Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: Lola Shoneyin's False Testament

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Mr Cornelius Hamelberg,

I swear on the Holy Bible and every other thing or divinity that you
and Salimonu Kadiri believe in. So, what next? Why are you not asking
Salimonu Kadiri to simply tender evidence of his claim or substantiate
it in any way he deems fit as far as it is to the satisfaction of the
decent people here on this listserv? Or are we to allow a lying
bastard attempt to ruin people's reputation without calling him out?

Now, I'm not sure what you mean when you ask if I have the truth in my
possession. Should I have the truth of an accusation against me that
is a figment of an idiot's imagination in my possession? In what form
should I present this truth, if I may ask? If I come here and say Mr
Cornelius Hamelberg is an employee of the Rivers State Government who
works very closely with Rotimi Amaechi and that he is saying what he
is saying here in defence of Buhari, because of this relationship,
should we expect Mr Hamelbeg to produce some truth in his possession
to show he is not an employee of Rivers State Government or a friend
or close associate of Amaechi? Wouldn't the right thing be to expect
me to produce evidence of my claim since the basic rule is that he who
asserts must prove? So, please, let me know whatever truth and in what
form you want me to produce it over this matter. I am the one being
accused by a vermin and he should be the one interrogated about his
claim, not me.

Please, now that you have started your public probing, make sure to
conclude this fairly and justly. I don't know Salimonu Kadiri or
whatever he does or where he lives, but I know he is lying against me
for reasons I don't know. It's now in your hands. I trust you to get
to the bottom of this.





