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From: hamza baba <hamzababa2006@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:32 AM
Subject: [Yan Arewa] BOKO IS HARAM IN DAWAKINTOFA LGA OF KANO STATE
From: hamza baba <hamzababa2006@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:32 AM
Subject: [Yan Arewa] BOKO IS HARAM IN DAWAKINTOFA LGA OF KANO STATE
SO BOKO IS HARAM AFTER ALL?
The choice of the title name above may come as a surprise to some. Yes Boko is actually haram to many communities in northern Nigeria. While the much dreaded Jamaatu ahlussunna wal daawat a.k.a boko haram is killing our children, destroying our places of worship and decimating our sources of livelihood, another boko haram living in our midst - a very selfish, greedy elites who shows disdain to western education as a way of subjugating the masses to perpetuate the status quo reigns with impunity. This is another type of boko haram receiving so little coverage but wrecking so much havoc.
Boko is haram in my local government Dawakintofa in Kano state. Yes western education has become a sin for anybody dreaming to make him/her available for any elective position. Dawakintofa local government is one of the oldest local governments in Kano state with a rich history, culture and entrepreneurship. The local government is blessed with vast natural and human resources. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawakin_Tofa
Bordered by two major dams of Thomas to the east and Bagwai to the west, it has vast agricultural lands for irrigational farming and high quality clay for ceramic and domestic use. Dawanau market -the largest food market in West Africa and the biggest mechanic village in northern Nigeria (kwakwaci mechanic village) are located in Dawakin tofa local government area. The local government stands tall in human resources. A former acting governor (Late Alhaji Abdu Dawakintofa), a former deputy governor (Engr. magaji Abdullahi) and the current incumbent deputy governor (Dr. Abdullahi Umar Ganduje), a former surveyor general of the federation (Surveyor Muhammad Nadu Yahaya), a former elected senator of the federal republic ( Dr. Maikano Rabiu) all came from Dawakin tofa local government. This in addition to several former/current state and federal commissioners, federal and state civil servants and businessmen. Despite been endowed with all these resources, the local government is left behind in terms of physical, social and other infrastructural development compared to its contemporaries like Bichi, Gwarzo and Dambatta local government areas.
From my submission above, it is doubtless that Dawakin tofa is rivalled by a few local governments in northern Nigeria in terms of human and natural resources, henceforth you will agree with me, this community deserve the best in terms of quality leadership and representation at the local and federal levels. The community needs some body with vast experience and capacity in management and administration. Somebody who can effectively utilize human and capital resources to move the local government forward to achieve greatness in the field of education, healthcare, youth and women empowerment, business and farming.
Therefore, when the APC guidelines for the upcoming local government election in Kano state were spelt out, so many candidates including this writer expressed their interests to contest the chairmanship of the local government. Among the fourteen (14) candidates are seven graduates, four NCE/DIPLOMA holders and three (3) secondary school certificate holders. Four out of the seven graduates are actually having post graduate degrees in management, health management, engineering and public administration.
The expectations were high and the public opinion were full of optimism that this time around Dawakin tofa would get it right considering the need to consolidate the gains recorded and sustain the legacy of honesty, transparency and efficiency represented by the Kwankwasiyya government of Engr. Rabiu Musa Kwankwaso. In Dawakin tofa, all the candidates were called to the house of his Excellency Dr. Abdullahi Umar Ganduje - Kano state deputy governor. Present to witness the emergence of the candidate were the former deputy governor-Engr Magaji Abdullahi, former elected senator Dr. Maikano Rabiu, former Technical adviser presidential task force on power, former project team lead Public works SURE-P, and currently senior special assistant to the Governor on projects Engr Muazu Magaji, former chairman Dawakin tofa LGA Alhaji Saleh Kuidawa, former commissioner of transport and agriculture Alhaji Alasan Dawaki, Executive Secretary Kano state relief agency Alhaji Ali bashir and all the caucus members of the party represented by the former executives of defunct ANPP, CPC, ACN and Kwankwasiyya. The event was chaired and moderated by the former surveyor general and current commissioner for land and physical planning Surveyor Nadu Yahaya. I am taking time mentioning all these names for you to appreciate the quality of the people that were mandated to produce a credible chairman for Dawakin tofa local government. www.eujournal.org/index.php/esj/article/download/629/69
