USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: [africanworldforum] Re: Afenifere calls for stoppage of Fulani cattle rearing Yorubaland

Yeyerolling Omo Baba WereSanya:

No !!!

Are you or any one of your relatives a  land thief?

The word out there is that the problem with your folks
in Ijebu Igbo is not about stealing which could be managed
with serial jail terms, but rather familial psychosis-a serious mental disorder
that is often a challenge to manage for mental health professionals.

You should also have yourself checked out as you display the classic symtoms
of the Tourette syndrome including uncontrollable tics and the involuntary urges
to throw abuse words at innocent individuals including your superiors and those who are old enough
to have been your tutor or professor --that is if you ever stepped
on to the campus of an academic institution beyond a community college.

Considering you have now received the attention you crave from
me, you are now released from detention. You can now crawl back to your bedroom
where you can resume sucking your thumb.

Bye.

Ola

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Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2015 9:02 pm
Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Re: Afenifere calls for stoppage of Fulani cattle rearing Yorubaland

Kassim:

Should land thieves be given death sentence ?

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Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Re: Afenifere calls for stoppage of Fulani cattle rearing Yorubaland

Bolaji:

I concur with each and everyone of your recommendations
 your recommendations on both
issues.

The only amendment that I would suggest
is this one:

Some criminals deserve the death penalty especially
in circumstances where their trials have been found
to be free and fair and they have either exhausted their
appeals or when they confess to the heinous crimes
committed.
Criminals like Shekau and all of his BH goonsdeserve to be lined
up Bar Beach and shot to death by a firing squad
for the the crimes they have commuted against
humanity.

Why spend scarce resources keeping half human- half animals in prison
until they die?

Bye,

Ola

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From: Mobolaji Aluko <alukome@gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 7:32 PM
Subject: [africanworldforum] Re: Afenifere calls for stoppage of Fulani cattle rearing Yorubaland

My People:

If the report is TRUE - and I don't believe it until it is re-confirmed -  that Afenifere is calling for stoppage of Fulani cattle rearing in Yorubaland because of the recent kidnapping of Chief Olu Falae allegedly by Fulani herdsmen, then it is a most unwise call, and unbecoming of such a distinguished gathering of Yoruba individuals.

Rather, they should be calling for INTENSIFIED action AGAINST kidnapping in general all over the country, because such a dastardly event has hit too close to home for them.

The other day - in 2013 - an equally distinguished Northern politician/elder statesman Ali Monguno was kidnapped on May 3, 2013, and released three days later: who should have been stopped then? Sure, the BH that allegedly kidnapped him, and got some ransom payment.   Madame Okonjo (NOI's mother), was also kidnapped (December 2012; freed five days later), Prof. Ilemoboade (June 2015; found dead)  too by their servants, none of who was a Fulani herdsman etc.  Should servants now be banned?

I believe that this report is being touted to make the Afenifere look smal.  But if it is true, then Afenifere is making itself look small, and it would appear is smarting from some recent political bloodied nose.

Moving on...

The best way to stop Fulani cattle rearing in Yorubaland is to:

  (1)  stop eating beef in Yorubaland

  (2)  create grazing land and cow-markets in Yorubaland

  (3)  have an integrated railway system in Yorubaland, with grazing land and the cow-markets near key railway stations.

  (4)  double-up on education for the masses

The best way to stop kidnapping in Nigeria is to:

  (1)  double-up on expenditure on education and social services in Nigeria

  (2)  speed up the idea of community policing, which would involve doubling or tripling police population

  (3)  stop paying ransom on kidnapped victims; unfortunately some may die in the process

  (4)  give mandatory life-sentences to kidnappers, after trying them PUBLICLY.   (5)  Although I don't support the death penalty, I would keep quiet if a kidnap victim died in the hands of a kidnapper on which a death penalty is imposed.

And there you have it.

Bolaji Aluko

And there you have it.

