scholarship, they are largely bereft of substance.1. You have not read Chinua Achebe's book, There Was a Country, that much is obvious. In order to be a referee in a game, you must understand the game. You have no idea what you are babbling about.3. I doubt that you have read any of Achebe's books beyond Things Fall Apart. That much is obvious,2. You obviously have not read Chimamanda Adichie's book, Half of a Yellow Sun.3. Which leads to the question: Have you read anything in contemporary African literature?4. You are too ignorant for words. Plus you have issues with simple comprehension. It was Professor Jeyifo that was comparing TWAC with Achebe's previous works and I said, he clearly cannot see that much of TWAC is from those works. Go and buy the books yourself and read them and come back to talk to me intelligently. Or since you are lazy, go read Adichie's review of TWAC. I don't open mouth unless I know what I am talking about.5. Jeyifo is wrong about Achebe not talking about class in Biafra and I have proved it with at least one fact. It is stunning actually, his superficial reading of the text.6. Achebe does not need me or anyone defending him. He has defended himself and our race all his life. Even in the winter of his life he is still teaching us how to write, with rigor and scholarship. I am only defending the need for intellectual honesty and true scholarship in my generation.7. I did fall into your trap; I was under the mistaken impression that you are actually reading these books. Why should I engage your ignorance. I am a busy man, I have no time for this.
8. Happy New Year. Honestly.- IkhideIkhide,
Thank you setting a trap for yourself and falling into it.
I knew you were headed there and allowed you to do yourself in.
Well done.
How can you, in the name of Jesus Christ of Oyingbo, equate The Trouble with Nigeria, Anthills of the Savannah, Hopes and Impediments and even go further and equate them with There Was a Country :A Personal History of Biafra?
Haba!
I bin tink say you be literary critic.
Let me take your hand and lead you though this since you are not getting it.
Are those books identical in form and content?
Are you arguing with a straight face, that a work largely fictional, Anthills of the Savannah, is identical with a collection of expository essays on a broad range of topics, Hopes and Impediments and that these two are identical with a book that, unlike Anthills, focuses on one subject from a non-fictive perspective,The Trouble with Nigeria, and does not involve movement into abstract metaphysics as Achebe does superbly in the essay "The Igbo World View and its Art" in Hopes and Impediments?
Are you standing straight and arguing that this diverse body of books is identical with an effort to present a realist narrative of a historical period from a personal perspective in There Was a Country:A Personal History of Biafra?
Is this the kind of mish mash conflation you are demonstrating in gleefully declaring : "It is stunning to me that a scholar of Jeyifo's calibre could not see that Achebe's new book TWAC is pretty much a compilation of all he has been saying all these years."
Is Achebe simply rehashing the content of those books?
At this point, one has to ask-have you read these books? If so,what went wrong?
You might do well to enrol in my adult education class.
I will craft a special curriculum for you.
It will begin with a foundation in theory of genres and proceed to discussing creative transposition from life to art.
You need it, brother.
Based on the differences between these books and the fact that even if they were similar in all aspects, unless you are arguing that There Was a Country is a direct repetition of one of those books,you need to address the new imaginative and narrative nexus constituted by the new work, as Jeyifo is rightly doing, seeing it as a new development, not identical with the old productions, as your one eyed criticism is too short sighted to understand
Pull your ears tight and assimilate that first.
What is this thing you are trying to say about musings after a driver stole Achebe's car?
If you are drinking or sleepy, please go and wash your face and sit up.
Jeyifo states categorically that Achebe takes to task issues of class in Nigeria but does not do that in Biafra.
At that point,we move beyond incidental musing resulting from the theft of a car.