CHEERS AND STAY BLESSED





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On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Cornelius Hamelberg
<corneliushamelberg@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hon. Kennedy Emetulu,
> I prefer to know my song well before I start singing
>
> As this is a matter of public probity , I can only ask you, do you have the
> truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? And is that truth in your
> possession? Do you swear on the Holy Bible when you say this?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Cornelius
>
> We Sweden
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, 3 February 2015 13:33:38 UTC+1, keme...@googlemail.com wrote:
>>
>> …
>>
>>
>>
>> Cornelius Hamelberg,
>>
>>
>>
>> I do not think I have ever engaged you in a discussion on this forum,
>> possibly because apart from posting sparingly, I'm hardly here. In fact, I
>> did not see your response on my incoming email feed. It was IBK that posted
>> it on a Facebook group that both of us belong to and which necessitated that
>> I come to the USAAfricaDialogue listserv to read it for myself and make a
>> response.
>>
>>
>>
>> First, I thank you for your view. We are in a political season and the
>> beauty of democracy is that everyone has a voice. Those who refuse to
>> exercise theirs are their own worst enemies. We are lucky.
>>
>>
>>
>> Now, you accuse me of recycling lies and quoted my comment on Buhari and
>> the money stolen under his watch as Federal Commissioner for Petroleum to
>> buttress your point. You then seem to think the comment of someone here had
>> since settled the matter. This fellow you referenced is Salimonu Kadiri, who
>> apparently responded to my article "Buharists and their Stockholm Syndrome".
>> Here is how Salimonu Kadiri began his response to me (11/6/14):
>>
>>
>>
>> "Kennedy Emetulu is not a Jonathan-nist but a political mercenary
>> employed by Jonathan's Subsidy Re-investment Empowerment Program (SURE -P).
>> I will come to what that means later. Kennedy Emetulu would have justified
>> his SURE-P employment if he had supported his long epistle with facts
>> instead of innuendos. If I have to respond in full to his lengthy sermon
>> from SURE-P mountain, it would cover several hundred pages. Therefore, I
>> will just remove three blocks on which Emetulu has built the house of lies
>> on Buhari for the house to crumble".
>>
>>
>>
>> Now, let's think of that for a minute. A man I have never met in my life,
>> a man who knows nothing about me comes here in public space and states that
>> my public commentary, which I probably started before he got into diapers is
>> being motivated by a supposed employment with SURE-P or because I'm getting
>> some benefit from them. Then he grants himself the immunity of providing
>> proof for this absurd claim by saying if he had to provide some, "it would
>> cover several hundred pages". So, who is afraid of hundreds of pages of
>> proof for an allegation you've made in public? Shouldn't that have helped
>> all of us here understand who Kennedy Emetulu is? I mean, I wrote my piece
>> and didn't mention SURE-P and never revealed upfront for the purposes of
>> full disclosure that I work with them or that I'm a contractor with them or
>> that I benefit from them in any way. So, if someone comes up here and says
>> he knows about my relationship with SURE-P, what prevents the decent people
>> of this listserv from saying: "Hold on a minute, Salimonu, why not provide
>> the proof of the accusation you've made against Kennedy Emetulu?" Why did
>> nobody ask him to provide just any form of evidence of his claim?
>>
>>
>>
>> You see, I read a lot of cranks making all sorts of allegations against
>> me, but I'm never bothered and most times I totally ignore them. I'm not
>> bothered, because people who know me know me and I know myself. I don't know
>> anybody in SURE-P, I have never applied for anything in SURE-P on behalf of
>> myself or anyone else, I do not have any benefit from them directly or
>> indirectly, I'm not a government contractor and have never been, I don't get
>> paid by anybody directly or indirectly to say what I say. I speak publicly
>> out of belief and I can walk through the gates of hell defending whatever I
>> present as fact, while I accept that people can have a different opinion,
>> even if I don't agree with them. You do not expect me to come here and
>> respond to a desperate fool, a vermin who would manufacture a lie as bad as
>> this out of thin air in an attempt discredit someone he cannot challenge
>> with truth. I call out Salimonu Kadiri to come out here and provide evidence
>> of his claim. I call on him in the name of all that he truly believes in to
>> come out here and back up his claim or forever remain a caterwauling
>> creepy-crawly that he is! God will judge him for bearing false witness
>> against me.
>>
>>
>>
>> Now, with regard to the issue here, below is the portion of Salimonu
>> Kadiri's piece that you're saying settles the matter:
>>
>>
>>
>> "In his mud slinging essay against Buhari, Kennedy Emetulu asked, "Should
>> I start with the scandal of the N2.8 billion NNPC money that got stolen
>> under his watch as Petroleum Minister and head of NNPC in 1978? ... the
>> Shehu Shagari government ...set up a Senate probe which traced the money to
>> a London Midland Bank account belonging to Buhari from where the money again
>> got missing." For the mere fact that Emetulu is telling readers that N2.8
>> billion NNPC money got stolen under Buhari's watch exempted Buhari from the
>> actual stealing of the said amount of money. Secondly, Shehu Shagari's
>> government could not have set up a Senate probe because, according to the
>> Republican Constitution, there was separation of powers between the
>> Executive and the Legislature. While it was true that the Senate set up a
>> committee headed by Senator Olusola Saraki, the committee completed its
>> investigation in 1981 without any public or official report on their
>> findings. If the N2.8 billion NNPC money was traced to a London Midland Bank
