I didn't mean any harm, was jes quoting di man him-self about organ-sing anti-apartheid activities:
A little clarification
on the funny side:
the Cornelius of someone else's imagination
I didn't mean any harm was jes' quoting di man him-self about organ-ising anti-apartheid activities:
"As president of the International Students Association, Institutionsradet, at Stockholms Universitet in Sweden from 1982 to 1983, I organized many anti-apartheid activities at the university and the city of Stockholm, and worked with like-minded organizations around the country." (Abdul Bangura )
I obviously missed these summer talks or they didn't take place and I wasn't there, just as Woody Allen said
Let di matter close & lay to rest with this
"OMG Riddim Mix"
On Thursday, 30 May 2013 12:19:42 UTC+2, Cornelius Hamelberg wrote:
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the boss ain't here
They say that vanity got the best of him
But he sure left here in style" (Dylan singing about Jesus)
Sheikh Abdul,
If only you knew who you were talking to. But you don't.
You're as predictable as punch. I knew that you would rise to the ocassion. So this is the sort of matter - this little piece of nothing is what you think is important and deserves a horn-blowing response ?
Just imagine, if you were president of the United States of America ! You wouldn't have the time to be posting all kinds of nonsense about yourself. But you're not and you will never be like Brother Obama no matter how much you fast, so please get over it. In my view you're not even half the man he is – and you can take that to the bank. When Brother Obama speaks, the world listens – and hears BBC, CNN, FOX NEWS, Radio Moscow, China, India and Japan.
As they say "Necessity is the mother of invention!"
I finally smoked you out did I? Easy, wasn't it? Like Aesop's "The Fox and the Crow"- appeal to a certain sensitive part of the ego and you have him singing like a bird (like Tunde Nightingale) or like "the most educated president of the United States of Africa". Equate him with ordinary Tom, Dick and Harry ? Of course he was there. I know that. Great achievement. You've told me/ us about it a thousand times before – all you had to be or do was to be there - and as you are aware, in that class of foreigners, you were not the only person from Sierra Leone in that your diploma class out of which you for some time alleged you obtained a Masters about which you argued and explained so laboriously on Leonenet and despite which it eventually , mysteriously reverted to being a graduate diploma at least on the web CV. WHO do you think gives a rat's tail?
Sense of humour taking my-self too seriously? Little Me on a board of directors? Am I fishing for a job in Sweden? Well, I live here, not in Djurgården or Nockeby and when I recommend someone, that someone is recommended. If I say a bad word. That's it.
Very important: Gunnar and Alva Myrdal and their son too, Jan Myrdal . a very interesting person
I meant that it's not every tom, dick and harry that's invited to tea at Buckingham Palace or to
the Nobel Banquet , although I can imagine Sheikh Abduallah in a smoking or better still my kind of Agbada, when he is finally awarded (not self-awarded) a prize – not the Nobel – for self-publication and hopefully at that time you yourself won't be a member of the award committee that awards you the prize.
You "do not get (my) postings" I understand. You are not paid to read any of the nonsense that I write as I'm not one of your under-graduate students in need of your corrections. "Someone" forwarded this one to you and wanted your take. Great take. I hope that the same one does not forward this to you.
I usually read all the postings on the net, didn't miss your advert announcing vol.1 of your 77th buk, but mostly dismiss your pathological stream of news cuttings about Brother Obama in what gives you greatest pleasure not pain – the thought that Brother Obama is in "hot waters" - and now your glee about the possibility of him being dis-possessed/ divested of the Nobel Peace Prize. About all that hullabaloo - the bribe money and some of the immoral sentiments behind it I'll just repeat what the president of the United States has said about Iran: That if diplomacy fails, the military option is still on the table – Nobel Peace Peace Prize or No No-bel Peace Prize. So you shouldn't think that the president is cowed or that the president's hands are tied behind his back by any Nobel Prize. You could declare a day of fasting if you want and if that day coincides with Yom Kippur I hope that I'll be fasting too.
About you being in Oslo and about the schoolgirls choir also being there, you have narrated all this before, including the trip - I guess your first trip to Moscow only thing is you now give us additional information that it was a free lunch "with all expenses paid by the Swedish government." Yes, the Swedish Government and some of its many organisations are very generous indeed with the taxpayers money – school trips to Kenya, Australia, China, Brazil China, Japan , Swaziland, India, you'd be surprised out of the third world skin. It's the same wonderful Swedish generosity that you would like to see Wonderful Sweden extend by coming to the financial rescue of Winnie Mandela who is reported to be in dire straits – as if the good, proud people of South Africa /South AfriKa can't do it, and have to ask a pittance from your Oyibo idols. Can't you do it?
