Leye:
Let's wait for the appealwhich I hope the MTA will launch within the
30 day window,
What is the point of the petition when Dr Abraham Ariyo
has already denied being the author of the hate messages that were
falsely attributed to him?
Why flog a dead horse when Dr Ariyo has informed the whole wide world
that his computer and Facebook account were hacked and the hackers
deliberately posted false messages using his account?
What would be left for the Public Hearing to decide when the alleged author
has denied authorship of the contentious words and when many of the aggrieved have decided
to move on?
Even if the hearing were held and Dr Ariyo is vindicated do you expect that such vindification
would satisfy those who would not let the matter rest?
Again what are you and others trying to prove with the petition should in case I have missed a more compelling case
for the petition?
Bye,
Ola
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Dr. Ola Kassim, (1) The US Supreme Court has already ruled on Protected Speech and the ruling did not differ from Justice Koetl's--that will come up in its own time. Anyway, let's see if MTA will appeal--that's why it was given 30 days to decide. (2) Have you signed the petition? Methinks the BEST way to settle this is in (a) the TMB (b) the Courts. So if these guys are REALLY aggrieved, what is keeping them from seeking justice through laid down channels? That, to me, is the issue, NOW. Can you try to convince them to go through the laid down rules? Leye Ige -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 4/22/15, olakassimmd via AfricanWorldForum <africanworldforum@googlegroups.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Re: Adeniran Abraham Ariyo: Come to terms with what you wrote against Igbos - understood or misunderstood. To: africanworldforum@googlegroups.com, NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com Cc: okonkwonetworks@googlegroups.com, edo-nationality@yahoogroups.com, egbeodua@yahoogroups.com, egbeomoobokun-NA@yahoogroups.com, egbeomoyorubaindiana@yahoo.com, naijaobserver@yahoogroups.com, NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com, nigerianid@yahoo.com, talknigeria@yahoogroups.com, nigeria360@yahoogroups.com, USAAfricaDialogue@googlegroups.com, kenyaonline@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, April 22, 2015, 10:54 PM Dear Leye: The ruling by Justice Koetl is not only against the US constitution, it also defies common sense. It would likely be turned down by an appellate court and if not by the Supreme court. If this kind of provocative advertisement is allowed in the guise of free speech, this would also render illegal the arrests and interrogation of potential terrorists in the USA based on the threatening opinions that they have published in social media or asserted during private phone calls or in interviews with journalists. Bye, Ola ---- Original Message ---- From: 'Leye Ige' via AfricanWorldForum <africanworldforum@googlegroups.com> To: africanworldforum <africanworldforum@googlegroups.com>; NIgerianWorldForum <NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com> Cc: okonkwonetworks <okonkwonetworks@googlegroups.com>; edo-nationality <edo-nationality@yahoogroups.com>; egbeodua <egbeodua@yahoogroups.com>; egbeomoobokun-NA <egbeomoobokun-NA@yahoogroups.com>; egbeomoyorubaindiana <egbeomoyorubaindiana@yahoo.com>; naijaobserver <naijaobserver@yahoogroups.com>; NaijaPolitics <NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com>; nigerianid <nigerianid@yahoo.com>; talknigeria <talknigeria@yahoogroups.com>; nigeria360 <nigeria360@yahoogroups.com>; USAAfricaDialogue <USAAfricaDialogue@googlegroups.com>; kenyaonline <kenyaonline@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wed, Apr 22, 2015 10:28 pm Subject: [africanworldforum] Re: Adeniran Abraham Ariyo: Come to terms with what you wrote against Igbos - understood or misunderstood. ATTN: Dr. Ola Kassim, Petition: https://www.change.org/p/texas-medical-board-public-hearing-on-dr-adeniran-ariyo FYI: "A federal judge on Tuesday ordered the Metropolitan Transportation Authority to display on its buses a controversial ad that refers to Muslims killing Jews, rejecting the argument that the ad could incite terrorism or imminent violence. The ad portrays a menacing man wearing a scarf around his head and face, includes a quotation "Killing Jews is Worship that draws us close to Allah" attributed to "Hamas MTV," and then states, "That's His Jihad. What's yours?" Koeltl said he was "sensitive" to the security concerns, but noted that the MTA and Chairman Thomas Prendergast "underestimate the tolerant quality of New Yorkers and overestimate the potential impact of these fleeting advertisements. It strains credulity to believe that New Yorkers would be incited to violence by ads that did not incite residents of Chicago and San Francisco." MTA buses and subways are often forums for policy debates. The agency has accepted other ads