The criteria adopted by the party to choose the candidate was that of consensus and in line with this, the candidates were asked to first of all introduce themselves, their educational attainments, their experience and their plans and blueprints for Dawakin tofa. All the candidates introduced themselves including the writer. The writer took time to inform the gathering about his numerous achievements including his educational attainments (the writer has three degrees), his experience in the medical and managed care including his sojourn in the pharmaceutical industry. The candidates were subsequently asked to go and sort out among themselves and produce the most acceptable and the most credible candidate. After deliberations, we arrived at Alhaji Hamisu Danguguwa - a master's degree holder, a former administrator, a current chairman of caucus APC D/tofa, a member Kano state CRC committee and Chairman revenue committee D/tofa LGA. He was elected by 11 out of the 14 candidates. He was elected not because he was the most educated among us, but because of his track record of honesty, background and experience. The outcome of our consensus election was communicated to the enlarged caucus. While some members like Eng. Muazu, Dr Maikano and Eng. Magaji Abdullahi applauded our decision and congratulated the winner, the chairman and moderator of the event Surveyor Nadu Yahaya rejected our collective decision and instead asked the enlarged caucus to proceed with fresh selection process in the absence of the majority of the candidates and other caucus members. The outcome of his election produced the least educated candidate - a secondary school certificate holder, and a drug addict. http://www.ehow.com/info_8530065_effects-among-youths-nigerian-society.html
If this is a surprise to you, events which followed will be a shocker. The chanting of "sai Jahili" meaning up illiterate resonated among some of the caucus members. If the behaviour of the crowd could be forgiven due to their ignorance and low understanding of the importance of education in today's politics, what could explain the behaviour of the former surveyor general of the federation - a quantity surveyor of international refute, and a deputy governor (a phd holder) who endorsed this criminality and illegality? When elites are openly showing disdain to western education because of their narrow interests, what do you expect from the majority of the uneducated population? This is the politics in Dawakintofa local government of Kano state and by extension politics of Northern Nigeria. http://www.thenationonlineng.net/2011/index.php/mobile/columnist/sunday/femi-orebe/40105-the-north-reaping-the-whirlwind-of-disdain-for-western-education.html
As it stands now in my local government, it is a sin to present yourself as candidate for elective position as long as you are educated. In fact, it will count as a disadvantage for educated among us to bid for elective position. But how did we arrive at this unfortunate ugly situation? Some of our leaders and elders who immensely benefited from western education free of charge at a very young age have now turned against education because of their very greedy and selfish tendencies. These very selfish old men (in their late sixtees) are toying with the lives of the majority of the population and the future of our children in order to protect their narrow, parochial interests. They have been using all the available weapons to divide and further subjugate us. They have successfully pitched the masses against the educated; the town dwellers against the rural dwellers and in the process promote mediocrity, rancour and disunity among us to perpetuate the status quo. They are promoting hatred towards any educated person attempting to climb up. http://saharareporters.com/news-page/arewa-youths-accuse-northern-elite-under-developing-north?page=1
The danger here is that the majority of our uneducated population are encouraged to show contempt and disdain to western education and by extension discourage their wards from attending schools. This explain why some warfed minds are not interested in pursuing higher education since all its required is minimum of secondary school certificate to contest for elective position (this is one area our elected legislatures should look in during the amendment of constitution).
This is the legacy our educated elders are leaving for us. This is the legacy an incumbent deputy governor- who is a PHD holder, and a former surveyor general of the federation and a current commissioner are leaving for us and our children. These are people who immensely benefited from western education, but are doing all they could to jeopardize the lives of their citizens by entrusting the lives of thousands on the hand of uneducated drug addict because of their selfish political ends.
The people of Dawakin tofa, Kano state and by extension the people of northern Nigeria must sit up and face these unpatriotic leaders who have outlived their usefulness and are hell bent on destroying our future and that of our children otherwise BOKO WILL BE PERMANANTLY HARAM IN OUR COMMUNITY. www.huffingtonpost.com/news/boko-haram
Hamza Ibrahim Baba
Writes from Abuja
Hmmmmmmm! Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile. From: hamza baba <hamzababa2006@yahoo.com> Sender: YanArewa@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 03:32:19 -0700 (PDT) To: dandalinsiyasa@yahoogroups.com<dandalinsiyasa@yahoogroups.com>; dandalin-siyasa@yahoogroups.com<dandalin-siyasa@yahoogroups.com>; yanarewa@yahoogroups.com<yanarewa@yahoogroups.com>;Raayiriga@yahoogroups.com<Raayiriga@yahoogroups.com>; naijaobserver@yahoogroups.com<naijaobserver@yahoogroups.com>; saharareporter@yahoo.com<saharareporter@yahoo.com> ReplyTo: YanArewa@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Yan Arewa] BOKO IS HARAM IN DAWAKINTOFA LGA OF KANO STATE __._,_.___