Here's a good take : Winnie Mandela by my friends Johnny Mbizo Dyani & Co. Soon after I met him, Johnny gave me the name Themba Feza – after his dearly departed trumpet player Mongezi Feza.
Themba ( hope) Feza ( to complete) - hope to complete the fight against Apartheid. I was a frequent visitor to Johnny and Puck Tann his Swedish journalist lady friend who had been working in Mozambique.... The album cover is by Harvey Cropper.
Sure there's the definitive role that Sweden played in the anti-Apartheid Struggle
We are sometimes on different wavelengths about such matters. The anti-Apartheid activities are well known by those who know such things and sometimes I'm a little irritated (just a little) by what appears to be the trivialisation of the extraordinary role that Nigeria also played in the fight against Apartheid at many levels, financial, equipment etc. over the counter, under the counter – from before and after the time that Patrick Wilmot wrote that article which I read in the Nigerian Guardian, causing him to have to go underground – precisely when Felix Houphouet Boigny was advocating " dialogue with South Africa.
Half of the story will never be told.
I was in Nigeria on the day when you and your classmates were in Oslo. I was only "on leave"in Sweden during the first two months of 1983 – returned to Nigeria - directly to Umuahia for a week as a guest of some of the Ojukwu family and then back to my duties in Melford Okilo's Rivers State. 1983 was a very eventful year in Nigeria – on the last day of that year my man Muhammadu Buhari and Brother Tunde Idiagbon took over and restored some law and order.
I washed my hands and said my prayers first thing this morning. It's now 21.15, I've missed BBC HARDtalk, haven't even had breakfast yet, so I'll be signing off , pronto (dictatorship of the stomach) ...
But one last little thing: You know what ( you = whoever is reading this), if you hadn't done so by 1982, may I warmly recommend that you do so now quite another flavour : read Gabriel García Márquez 's One Hundred Years of Solitude for some of the reasons that the the H-arrow of God says Literature does for you...
Be cool...
Sin-cerely,
http://www.thelocal.se/blogs/
corneliushamelberg/
On Thursday, 30 May 2013 01:09:22 UTC+2, Abdul Bangura wrote:Karmoh Hamelberg, I do not get your postings. Someone forwarded this one to me and wanted my take. So here goes:(a) The anti-apartheid movement in Sweden dates back to many decades before I even set foot on that beautiful land. So, it would be foolhardy for anyone to credit me with organizing it. Nonetheless, as President of Iradet, I did organize and participate in anti-apartheid and other activities in Sweden and even traveled to Norway, where one of my best friends from childhood lived, and Denmark, where my younger brother lived, to participate in similar and other activities, including the Kobenhavn Trinidadian-style Carnival.(b) Fortunately, through the good offices of our director, Dr. Thomas Lunden, who still lives in Solna, we did receive invitations to attend either the Nobel Prize for Literature that was being given Gabriel Garcia Marquez in Stockholm or the Nobel Peace Prize that was being given jointly to Dr. Alva Myrdal, wife of Dr. Gunnar Myrdal, and Alfonso Garcia Robles in Oslo. Indeed, since we were social science students, most of us opted for the Oslo trip. We had read many of the works by the Myrdals and we were their big fans. And, yes, we had a good time on the direct ferry ride, too.(c) Oh, by the way, Dr. Lunden also got us a study tour to Leningrad and Moscow, with all expenses paid by the Swedish government.
Osagyefo Bangura,
We know that you did many great things in Sweden,organising the anti-apartheid movement etc. during the short while you were here.
I understand, that if you had had your own way the Nobel Prize for Peace should have been awarded to Osagyefo Mwalimu Muammar al-Gaddafi ?
I should just like to politely remind you that The Nobel Prize for Peace ceremonies take place in Oslo and not in Stockholm â€" and needless to say, not every Tom, Dick and Barry is invited...
“Per Alfred Nobel's will, the recipient is selected by the Norwegian Nobel Committee, a 5-member committee appointed by the Parliament of Norway. Since 1990, the prize is awarded on December 10 in Oslo City Hall each year. “
I was in London during the Nobel ceremonies in 1986, when Wole Soyinka bagged the Nobel Prize for Literature. People like V.S. Naipaul's and Derek Walcott's literary agent was at the party when those guys bagged the Literature prize. Quite a spectacle to see them waltzing around and foxtrotting on the dance floor , cheek to cheek with some of the ultra-academics and some royalty...