from the American Freedom Defense Initiative, which is characterized as an anti-Muslim group by the Southern Poverty Law Center. Koeltl delayed enforcing his preliminary injunction by 30 days so the MTA could decide whether to appeal. Adam Lisberg, an MTA spokesman, said: "We are disappointed in the ruling and are reviewing our options." The ad includes a disclaimer that its display does not imply an MTA endorsement. The MTA said the ad did not meet standards it adopted in 2012 after a judge, in another lawsuit by the American Freedom Defense Initiative, said its earlier ban on ads that demeaned people based on race or religion violated the First Amendment. U.S. District Judge John Koeltl said the ad was protected speech under the First Amendment of the Constitution." REUTERS Leye Ige -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 4/22/15, olakassimmd via AfricanWorldForum <africanworldforum@googlegroups.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Adeniran Abraham Ariyo: Come to terms with what you wrote against Igbos - understood or misunderstood. To: africanworldforum@googlegroups.com, NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com Cc: okonkwonetworks@googlegroups.com, edo-nationality@yahoogroups.com, egbeodua@yahoogroups.com, egbeomoobokun-NA@yahoogroups.com, egbeomoyorubaindiana@yahoo.com, naijaobserver@yahoogroups.com, NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com, nigerianid@yahoo.com, talknigeria@yahoogroups.com, nigeria360@yahoogroups.com, USAAfricaDialogue@googlegroups.com, kenyaonline@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, April 22, 2015, 7:26 PM Quote: from the message below: "So Mr. Ariyo, we can all be reasonable and it boils down to a simple point: What did you admittedly write? Ola Kassim indicates hate speech is protected. Yes, people are not constitutionally bound to love others."--Ms Joe unquote Dear All: As the bolded sentence attributed to me in the above quote does not accurately reflect the entire intent of my message, I wish to restate in full the referenced sentence in my original response to Leye Ige: I wrote as follows: Quote: "Hate speech is not protected under the U.S. Constitution in instances where the hate speech has the potential to provoke or encourage others to cause injury, both emotional and physical to or death of the victims of such speech."--Ola Kassim unQuote I am fully aware that "Hate Speech" is protected in the USA to the extent that such speech does not incite others to hurt fellow human beings, both emotionally and or physically or to kill them. This is the reason homeland security has been arresting home grown "lone wolf" terrorists in the USA based on their utterances on Facebook, twitter and other media before they have the time to actualize their murderous intentions, I am issuing this clarification so no one throws it in my face that I endorsed hate speech in the near or distant future. Why such hateful speeches and propaganda are condoned in the USA (under the guise of freedom of speech) can only be ascribed to some of the peculiarities of the laws of the USA. Hate Speech is illegal in Canada regardless of whether it causes harm or it does not. Bye, Ola ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Leye: Hate speech is not protected under the U.S. Constitution in instances where the hate speech has the potential to provoke or encourage others to cause injury, both emotional and physical to or death of the victims of such speech. It is also not protected under Canadian and international laws. This is the reason why the Hutu leaders who provoked the violence that culminated in the Rwandan genocide could be successfully prosecuted and jailed at The Hague even though there was no single evidence that any one of the accused either carried a machete or personally physically hurt any one of the victims. Let us tone down the rhetoric! Bye, Ola ---- Original Message ---- From: msjoe21st via AfricanWorldForum <africanworldforum@googlegroups.com> To: NIgerianWorldForum <NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com> Cc: africanworldforum <africanworldforum@googlegroups.com>; okonkwonetworks <okonkwonetworks@googlegroups.com>; edo-nationality <edo-nationality@yahoogroups.com>; egbeodua <egbeodua@yahoogroups.com>; egbeomoobokun-NA <egbeomoobokun-NA@yahoogroups.com>; egbeomoyorubaindiana <egbeomoyorubaindiana@yahoo.com>; naijaobserver <naijaobserver@yahoogroups.com>; NaijaPolitics <NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com>; nigerianid <nigerianid@yahoo.com>; talknigeria <talknigeria@yahoogroups.com>; nigeria360 <nigeria360@yahoogroups.com>; USAAfricaDialogue <USAAfricaDialogue@googlegroups.com>; kenyaonline <kenyaonline@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wed, Apr 22, 2015 6:55 pm Subject: [africanworldforum] Adeniran Abraham Ariyo: Come to terms with what you wrote against Igbos - understood or misunderstood. Greetings Mr. Adeniran Abraham Ariyo: Partisan acrimonies characterized the Nigerian elections with "protagonists and antagonists." No big deal in the season. So why do you think the Igbos have time for whatever your political affinities, which you are entitled to express? The issue is what should not be condoned in any civilized setting because it erodes the fabric of decency, which binds humanity even when people differ in orientations and arguments. Let us go with a grain of salt and assume the exchanges attributed to you were fabricated. If you are genuine and serious, where can people read what you admittedly wrote in order to arrive at their conclusions? To other sensible persons, it is difficult to understand how you are misunderstood, what is taken out of context, and misconstrued, when you deny what is attributed to you, admit you wrote stuff at the heat of the exchanges but you cannot explain what you wrote. In light of the fact that Africa is soaked with blood spilled based on ethnic bigotry, you may understand that the mindsets reflected in these exchanges constitute an evil lurking in society. Its hibernation, where and when it manifests only needs a misguided outlet or ruse. Dr. Adeniran Ariyo is a cardiologist in Dallas, Texas and is affiliated with Dallas Regional Medical Center. Dear doctor, it is very interesting that you have time on your hands to express yourself on Facebook /social media on matters that have no connection to the nature of your job, take partisan jabs, but think it makes sense to mention your 3 hours of sleep in 48 hours. I guess you are mature enough to strike a fine balance between earning a living and your extra-professional chats in the social media. Not withstanding your sleep deprivation, the contextual point is whether you explicitly or implicitly echoed or supported tendencie s a nd errant utterances that may result in harm befalling the Igbos as a target population. Noting your friendships with some Igbos in your classes, how you ate and partied along, conducted academic presentations could be therapeutic or useful to you when accused of ethnic-oriented malaise. But does it diminish the gravity of the accusation; neither would it rationalize your culpability if you wrote what is offensive based on ethnicity. Injecting the names of people - Agwunobi, Obi Emerole etc. as your exculpatory evidence in this sordid matter is too self-serving and unethical. Surely, the expediencies you engaged in are not synonymous with the anthology of medicine for the benefit of Nigerians, babies or humanity. Therefore, the drop of names and associated positions in government or the world of academia and medicine digress from your own accountability on what you specifically wrote, which is deemed offensive to others, even if you think your views were misconstrued. Please stay on point. Why? Even Jim Crow adherents in the South had some black friends. Before that, slave owners did more like having children with their slaves while brutalizing the target population. Ethnic violence is not necessarily committed by those who profess to hate the country. The Oba of Lagos would tell you he loves Nigeria, too, while singling out Igbos for his political debauchery. You say you come from a monarchial family. Very well, sir. But if we all start writing about family backgrounds to explain away irresponsibility for our actions, the social sphere would be populated by more opportunistic rascals than reasonable people. So Mr. Ariyo, we can all be reasonable and it boils down to a simple point: What did you admittedly write? Ola Kassim indicates hate speech is protected. Yes, people are not constitutionally bound to love others. You admitted to defending/supporting the Oba of Lagos, Rilwanu Akiolu, at the time when he predicted that perishing inside the Lagoon is a destination for Igbos who are non-compliant: those who would not vote for the APC gubernatorial candidate. The APC distanced itself from the Oba's murderous idea, which violates Section 42 of the Constitution that prohibits discrimination on grounds of ethnicity, religion, political opinion, creed or sex. Human rights lawyer, Femi Falana, called for the Oba of Lagos to apologize to the Igbos "without delay." Can anyone go to your Facebook page and read where you condemned the barbaric tactics? If not, it can be safely assumed that you forgot where your best man comes from, all the Igbo people you named in your write-up, and the value of coming together as "One Nigeria," which you organized around Boston. Waow, the selective amnesia and lack of conscience in imagine brandishing can make Machiavellian enthusiasts blush with envy. Sir, talk of misconstruing meaning, it would be clear to an elementary school pupil that you are deliberately misconstruing ethnic-based threats by disseminating a false premise. It was never about Akiolu having a political opinion; even birds do. It was about his diabolic aim at the Igbos in Lagos. Please do not take refuge in democratic allowances