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Mallah hamza yau ask some vital question at the beginning of your write up, but you end up answering all the questions! Sai Jahili indeed who will be amenable to manipulations and sharing of the monthly allocations to the 'god fathers'. They forsee an educated hamza as stubborn and by virtue of education and exposure as someone who will have an independent mind. These are some of the qualities that political elites in the north are not comfortable with.They prefer 'jahili' who will thumb print anything without knowing what it entail.But an educated Hamza will certainly ask vital questions! PITY. From: hamza baba <hamzababa2006@yahoo.com> To: "dandalinsiyasa@yahoogroups.com" <dandalinsiyasa@yahoogroups.com>; "dandalin-siyasa@yahoogroups.com" <dandalin-siyasa@yahoogroups.com>; "yanarewa@yahoogroups.com" <yanarewa@yahoogroups.com>; "Raayiriga@yahoogroups.com" <Raayiriga@yahoogroups.com>; "naijaobserver@yahoogroups.com" <naijaobserver@yahoogroups.com>; "saharareporter@yahoo.com" <saharareporter@yahoo.com> Subject: [Yan Arewa] BOKO IS HARAM IN DAWAKINTOFA LGA OF KANO STATE __._,_.___
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Are you sure that Abdu Dawakintofa is dead? When did he die? He succeeded Rimi in 1983 (upon his resignation) and he was a full fledged governor, not an acting governor, until October 1983. Your article is specious, self seeking, and palpably misleading. You belittled the horror and terror that is boko haram by equating it with your failed and your chosen candidate's failed attempts at respectively becoming an LGA chairman. No, buddy, the boko haram that has befallen Nigeria is graver than your opportunistic petty politicking and inordinate ambition. You conceded that you and other aspiring candidates settled for Hamisu Danguguwa not because he was the most educated amongst you, yet you railed against a secondary school certificate holder who emerged the candidate following Nadu Yahaya's ordering of an election from the "enlarged caucus". Don't you see the mammoth contradiction in your position here? Don't you see the speciousness of your thought here?. If Mr. Yahaya had the authority to over rule your narrow selection of Danguguwa, who was not the most educated amongst you, why is the election of the "secondary school certificate holder" (be careful with calling him a drug addict, you may pay him millions in damages for defamation if you cannot prove that designation of him by you) wrong? Does it not occur to you that the electors did not dwell on the level of education alone, just as you and your colleagues had initially done, in making their decision? You fault their decision because you believe that they are illiterate. But they did the same thing you did, except that they elected (unlike your narrow caucus-choosing) a candidate not of your liking. Had they elected Danguguwa, would you have questioned their intelligence or mocked their iliteracy? Your utterances clearly demonstrate your disdain for the talakawa, not a lamentation of the absence of education in Dawakintofa LGA. Your elitism is intellectually wretched -- you underestimate the intelligence of the masses and you are scornful of them even though their downtrodden status is traceable to your clique's machinations. As they say in Nigeria, everyday is for the thief but one day is for the owner. The masses whom you loath and degrade with your vile utterances are the owners of Dawakintofa LGA. They just told you so with their votes and chants but you were/are too dumb and too full of yourself to understand their action. They were not rejecting education, they were rejecting educated people like you who have failed them for decades. You are better off understanding them and heeding to their messages now that they have not grabbed spears, machetes, cudgels, etc and gone after you and your clique. Lastly, do not ever trivialize the pains and agony that boko haramites have visited upon Nigeria and Nigerians with silly commentaries like this one. Nebukadineze Adiele Reject Religion; Revive Reasoning! In a message dated 3/27/2014 6:51:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, knocktonal@yahoo.com writes:
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Hehehehe.. Kwankwasiyya; Amana! I'm not at all surprised! Anyone that seek to force citizens into a FELLOWSHIP - created in his own name to serve his political interest - will definitely prefer mediocres and pretenders who must not see, hear, or talk about 'evil'. And educated LGA Chairman cannot fit into an air-tight fellowship. Finally, the fowl has come back to roost. Malam Hamza, it is unfortunate how your loyalty and praises for the Kwankwasiyya achievements is repaid this way. This is indeed a sad commentary on democracy and political participation in our beloved Kano State. Shaking my head with 'sallallami'.. As I see it. Ibrahim Sanyi - Sanyi http://projectgmb2015.blogspot.com/ __._,_.___
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MM, According to the writer you were among the people who took the decision to choose a mediocre as the chairmanship candidate of DTF LG.my question to you is,what did you do to block the choice of this mediocre as the candidate for the chairmanship of the LG? If this monumental fraud had happened before you and you didn't do anything to prevent it,then do you have a moral right to talk about it the way you did in your comment on the issue? Throughout Hamza's write up there was no where he made mention that you protested the choice of this mediocre as the chairmanship candidate of APC kwankwasiyya . Sent from my iPhone Any education that makes you despise the principle of justice and doctrine of due process is better review,because it is worse than no education at all. Anonymous.