Let me leave you there for now.
toyin
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 3:56 AM, Ikhide <xokigbo@yahoo.com> wrote:
Oluwatoyin,You are trying to immerse yourself in depths beyond your intellectual competence and the more you open your mouth I am convinced you are a waste of my time. I am tired of giving you lectures for free and you are ungrateful to boot. I paid dearly for my education but I spent my money wisely - on the right tyoe of education. Have you read Professor Chinua Achebe's book? Where is your own "critical analysis"? No amount of pompous pretensions to scholarship will hide your ignorance of literature and Nigerian history..Go get your bifocals and read what I said about Professor Biodun Jeyifo's "critical analysis." Here, let me help you unpack my one-line.1. Three quarters of Achebe's book, There Was a Country is from his previous books, The Trouble with Nigeria, Anthills of the Savannah, Hopes and Impediments, etc. as Achebe carefully footnotes ad nauseam in his book. So how can Jeyifo say that "ethnicity, class and individuality had been superbly interwoven and productively explored" in those books, when much of the same thoughts are basically the new book that is pretty much 3/4s of the book Jeyifo cites? Does that make sense to you?2. It is stunning to me that a scholar of Jeyifo's calibre could not see that Achebe's new book TWAC is pretty much a compilation of all he has been saying all these years. He obviously did not see that. That alone makes his "critical analysis" worthless scholarship. How can you ask me to take seriously such critique.3. Has Jeyifo read Adichie's Half of a Yellow Sun? That book is the most updated and elegant discussion of class not only in Biafra but in Nigeria. Have you read Half of a Yellow Sun? Have you, Toyin? What, for heaven's sakes, have you read?4. How can Jeyifo in all seriousness say that Achebe did not discuss class in TWAC? He must be reading a pirated copy of the book with the substantive pages ripped off. Achebe makes clear that he was part of the intellectual elite, he was traveling the West, doing propaganda on behalf of Biafra. He had a "driver" who made off with his car and belongings one day. The resulting musing is as lucid a discussion of class as you'll ever get. It is the job of the astute reader to deduce these things. I honestly have no idea what Jeyifo is talking about. He needs to read the text more closely before any more "critical analysis" or whatevr pablum passes for scholarship around here.Look, Toyin, if you are going to engage me civilly, I am happy to reciprocate, but trust me I am good at throwing punches and they land where I want them to land. Don't get me started on you, because I have all day and all night. Go and read TWAC. Go and read Adichie's HOAYS and then come back and talk to me. Until then sit down before me. And learn something.Happy New Year.- IkhideStalk my blog at http://www.xokigbo.com/Follow me on Twitter: @ikhideJoin me on Facebook: www.facebook.com/ikhideFrom: OLUWATOYIN ADEPOJU <tvade3@gmail.com>
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Ikhide,Please, come off it.You wont escape through that door.If you really think you are in a position to criticise Jeyifo, do us a favour and do a critical analysis of the Jeyifo essay with close reference to the Achebe text you are both referring to.All you have provided so far is a one line dismissal, an effort I can easily show as of little illumination if I were bothered to do so.You might not like my thinking, but you will observe my consistent painstaking efforts to present my case, often using a range of scholarly references.Are you giving us a serious analysis or not?If you persist in presenting uncritical denunciation, I will persist in calling out your actions for what they are.
toyinOn Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Ikhide <xokigbo@yahoo.com> wrote:Dear Oluwatoyin Adepoju,You are obviously poorly read in all the right things, that is not my problem, and no amount of faux scholarship can hide your ignorance of matters that you should know stuff about. It is not my fault that at your age you only came across serious scholarship about Biafra this year. You ought to be grateful to people like me, your real lecturers who try gamely to salvage you from your pit of ignorance. I have spent much of my life educating myself on that which is important to my future and that of people that look like me. You on the other hand, only your God knows what he did to you.Read my submission again, Biodun Jeyifo's analysis is dead in the water because he clearly does not realize that much of Achebe's new book is recompiled from all the books he listed. Which renders his analysis inchoate, if not entirely worthless. Opinions I respect, but they must be based on facts.And you know, you and your ilk take me seriously and I keep you up at night while I dance to my gods and enjoy the occasional glass of cognac. My gods have been good to me, on the other hand, your gods were cranky and distracted when they glued you together. Now go to your next class where they teach you how to be a misgynist.- Ikhide- IkhideStalk my blog at http://www.xokigbo.com/Follow me on Twitter: @ikhideJoin me on Facebook: www.facebook.com/ikhideSubject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - First, There Was A Country; Then There Wasn't: Reflections On Achebe's New Book (2)From: OLUWATOYIN ADEPOJU <tvade3@gmail.com>
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Ikhide,
Sorry, but you are not really saying much about the Jeyifo contribution.
