Sunday, April 20, 2014

Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Abridged summary of usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com - 28 updates in 16 topics

Dear Tt,

Much as i appreciate the point you made in your comment, i however think that your mathematics is wrong and far from objective reality. In the first instance, I have boarded buses at Yanyan, which is not different from boarding busses in Lagos. From experience, I know that when a bus is loaded with passenger, it travels without any further delay. As all Nigerians on this e-group would also confirm, many Nigerian commuters are not blessed with patience. I am also not. No passenger bus dares to wait a minute longer after it is loaded, most especially during work-hour. Given this, it is just impossible for the 14 buses to have 50X40 passengers at the time of the incident. It is impossible for 14 loaded passenger buses to just sit down there. What are they waiting for?

While not speaking for and on behalf of either the government or the media, I do not think it is responsible for government or journalists to release total or absolute figures on casualty to the public, as this will certainly heat-up the polity. This however is not a license to hide or obscure the facts. I am of the opinion that all logical steps, including deliberately placing emphases on other issues rather than the absolute numbers, must be taken to ensure that Nigeria does not implode.

Notwithstanding the fact that many are now profiting from Boko Haram, everybody, including government, condemns Boko Haram and its activities. The incident at Yanyan and the attendant losses (in lives and property) are as bad as those that occur daily on our roads, in our glorified clinics called hospitals, etc. There is no doubt that government in Nigeria has lost the fight against Boko Haram. I am not discounting the need for data, I however believe that the time now calls for finding ways to address the menace posed by the group, as against basking in unprofitable argument over the number of the dead, the wounded, and related stuffs. 

For instance, I consider the words coming out from troops in Boko Haram-infested states that members of the military have turned Boko Haram into a business, as worrying. Equal in order to this is a situation whereby a top-brass military officer in-charge of the security situation in these  Boko Haram-infested states just recounted his earlier claim that all abducted pupils have been released. Where did he get the earlier 'fact'? Is the matter been investigated? Who is paying for this act of irresponsibility? I see these and many more important and beneficial than heating up the polity.

Oyeniyi.


On Apr 20, 2014 11:58 AM, <ttogiri@gmail.com> wrote:
Loosing and winning as an issue here can only be a political stand. Do the math, 17 buses and 24 other vehicles were burnt in Nyanya,, each bus has a carrying capacity of about 50. Nigeria believes that if we do not tell the truth we (the govt) will not look bad. We have arch-tribalist here who want to talk about United State of Africa, is that because it rhymes with USA? They also think "rotational presidency" is "democracy". People let's sound half way logical. Tt
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Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 22:48:37 +0000
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Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Abridged summary of usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com - 28 updates in 16 topics

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    dbadejo2002@yahoo.com Apr 18 11:59PM  

    Dear IBK
    I enjoyed your summation of the challenges and set backs for a United States of Africa and I am in tandem with your position that it cannot work even at least for now.
    There is another ...more

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    Ibukunolu A Babajide <ibk2005@gmail.com> Apr 19 01:33PM +0300  

    Dear Bamidele Badejo,
     
    Thank you. I agree with you and add China and India in the mix. India has
    since the 1800s been brought by the British to East (to build the bridge to
    nowhere before the ...more

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    "Emeagwali, Gloria (History)" <emeagwali@mail.ccsu.edu> Apr 19 12:30PM -0400  

    Diagnosis of a problem is a healthy exercise. It identifies areas of weakness and may
    facilitate new guidelines for problem solving. So I do appreciate the seven points raised by IBK.
    Thank you. ...more

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    Segun Ogungbemi <seguno2013@gmail.com> Apr 18 11:34PM -0500  

    It is not enough to catalogue the failure of Jonathan administration without good suggestions to help the country get out of the wood.
    The Military mostly from the north were worse than this ...more

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    Oluwatoyin Adepoju <toyinifadante@gmail.com> Apr 19 04:09PM +0100  

    I am not able to see how the govt has failed in relation to the Boko Haram
    crisis.
     
    I see the govt as winning.
     