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Barrister Maihula, I am also interested in knowing the role played by Muazu Magaji who doubles as State Coordinator of APC Youth Vanguard and SA to Governor RMK. Was he on side of consensus candidate selected by the 'post-graduate elites' or on the side of the 'Jahili' who ironically is the choice of his current employer? Be-that-as-it-may, this is kind of retrogressive politics that being played by the same persons that goes to town castigating PDP of imposition of candidates and lack of internal democracy. BTW, they were once part of PDP. And as they said, a leopard cannot change its spotty skin. This is the kind of price that must be paid by the independents, citizens who refused to surrender their freedom to political fellowship, and others like Hamza who are not yet ACCEPTED as part of Kwankwasiyya despite their stressful effort at painting the current KNSG in bright lights, its numerous shortcomings not withstanding. Wannan kamata yayi ya zama izna/darasi ga irin su friend d'ina Barrister. It is now clear that it isn't the RED CAP that make Kwankwasian. It is the Leader and the retinue of priests in his Temple! Shikenan! As I see it. Ibrahim Sanyi-Sanyi __._,_.___
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Ibrahim, You said it as it is,any way let us for the reply of Eng.MM on this issue. Sent from my iPhone Any education that makes you despise the principle of justice and doctrine of due process is better review,because it is worse than no education at all. Anonymous. __._,_.___
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I think Engr. MM need not reply on this issue for fear of being misqouted out of context and to save himself from un necessary retributions from kyankyasiyya lords. We should understand the peculier situation kwankwasiyya adherents are situated where any contary opinion might be interptreted by leadership diffrently From: Maihula <maihulahaidar@gmail.com> To: "YanArewa@yahoogroups.com" <YanArewa@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [Yan Arewa] Re: [dandalinsiyasa] BOKO IS HARAM IN DAWAKINTOFA LGA OF KANO STATE __._,_.___
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Haba dai! Sai kace a Ogboni Cult? But there's nothing like freedom! That's the reason FREEMEN and INDEPENDENTS live, fight and die for honor and dignity. William Wallace legendary speech at the Battle of Stirling Bridge in 'Braveheart'; Quote "I am William Wallace! What will you do without freedom? Will you fight?" "Two thousand against ten?" - the veteran shouted. "No! We will "Yes!" Wallace shouted back. "Fight and you may die. Run and you End of Quote Ibrahim Sanyi - Sanyi __._,_.___
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Let me shift the curtain wall, and defend the unbeatable. Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN From: Ibrahim Sanyi-Sanyi <aim.ssanyi@gmail.com> Sender: YanArewa@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 17:49:24 +0100 To: <YanArewa@yahoogroups.com> ReplyTo: YanArewa@yahoogroups.com __._,_.___
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I share some points with Nebu here. My understanding is that the Talakawas, who are in the majority, got their way, which is what democracy is all about. It seems there is an ongoing misunderstanding/mistrust between the western "educated" few, who might be living in cities and the villagers. They might have distanced or alienated themselves from the Talakawas, knowingly or unknowingly, thus creating for themselves a problem like this which has waited for long to happen. Hamza's emphasis on qualification of candidates as a basis of their suitability for the position betrays a mindset that assumes your educational qualification is the ONLY thing needed to scale through and get political office. There is this invisible but thick demarcation between the elite and the rest which always manifest when it comes to situations like this. What would the reaction be had the few contestants have their way? Wouldn't that mean the mammoth crowd that celebrated the emergence of a "Jahili" will feel cheated? The politics of yan boko who depend on "connections" is different from that of grassroot politicians who are with people. On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 1:16 PM, <Nebukadineze@aol.com> wrote:
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It seem you are not prepared to answer my inquiries that is why you resort to regarding me as dodorido but if am dodorido what about ss is he also a dodorido?he also indicated his interest to know the role you played in that selection process. I think what Tsakuwa said is the real reason why you would not venture to answer my inquiries, I therefore take the advice of Malam Tsakuwa,to give you uzuri so that you will not risk being misinterpreted by the kwankwasawa,since you have a political agenda therefore I would not want it be ruin or contribute to its ruination. I wish you a good night sleep and success in the prosecution of your political agenda. Sent from my iPhone Any education that makes you despise the principle of justice and doctrine of due process is better review,because it is worse than no education at all. Anonymous.