Bolaji Aluko

A Member of ARG

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 12:06 AM, 'Leye Ige' via AfricanWorldForum <africanworldforum@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Editorial: Chief Falae and the Fulani Bogey
By adminadmin on September 27, 2015


On February 27, 1933 the German Reichstag(German Parliament)  was burnt and even though a communist partisan was charged with the crime and sentenced to death, the Nazi Party blamed the entire world wide communist movement for the act and created  the bogey of Communist take-over of Germany as the basis for its own  absolute hold on power and this singular effort subsequently led to the destruction of the Communist party as well as the rise and dominance of the Nazis with all of its implications for the rest of the world.
Afenifere and its associates, having made a bogey of the Fulani, have attempted to place the recent kidnapping of Chief Olu Falae, one of its leaders, within the context of their anti-Fulani rhetoric. Afenifere had earlier made the anti-Fulani narrative its political showpiece in an attempt to coral Yoruba votes for Goodluck Jonathan, hence situated the 2015 presidential election within an anti-Fulani, anti-North paradigm, even as it is on record that the same Afenifere supported and promoted Buhari's  2007 and 2011 presidential runs, regardless of Buhari's Fulaniness.  This transformation from a pro-Fulani(Buhari) to its opposite within a space of four years came without any significant change in Buhari's persona or political views, so much so that making anti-Fulani its mantra is the stuff of political opportunism at its highest. The organization wasted no time in concluding that Chief Falae's kidnappers were Fulani herdsmen intent on
 destroying not only the chief's farmland but also advance their long-standing ravaging of farmlands.
There is thus a need for the Yoruba Nation to be circumspect in the emerging narrative lest we be corralled into a fruitless political endeavor unwittingly allowing unfriendly interests to have political control of our land.
While it is historically true that Fulani herdsmen embark on forcible use of farmlands, "ooduapathfinder" says that the modus operandi of these herdsmen has not, so far, involved kidnapping-for-ransom. They have maimed, raped and killed in the process of grazing their cattle but have not engaged in kidnapping-for-ransom. The matter is not helped by Chief Falae himself, who, according to his published statements, tended to allege the kidnappers as "Boko Haram"; that is, "Northerners" and by implication and following Afenifere's logic, Fulani, simply on the reference to the terrorist group by one of kidnappers.
"ooduapathfinder" believes that Chief Olu Falae is capable of knowing a Fulani when he sees one; just as he ought to know, given his very extensive participation in Nigeria's governance at the highest levels, that a casual reference to any organization by a kidnapper  or criminal does not necessarily translate into the criminal belonging to such an organization.
Yet, we all know that the Niger Delta "militants" specialize in kidnapping-for-ransom; and they still operate in that mode, even after their amnesty program. Coupled with this is the fact that the Ijaw "militants" have not only threatened Yorubaland preparatory to the 2015 presidential elections, they have also been active in the Ondo axis, especially in the riverine areas which they lay claim to while an attempt was made, during Jonathan's Conference, to carve that portion out of the present Ondo State as a state on its own.  "ooduapathfinder" believes that Chief Olu Falae's experience lie between these two possibilities.
The reference to the Nazi paradigm is to alert us to the reality of using a bogey to neutralize an opponent while establishing a different order. So, what would Afenifere gain by flip-flopping on Buhari when it is not only not in power but also not in contention for it? The only answer would be an effort to make Yorubaland a "no man's land", make the land lay prostrate for any taker; a case of cutting one's nose to spite one's face; its ultimate expression of political degeneracy.
In this process, it has embarked on all sorts of political somersaults, primary of which is its insistence on the recommendations of the Jonathan Conference. Yet, when Afeinfere gets on its anti-Fulani, anti-North bogey-wagon, it fails to acknowledge the reality of the National Question in the North itself. The NE zone actively participated in the same Jonathan Conference; yet many of its representatives have now agreed that the conference was a sham and would not remotely address their own issues hence called for a fresh Conference to specifically address their problems. The difference between the aspirations of the NE and what Afenifere is selling is as clear as daylight. What then would be the difference between the two if not that the NE is very concrete about its own problems hence sure of its solution in not being subservient to a Jonathanian adventurism while the Afenifere would prefer continuous subjugation under what would have amounted to a
 more centralized State were Jonathan to get away with his Conference recommendations?
Granted that historically, the Fulani had exhibited and perfected the assimilationist tendency which allowed its aristocracy to accommodate non-Fulani in its power structures, primary examples being the likes of Sunday Awoniyi and Adamu Ciroma in the first republic, it is also historically proven that both the then Middle Belt represented by UMBC and the NE via the Borno Youth Movement were not shy from displaying their autonomist tendencies which allowed for their alliance with the Action Group, the foremost party advocating for a true Federal State at the time. Befuddling the political space with the "Northern" or Fulani bogey is therefore not only a-historical but also anti-Federal.
The implication of all these would be an alienation of the Peoples of Nigeria not only from themselves but also from each other such that the only beneficiary would the central state structure which would be able to manipulate the peoples to its own advantage hence creating its own assimilationist mechanism. Thus, the Peoples self-expression would be folded into a "Northern" and "Southern" paradigm aimed at neutralizing even such current demands of the NE for a development rethink on a country-wide level.
Aside from all of the above, it is common knowledge that Fulani herdsmen trample on farmlands at will, without any existing State apparatus able to do anything about it which also calls into question the necessity and/or viability of such State structures. Within the context of this kidnap therefore, Afenifere and its associates have not done any favors to the grazing problem, which, paradoxically, the NE call for a developmental Conference for its zone must necessarily address. That Afenifere would fail to see the connection and simply resort to an anti-North, anti-Fulani alarmist mode would show its complete political inadequacy while pretending to advocate its own version of "Yoruba interest" which is at variance with the general interest the Yoruba have always demanded.
Even if limited to a contradiction between the herdsmen and farmers like Chief Olu Falae, a non-opportunistic approach would not fail to see the solution to this contradiction residing in the resolution of the National Question, where, leaving aside the criminal nature of the kidnap, which itself is a function of the limitations of the post colonial Nation State, grazing issues go beyond Nigeria borders; hence a clear roadmap towards resolving it ought to have been the major issue of the day, rather than the bogey of the "North" or the Fulani. Once again, the NE call for a fresh Conference provided the impetus where such could be addressed; for if Afenifere would be true to history, it would note the fact of the establishment of farm settlements in the Western Region where some were set up as cattle ranches, hence if today's grazing issues were to be addressed, it would have to take into consideration the possibilities of other Regions in Nigeria
 establishing such ranches for its own cattle development which will in turn directly translate into relationships between nomadic and sedentary production of cattle.
The beauty of the NE call is in the fact that her own people will make their own decisions rather than an amorphous group which had always been the case with previous conferences. This initiative by the NE ought to have been the recommended template for other Regions/Zones which would ultimately lead to some sort of negotiations between the zones for a new Grundnorm for our mutual existence. Afenifere lacked the capacity and the courage to take this step, unlike the NE, who, even after being part of the Jonathan Conference, rejected it and promoted an alternative.


