USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: More on that Wole Soyinka interview...

Mazi,

That "I beg no vex" and "You know I like you." was a reference to
Toyin's earlier comments, it was not meant for you.

See what I wrote:
"I beg, no vex.
You know I like you."
----Toyin.

After that I wrote:
"Toyin,
We no dey fight, na talk we dey talk, I no vex.
Please do not allow the likeness to stop you from hitting at my posts
whenever the need arise".

It would be best, if we peruse and ponder before commenting.

CAO.



On May 22, 3:23 pm, Cornelius Hamelberg <corneliushamelb...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> *Chidi,
>
> Why I go vex now? And how could Brer Soyinka (or anyone else) have stopped
> Brer Achebe from expressing his views? By putting up a road sign saying** "
> **STOP ! <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVq6F2dMhXU>" ? By saying, "
> Please, I beg"? *
>
>  *Mr. Soyinka was expressing regret at some of the things that Mr. Achebe
> had said that's that's all. That's how I under stand what he said. Not that
> he was issuing the eleventh commandment ( God forbid) or the 614th Mitzvot<http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&gs_rn=14&gs_ri=psy-ab&cp=7&gs_id=7&xhr...>
> *
>
>  *As for me, I love everybody in the USA- Africa dialogue series, everybody
> without exception, including the CEOs who make a couple of million bucks a
> year and those ou I know outta here who own planes and shipping vessels,
> and bags of diamonds yet uncut...*
>
>  *By the way, you notice that I didn't say to Brer Ikhide " I beg, make yu
> no vex" ?*
>
>  *Not that I fear an attack from him or anyone else. I have my own
> unorthodox methods of self-defence, my own nuclear arsenal and some
> unexpected vulnerable points that can be attacked even if you are one of
> these<http://top10listz.blogspot.se/2012/08/top-10-most-intelligent-people-...>– and you care ( give a damn) - depending on the greatness of your ego and
> the signs of this would-be greatness heard shooting homilies about humility
> from the other side of the mouth and about the quantity of cum laude
> degrees and the languages mastered, from the other corner of the mouth...*
>
>  *Of course, humour can also be used as a weapon.*
>
>  *Sometimes a more extreme measure has to be taken to pre-empt one of his
> nuclear strikes which could cause the kind of silence that silences even
> the most loquacious of the anti-Obama Mwaliminuses and the best way of
> doing that with regard to e.g. Brer Ikhide is by wishing God's blessings on
> him in advance and wishing that the Almighty strengthens his pen and gives
> more grease to his elbows. No one is going to attack you after that...*
>
>  *These are sombre moments, thinking of Chinua Achebe.*
>
>  *Sin-cerely,*
>
>  *http://www.thelocal.se/blogs/corneliushamelberg/*<http://www.thelocal.se/blogs/corneliushamelberg/>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, 22 May 2013 12:22:27 UTC+2, Chidi Anthony Opara wrote:
>
> > "Re- "When for instance, a writer of WS's status said that there were
> > things
> > CA should not have written in his last book, it spoke volume of WS's
> > tolerance of other peoples views."
>
> > By the same token, your wanting to deny Mr. Soyinka's right to
> > criticize
> > Mr. Achebe, speaks volumes about your own intolerance of other
> > people's
> > rights".
> > -------Mazi Cornelius
>
> > Mazi,
> > I was not "wanting to deny Mr. Soyinka's right to criticize Mr.
> > Achebe", I was rather "wanting" to stop "Mr. Soyinka" from stopping
> > "Mr. Achebe" from expressing his views.
>
> > "I beg, no vex.
>
> > You know I like you."
> > ----Toyin.
>
> > Toyin,
> > We no dey fight, na talk we dey talk, I no vex.
>
> > Please do not allow the likeness to stop you from hitting at my posts
> > whenever the need arise.
>
> > CAO.
>
> > On 21 May, 16:51, Cornelius Hamelberg <corneliushamelb...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Chidi.
>
> > > Re- "When for instance, a writer of WS's status said that there were
> > things
> > > CA should not have written in his last book, it spoke volume of WS's
> > > tolerance of other peoples views."
>
