Tuesday, April 30, 2013

USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: NigerianID | Re: [NIgerianWorldForum] RE: BAGA MASSACRE: CISLAC CONDEMNS MILITARY BRUTALITY ON INNOCENT CIVILIANS



SteveK:

There is nothing in my submission that could be reasonably
interpreted as an approval of extrajudicial execution as a mode
of justice.

I was one of those who protested the extrajudicil execution
of Yussuf by the Nigerian police.

The operations in Baga were aimed at flushing out Boko Haram
religious extremists.

I will not shed any tears if some or all of the Bokos end being killed
in gunfire with the police or the Nigerian armed forces.

My only regret would be about the collateral civilian casualties and destruction
of properties which the Nigerian armed forces should avoid as much as they
can reasonably do without further endangering their own lives.

War is not a joke! The Boko Haram is at war with the lawful authorities in Nigeria.
We can not send our soldiers and policemen into a battle with the Boko Haram
with one arm tied to their backs.

Our soldiers and police are expected to operate within certain rules and bounds--
as per the mission protocol. They are not allowed to kill innocent civilians or Boko Haram terrorists
who have clearly surrendered after dropping their guns and ammunitions and appearing
with both arms raised high above their heads. Any errant soldier or police who participates in extrajudiocial killings
should be courtmartialed.

But how many Bokos have you encountered that would obey the rules of law regarding surrender?

Boko Haram terrorists are suicidal maniacs whose only mission in engaging in their fruitless
wars is to die to they could each get to enjoy 72 virgins in heaven! They are no boy scouts.
No reasonably human being whould shed any tears for them.

Bye,

Ola


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That's what I thought. That NIDO thing again.
 
 
You guys amaze me. 
 
Both of you are staying put in your respective foreign stations because of the benefit of the Rule of Law and Due Process. But you don't care if this man that has been murdered is really guilty of anything or not.
 
Yet, you Olola, want homosexuals to be married without hinder because they have a right to. But this guy that is murderd without due process should because it makes you feel better that you are doing something against Boko Haram.
 
You are as logical and consistent as a square peg in a round hole!
 
due process of law
n. a fundamental principle of fairness in all legal matters, both civil and criminal, especially in the courts. All legal procedures set by statute and court practice, including notice of rights, must be followed for each individual so that no prejudicial or unequal treatment will result. While somewhat indefinite, the term can be gauged by its aim to safeguard both private and public rights against unfairness. The universal guarantee of due process is in the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which provides "No person shall…be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law," and is applied to all states by the 14th Amendment. From this basic principle flows many legal decisions determining both procedural and substantive rights
I hope your turn doesn't come one day as you visit Nigeria!
 
 
 
As Africans, we have to learn to think or perish.
 
Stevek
Washington, DC, USA
A society of supine lambs breeds erect wolves. - Stevek
A wise man proportions his beliefs to the evidence - David Hume

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JUI:

I share your sentiments and frustrations--some Nigerians can indeed be emotional wretches
as you referred to them.

When dog bites man no one complains but when man bites dog some start yelling massacre.
Are the lives of the Boko Haram terrorists worth more than those of their victims?
.

How many innocent police officers and soldiers have been killed by the Boko Haram terrorists
in the past few years--without all the hue and cry from the holier than thou crowd?
How many hundreds of civilians have lost their lives and limbs at the hands of the
Boko Haram terrorists

The Boko Haram terrorists are like a cancerous sore in the nation. Serious ailments
need serious solutions!

As long as the federal authorities are taking the necessary care to avoid collateral civilian casualties
the government forces should be using whatever arsenals they have in their possession to eradicate
these miscreants.

Capturing the terrorists alive so they could be tried remains an option only in situations where the
federal forces would not risk their lives to ensure their capture.

Why are some people crying on behalf of terrorists--when they would rather die so they
could get their 72 virgins in heaven?