in order to disguise and promote a latent intent. You posted, on your Facebook page, an article written by Segun Adebowale with the headline: Polls: Yoruba interest group, COSEG, backs Oba Akiolu. The main thrust reads "The coalition stated that as custodian of custom and tradition of his people, Oba Akiolu cannot be faulted for supporting a candidate he knows very well and can vouch for unlike an unknown candidate who has consistently maintained his support for the people of the Niger Delta and played the ethnic cards owing to his desperation for power." T he above is an ordinary and pedestrian opinion that can be fanned by partisans of all stripes during campaigns. It does not raise an eyebrow. A greed, Akiolu, area boys, touts, pastors and all enjoy the right to advocate for their candidates. The ensuing outcry was about his doomsday wish for Igbos who do not vote his way; not his civic or traditional prerogatives. C'mon now, who is kidding who with your "true statement." With due respect, what you elaborated on is irrelevant when it did not address the specific accusation. For examples: 1) Pouring your beliefs on Faceboook is not incidental to services to the Association of the Nigerian Physicians in The Americas. 2) To the extent that the crux of the matter requires socio-emotional intelligence and civilized comportment, which regulate behaviors in heated disagreements, your time as a research fellow at Harvard Medical School's Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston, Massachusetts and simultaneous enrollment for Master degree at the Harvard School of Public Health, did not address what begins with home-training. By the time people go through adolescence, certain profound behavioral tendencies, regardless of the level of formal education, are already formed. The ability to recognize a lapse in judgement and apologize go a long way to heal rifts or rancor. It takes an honest soul. However, if you are unwilling to be specific, prefer spinning, and clouding the issues with your biography, it is your evasive right. It may be helpful for you to assume that you are not writing to an impressionable and unsophisticated public where all readers do not understand the context of writing, connotations, and audience consideration. Respectfully, MsJoe To Lead You Must be a Servant -----Original Message----- From: Tajudeen traji@aol.com [NIgerianWorldForum] <NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com> To: NIgerianWorldForum <NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com> Cc: africanworldforum <africanworldforum@googlegroups.com>; okonkwonetworks <okonkwonetworks@googlegroups.com>; edo-nationality <edo-nationality@yahoogroups.com>; egbeodua <egbeodua@yahoogroups.com>; egbeomoobokun-NA <egbeomoobokun-NA@yahoogroups.com>; egbeomoyorubaindiana <egbeomoyorubaindiana@yahoo.com>; naijaobserver <naijaobserver@yahoogroups.com>; NaijaPolitics <NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com>; omo oodua <omoodua@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wed, Apr 22, 2015 5:11 am Subject: Re: [NIgerianWorldForum] Re: Texas Based Doctor Calls for Igbo Massacre, Goes into Hiding 2015 My attention has been drawn to the news circulating in the social media attributed to me captioned " U.S. based Nigerian Calls for the Killings of the Igbos". This story is categorically FALSE. It was generated by computer fabricators, manipulated and bandaged to create havoc. Our investigations indicate that this horrible story was cooked, seasoned and delivered to get back at me for my sympathy for the Oba of Lagos during the recently concluded, highly contested Lagos State gubernatorial election. At the peak of the debate, there were heated exchanges and at the heat of the moment, statements were made from both sides that could be misconstrued. The subsequent distortion by these sophisticated fabricators is causing significant injustice to us all. To all the people affected by the original debate or subsequent computer distortions, I hereby apologize. No matter what, these stories are offensive and highly regrettable. I condemn these computer fabricators in their entirety. I further condemn any killings or any acts of violence anywhere, be it South Africa or Lagos. Humanity will judge these people harshly. I work every day to save people's lives from heart attacks. I am writing this letter with only 3 hours of sleep in the past 48 hours due to the nature of my work and the barrage of death threats on me and my family. I am Yoruba, but I have worked closely with Igbos all my life without any problem. It came as a shock to me and my Igbo colleagues, that I was being labeled as an Igbo hater. Indeed, I appreciate the confidence and support that I have received from my friends and well wishers that know me from around the world. I thank you for the support and your continued prayers in face of this unwarranted and relentless attack created by this false story. My only true