    The govt is winning the propaganda war as well as the on the combat front.
    ...more

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    Ayo Obe <ayo.m.o.obe@gmail.com> Apr 19 05:53PM +0100  

    Is it relevant to talk about winning in the face of the Nyanya atrocity and abduction and murder of hundreds of schoolchildren in the North East? I doubt if any of those affected or their families ...more

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    segun ogungbemi <seguno2013@gmail.com> Apr 19 10:37AM -0500  

    Congratulations to our friends, the Intellectual Majesty of African
    History, Prof. Toyin Falola and his wife, Chief, Dr. Bisi Falola who have
    been honored with traditional Chieftaincy titles in ...more

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    okpehookpeh <okpehookpeh@gmail.com> Apr 19 05:16PM +0100  

    This is a very big one! Congrats Chief Professor and Chief Dr. Mrs. Falola. We wish you both the very best. Like we say in Naija, no be small thing....
    Okpeh.
    ...more

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    Ekhator Godfrey <godgate4luv@gmail.com> Apr 18 02:20PM -0700  

    When will posterity judge our Nigerian politicians? They are so forgetful
    and very confused. Can someone show Rtd Gen. Buhari the following links: ...more

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    Cornelius Hamelberg <corneliushamelberg@gmail.com> Apr 19 08:02AM -0700  

    Sir,
     
    Accusing my man Muhammadu Buhari of being a major supporter of Boko Haram
    is patently absurd, even as a political ploy by which one would- be-
    president or even a supporter of an incumbent ...more

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    Segun Ogungbemi <seguno2013@gmail.com> Apr 18 08:23PM -0500  

    Dear All,
    You need to bear in mind the intention of the author. Why does he think the north is now at the receiving end? When the defunct Western Region was on fire, what did Tafawa Balewa government ...more

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    Ibukunolu A Babajide <ibk2005@gmail.com> Apr 19 01:39PM +0300  

    Dear Segun Ogungbemi,
     
    The insurgents were the same who were brought to Lagos in 1964 to 1970 to
    destabilise the western region under the pretext that Kaferi are trying to
    over-run the faithful ...more

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    Oluwatoyin Adepoju <toyinifadante@gmail.com> Apr 19 04:35PM +0100  

    IBK,
     
    Do you have any idea how I could learn more about this perspective your
    present, possibly something I could read?
     
    thanks
     
    toyin
     
     
    ...more

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    Kola Fabiyi <kfabzz@gmail.com> Apr 19 03:54PM +0100  

    Abubakar Shekau Claims In New Video: "We Are In Your City, We Carried
    Out The Attack In Abuja"
    ...more

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    "Emeagwali, Gloria (History)" <emeagwali@mail.ccsu.edu> Apr 19 10:09AM -0400  

    May the souls of Abasiattai, Amadi, Lawal, Lasisi, Adeleye and now Ukon Uya, fellow
     
    historians and members of the Historical Society of Nigeria, rest in peace, as they join the ancestors.
    ...more

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    chidi opara reports <chidioparareports@rocketmail.com> Apr 19 03:09AM -0700  

    The part one and two of this
    international public statement presented graphic details of what happened
    during the Rwandan Genocide of 1994. The genocide led to the death of between ...more

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    Yona Maro <oldmoshi@gmail.com> Apr 19 10:46AM +0300  

    Tanzania helped foil terrorists attacks intended to disrupt last year’s
    General Election in Kenya and President Uhuru Kenyatta’s swearing-in
    ceremony.
     
    In an exclusive interview with Saturday ...more

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    Oluwatoyin Adepoju <toyinifadante@gmail.com> Apr 19 03:33AM +0100  

    Insightful, though the description of the "oil rich South as opposed to the
    impoverished North" is most inadequate.
     
    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: EDWIN OZUMBA ...more

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    Oluwatoyin Adepoju <toyinifadante@gmail.com> Apr 19 03:57AM +0100  

    Fine piece only it did not add the same Buhari has described the govt as
    the creator of Boko Haram and he is one of the more prominent violence
    inciters from the North with his incendiary speeches ...more

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    Pablo <pidahosa@yorku.ca> Apr 18 05:09PM -0400  

    I'm currently wading through Piketty's book, but here's a review that
    does some valuable assessments of his notion of capital and his parsing
    of historical and contemporary inequality, amongst ...more

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