Tuesday, January 27, 2015

RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Fwd: NigerianID | Exposed: How Obama blocked Israeli sale of attack helicopters to Nigeria

Boko Haram (BK) fighters seem indeed to be better motivated than Nigeria's soldiers. One may only guess why this is so. It seems that the Nigerian Army has serious leadership and other house-keeping challenges that would cause soldiers to be so distrustful of their government and commanders that they are unfaithful to their service oath. The Nigerian Army cannot be expected to be uninfected by the inefficiency and ineffectiveness bugs that continue to chew up Nigeria. BK fighters are Islamic zealots. Soldiers' loyalty to a failing state could never match religious fanatics' motivation when this motivation is  driven by hook-line-and-sinker acceptance of the uncertain, unproven, and irredeemable promises of utopic eternal life.

 

oa

From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com [mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kenneth harrow
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 9:57 PM
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Fwd: NigerianID | Exposed: How Obama blocked Israeli sale of attack helicopters to Nigeria

 

these are great questions. but you certainly have to add that boko haram seem much more motivated than the nigerian army, which seems totally intimidated or not motivated. and there has to be a reason for this, which i'd like to know too.
it is easy to blame outsiders, say for arming bh, but there are risks they seem willing to take, unlike the army
ken

On 1/26/15 8:03 PM, Anunoby, Ogugua wrote:

Who is to say that the  purchase of new weapons to fight Boko Haram is not another excuse to divert public funds to private pockets? It is often times reported that Boko Haram's "cut-and-paste" fighters are better armed than Nigeria's soldiers. Why should this be so? Are they also better trained? What is going on?

Boko Haram's many "successes", if her crimes are to be so described, suggest that her fighting force is better led and motivated than Nigeria's. Who supplies weapons to Boko Haram and who pays for them? Boko Haram does not blame anyone but themselves for their failures. It has been reported that Boko Haram fighters are armed with weapons capture from or abandoned by Nigeria's soldiers, and in some cases delivered to them by saboteurs.  Nigeria purchases arms through paid middlemen. Does Boko Haram do the same? Not very likely. Boko Haram is more efficient than Nigeria is. She probably does not operate on a prepared budget, if she has one.  Her insurgency costs her less than Nigeria's response to it costs Nigeria. No thanks to bureaucrats and plutocrats masquerading as patriots.

If Nigeria's military is anything  like the expenditure on it warrants, the country should not have to go shopping for weapons to defeat the Boko Haram insurgency. Nigeria has security services of professional soldiers and others. Boko Haram has anomalous fighters many of whom are impelled by ignorance and  religious devotion. Should Nigeria not be winning the war that the insurgency has become one dares to ask?

If the report below is true, Obama may have done Nigeria a favor. Who is to say that like armored vehicles, rifles and other munitions, any helicopters purchased will not be captured/transferred to Boko Haram. Should the Obama position not have been foreseeable? Was necessary homework done before requests were placed? Is it not the case that there is no better, more prudent, and surer reliance than self-reliance? The failure to acquire helicopters from Israel cannot be the reason for Nigeria's security services' inability to be prevail over Boko Haram fighters. Nigerians are reminded again that their leaders are steeped in the culture of excuses. All failures can be excused away.

 

oa    

 

 

From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com [mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anunoby, Ogugua
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 4:28 PM
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Fwd: NigerianID | Exposed: How Obama blocked Israeli sale of attack helicopters to Nigeria

 

Who is to say that the  purchase of new weapons to fight Boko Haram is not another excuse to divert public funds to private pockets? It is often times reported that Boko Haram "cut-and-paste" fighters are better armed than Nigeria's soldiers. Why should this be so? Are they also better trained? What is going on?

Boko Haram's many "successes", if her crimes are to be so described, suggest that her fighting force is better led and motivated than Nigeria's'. Who supplies weapons to Boko Haram and who pays for them? Bopko haram doers not blame anyone but themselves for their failures. It has been reported that Boko Haram fights with weapons capture from or abandoned by Nigeria's soldiers, and in some cases delivered to her by saboteurs.  Nigeria purchases arms through paid middlemen. Does Boko Haram do the same? Who is to say that like armored vehicles, rifles and other munitions, any helicopters purchased will not be captured/transferred to Boko Haram.

If Nigeria's military is anything  like it has cost enough money to be, the country should not have to go shopping for weapons to defeat the Boko Haram insurgency. Nigeria has her security services of professional soldiers. Boko Haram has anomalous fighters many of whom are ignorant faith devotees. Should Nigeria not be winning the war as the insurgency has become one dares to ask? If the report below is true, Obama might have done Nigeria a favor. Should the Obama position not have been foreseeable? The failure to acquire helicopters from Israel cannot be the reason for Nigeria's security services inability to be a better fighting force.

 

oa    

 

From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com [mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Okechukwu Ukaga
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 1:35 PM
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Fwd: NigerianID | Exposed: How Obama blocked Israeli sale of attack helicopters to Nigeria

 

So what? By now, Nigeria should be producing her own helicopters and other military and civilian necessities rather than depending on Israel (established after Nigeria) or other countries with more patriotic and effective leaders. Instead of blaming others, we should acknowledge that most of Nigeria's problems are self-inflicted. To avoid these kinds of problem in the future, current leaders/looters should make necessary changes in thinking, planning, actions, and lifestyle.     

 

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Oluwatoyin Adepoju <oluifayantra@gmail.com> wrote:

 

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Date: Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 4:31 PM
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Washington blocked the transaction due to concerns that the Nigerian government was not doing enough to avoid civilian c...

 

 

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