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Hehehehe. .Dodorido kuma? Hushe nan mana. Barrister Maihula is real; I can attest to his existance as a legal personality. But this issue of 'Dodorido' is by-the-way. It was deliberately deployed as a ploy to evade the tight-middle of Schylla and Charybdis Mu'azu Magaji was forced into by Hamza's write-up. I still feel that MM has some explanations to make on where his loyalty on this tug actually lies. Is he with the 14 graduate contestants that were rigged out or is he with the old-brigade of educated politicians in Kwankwasiyya who ensured the emergence of a mediocre secondary school leaver as the APC chairmanship candidate for the forthcoming LG election in Dawakin Tofa. As I see it. Ibrahim Sanyi - Sanyi http://projectgmb2015.blogspot.com/ __._,_.___
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I want to understand something pls. They first did what was right and among them they were urged to do another. Were they forced the second time or every man has a price including the writer? Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile. From: Ibrahim Sanyi-Sanyi <aim.ssanyi@gmail.com> Sender: YanArewa@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 22:23:02 +0100 To: <YanArewa@yahoogroups.com> ReplyTo: YanArewa@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Yan Arewa] Re: [dandalinsiyasa] BOKO IS HARAM IN DAWAKINTOFA LGA OF KANO STATE __._,_.___
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Mallam Hamza you have taken this so far. This also, shows how amateur our contemporary young western educated people are in politics. You should know in elective position not only eduction is considered, but many other things like human relation, moral upbringing, acumen, maturity, respect for elders, community sublimation, someone's contribution to the area he lives etc. So, one can score high in formal western education but fails woefully in other endeavors. Also, the way you displaced your anger symbolizes that you will not be accommodating and enduring when you assume the mantle of leadership, this enough disqualifies you and those with ideologies similar to yours. The way you cast encomium on the flag bearer and your leaders symbolizes you as sensational and many will view you as an educationally motivated arrogant. And all these qualities are what make people in rural areas to detest people with western education. My advice to you is that you should be patient in life and humble in arguing with people. As Muslims we know power belongs to the Almighty Allah. He gives it to whom he pleases and takes it away from whom he pleases at the times he pleases. Also, in politics, there is respect for all and before you join the race you need basic redumentary training from those you consider illiterates, because no one has monopoly on education. You can't be all round in all human endeavors. Sorry if it hurts. Dr. Salisu Tofa Sent from my iPad __._,_.___
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thank you Dr. Muhammad Salisu. i just want ask Hamza what qualifies a person to be illitetrate? In ability to read and write in any language? In ability to read and write in English language? I'm sure Mallam Hamza refers to the second. So let him explain to us whether chinese, russians, italians, iranians, and the likes who are not well versed in the english language are illitrates or not? From: Salisu Ahmed Ibrahim <salisuahmedibrahim68@gmail.com> To: "YanArewa@yahoogroups.com" <YanArewa@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 6:59 AM Subject: Re: [Yan Arewa] BOKO IS HARAM IN DAWAKINTOFA LGA OF KANO STATE Mallam Hamza you have taken this so far. This also, shows how amateur our contemporary young western educated people are in politics. You should know in elective position not only eduction is considered, but many other things like human relation, moral upbringing, acumen, maturity, respect for elders, community sublimation, someone's contribution to the area he lives etc. So, one can score high in formal western education but fails woefully in other endeavors. Also, the way you displaced your anger symbolizes that you will not be accommodating and enduring when you assume the mantle of leadership, this enough disqualifies you and those with ideologies similar to yours. The way you cast encomium on the flag bearer and your leaders symbolizes you as sensational and many will view you as an educationally motivated arrogant. And all these qualities are what make people in rural areas to detest people with western education. My advice to you is that you should be patient in life and humble in arguing with people. As Muslims we know power belongs to the Almighty Allah. He gives it to whom he pleases and takes it away from whom he pleases at the times he pleases. Also, in politics, there is respect for all and before you join the race you need basic redumentary training from those you consider illiterates, because no one has monopoly on education. You can't be all round in all human endeavors. Sorry if it hurts. Dr. Salisu Tofa Sent from my iPad
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I'm afraid the commentaries on Hamza's write up are tending towards an obfuscation of his intended protest. "So let him explain to us whether chinese, russians, italians, iranians, and the likes who are not well versed in the english language are illitrates or not?" @ Dr Salisu Tofa, I do not know if you are still in the academia or you have taken your PhD elsewhere; or perhaps you are in the hospital but I am sure you would not vote an SSCE holder to be your HOD or committe chair or CMD as the case may be. The problem I think is we have left politics in the hands of illiterates, semi-literate and the unloving educated ones that an attempt to altruistically step into the ring to make change is viewed with so much circumspection. What moral has a drug addict to teach anybody for God's sake (if Hamza's allegation is true about Danguguwa)? But is this