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On Tue, 9/29/15, Imperial imperial_ltd@yahoo.com [NaijaObserver] <NaijaObserver@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: ||NaijaObserver||Afenifere calls for stoppage of Fulani cattle rearing  Yorubaland
 To: NaijaObserver@yahoogroups.com
 Cc: africanworldforum@googlegroups.com, OmoOdua@yahoogroups.com, "Oyo Forum State Intellectual Forum State Intellectual Forum" <oyo-forum@yahoogroups.com>, "Yan" <YanArewa@yahoogroups.com>, "Naija" <Naijadreamteamintellectuals@yahoogroups.co.uk>, develop-nigeria@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2015, 5:55 PM


  









       These Afenifere people are not as smart
 and their suggestion appears to lend credence to
 what Afis
 Odidere earlier stated that Chief Olu Falae stage-managed
 his own kidnapping  or the entire allegation is a hoax
 . Why
 should it be Falae's case - which does not establish any
 reasonable nexus  between the circumstances that led to
 Fulani cattle eating his crops,which he received
 compensation for - and his recent
 kidnapping by an unknown group?  We all know that Fulani
 cattle rearing business in Yoruba land predates the colonial
 rule when all Yoruba men and women alive today were not
 born, why
 should an unclear case of kidnapping of Olu Falae lead to
 severance of the agelong relationship between the two ethnic
 groups?  Let's even assume
 that their allegation that Falae was kidnapped by Fulani is
 true, what sanction.awaits Yoruba, Igbo, Ibibio, Kanuri, Edo
 kidnappers ? Who are the Afenifere
 group (that was mercilessly defeated in the last general
 elections ) to decide for the entire Yoruba race ? Are they
 bad losers ? Are they not a minority group in Yoruba land
 now ? If they truly believe in democracy, why can't they
 support the decision of the majority ? Is it not safe for one
 to conclude that the Afenifere  group engineered the
 kidnapping of Olu Falae with a view to creating disunity
 between the various ethnic groups in the country
 ? 