On Wednesday, 29 May 2013 14:57:54 UTC+2, Abdul Bangura wrote:Hmmmmm....so the word "peace" in the Nobel Peace Prize is a misnomer? Back to the drawing board, Osagyefo Ed Mensah. I lived and studied in Sweden, I wrote a paper on the competing sentiments over the award at Stockholms Universitet, I attended the ceremonies in 1982, so let's just say that the committee members who prematurely gave BOZO Obama the prize in the hope that he would translate his campaign rhetoric into reality are also BOZOS. They should recall the award.----- Original Message -----From: Edward MensahTo: usaafric...@googlegroups.comSent: 5/29/2013 3:57:06 AMSubject: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Now We Know Why BOZO Obama IsGoingToSA, And Not Nigeria--No, no, no, Bangura you got it all wrong. The Nobel Peace Prize was not given for peace because he had no experience in keeping the peace; not when his entire political experience was representing a portion of the South Side of Chicago in the Illinois Senate in Springfield. Obama, in the minds of many, was given the peace prize for keeping John McCain�s hands off the nuclear weapons. Remember the joke Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran?
Kwaku Mensah
Chicago
From: usaafric...@googlegroups.com [mailto:usaafric...@
googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Abdul Bangura
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 10:53 PM
To: usaafric...@googlegroups.com; usaafric...@googlegroups.com
Cc: Kwabena Akurang-Parry; basil ugochukwu
Subject: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Now We Know Why BOZO Obama IsGoingTo SA, And Not Nigeria
No, No, No, Mama Mzuri Gloria Emeagwali, we Genu-wine Bonafide Americans invented BOZO and it has nothing to do with your Spanish rendition. The word for slave in Spanish is esclavo.
The following snippet from Wikipedia will help:
"Bozo is a clown character very popular in the United States, peaking in the 1960s as a result of widespread franchising in early television. Originally created by Alan W. Livingston for a children's storytelling record-album and illustrative read-along book set and portrayed by Pinto Colvig...."
Meet the original BOZO and BOZO Obama whose warmongering has made a mockery of the Nobel Peace Prize:
![Bozo the clown - a very suspicious character]()
----- Original Message -----
To: usaafric...@googlegroups.com
Sent: 5/28/2013 5:18:03 PM
Subject: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Now We Know Why BOZO Obama IsGoingTo SA, And Not Nigeria
I am actually tired of this word �Bozo� for anyone. I believe it means �slave� in Spanish.
I could be wrong, though.
Bangura what does it mean to you?
GE
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com ] On Behalf Of Abdul Bangura
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 2:03 PM
To: usaafric...@googlegroups.com; usaafric...@googlegroups.com
Cc: Kwabena Akurang-Parry; basil ugochukwu
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Now We Know Why BOZO Obama Is GoingTo SA, And Not Nigeria
Oga Ugochukwu, my best friend Osagyefo Kwabena Akurang-Parry who I love like my blood brother knows that I will not call him a BOZO because he is doing his best for our people and he does not work for me. But I have the right to call Obama a BOZO because he is my public servant, I pay his salary, I pay for the Air Force One he enjoys, I pay for his medical visits to Bethesda and before that close to my house at Walter Reed, I even pay for his hair cut, etc. So as long as Obama continues to butcher, insult and marginalize our Afrikan people, I will call him a BOZO.
----- Original Message -----
From: basil ugochukwu
Sent: 5/28/2013 1:23:40 PM
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Now We Know Why BOZO Obama Is GoingTo SA, And Not Nigeria
Oga Kwabena,
Please lay off BOZO, BOZO, BOZO Bangura!
From: "Akurang-Parry, Kwabena" <KAP...@ship.edu>
To: "usaafric...@googlegroups.com" <usaafric...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 12:54:05 PM
Subject: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Now We Know Why BOZO Obama Is Going To SA, And Not Nigeria
Malam Bangura:
Couldn't you be critical of President Obama without the name-calling, such as "Bozo"? It does not speak well of you as a teacher, scholar, author, and mentor. Your obsession with anti-Obamaism has become a debilitating disease of the mind.
Kwabena
From: usaafric...@googlegroups.com [usaafric...@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Abdul Bangura [th...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 10:00 AM
To: USAAfric...@googlegroups.com
Cc: leonenet
Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Now We Know Why BOZO Obama Is Going To SA, And Not NigeriaBravo, South Afrika!
