Before I go back to my quiet corner and follow the troika debating this issue through and through, I should just like to remind us all, especially those who downplay the role of religion in this bloody conflict, that the foundations of Christianity is Judaism, not Islam – and the foundation of the great religion of Islam is Judaism, not Christianity. This I would like to point out to Brother Nathanael too.
You won't hear from me again until this thread – with or without any dust of battle - is ended.
In the meantime I will begin my study of Mark Gabriel who I only heard of, for the very first time, yesterday
On Saturday, 9 August 2014 20:01:32 UTC+2, Cornelius Hamelberg wrote:
PS.For the record, I should just like to make the following amendments:
That Shia Iran's number one hate object ( all categories) is possibly not Umar (Sunnism's 2nd Caliph) who "conquered Jerusalem) but the accursed Yazid and his father Muawiyah
For now the unending alliance between the Great Satan & Iran continues: Act 1 was the hanging of Saddam Hussein, in Act 2, Obama bombs Islamic State's ammunition depots, to prevent the genocide of Iraqi Christians.
"Iran has never attacked any other country" (according to the Nigerian historian Ogugua Anunoby) - to an extent true – it was Saddam who first attacked the Islamic Republic of Iran, destroyed their oil city Abadan and imposed the eight year war on Iran; as the Quran says, "Allah does not like the aggressor", i.e. those who initiate aggression. On the other hand there's Hezbollah, Iran's surrogate attack dogs when it comes to attacking Israel. Imam Khomeini also instituted al Quds Day. ( By the way I have a few Palestinian friends who tell me confidentially that they prefer the Jews to the Shia)
There's the Hypocrisy over Gaza and there's also the Gaza & the UN war criminals and the End the Unjust Jewish Occupation of Arab Land!
I'll now sit by and enjoy the configurations of the new forum trinity, the Kenneth Harrow - Moses Ochonu – Pablo Idahosa axis of discussion...
On Saturday, 9 August 2014 17:26:47 UTC+2, Cornelius Hamelberg wrote:...Lord Ogugua Anunoby,
Respect Sir! See how I have elevated you – from Professorship to Lordship!
As Rumi opines, your very next elevation might be to angelhood!
You say that "Israel is not going to go away. We all know this for a fact."
You probably "know" that as "a fact" only because you know that should Israel keep on making concessions to those who believe that Israel is "occupying Arab Land" then there would be no Israel left.
I was unpleasantly reminded of what you call "Israel's occupation and land grab" when I checked out something in the Christian Scriptures in which Lord Jesus Christ in Acts of the Apostles 1: 7-8 mentions his beloved Jerusalem, his Judea and Samaria now known by the Palestinians as "The West Bank" , singing in Arabic, like a Ladysmith Black Mambazo choir in South Africa, "Black is black, I want my country back"
You say that "Iran made public its nuclear development program" What are you talking about? Transparency? Kitman and Taqiyya?
Heaven forbid that I should trivialise the threat from Iranian nuclear weapons when they have already promised "to wipe Israel off the map!"
If you want to start with the scroll there's the Book of Esther. Moving to more recent fact Cyrus II of Persia was called Messiah ...
Lately, you make a lot of tall claims about Iran. So how did the Persian Empire come about? And how did the Ottoman Empire come into being? How do you think the British Empire or indeed any other empire came into being? Islam conquered Persia (that's why for them, Umar (Sunnism's 2nd Caliph) is the most hated Arab that has ever lived (including Saddam Hussein). The Safavids introduced Shi'ism. About peaceful Persia, just look at the career of Nader Shah during whose reign more than half of Iraq and vast swathes of Afghanistan and some of the former soviet republics were part of the vast Persian Empire which was still expanding in all directions. When you consider the doctrine of Dar-al-Islam versus dar al harb – with ISIS now laying claim to Spain and all that has ever, even once been under Islamic jurisdiction you must arrive at the sane understanding that Islam is not in recession – dawah is in progress and military aggression is in abeyance/ suspension due to a hudna - with pal al-Islam biding its time until the military forces of Islam are strong again. In the meantime ask any Islamist and he will tell you that when the US falls then Islam will take over. So Islam is waiting for the downfall of what Iran calls "<a onmousedown="this.href='https:
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