 Sent
 from my iPad
 On 29 Sep 2015, at
 19:09, vincent modebelu vin_modebelu@yahoo.com
 [NaijaObserver] <NaijaObserver@yahoogroups.com>
 wrote:
















  






          
  
 Hmmmmm.
 I have a
 feeling that some of these people had already been sent to
 the Emirs to thank them for their Fulani not killing Olu
 Falae.
 This same
 people will go to Buhari and ElRufai to tell him that they
 did not mean their public position. That is was taken to
 make them not to look weak before the other southerners.

 Lets see
 how they bare gong to do this when The Asiwaju is afraid of
 his masters. He wants to survive


 vin.....///
 ....Born to tell the
 truth....they are
 listening indeed
 ... thick walls
 will  fall
 Afenifere calls for
 stoppage of Fulani cattle rearing activities in
 Yorubalandon  September 29, 2015    /   in News 6:02
 pm   /   CommentsFacebook Twitter Google+ LinkedIn Reddit PrintDayo
 Johnson AkureAFENIFERE,
 a Pan-Yoruba Socio Political group yesterday rose from an
 emergency meeting in Akure, the Ondo state capital and
 called for the stoppage of cattle rearing activities in the
 south West states following the menace of Fulani
 herdsmen.The
 group said that the activities of the fulani herdsmen in the
 states have endangered the lives of the people.Spokesman
 of the group, Yinka Odumakin said that their activities
 ‎should be stopped in" every space of Yorubaland just as
 he called for those the arrest of those who abducted a
 Chieftain of the group Chief Olu Falae.Odumakin
 declared that " In the event this call is not yielded then
 our people may result to self help to protect
 themselves.The meeting
 last over six hours and it was chaired by its National
 Chairman, Pa Reuben Fasoranti at his Country home in
 Akure.They
 group described the attack and abduction of one of its
 leaders who was the former Secretary to the Government of
 the Federation SGF, Chief Olu Falae as an insult on the
 race.‎A
 Communique read to newsmen by Odumakin said "We demand
 that nomadic cattle rearing should be stopped in every state
 of Yoruba land."We
 believe now that after what has happened to chief Falae,
 people would not tolerate such thing in any part of Yoruba
 land ."So
 while we await the arrest of the criminals, the cattle
 rearing should be stop in Yoruba land."Yoruba
 people go to any part of the country to trade,no history or
 record of such anywhere that the Yorubas destroy the
 business of their host. What we cannot do to others, nobody
 should do it to us.Odumakin
 said that the meeting" decried insecurity in the country
 as relate to the unrelenting blood letting by the terrorist
 Boko Haram and the wave of unchecked kidnapping going on in
 the country."A
 special focus was beam on the recent abduction of one of our
 revered leader in Afenifere,Chief Olu Falae, also a former
 secretary to the government of the federation and former
 presidential candidates,while on his farm."We
 describe this as scandalous and chilling that the harrowing
 experience of the 77 year old man in the hands of
 vandals,miscreants."The
 Meeting did not considers it as a mere coincidence that
 chief Olu Falae for two to three years has been having
 running battles with the Fulani herdsmen on the very farm
 before he was abducted."Last
 of such was about two months earlier when they enter his
 farmland and destroyed it and chief Falae pursue the matter
 with the police and grudgingly accepted half of what the
 police said they should pay as compensation."The
 fulani elements coming to abduct him two months latter, is
 presumably a vengeance mission for justice that he pursued
 against the invasion of his farm and the destruction of his
 hand work."
 The meeting recalled that for years, farmers in Yoruba land
 has been expressing what chief Falae was going through in
 the hands of this nomadic cattle rearers".
 You will recalled that in year 2000 in Oke Ogun area of Oyo
 state, the fulani herdsmen and farmers had a major clash
 which led to a strong delegation from Arewa consultative
 forum to storm the office of the office of the then Governor
 Lam Adesina in a rowdy and angry manner on behalf of fulani
 ."The
 meeting also noted that the 2014 national conference in
 which chief Falae led the Yoruba delegation ,extensively
 discuss this matter of nomadic cattle rearing and the
 conference resolved the it should be stopped and instead
 have ranches for cattle business."We
 condemned the abduction of Chief olu Falae and his gruesome
 experience as shameful, insensitive and a violent violation
 of Yoruba culture, values and space.Afenifere calls for
 stoppage of Fulani cattle rearing activities in Yorubaland -
 Vanguard
 New


 vin.....///
 ....Born to tell the
 truth....they are
 listening indeed
 ... thick walls
 will  fall





















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