Your comments do not achieve much beyond express an unsubstantiated displeasure.
If you are to be taken seriously as a pro-Biafra critic, which you see yourself as being, you need to do better than just display displeasure and be seen to engage in serious and informed analysis of the subject you address.
toyinOn Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Ikhide <xokigbo@yahoo.com> wrote:"In all of Achebe's books on our pre-colonial and postcolonial experience, he had come closer than perhaps any other writer to this conception and practice of realism. More specifically, ethnicity, class and individuality had been superbly interwoven and productively explored in such titles as No Longer at Ease, A Man of the People, Anthills of the Savannah, The Trouble with Nigeria and Home and Exile. Thus, in my opinion, There Was A Country marks a radical rupture in Achebe's writings on our country, a rupture in which the realist rigour of his previous writings gives way to, or is considerably modified by a mystique, an apologia, an uncompromising defense of Igbo ethno-nationalism. I do not think that Achebe took this path in a fit of absent-mindedness; to the contrary, I think it is a decision, a choice he made in this new book quite deliberately and purposively."- Professor Biodun Jeyifo on Achebe's There Was A Country.There is a reason why Professor Biodun Jeyifo's tortuous (so far) serial analysis of Professor Chinua Achebe's book is so far flying like a lead balloon; it makes little sense because it is poorly researched. Take the above statement, I just wonder how many of these books of Achebe's he has read. If he has read them closely, then he has a curious way of showing it. I also am quite suprised how little of Achebe's books beyond TFA many of our star intellectuals have read. It is a shame really.As Achebe carefully footnotes ad nauseam in his book, much of the new book can already be found in, yes, No Longer at Ease, A Man of the People, Anthills of the Savannah, The Trouble with Nigeria and Home and Exile. So how can you say that "ethnicity, class and individuality had been superbly interwoven and productively explored" in those books, when much of the same thoughts are basically the new book?Jeyifo is trying awkwardly to hide his huge ethnic bias by accusing Achebe of the same and of a lack of objectivity, it is comical, really. The only reason we are reading all this wahala (or trying to, my eyes glaze over the ancient history of alphabet soup parties, UPGA, NNA, blah blah blah) is because Achebe trained his rage on Awolowo. So all the Awoists are being trotted out to write absolutely dreadful "book reviews."Finally all that mumbling about ethnicity and tribalism is beyond baffling. It makes little sense in the 21st century and I am now convinced that Jeyifo and I read two different editions of Achebe's wondrous book. Jeyifo and I live in a free country, the great USA and so I would say feel free to keep writing about Achebe if it rocks your boat. But if you are looking for a clear-eyed review of Achebe's books, do not look to Jeyifo :-D LOL!- IkhideFrom: Chido Onumah <conumah@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 9:43 PM
Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - First, There Was A Country; Then There Wasn't: Reflections On Achebe's New Book (2)
--First, There Was A Country; Then There Wasn't: Reflections On Achebe's New Book (2)By Biodun JeyifoSuperficially, it was understandable to conclude that this was indeed "an Igbo coup". However, scratch a little deeper and complicating factors are discovered: One of the majors was Yoruba, and Nzeogwu himself was Igbo in name only…he was widely known as someone who saw himself as a Northerner, spoke fluent Hausa and little Igbo, and wore the traditional Northern dress when not in uniform.Chinua Achebe, There Was A CountryIn the end, I began to understand. There is such a thing as absolute power over narrative. Those who secure this privilege for themselves can arrange stories about others pretty much where, and as, they like.Chinua Achebe, Home and ExileIf in There Was A Country "a Nigerian ruling class" only appears in the narratives and reflections of the author in the final fourth part of the book, this is only the most stunning aspect of the general intellectual and discursive architecture of the book. This "architecture", this "grammar" is none other than the fact that for nearly all other parts of the book with the exception of that concluding fourth part, all of Achebe's "explanations", all of his speculations in the book are relentlessly driven by ethnicity, and a very curious conception of ethnicity for that matter. Logically, inevitably, the