not the case in almost all our local governments? "...And all these qualities are what make people in rural areas to detest people with western education." ~Dr Salisu Tofa The above assertion is not completely true. Finally, "As Muslims we know power belongs to the Almighty Allah. He gives it to whom he pleases and takes it away from whom he pleases at the times he pleases." ~Dr Salisu TofaIt is with this kind of arguments that people cheat. They cheat you and tell you it is what God destined! Which God? Which Allah? Certainly not the One God who is Just and Fair. People will rig elections and be calling God! How? They'll impose candidates on the people and be calling God! How? We need to be fair to ourselves and to God. @ Mal Muhammad, you said: "I share some points with Nebu here. My understanding is that the Talakawas, who are in the majority, got their way, which is what democracy is all about." We need to step up our game if our local governments are to be the true vehicle of grassroots development in Nigeria. Aliyu Bala Aliyu From: Kabiru Inuwa <tsakuwa2000@yahoo.com> Sender: YanArewa@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 04:48:54 -0700 (PDT) ReplyTo: YanArewa@yahoogroups.com __._,_.___
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Is politics not about performance? Tafawa Balewa what was his certificate when he held the position of Prime minister, what was Shehu Shagari's certificate when he was president? What is d sine qua non for that elective position? If met that we will now be about leadership! Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile. Sender: YanArewa@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 08:08:25 +0000 To: <YanArewa@yahoogroups.com> __._,_.___
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Pls define: "What is d sine qua non for that elective position? If met that we will now be about leadership!" From: "Arc Ayaka Torna Aondoakura Rueben (JP)" <knocktonal@yahoo.com> Sender: YanArewa@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 08:22:44 +0000 __._,_.___
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That the requisite qualification for such an elective position is SSCE. Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 08:24:26 +0000 __._,_.___
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Pls define: politics for me. Performance for me. Then we take it from there. Aliyu Bala Aliyu From: "Arc Ayaka Torna Aondoakura Rueben (JP)" <knocktonal@yahoo.com> Sender: YanArewa@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 08:32:56 +0000 __._,_.___
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Politics means relating to citizens or the activities associated with the governance of a country or other area, esp. the debate or conflict among individuals or parties having or hoping to achieve power. Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 08:40:33 +0000 __._,_.___
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What happend in Dawakin-Tofa LG is not about abhoring western education only but about brazen injustice. Amir Abdulazeez Chedi Quarters Chedi-Ingawa, Kano. Sent from my BlackBerry® Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 08:24:26 +0000 __._,_.___
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Mallam Aliyu, It is not a primary election. What is happening is that APC, as they say, provided two options to select a candidate. A consensus and if that failed an option A4 like primary election. In Kano, the party opted for the first option to avoid the usual bitterness that trail a primary. What Hamza said was that they, the aspirants, were allowed by the caucus to elect one of them and they settled for a masters degree holder. The chairman of the caucus, for undisclosed reason(s), put aside their decision and ordered for an election from within the wider caucus and an SSCE holder won. What I understand is that the Dawakin Tofa's mode seems to be the most transparent and the will of majority prevailed because an elections was conducted. Even Hamza did not complain that the election was not transparent. Many local governments in the state are now enmeshed in one kind of crisis or the other due to absence of transparency (the Dawakin Tofa mode) in those areas. Leadership is not about educational qualification alone, it is about many other qualities. With all the PhD holders and professors that are/were involved in corruption and bad governance in addition to other bad things, we should be wiser to know and understand that good governance did not begin and end with an educational qualification. Agreed that education is a very very important factor without which there would be no development, but we have to appreciate the fact that it is not the only thing needed. The people who are to be governed in those local government knows the contestants better and they have their reasons for choosing to side with a "Jahili". Also the system is that all the departments and other bodies in the local government are run by educated civil servants who possessed every needed qualification to be there. It is not as if an SSCE holder is to do everything. Of course his education will help tremendously in his work and understanding of how to govern and detect anything. Besides, we should direct our anger to appropriate quaters, that is the constitution that pegged the qualification of an aspiring chairman to only SSCE. من جهاز الـ iPhone الخاص بي __._,_.___