> > > By the same token, your wanting to deny Mr. Soyinka's right to criticize
> > > Mr. Achebe, speaks volumes about your own intolerance of other people's
> > > rights.
>
> > > But Wole Soyinka was not forbidding Chinua Achebe the right to freedom
> > of
> > > expression. what he was saying there is that CA saying some kind of
> > things
> > > is ill-advised and not very helpful - we don't know exactly what he has
> > in
> > > mind, so please don't jump to any conclusions – he was not trying to
> > > silence the truth – anyone's truth. You know  - from your own admiration
> > > for Mr. Soyinka's Human Rights activism, that he is not the kind of man
> > who
> > > would want to deny freedom of speech as enshrined in *Article 19<
> >http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=article%2019&source=web&cd=1...>–
> > you also know how the brave man suffered on behalf of Biafra ...
> > > *
>
> > > On Tuesday, 21 May 2013 12:47:50 UTC+2, Chidi Anthony Opara wrote:
>
> > > > The earlier we forget about that interview, the better for everybody.
> > > > When for instance, a writer of WS's status said that there were things
> > > > CA should not have written in his last book, it spoke volume of WS's
> > > > tolerance of other peoples views. Problem was that the interviewers
> > > > refused to probe further to find out those things CA should not have
> > > > written and why he should not have written them. Anybody who could
> > > > read between the lines would know that, that interview was a veiled
> > > > put-down on CA and a veiled self glorification of WS's "literary
> > > > genius". It was also a subtle hatchet job for the Obafemi Awolowo
> > > > family, whose late patriarch's role during the Nigeria-Biafra civil
> > > > war CA criticized in the book in question and whose foundation
> > > > honoured WS recently.
>
> > > > CAO.
>
> > > > On 20 May, 22:42, Ikhide <xoki...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > Soyinka says calling Achebe father of African literature is "as
> > > > ridiculous as calling WS [Wole Soyinka] father of contemporary African
> > > > drama!" Well, Soyinka is great at drama, a near-genius even, but no
> > one I
> > > > know has ever called him the father of contemporary African drama. It
> > is
> > > > fair to conjecture that his retort, cute as it seems, is self-serving
> > and
> > > > meant to remind us that he is at par with Achebe. You do not reject
> > that
> > > > which is not offered you. Indeed, In terms of drama as a pioneer, he
> > would
> > > > be in great competition with greats like Herbert Ogunde and the
> > playwrights
> > > > of South Africa who danced and fought their way to freedom. I wish
> > people
> > > > would read a bit of history; for example, go read the South African
> > play,
> > > > Sizwe Banzi Is Dead by Athol Fugard and learn about John Kani, and
> > Winston
> > > > Ntshona.
>
> > > > > So, on the eve of Achebe's funeral, what is the problem Soyinka is
> > > > trying to solve? It bears repeating; It was the Nobel Laureate Nadine
> > > > Gordimer that bestowed the title on Achebe, not a reprobate not an
> > > > ignoramus. Achebe, a humble man, waved it aside. I honestly had
> > forgotten
> > > > about the title until Soyinka resurrected it. It is a (mostly) free
> > world,
> > > > why would Soyinka be declaring an intellectual fatwa on the heads of
> > those
> > > > of who regard Achebe as their alpha and omega? Who cares? If he is so
> > bent
> > > > on protecting the sanctity of African literature, where was his and
> > your
> > > > outrage when a few weeks ago, Pius Adesanmi, Nduka Otiono and Harry
> > Garuba
> > > > tried to canonize el-Rufai's pretend book, The Accidental Public
> > Servant
> > > > (TAPS) into "contemporary African literature" at Carleton University
> > in
> > > > Canada?
>
> > > > > Read more of my response to Tolu Ogunlesi's Facebook response to my
> > > > response to Professor Wole Soyinka's interview:
>
> >https://www.facebook.com/#!/ikhide/posts/10151949735289616?comment_id...
>
> > > > > - Ikhide
>
> > > > > Stalk my blog athttp://www.xokigbo.com/
> > > > > Follow me on Twitter: @ikhide
> > > > > Join me on Facebook:www.facebook.com/ikhide

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