...Nwanna Obi Nwakanma:
Reading Bolaji Aluko describe any other, in this case, you and Nebu as "ethnic supremacists", I wondered if he really thought over the expression before labeling you thus. My reason being that of all the "ethnic supremacists" in all of Nigeria's internet forums, every discerning mind knows there is none more qualified for that reproach than Bolaji Aluko himself.
Whoa; talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Well, no surprise there any ways. Psychological attitudinal projection of sorts typical of the man Bolaji Aluko. What else can it be!
Cheers.
Mazi KC Prince Asagwara
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Subject: ||NaijaObserver|| RE: [Raayiriga] Re: [NIgerianWorldForum] RE: ||ABBA|| 13 Northern states and WAEC results....
The only "ethnic supremacists" in these fora for Bolaji Aluko are people like Obi Nwakanma and Nebu - so says the uber ethnic supremacist himself by the name, Bolaji Aluko. I mentioned the fact that Chima is Igbo simply because Abba insisted that "Southerners" should not presume to know the problems in the North or proffer solutions to what they know nothing about. Professor Chima's work was dedicated to nomadic education, particularly the education of the pastoralist communities in the North, and he did not have to be a Fulani to know the problem or the solution to the crisis of education in the North which Abba denies. For mentioning Chima's Igbo identity, Obi Nwakanma becomes "supremacist" - and largely because the word "Igbo" raises the hackles of the likes of Bolaji Aluko. The problem is simple: the crisis of education in the North is a Nigerian problem, and requires all hands on deck: it does not matter from where the solutions come, - northerner or Southerner. If that makes me triumphalist, then I'm glad. I do not consider the situation in the North of Nigeria, a "northern problem," because its effects are not, and even in the longer run, will not be confined to the North. And yes, Chima was the central proponent of nomadic education, and it was largely by his advocacy that Prof. Jubril Aminu as minister adopted it as policy and appointed him the first Chairman of the National Commission on Nomadic Education. We must pay just tribute to a man and his work, period.
Obi Nwakanma
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Subject: Re: [Raayiriga] Re: [NIgerianWorldForum] RE: ||ABBA|| 13 Northern states and WAEC results....
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Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 10:54:22 -040013 Northern States Education
Mr. Dear Mr. Abba,
I want to congratulate you for your ability to take on the world. It reminds me of a soccer game we watched in high school. It was "England vs. the rest of the world." And England won. I think that you think you are winning. The best brains in these list serves have tried to convince you that the state of education in Nigeria is dire and that the state of education in the northern region is beyond disastrous but you are not persuaded. I want to put in my 11/2 pence because whatever we have been talking or discussing about any other Nigeria endeavor, be it development, politics, national interest, security, etc., does not matter until we have an educated populace. That is the beginning of wisdom. Education is too important a matter to be left to politicians such as you are.
Many people have provided a lot of statistics to you to prove their points but I want to draw your attention to one graph provided by Mr. Aluko (forget his opening paragraph on the Igbo for what he did there was to provide you a pacifier to calm you down so that you can listen to him). That graph shows the number of children not in school. It stretched from the left all the way to the right end of the paper. The number is 8.7 million of OUR children. And believe it or not over 70% of them live in the north. If that number does not scare you, I propose that you return your cap and gown especially your hood to the place you got it from. Mr. Aluko, after he had played the good cop to Mr. Nwakanma and Mr. Adiele's bad cop, went on to deliver exactly the same message, that education in the north is very scary. I wish that you would pay attention to what these professional educators are saying.
I want to concede some of your points, PDP is responsible for some of deficiencies we have in education. They do have a hand for they have been in charge for over twenty years and would have claimed credit if it were otherwise. But this preceded PDP. So the blame also goes to the military leaders and the premiers before them. However the important point from my perspective is that it no longer matters who was/is at fault.
What are we going to do about it?
I want to use my village Achi, and my local government, Oji River Local Government, to show what can be done.
1. We the people wrote off the government (as a manner of speaking) and took things into our hands.
2. The Diaspora Oji River people donated desks and chairs to the schools in the local government
3. Diaspora Achi people donated backpacks and books to ALL the students in the village.
4. We are donating 50 computers (laptops) to 50 schools in the LGA. And more will be donated next year.
5. Science teachers do not like to go to Achi because it is not Enugu or Onitsha. We are giving monthly stipend to science teachers in Achi to help our students get the science education they need. This is attracting science teachers to the village.
6. One of our Diaspora members, Dr. Humphrey Iroku, donated sports jerseys to the schools and others have done similar things.
7. Etc.
The examples above about Achi/Oji River Diaspora is a mere microcosm of what is happening in most southern villages because state governors (like Mr. Chime of Enugu) are just city mayors, they see their famous cities and try to make them beautiful - as a show and tell piece. The northern villagers should go and do likewise. And when APC comes aboard and is different from PDP they can then leave things in their hands, but meanwhile let us as individuals and concerned citizens try to educate our kids. The children of PDP politicians are not among those 8.7 million children out of school. Their children live here in US and go to schools I dreamt my children would go. And when they graduate they will come back to claim that it is their turn to be president. We point to Abubakar's son as the poster boy for this example.