corollary to this is that "explanations" and speculations based on class, and more specifically on intra-class and inter-class factors, are either completely ignored or even deliberately excluded. As I shall presently demonstrate, this is a remarkable departure from virtually all of Achebe's writings prior to this recently published book. For now, let me illustrate this startling matter of the complete subsumption of class into ethnicity in There Was A Country with two particularly telling examples out of innumerable other instances in the book.The first of our two selected examples pertains to nothing less than the January 15, 1966 coup itself, arguably the "opening shot" in the chain of events and crises that led to the Nigeria-Biafra war, the central subject of Achebe's book. It so happens that there is quite a significant body of both general and academic writings and discourses on this signal event. And indeed, Achebe's long citation of his sources in the bibliographic section of his book mentions many of these writings and discourses on the January 15, 1966 coup. It is therefore baffling that of the variety of "motives" or "interests" that have been ascribed to the coup plotters, the single one that Achebe addresses in his book is ethnicity, "tribe": Was it, or was it not, "an Igbo coup".There have been suggestions, there have been speculations that it was a "southern coup", this in light of the fact that most of the political and military leaders assassinated or inadvertently killed were, overwhelmingly, either northerners or southerners in alliance with northern leaders. More pertinent to the present discussion, there has also been an even more plausible speculation that class and ideological interests were significant in the motives of influential members of the coup plotters like Chukwuma Kaduna Nzeogwu and Wale Ademoyega. Of the two alliances of the ruling class parties of the First Republic, the Nigerian National Alliance (NNA) and the United Progressive Grand Alliance (UPGA), with the exception of Festus Okotie-Eboh, the Finance Minister, all those assassinated belonged to the NNA. S.L. Akintola, the Premier of the Western Region, was a diehard NNA chieftain; there is compelling evidence that this was why he was assassinated while Michael Okpara, the Premier of the Eastern Region, was spared because he was a major figure in the UPGA alliance. As a matter of fact, there is clear evidence that some of the coup plotters had the intension of making or "forcing" Chief Awolowo to assume the office of Prime Minister in the belief that the progressive northern allies of UPGA were far more regionally and nationally popular and credible than the southern and conservative allies of the NNA.Achebe's book pays not the slightest attention to these other probable factors in assessing the motives of the January 15 coup plotters. Was it, or was it not, "an Igbo coup"? That is all Achebe is interested in exploring - and disproving – in There Was A Country. Of the many threads that form the complex fabric of that fateful coup d'état, this single thread of ethnicity or "tribe" is all that Achebe strenuously tries to unravel in his book. This may be because by the time of the terrible pogroms of May 1966 against Igbos in the North, all other plausible motives for the coup had been almost completely erased by assertions, indeed pronouncements that the coup had incontrovertibly been an Igbo coup. But Achebe's book was written more than forty years after the event and it had the advantage of both historical hindsight and a vast body of accumulated research and discourses. For this reason, there is no other conclusion left for us other than a finding that Achebe almost certainly has a driving rationale for sticking exclusively to ethnicity or "tribalism" while simultaneously ignoring or excluding all other plausible, and in some cases factual, factors.At any rate, this is precisely what Achebe repeats in the second of our two examples. This pertains to the period of regional and nation-wide crises between 1964 to 1966 that preceded the January 15 coup and the Nigeria-Biafra war. Here, in Achebe's own words, is the particular case: "By the time the government of the Western region also published a white paper outlining the dominance of the ethnic Igbo in key government positions in the Nigerian Railway Corporation and the Nigerian Ports Authority, the situation for ethnic Igbos working in Western Nigeria in particular and all over Nigeria in general had become untenable" (p. 77). This is indeed a fact, but it is a partial fact, one aspect of a complex of facts and realities many of which Achebe chooses to ignore or obscure. It is useful