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Give me a more academic definition of politics. You are an Architect right? Meaning you have been to an institution of higher learning. This wishy washy definition of yours doesn't "I must be quick to admit that amassing degrees does not have a direct bearing with performance but there should be minimum standards for roles, tasks, assignments. My Governor, Muazu Babangida Aliyu has a PhD, and is the worst thing to have befallen Niger State. The President, Goodluck Jonathan claims he has a PhD, yet no mortal who has occupied that office has been such a colossal failure! BTW, I am not saying it must be a University degree, let the person have acquired a Higher education. It is bad enough that the quality of graduates are low. What more secondary and primary school certificate holders to run the affairs of the Local Government! If I may ask, would you people want such a person to be Governor of your state?" There is a thing such as putting things within their proper context. What was the general level of education in the days of Shagari/Tafawa Balewa and Sardauna? Are you equally aware that Dan Masanin Kano, Alhaji Maitama Sule was Nigeria's Representative to the United Nations? How many degrees did he have? Are you equally aware that George Washington, Abraham Linclon, Harry Truman and a few other presidents of the US did not go to college? But for goodness sakes times are different. Awareness, education per population, political consciousness et al have changed between 1914, 1960 and 2014. Will you let a primary school or secondary school leaver be the chairman of your Architects Association? Aliyu Bala Aliyu From: "Arc Ayaka Torna Aondoakura Rueben (JP)" <knocktonal@yahoo.com> Sender: YanArewa@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 09:02:39 +0000 __._,_.___
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i'm not in any way in support of jahili over and above an educated fellow. My grouse has been with the way my brothers, sisters, parents and even grand parents who are well versed in Islamic knowledge are categorised as Illitrates. I always find this profilling very disturbing to say the least. If a well known northern hater from the south condemed us as illitrates that should be understandable. But to dismiss my kith and kins who can read and write in arabic very well as illitrates by a fellow northerner simply because they can not read and write in english leave much to be desired. On the issue of raising the bar, the problem is, those educated fellows are not helping matters at all. They indulged in corruption. They segregated themselves in schools, hospitals, recreational areas and many other places.So tell me how can the masses trust them with any thing.In essence, they don't give good example and good account of themselves as educated to show any diffrence from the uneducated. Therefore, if masses collectively loath them, it is withing their right to do so based on bitter experience and constant breech of trust. For example, i know a house at Hausawa Zoo road that used to be a haven for sharing of monthly allocations of one of the local government in Jigawa state during the tenure of Saminu. Every month, the house will be a beehive of activity for a week, latter every thing would become quite untill another month! All manner of people are there, the business class, contractors, traditional rulers, DPM, CHAIRMAN, SECRETRY, CASHIER, COUNCILLORS, SYCOPHANTS AND what have you. I don't blame the masses if they prefer Jahili to an educated person who will relocate to Kano city, Kaduna, or Abuja untill the tenure is over! They need somebody from among them who will stay with them, live with them, show emphathy, and even share the money with them without necessarilly castigating them as nuisance. What a pity! Its such a catch22 situation! From: Muhammad <meinaggee@gmail.com> To: "YanArewa@yahoogroups.com" <YanArewa@yahoogroups.com>; dandalinsiyasa@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2014 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [Yan Arewa] BOKO IS HARAM IN DAWAKINTOFA LGA OF KANO STATE Mallam Aliyu, It is not a primary election. What is happening is that APC, as they say, provided two options to select a candidate. A consensus and if that failed an option A4 like primary election. In Kano, the party opted for the first option to avoid the usual bitterness that trail a primary. What Hamza said was that they, the aspirants, were allowed by the caucus to elect one of them and they settled for a masters degree holder. The chairman of the caucus, for undisclosed reason(s), put aside their decision and ordered for an election from within the wider caucus and an SSCE holder won. What I understand is that the Dawakin Tofa's mode seems to be the most transparent and the will of majority prevailed because an elections was conducted. Even Hamza did not complain that the election was not transparent. Many local governments in the state are now enmeshed in one kind of crisis or the other due to absence of transparency (the Dawakin Tofa mode) in those areas. Leadership is not about educational qualification alone, it is about many other qualities. With all the PhD holders and professors that are/were involved in corruption and bad governance in addition to other bad things, we should be wiser to know and understand that good governance did not begin and end with an educational qualification. Agreed that education is a very very important factor without which there would be no development, but we have to appreciate the fact that it is not the only thing needed. The people who are to be governed in those local government knows the contestants better and they have their reasons for choosing to side with a "Jahili". Also the system is that all the departments and other bodies in the local government are run by educated civil servants who possessed every needed qualification to be there. It is not as if an SSCE holder is to do everything. Of course his education will help tremendously in his work and understanding of how to govern and detect anything. Besides, we should direct our anger to appropriate quaters, that is the constitution that pegged the qualification of an aspiring chairman to only SSCE. من جهاز الـ iPhone الخاص بي __._,_.___