Now we know why BOZO Obama is going to South Afrika, and not Nigeria. As I have been making the clarion call for a long now and I will do so again soon, Nigeria, Take Your Leadership! Many of the internal problems will disappear as the people become united in the common cause of leading Afrika.
The race is on: Manufacturer sets sights on market for armed drones
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Staff Sgt. Brian Ferguson/U.S. Air Force
The military use of armed drones in the Middle East and Afghanistan has brought more countries and companies into the market for such weapons. Here are some of the un-crewed aerial vehicles that are known to carry weapons or that might be adapted to carry them.
By Keir Simmons and Gil Aegerter, NBC News
On a sprawling complex just outside Pretoria, South Africa, a government-owned arms manufacturer is preparing to test an armed drone that it hopes to begin selling soon to governments around the world.
The company, Denel Dynamics, says the armed version of the Seeker 400, which will carry two laser-guided missiles, will enable so-called opportunistic targeting at a range of up to about 155 miles.
�These are not combat systems, they are foremost reconnaissance systems,� Sello Ntsihlele, executive manager of UAV systems for Denel, told NBC News. He added: "(But if) you speak to any general, show him the capability, he will tell you, �I want to have munitions.�"
The company�s move is but one signal that the era when only a small club of countries possessed weaponized drones is drawing to a close.
Critics say the coming proliferation of the lethal remote-controlled flying machines will forever change the face of counterterrorism operations and, eventually, warfare itself � and not for the better.
�The U.S. has set a moral precedent,� said Jenifer Gibson of the human rights group Reprieve. "A state can declare someone a terrorist and just go out and kill them."
Reprieve campaigns against what it calls illegal drone strikes.
Supporters of military drones argue that they are an essential tool against terrorists hiding in remote areas and that their ability to strike with precision minimizes civilian casualties. Reprieve rejects the notion that drones are precision weapons and claims many civilians have been killed.
Who has drones � and who wants them
Only three countries are known to currently operate armed unmanned aerial vehicles, or UAVs, as drones are technically known -- the U.S., the U.K. and Israel -- according to a recent report by the think tank RUSI. The report suggested there are only currently around 1,000 armed drones worldwide.But China also is believed to have developed weaponized drones; the U.S. has said it would arm drones operated by Italy; and France and Germany also have decided to acquire them, according to arms trade experts and published reports.
And according to Peter Singer, director of the Center for 21st Century Security and Intelligence at the Brookings Institute, at least 26 countries have surveillance drones of a size or type that have been or could be armed, and roughly 20 countries are trying to either develop or acquire weaponized drones.
So far, the United States is the only country known to have transferred armed drone technology -- and solely to Britain, which flies U.S.-built Predators in Afghanistan.
U.S. sales of drones, armed and unarmed, "are considered on a case-by-case basis, consistent with U.S. law, regulation and policy, as well as our international commitments, including under the multilateral nonproliferation regimes," a Pentagon spokesman said in an email to NBC News. A State Department spokesman declined to comment on the record.
U.S. reluctance to share its cutting-edge military drone technology outside a few trusted NATO partners like Britain and Italy is viewed as an opportunity by arms manufacturers like Denel Dynamics.
The company aims to be among the first suppliers of armed drones to market, if tests of the armed versions of the Seeker 400 -- expected to begin in �a month or two� and last up to six months, according to Ntsihlele -- are successful. South Africa would have to purchase the armed drones first before the company would begin marketing them elsewhere, but if that happens Denel sees opportunities for growth elsewhere, particularly in "Africa and the Middle East," he said.
Ntsihlele declined to say how much the armed Seeker 400 will cost, but said it will be far cheaper than the Predator and Reaper, the armed drones used for anti-terrorism operations by the U.S. military in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen, which cost approximately $20 million and $56.5 million apiece, respectively. And unlike those UAVs, it would not require satellite technology, being controlled instead through �line of sight� communications. That limits its range but makes it potentially available to nations without sophisticated space-based guidance systems.
The drone market
President Barack Obama, in a speech last Thursday, said he would impose new limits on drone strikes against foreign terrorists in an attempt to reduce civilian casualties to near zero and ensure that only enemies who pose a �continuing, imminent threat� to the United States are targeted."What we are trying to do with our (anti-terror) strategy is turn it back over to the host country and local forces," the New York Times quoted the Pentagon's top counterterrorism official Michael Sheehan as saying. "That is the future."
The sale of armed drones to other governments raises similarly thorny issues though.