to carefully state what these other facts and realities were.First, the government of the Western region that Achebe alludes to here was that of Chief S.L. Akintola and his party, the Nigerian National Democratic Party (NNDP). Arguably, these were the most perniciously right-wing government and party in southern Nigeria in the entirety of our post-independence political history. Achebe completely ignores this fact and fixes exclusively on this government's anti-Igbo programs and diatribes. Secondly, Akintola's government and party were not only virulently anti-Igbo, they were also scurrilously anti-welfarist and anti-socialist. A brilliant orator and a master of Yoruba rhetorical arts, Akintola tirelessly satirized a range of targets and issues of which Igbos were only one composite group. He was particularly fond of spewing out twisted, parodic visions of welfarism and socialism in which everything would be shared – wives, children, family heirlooms and personal belongings. There is not the slightest doubt in my mind that Achebe had to have been aware of these facts and realities; but he ignores them completely. Thirdly and lastly, Akintola and his party quite deliberately stoked the fires of intra-ethnic tensions and resentments within Yoruba sub-groups and they took this as far as founding a rival Pan-Yoruba organization to the Egbe Omo Oduduwa which they called "Egbe Omo Olofin". And for good measure, they tried, unsuccessfully, to instigate the late Duro Ladipo to write and produce a play to counter Hubert Ogunde's famous pro-Awolowo and pro-UPGA play, Yoruba Ronu.It must be emphasized that all these intra-class and intra-ethnic facts and realities were so well-known at the time that Achebe could not have been ignorant of them. We are left with no other conclusion than that Achebe simply had no place in his book for any factors, any realities beyond a pristine, autochthonous conception of ethnic identity and belonging in which no other aspects of social identification are allowed to "contaminate" the singularity of ethnicity . This, I suggest, is what we see in its quintessence in the argument expressed in the first of the two epigraphs to this essay to the effect that Nzeogwu being Igbo "in name only", the January 15 coup could not have been "an Igbo coup".In last week's beginning essay in this series, I made the assertion that Achebe is one of the greatest realist writers in world literature in the last century and half. I now wish to clarify the relevance of that assertion to the present discussion. One of the most compelling claims of realism is that it is the mode or genre in which the chain of representation in a work of literature or, more broadly, an intellectual treatise, comes closest to the chain of causality in nature, history or society. In a layman's formulation of this "big grammar", this means that above all other modes, forms and genres, it is in realism that what is presented in a work of art or a treatise is as close as you can possibly get to how things actually happened. Another way of putting this across is to suggest that typically and unavoidably, there being always and forever a big gap between how things actually happen and how they are (re)presented in writing, it is only the most gifted and talented realist writers that come close to bridging that gap.In all of Achebe's books on our pre-colonial and postcolonial experience, he had come closer than perhaps any other writer to this conception and practice of realism. More specifically, ethnicity, class and individuality had been superbly interwoven and productively explored in such titles as No Longer at Ease, A Man of the People, Anthills of the Savannah, The Trouble with Nigeria and Home and Exile. Thus, in my opinion, There Was A Country marks a radical rupture in Achebe's writings on our country, a rupture in which the realist rigour of his previous writings gives way to, or is considerably modified by a mystique, an apologia, an uncompromising defense of Igbo ethno-nationalism. I do not think that Achebe took this path in a fit of absent-mindedness; to the contrary, I think it is a decision, a choice he made in this new book quite deliberately and purposively. In next week's continuation of this series, I shall deal extensively even if only speculatively with this choice, with particular reference to what I personally regard as one of the most controversial aspects of There Was A Country, this being the link that Achebe makes in the book between what he deems the endemic ethnic scapegoating of Igbos in our country and the utter collapse of meritocracy in post-civil war Nigeria.Concluded.
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