statement regarding the Oba of Lagos was taken out of context on completely unrelated issue and bandaged together to create this horrendous story. To prove that I am no Igbo hater, but in fact, I am my brother's keeper, I will take you through an improbable journey of a young Nigerian boy from a small town to the world's pinnacle of academic medicine. I will highlight the practical examples of my close relationships with some of my Igbo colleagues all along the way. At the Univeristy of Ibadan, the first Nigerian University, I received the best medical education that could be obtained under the sun. My teachers were Yoruba, Igbos, Hausa, and Fulani. During our training, we were tribal free. I am currently working with an old U.I colleague, who is a U.S. based Cardiologist, and an Igbo, Dr. Obi Emerole as we put together the First Lagos Cardiovascular Symposium this summer in Ikeja, Lagos. At Howard University Hospital, where I trained as a medical resident and chief resident, my Igbo friends were Dr. John Agwunobi and Dr. Ahagtotu. Dr. Agwunobi later became the secretary of health to Governor Jeb Bush in Florida, and, Dr. Ahaghotu is now the head of Urology and Associate Dean at the Institution. We were all interns, bound together as Nigerians, without tribal affiliations. We ate together, were on call together, and partied together on Saturday nights whenever we had time. In 1995, I was a research fellow at Harvard Medical School's Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston, Massachusetts, where I was simultaneously enrolled for Master degree at the Harvard School of Public Health. I reached out to all the Nigerians in the Boston area institutions and we had regular meetings as "one Nigeria." It was that year in Boston that I actually met Professor Wole Soyinka and the late Professor Chinua Achebe. At the Johns Hopkins Hospital, regarded as the number one hospital in the United States, I was an Interventional Cardiology fellow. My immediate senior colleague, Dr. Camellus Ezeagwu was Igbo. I went to his house quite often for some "Fufu and goat meat" that his beautiful wife regularly prepared for us. The best man at my wedding was an Igbo man. Our families enjoy time together and vacation together. I have served in various capacities under the umbrella of the Association of the Nigerian Physicians in The Americas (ANPA). I was humbled to be the keynote speaker at the recent end of the year event. I have also served in our communities and churches encouraging our youth to pursue a carrier in medicine. I have served as head, chairman, director, and secretary in various capacities in different Nigerian organizations that included Yorubas and Igbos for the past 30 years, and not once has anyone said that I hate one group or the other. I currently serve as mentor for lots of young Nigerian doctors. I help them get into residency and fellowship around the country (Yorubas and Igbos alike). As we speak, I have several Yorubas and Igbos students rotating under my service at the hospital. Nigeria is my country and I am proud of her. She gave me a lot and I intend to continue to give back. I will not let some people create a wedge between me and this country that I love. I believe my only sin was the support that I gave to the Oba of Lagos. As a son of a monarch myself, I have utmost respect for our native rulers. Thus, the position that I took during the debate leading to the highly spirited Lagos State gubernatorial election might have offended some people. For me, this is a lot of price to pay when I am not even a politician. It also shows how far people will go for payback. But, please, this is not a game for me. I have my plate full in USA. I would rather use this time to save lives and improve the health of people, or increase the chances of other Nigerian kids getting to where I am today rather than responding to false stories designed to get back at me for my different political position. At the time that I am writing this missive, I have received over 500 telephone calls that are mostly death threats. Please let us calm down and work together for peace. I hope my story clears some ambiguities regarding this unfortunate computer manipulated and generated story. Although, it hurts a lot, I will forgive them (the fabricators). We want every Nigerian to live in peace and harmony. We seek a more tolerant Nigeria, a vibrant Nigeria where there is freedom and liberty, where no one is inferior or superior to the other. We need to band together and start building our nation towards prosperity and a brighter future as we move forward to a more perfect Nigeria. God bless Nigeria. God bless us all. Abraham Ariyo Sent from my iPhone On Apr 21, 2015, at 10:59 PM, Leye Ige ige.leye@yahoo.com [NIgerianWorldForum] < NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com> wrote: From DAWODU.COM "My attention has been drawn to the news circulating in the social media attributed to me captioned " U.S. based Nigerian Calls for the Killings of the Igbos". This story is categorically FALSE. It was generated by computer fabricators, manipulated and bandaged to create havoc. Our investigations indicate that this horrible story was cooked, seasoned and delivered to get back at me for my sympathy for the Oba of Lagos during the recently concluded, highly contested Lagos State gubernatorial election. At the peak of the debate, there were heated exchanges and at the heat of the moment, statements were made from both sides that could be misconstrued. The subsequent distortion by these sophisticated fabricators is causing significant injustice to us all."