>> account belonging to Buhari, then we need to know the number of the account
>> and for the money to disappear from the said bank, it should either be
>> withdrawn or transferred by someone. We are talking about London, England,
>> and not Nigeria where employed ghosts at all levels of government do
>> normally get promoted, sign and cash salaries in the banks undetected. If we
>> are to believe the tale by the moonlight being touted by Emetulu that the
>> motive behind the military coup of December 1983 was to obstruct or destroy
>> documents pertaining to the N2.8 billion NNPC money, why should they wait
>> until two years after the investigation had been completed? There is no
>> sense in the story".
>>
>>
>>
>> Mr Hamelberg, okay, ask yourself, does the above really look like a proper
>> response to my accusation against Buhari? What has Salimonu Kadiri said in
>> the above excerpt to debunk me? How can a man of such extraordinary
>> ignorance convince you that "Shehu Shagari's government could not have set
>> up a Senate probe because, according to the Republican Constitution, there
>> was separation of powers between the Executive and the Legislature"? Is this
>> the type of pedantic argument real adults or reasonably educated people
>> should be having here or elsewhere? Was the Senate of the Second Republic
>> not a part of the Shagari government of the Second Republic? Did I not
>> indicate clearly there the branch of the government that set up the probe? I
>> mean, the funny Mr Kadiri actually admitted that "the Senate set up a
>> committee headed by Senator Olusola Saraki" but that "the committee
>> completed its investigation in 1981 without any public or official report on
>> their findings". So, where is the argument? Did you yourself read my piece
>> and the things I said? Did Salimonu Kadiri dispute what Dr Saraki told Vera
>> Ifudu? Did he dispute the fact that the NTA under the Buhari regime sacked
>> Vera Ifudu over this affair and that she went to court and got a huge payout
>> just to shut her mouth? Did Buhari not send soldiers on coup day to go
>> ransack the Senate building? Does all that indicate that Buhari is above
>> board in this matter?
>>
>>
>>
>> Now, let me also bring something to your attention: Sometime ago, my good
>> friend and brother, Professor Moses Ochonu had an exchange with me on
>> Facebook and by way of clarifying this issue, he said the following:
>>
>>
>>
>> "In 1977, the military head of state, Lt. Gen. Olusegun Obasanjo, set up a
>> crude oil sales tribunal to investigate the operations of the Nigerian
>> National Oil Company (NNOC, which metamorphosed into NNPC same year). The
>> tribunal found out that in three years, NNOC had failed to collect its
>> equity share of oil produced by Shell, Mobil and Gulf. As a joint venture
>> partner, NNOC was entitled to 182.95 million barrels of oil production. But
>> NNOC did not find buyers for its own share, thereby losing a potential
>> income of $2.8 billion. But it was instead reported by the media that $2.8
>> billion was missing." – (Quoted from Moses Ochonu's post in the exchange)
>>
>>
>>
>> Here was my response:
>>
>>
>>
>> "Agreed that the Nigerian political space is swarming with historical
>> rumors of all types; but, please, do not declare the N2.8 billion issue a
>> mere rumor and then substitute it with another manufactured rumor without
>> applying due diligence and looking at it logically. I say this, because you
>> are one of the most credible public intellectuals we have from Nigeria and
>> one of the most dependable commentators on national affairs. I say this,
>> because I can bet my bottom dollar that if you had taken the pains to look
>> more closely at the issue, you wouldn't publicly declare it one of the
>> "enduring rumors and urban legends in Nigerian politics and
>> history…mischievously recycled every now and then to discredit General
>> Buhari, who has been running for president since 2003, because he was the
>> Petroleum minister when the money allegedly went missing".
>>
>>
>>
>> "First, the thing you've stated here as the truth is not backed up by any
>> contemporaneous report, quite apart from the fact that the claim is totally
>> illogical. I mean, from 1974, which was the height of the oil boom, Nigeria
>> could not sell its share for three years? They could not find buyers at a
>> time Nigeria engaged in some of the most grandiose capital intensive
>> projects of the time, that is at a time Gowon was proclaiming that we have
>> too much money and that our problem was how to spend it? So, what money were
>> we spending all that while? Who were the members of this crude oil sales
>> tribunal? Where is this report? Where did they sit and what at the time
>> linked their report, if any, with the N2.8 billion issue? The honest truth
>> is any person who has a basic idea of how the oil market works will not buy
>> such embarrassingly childish explanation! It is obvious that this is a
>> latter-day manufactured explanation to get Buhari out of the pickle!
>>
>>
>>
>> "Secondly, the Irikefe report which claimed no money was lost did not
>> produce this explanation neither did the Saraki Senate report. In fact,
>> Obasanjo had to quickly go to court to obtain an order to stop his
>> appearance before the Irikefe Panel. If he or any member of his government,
>> including Buhari had any logical explanation or even the above explanation
>> you are tendering here, why didn't they go to the Panel to explain this?
>> What you are quoting here as the truth is actually something plucked from
>> thin air by Simon Kolawole of ThisDay in his June 1 2014 column of the
>> paper. Kolawole is someone who is unapologetically a Buhari acolyte. His
>> claim is not backed up anywhere on record or in public space. It is one of
>> those historical rewrites that a lot of them have today invested in on
>> behalf of Buhari in this whole mission of selling him to unsuspecting and
>> uninformed Nigerians as incorruptible. It will not work!
>>
>>
>> ...
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