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"The outcome of our consensus election was communicated to the enlarged caucus. While some members like Eng. Muazu, Dr Maikano and Eng. Magaji Abdullahi applauded our decision and congratulated the winner, the chairman and moderator of the event Surveyor Nadu Yahaya rejected our collective decision and instead asked the enlarged caucus to proceed with fresh selection process in the absence of the majority of the candidates and other caucus members. The outcome of his election produced the least educated candidate - a secondary school certificate holder, and a drug addict" How could a right thinking person say that the above election was a credible election? It was a sham election, conducted by shameless person. Hamza Baba On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 1:48 PM, Hamza Baba <hamzababa2006@yahoo.com> wrote: Gentlemen Apology for not responding to your various comments either condemning or commending my write up. What some of you don't know and do not want to understand is the motive behind the selection of semi illiterate drug addict as the candidate. In this 21st century, it will be mischievious for any one to justify the selection of an uneducated drug addict as local govt chairman candidate in a local government full of educated people and in a race full of capable hands. I don't blame Nebukadineze Adiele for his ignorance on how our local politics works in the north, I don't blame him for his misunderstanding on how selfish, how greedy our elites are. But I will blame my fellow kanonians and by extension other northerners attacking me for this write up. I repeat everything was wrong with the selection process considering the fact that APC in kano Clearly spelt out the conditions and guidelines for the election and emphasized on giving all the aspirants chance to produce one single candidate thru consensus. That was exactly what we did with the consent of all the stakeholders abd elders, the moderator inclusive. Though not unanimous, we voted 11 against 3 in favor of one of us -Hamisu danguguwa who is also a local politician, chairman caucus and a member of state CRC conmittee. Ofcourse he is not the most educated, but he is the most qualified by virtue of he being a local politician, an experienced hand and a tested and trusted bureacrat. He is living and always in touch with the grassroots. So, why are they rejecting him for a confirmed illiterate who could not write a simple letter in Hausa language and who was caught several times taking Indian hemp. Our collective silence higlights the tragedy that haa befallen northern nigeria and shows the depth our elites plumb. Nebukadineze Adiele what are you promoting? Mediocrisy? Are you people not the same pepple insuting and attackibg us of being backward and showing disdain to western education? Why are u condemnning good governance, transparency and accountability? Are you from Dawakintofa or Kano state? Do you know the candidate in question? Do you know his antecedents, his moral uprightness or his background? Why are you poking your nose in an affair you have no knowledge of? What I am saying and repeating is we are in 21st century, and therefore we deserve better governance. We can't afford secondary cert holders with poor communication skills, poor understanding of economics, poor understanding of public relations, poor understanding of modern politicking and above all questionable moral uprightness as our leaders. Will you entrust the maagement of your conpany to semi illiterates? Then why should you entrust the livea of thousands to somebody with a questionable moral background? We have every reason to be wary of Jahili as our chairman. Ofcourse the candidate is Jahili because we know he is one and the enlarged caucus chanted the slogan of "sai jahili" meaning up illiterate after his dubious selection. You people don't know the candidate in question, but we know him. He is Jahili because he is lacking in both western and islamic education. And to compound the problem a drug addict. And you are telling me I shouldn't complain. I should just accept him as my chairman to ruin my life and the future of our children. I am talking as somebody with wxperience. We had a local govt chairman who was educated and he did very well in the areas of education, agriculture and youth empowerment. We had another Chairman who was not educated, and he did terribly bad. He messed up all the achievements recorded by his precedessor. He was knowingly and unknowingly used to loot our resources. We don't want a repeat of that horrible experience. We will not relent, we will not fold our arms, we will not stop writing, we will not stop protesting untill good governance, transparency and public accountability reigns in our communities. And we can not achieve that by promoting semi illiterate and drug addict clowns as our leaders.. Enough is enough! Hamza Baba Writes fron Abuja Amir Abdulazeez <abdulazeezamir@yahoo.com> wrote: Ya kamata mu gane wadannan abubuwan 1. A Dawakin-Tofa abin da ake nufi da dan boko shi ne wanda ba zai yadda makiyan talakawa su juya shi kamar rakumi da akala ba, amma ba wai mai Masters ko digiri ba. 2. A Dawakin-Tofa abin da ake nufi da jahili shi ne wanda zai mika wuya ga makiyan talakawa su juya shi kamar rakumi da akala ba, a sace kudin talakawa, amma ba wai mai mara ilimin boko ko addini ba. 3. Dan boko (Saleh Kwuidawa) ya mulki Dtf kuma ya inganta ilimi ya kyautata wa talakawa, sai dai kuma ya ki bai wa makiyan talakawa hadin kai. 3. Wanda ba dan boko ba (Ahmad Speaker) ya mulki Dtf kuma bai yi abin kirki ba, sai dai kuma ya bai wa makiyan talakawa hadin kai an sace dukiyar al'umma. Amir Abdulazeez Chedi Quarters Chedi-Ingawa, Kano. Sent from my BlackBerry® From: Kabiru Inuwa <tsakuwa2000@yahoo.com> Sender: dandalinsiyasa@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 03:56:00 -0700 (PDT) To: YanArewa@yahoogroups.com<YanArewa@yahoogroups.com>; raayi riga<Raayiriga@yahoogroups.com>; dandalinsiyasa@yahoogroups.com<dandalinsiyasa@yahoogroups.com> ReplyTo: dandalinsiyasa@yahoogroups.com Subject: [dandalinsiyasa] Re: [Yan Arewa] BOKO IS HARAM IN DAWAKINTOFA LGA OF KANO STATE __._,_.___
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