----Dr. Ariyo -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 4/21/15, 'Leye Ige' via AfricanWorldForum < africanworldforum@googlegroups.com> wrote: Subject: [africanworldforum] Re: Texas Based Doctor Calls for Igbo Massacre, Goes into Hiding To: africanworldforum@googlegroups.com Cc: " okonkwonetworks@googlegroups.com" < okonkwonetworks@googlegroups.com>, " edo-nationality@yahoogroups.com" < edo-nationality@yahoogroups.com>, " egbeodua@yahoogroups.com" < egbeodua@yahoogroups.com>, " egbeomoobokun-NA@yahoogroups.com" < egbeomoobokun-NA@yahoogroups.com>, " egbeomoyorubaindiana@yahoo.com" < egbeomoyorubaindiana@yahoo.com>, "naijaobserver" < naijaobserver@yahoogroups.com>, " NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com" < NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com>, " NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com" < NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com>, "omo oodua" < omoodua@yahoogroups.com> Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2015, 3:07 PM Dr. Ola Kassim, This is not about "hate speech". It is protected. The best way to "tone down the rhetoric" is to demand for a PUBLIC INQUIRY/HEARING where BOTH sides will state their case so we may have JUSTICE done. That is all. Leye Ige -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 4/21/15, 'Ola Kassim' via AfricanWorldForum < africanworldforum@googlegroups.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Re: Texas Based Doctor Calls for Igbo Massacre, Goes into Hiding To: " africanworldforum@googlegroups.com" < africanworldforum@googlegroups.com> Cc: " okonkwonetworks@googlegroups.com" < okonkwonetworks@googlegroups.com>, " edo-nationality@yahoogroups.com" < edo-nationality@yahoogroups.com>, " egbeodua@yahoogroups.com" < egbeodua@yahoogroups.com>, " egbeomoobokun-NA@yahoogroups.com" < egbeomoobokun-NA@yahoogroups.com>, " egbeomoyorubaindiana@yahoo.com" < egbeomoyorubaindiana@yahoo.com>, "naijaobserver" < naijaobserver@yahoogroups.com>, " NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com" < NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com>, " NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com" < NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com>, "omo oodua" < omoodua@yahoogroups.com> Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2015, 3:00 PM Dear Leye: Hate speech is not protected under the U.S. Constitution in instances where the hate speech has the potential to provoke or encourage others to cause injury, both emotional and physical to or death of the victims of such speech. It is also not protected under Canadian and international laws. This is the reason why the Hutu leaders who provoked the violence that culminated in the Rwandan genocide could be successfully prosecuted and jailed at The Hague even though there was no single evidence that any one of the accused either carried a machete or personally physically hurt any one of the victims. Let us tone down the rhetoric! Bye, Ola Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 21, 2015, at 2:17 PM, 'Leye Ige' via AfricanWorldForum < africanworldforum@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Dr, Ola Kassim, > Dr. Ariyo NEED NOT and MUST NOT apologize for his views--they are PROTECTED SPEECH. The allegations and accusations against him MUST be CONTESTED. The Texas Medical Board as well as Attorney General MUST listen to BOTH sides. That is the ONLY FAIR road to JUSTICE. > Leye Ige > -------------------------------------------- > On Tue, 4/21/15, 'Ola Kassim' via AfricanWorldForum < africanworldforum@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Subject: [africanworldforum] Re: Texas Based Doctor Calls for Igbo Massacre, Goes into Hiding > To: " africanworldforum@googlegroups.com" < africanworldforum@googlegroups.com>, " okonkwonetworks@googlegroups.com" < okonkwonetworks@googlegroups.com> > Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2015, 12:23 PM > > Dear > All: > > > > > > As a senior medical colleague and > fellow Nigerian, I am extremely disappointed by the > > xenophobic views expressed by Dr Abraham Ariyo on social > media-- > > specifically on his Facebook page. > > > > He has shown a total lack of judgement for a man with the > privileges > > accorded to members of his profession by society