RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Between the APC and the PDC: Living with the illusion of change

Whips and lashes have remain after political independence and roads are not being built. Is this change for the better?

Who is to say that independent Nigeria's leaders have not robbed Nigeria of more of her wealth, been responsible for the avoidable death and suffering of more Nigerians, brought Nigeria into more disrepute as a country in the last thirty years, than Great Britain did in over sixty years of colonization of Nigeria?

 

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From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com [mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bode
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 4:34 PM
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Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Between the APC and the PDC: Living with the illusion of change

 

Oga: I recommend Aimé Césaire's 1950 classic: Discourse on Colonialism: It is not that roads were built etc. It is that those roads did not have to be built with whips and lashes. Cultural and technological exchanges did not have to happen under relations of domination and superiority.

 

 

On 4/2/15, 4:34 PM, "Folu Ogundimu" <ogundimu3@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Prof. S.O: 

 

Thank you for your brief education of our clueless brothers and sisters who do not know their substantive history of colonialism. Let them keep pinning for the return of the evil colonialists. If the British were still in charge of Nigeria, I wonder how many of our people would have seen the inside of a university by now? Or how many of our people would have found a bush path out of their villages to sniff the air of modernity. 

 

The shiny edifice of the European metropolis has its tap root in the loot of Africa and Asia. Any so-called learned person who does not know that needs a re-education about the viciousness of the colonial enterprise. If we do not have fools for the most part as leaders since independence, we should have made a much bigger deal of having the European colonists pay stiff reparations with interest, not ask for unsustainable aid, loans, and debt relief programs. 

 

To properly re-educate and re-orient our people, we need massive programs of education in the history of colonialism as well as civic lessons on how to recover our self dignity as Africans and black people. 

 

F.

 

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Segun Ogungbemi <seguno2013@gmail.com> wrote:

 "Nigeria was quite honestly better off under white rule; that is exactly what our black rulers have proven to their eternal shame."
Ikhide, you are absolutely wrong. The British looted our resources to develop their country. Tell me how many miles of roads, hospitals, dispensaries, schools etc did they build before independence? How many jobs did they create for our people?
They forced our people to pay taxes and those who could not pay were put in local confinement. They introduced divide and rule to cause disunity and harmony among the people. That legacy of divide and rule is still our yoke of burden. Colonialism is perpetually evil. It violates the rights of individuals and   takes away human dignity and pride. It takes away the identity of the people colonized.
With Nigerians being in charge of their destiny we are better off today than what we had been before independence. We have freedom and we govern ourselves using the so called democracy which was not alien to our forebears.
 It is true that we have bad leaders but the British have had their worse leaders in the past and with time  they improved their instruments of governance.
Ours is not a history of accident in isolation. Gradually we will get there. The first step is to get the leadership right and the rest will follow.
We must change the negative orientation of Ikhide and his group of intellectual bigots who see nothing good in their country.

Prof. Segun Ogungbemi

> On Apr 1, 2015, at 9:39 AM, "'Ikhide' via USA Africa Dialogue Series" <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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> Nigeria was quite honestly better off under white rule; that is exactly what our black rulers have proven to their eternal shame

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