Why are some Nigerians playing politics with this serious matter?
Bye,

Ola


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Nigerians are just emotional wretches, a confused bunch of people who like to eat their cake and still hold it in their hands! Let them go see how laws are enforced around the world and they will realized that the baby gloves with which the Govt and people are handling Boko Haram is mainly responsible for why the situation is till not under control.
A bunch of mindless, rag-tag religionists cannot hold a nation to ransom and render citizens' live in a standstill; NO WAY!!! Take care. JUI
 
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After the Boston marathon bombings. ,the huge city of Boston was locked down and law enforcement agencies NOT the army meticulously searched for and apprehended the suspect without massacaring Bostonians.
EUO
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Subject: [Naijaintellects] BAGA MASSACRE: CISLAC CONDEMNS MILITARY BRUTALITY ON INNOCENT CIVILIANS
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BAGA MASSACRE: CISLAC CONDEMNS MILITARY BRUTALITY ON INNOCENT CIVILIANS
Civil Society Legislative Advocacy Centre (CISLAC) is worried about the continued violent violation of human rights by the security agencies on innocent Nigerians. The failure of this government to sincerely handle the insecurity and protect Nigerians from violence orchestrated by merchants of violence through Bombings, Armed robbery, kidnapping, communal clashes, political violence, ethno-religious violence  and rape,  helps to escalate impunity in Nigeria. This is in spite of the huge resources allocated for security sector in Nigeria which runs into trillions of naira, but yet Nigerians face more security challenges.
 
The recent development of mass massacre in Baga Town of Borno State is very unfortunate and in particular the alleged blocking access of relief materials to the affected victims days after the mayhem is inhumane and amount to siege. Relief workers are yet to be allowed access to Baga town days after the start of the military operations that left at least 200 people dead and so many homes burnt down. The residents said troops fired indiscriminately and set fires at homes in an apparent retaliation over the death of an officer.
CISLAC is of the opinion that there should be a better mutual understanding of cultures and systems between humanitarian aid workers and troops, so as to develop mutual respect. To do this, it would be useful to put in place a programme of strategic and operational discussions at all levels. National Emergency Management Agency (NEMA) and Red Cross have raised alarm over its inability to administer humanitarian response to victims which is a total contradiction to the United Nation Protocol on options for responding to such crises. Even in war situations, relief materials are distributed to alleviate the sufferings of the people. It is considered very unprofessional not to accept the opportunity to play a more dynamic role on how to coordinate and respond to emergencies which was created by it (the Army) in the first place.
CISLAC considers this a coercive military intervention, even though a military component of some kind has become increasingly necessary in most crises situation; it must not eclipse and violate rights of civilians. Major humanitarian actors from both within and outside Borno, and its aim at facilitating inter-agency analysis and decision making in response to humanitarian emergencies should not be an issue for negotiation considering that access to food is part of civilian protection.
It must be understood that continuous refusal to provide access humanitarian officials to the victims would further create an outbreak of diseases, hunger and deaths of women and children. We consider this siege an impunity which is unacceptable and a contradiction to the rules of engagement in such situation. We condemn this and call for investigation into the Baga saga.
CISLAC calls on relevant authorities to refrain from the current faceoff in Baga, not as an argument about the 'right to intervene' but about the 'responsibility to protect' and put in place a proper coordination of Humanitarian Affairs in the community to safeguard the lives of people.
CISLAC calls on the authorities to investigate these Army and Police officers involved in this heinous act and ensure that they are not allowed participating in any peacekeeping operations forthwith. These sorts of violations are parts of the image challenges that the nation had suffered over the years from the international community when some Nigerian Army officers were sent for international peace mission.
CISLAC therefore calls on the National Assembly to investigate the trillions of Naira allocated to the executives in the name of security votes, from all indications, insecurity is proving to be a lucrative business which financial appropriation is unaccounted for. This menace has gone on too long and needs to seriously be challenged.
 
Signed by
Auwal Musa Rafsanjani
Executive Director
CISLAC
 
 
Civil Society Legislative Advocacy Centre (CISLAC) is a non-governmental, non-profit legislative advocacy, lobbying, information sharing and research organization. (CISLAC) works towards bridging the gap between the legislature and the electorate; by enhancing lobbying strategies; engagement of bills before their passage into law; manpower development for lawmakers, legislative aides, politicians and the civil society, as well as civic education on the tenets of democracy and Human Rights. 
CISLAC has UN ECOSOC consultative status
AUWAL IBRAHIM MUSA (RAFSANJANI)EXECUTIVE DIRECTORCivil Society Legislative Advocacy Centre (CISLAC)Address: No.7 Mahathma Gandhi Street, Off Shehu Shagari Way, By Bullet Garden, Area 11 Junction,Asokoro, Abuja - NigeriaWebsite: http://www.cislacnigeria.net/
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