Mr. Abba, do not deny the truth for as the Holy Book says "the truth shall make thee free."
Nigeria education is bad and the northern education is bader (worse).
Benjamin Obiajulu Aduba
Boston, Massachusetts
September 30, 2014
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Sent: Mon, Sep 29, 2014 4:17 am
Subject: Re: [Raayiriga] Re: [NIgerianWorldForum] RE: ||ABBA|| 13 Northern states and WAEC results....
Abba Gumel:
Yes, there are ethnic supremacists galore in these our discussions, who want to put other groups down and build their own up, using numbers and named individuals. I put Obi Nwakanma, the Forrest Gump of Nigeria's history (who happens to be EVERYWHERE that Nigeria's history is being made) as a prime example (Nebukadineze is another), hence his naming an "Igbo Education professor" as the originator of Nomadic education. Is the fellow an "Igbo Education" professor, or an Education Professor who happens to be Igbo? Or when did "Prof. Chima" become a Yoruba fellow with a name like Chima - so why highlight his Igboness, except for the supermenschen attitude that he always exhibits when it comes to things Igbo? If it is to highlight possible cooperation between North and South as he put it, NO OTHER person worked with Chima - no single OTHER Igbo or non-Igbo, non-Northerner?
It is ridiculous, and it is that attitude of ethnic triumphalism that makes people to pull punches, and not address a central thesis of Northern education deprivation that is correct....
Moving on....
Yes, his main thesis remains the same: the North is in trouble, economically, socially, politically - and academically, which is the main discussion point here.
You ask for proof of the academic problem, and I will attempt it, NOT to make the North feel inferior or the make the South feel superior. The data is sordid throughout for the country, just much more sordid in the North, and the quicker the scale of problem is known and acknowledged, the better it is for everybody, since we are yet one country. Northern elites like yourself, more so university Northern elite like yourself have a special responsibility to do something, and finally Muslim university Northern elite like yourself bear the greatest responsibility.
First some short-hand information:
School age: 6-11
Lower Secondary school age: 12-14
Higher Secondary school age: 15-17
Next, is this school attendance information of Nigeria:
There is this troubling information of Nigeria's out of school population: 8.7 million, more than 40% of Sub-Sahara Africa:
If we now drill down inside Nigeria as to what contributes to this and why this is so, we begin to see patterns. Even though enrollment may be LARGER in some Northern states than Southern states, the percentage enrollment is SMALLER, and completion/transition rates even SMALLER yet. Gender problems also become highlighted.
The situation becomes worse in the Secondary School level, with completion and transition to higher levels being problematic:
Finally, to show that this North-South imbalance is historical, and not necessarily changing for the better as years wear on, I present these fairly dated tables (the paper was presented in 2002 by one Professor Okoblah):
Primary school disparity:
Secondary School disparity:
University Undergraduate enrollment disparity:
Finally, we look at some historical JAMB enrollment and new university entrants figures:
The above more precise information supplements the table that I gave a few days ago, when I challenged you, Abba, in order for anybody to ESTIMATE this mis-alignment between our census and education enrolment figures around our dear country Nigeria, IF the CIA's age distribution for Nigeria is to be believed, viz:
QUOTE
0-14 years: 43.2% (male 39,151,304/female 37,353,737)
15-24 years: 19.3% (male 17,486,117/female 16,732,533)
25-54 years: 30.5% (male 27,697,644/female 26,285,816)
55-64 years: 3.9% (male 3,393,631/female 3,571,301)
65 years and over: 3% (male 2,621,845/female 2,861,826) (2014 est.)
UNQUOTE
Then for our 2014 population estimate of 177 million, here is the age distribution, and school entry exit estimates:
Age Distribution of Nigerian Citizens (Hand-Waving from CIA's Age Distribution)
Age of citizen
Male
Female
Cumulative
Remark
1
2,796,522
2,668,124
5,464,646
2
2,796,522
2,668,124
10,929,292
3
2,796,522
2,668,124
16,393,937
4
2,796,522
2,668,124
21,858,583
5
2,796,522
2,668,124
27,323,229
Starting Primary School
6
2,796,522
2,668,124
32,787,875
Starting Primary School
7
2,796,522
2,668,124
38,252,521
Starting Primary School
8
2,796,522
2,668,124
43,717,166
Starting Primary School
9
2,796,522
2,668,124
49,181,812
Starting Primary School
10
2,796,522
2,668,124
54,646,458
Leaving Primary School
11
2,796,522
2,668,124
60,111,104
Leaving Primary School
12
2,796,522
2,668,124
65,575,749
Leaving Primary School
13
2,796,522
2,668,124
71,040,395
Leaving Primary School
14
2,796,522
2,668,124
76,505,041
Leaving Primary School
15
1,748,612
1,673,253
79,926,906
Leaving Primary School
16
1,748,612
1,673,253
83,348,771
Leaving Secondary School
17
1,748,612
1,673,253
86,770,636
Leaving Secondary School
18
1,748,612
1,673,253
90,192,501
Leaving Secondary School
19
1,748,612
1,673,253
93,614,366
Leaving Secondary School
20
1,748,612
1,673,253
97,036,231
Leaving Secondary School
21
1,748,612
1,673,253
100,458,096
Leaving University
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