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Khaled Abdullah / Reuters file
Yemeni tribesmen stand on the rubble of a building in the village of Azan that was destroyed by a U.S. drone air strike on Oct. 14, 2011. Tribal elders say that suspected al Qaeda militants Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, the son of slain U.S.-born cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, and six others were killed in the attack.
There are no international restrictions on sales of armed drones. Beyond sanctions and embargoes governed by the Security Council, the United Nations does not regulate arms and arms-technology sales, although the Arms Trade Treaty approved in April by the General Assembly may change that if it is eventually ratified by enough nations.
In Denel�s case, Ntsihlele indicated that the South African government would limit sales only to governments that would be �accountable and responsible� and agree to �opportunistic� use of the weapons on justified targets. �That target could be a pirate, or could be a terrorist,� he said.
The company also provided this statement to NBC News: �All of our activities ... take place within the framework of decisions taken by international organs such as the United Nations, the policies of the South African government and the regulatory prescripts imposed by the National Conventional Arms Control Committee and the Directorate Conventional Arms Control,� referring to two South African government organizations.
Assuming it gets its product to market, Denel is expected to quickly encounter plenty of competition.
�To the extent that the U.S. backs off the armed drone business, it allows countries like China, in particular, to say they�ll fill the marketplace,� said Dennis Gormley, who teaches intelligence and military issues at the University of Pittsburgh�s Graduate School of Public and International Affairs.
China already has shown an armed drone resembling a smaller Reaper at an air show last fall, and photos surfaced on Chinese websites earlier this month showing what appeared to be an unmanned combat aerial vehicle known as the Lijan, or �Sharp Sword.� The Lijan closely resembles the U.S. Navy�s remote-controlled X-47B drone, which recently launched from an aircraft carrier for the first time.
Israel will also be a marketplace competitor. It is a leader in armed drones and is already considered the biggest exporter of unarmed drone technology.
Turkey also has developed a reconnaissance drone, the Anka, for spying on Kurdish insurgents. Last summer, the Turkish Defense Industry Executive Committee said that TAI, the company that builds the Anka, was starting research and development on an armed variant, the Anka +A.
Turkey had been intensely interested in buying armed drones from the U.S., said William Hartung, director of the arms and security project at the Center for International Policy. So far, the U.S. has resisted selling it such technology, despite its NATO membership, he said.
Iran also has made unsubstantiated claims to have armed drones.
Terrorism concerns
The spread of armed drone technology to volatile regions like the Middle East inevitably stirs concern that terrorists could obtain the airborne weapons. So far, the Lebanese militia group Hezbollah, considered a terrorist organization by the U.S., is the only group believed to possess the UAVS. It has flown several unarmed drones containing explosives over Israel and, in one case, apparently used an armed drone to attack an Israeli ship, according to published reports.The possibility of using small drones as attack platforms was driven home by a video posted on YouTube in December by an anonymous group called Dangerous Information. It showed a small electric-powered drone equipped with a GoPro video camera and paintball gun, first flying through a neighborhood, then attacking human-figure targets in a field.
The development of smaller drones has been accompanied by new smaller munitions that don�t require the Predator�s 450-pound payload capacity. Denel�s Seeker 400, for example, will have a payload half that, according to a company brochure, but still be capable of carrying two laser-guided missiles.
�There is the development of smaller and smaller weapons, some of them specifically for UAVs," said Philip Finnegan, director of corporate analysis for the Teal Group, which conducts market analysis in the aerospace and defense industry. "So they�ll be able to use smaller platforms."
While armed drones appear certain to be added to more countries� arsenals in the near future, analysts say they expect the military sector will remain a relatively small piece of the overall drone market for some time to come. A big reason for that is the restrained growth in defense budgets worldwide and cuts by the U.S. military in spending on drones, which also affect research and development.
�There is short-term pressure on the industry. " It�s a combination of budgetary pressure and the withdrawals from Iraq and Afghanistan," Finnegan said. "Longer term, the U.S. remains heavily committed to advanced UAV technology."
And sales to smaller nations are likely to be slow due to the fact that even with prices falling, armed drones remain prohibitively expensive, Denel�s Ntsihele said, recounting conversations with prospective buyers.
"When they get to know the product, they get shocked," he said.
Keir Simmons is a correspondent in NBC News' London bureau; Gil Aegerter is an NBC News staff writer in Redmond, Wash.; NBC News' Marc Smith and Robert Windrem also contributed reporting to this article.
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