in > general. > > > > Dr Ariyo undoubtedly faces some tough times ahead regarding > the Texas Medical Board > > investigation that would eventually ensue following the > complaints that will be made > > against him by those aggrieved by his > utterances. > Regardless, I would not want Dr > Ariyo to lose his licence to practise Medicine over this > unfortunate incident.This is > the reason Dr Ariyo must find away of assuaging those whose > feelings he has hurt by his > vituperations. > Dr Ariyo owes the Igbo and other > Nigerians an unreserved > apology. > Likewise, those who are > organizing online protests to have Dr Ariyo disciplined by > the Texas Medical Board should shield their swords as soon > as Dr Ariyo tenders his > apology. > As long as Dr Ariyo does not > already have previous complaints of this nature against him > at the Texas Medical Board it is most likely that the most > serious penalty he would receive after years of > investigating the > complaints will be a Warning and a Reprimand on his > professional record. It is unlikely that he would be > stricken off thee Medical Register for this gross Misconduct > as a first time offender. > > The South African youths who have been slaughtering and > setting > > foreigners on fire with burning tire necklaces > are too ignorant to tell who > > is Nigerian from who is > > Zimbabwean, Ghanaian, Malawian or Ethiopian not to mention > bothering to know > > that if they are Nigerian whether or not they are Igbo. > > > > There are tens of thousands of young Nigerians amongst the > expatriate > > African population in major SA cities such as Jo'Burg, > Cape Town, Pretoria and Durban. > > The Nigerian population in SA is a diverse > group--representing mostly the Igbo, Yoruba, > > Edo and others from the Middle belt, the SS and the North. > Hence when SA rioters maim > > and kill African foreigners, the chances are that their > anger is directed at all Africans > > whom they believe are robbing them of their livelihood not > just Nigerians, Igbo, Yoruba and other > > ethnic groups. > > > > > Bye, > > > > Ola > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---- Original Message > ---- > > > From: publisher < publisher@elombah.com> > > > To: olakassimmd < olakassimmd@aol.com> > > > Sent: Mon, Apr 20, 2015 7:19 pm > > > Subject: Texas Based Doctor Calls for Igbo Massacre, Goes > into Hiding > > > > > > > > > > > Texas Based Doctor Calls for > Igbo Massacre, Goes into > Hiding > < http://elombah.com/detail.php?world=31895> > > Dr. Adeniran Abraham > Ariyo MD called for the massacre of Igbos in > Nigeria the way Nigerians are > being killed in South Af... > > Chibok Girls not Reason Jonathan Lost to Buhari - > MURIC to Okupe > < http://elombah.com/detail.php?world=31898> > > Mr. Doyin Okupe > yesterday attributed the defeat of President Goodluck > Ebele Jonathan to his > failure to rescue the Chibok... > > Dr Angela Uwakwem, MD FMC Owerri, Looter and > goddess of Corruption > < http://elombah.com/detail.php?world=31902> > > When in > 2006, Dr (Mrs) Angela Uwakwem, a Chief Consultant > Ophthalmologist displaced the > then Federal Medical Centre (FMC... > > -- > Every Nigerian that has something > important to say, says it on > www.elombah.com > > Follow us on twitter @Elombah; > 'Like' our Facebook pages: > " elombah.com" & > "For A Corruption Free > Nigeria" > > Call: +447460770987, +44-2088087999, > +2348153627596; > publisher@elombah.com > > -- > If you do not want to receive any > more newsletters, > > http://www.elombah.com/Subscribe/lists/?p=unsubscribe&uid=edd8ce7d3a07e0aaaf21900e46a271e5 > > To > update your preferences and to unsubscribe > visit > http://www.elombah.com/Subscribe/lists/?p=preferences&uid=edd8ce7d3a07e0aaaf21900e46a271e5 > Forward > a Message to > Someone > http://www.elombah.com/Subscribe/lists/?p=forward&uid=edd8ce7d3a07e0aaaf21900e46a271e5∣=1711 > > > -- > powered > by phpList, www.phplist.com -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google Groups "AfricanWorldForum" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails > from it, send an email to africanworldforum+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > To post to this group, send email to africanworldforum@googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/africanworldforum. > > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/africanworldforum/D8574617-D1A6-4F2E-B726-DAE7F31E3FCF%40aol.com. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AfricanWorldForum" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to africanworldforum+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to africanworldforum@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/africanworldforum. > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/africanworldforum/1429640225.68912.YahooMailBasic%40web125604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "AfricanWorldForum" group. 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