Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - RE: THE ABUJA MINISTERIAL BLUES - by Dele Momodu

Anunoby Ogugua:

Can I apologize a third time to you for apologizing two times already
today? Would that not be two times too many for you? Will that cause
you a serious heartburn?

Quite frankly, you have to calm down, OA, as you also try to sneak in
your pound of flesh, to upbraid me in a sneaky manner! Quite frankly,
I don't take myself as seriously as you or some folk around me here
take me. That is why I have been able to last on these Forums for 22
years now - I joined these Nigerian forums August 1993, when they were
NOTHING like what we have now! Some of the folks around here now
where not even born then, and another number where barely out of
primary school.

As I wrote below, I see Naija-forums as my "tombo-joint", where a mix
of seriousness and jocularity can mix. I have made some great friends
here-about - cemented of course OUTSIDE the Net - but I have also
attracted intractable caterwaulers who I would not cross the street
with if I met them live. But what I have found is that the anonymity
of the Net often EMBOLDENS quite a number of people - like wine does
to the cowardly - but when you meet them live, they are meek as lambs.

So calm down.....my apologies are even accompanied with some jibes, if
you read between the lines.

Finally, those who have been with me on the Net for 10, 15, 20 years
know that I HARDLY ever apologize. They would be extremely surprised
at my current apologies. This is because I am prone to only
EXPRESSING REGRETS - to the extent that an action of mine
UNINTENTIONALLY caused somebody else grief, any grief at all - but
historically I only apologize when I DELIBERATELY intended to cause
you some grief, but it impacted you FAR MORE than I intended.

I just lowered my standards here, first for Ogbuefi Onyeani, because
he is a Senior Friend, and for Paul Oranika, because I wanted to cause
Ogugua Anunoby grief! For both, I should have expressed regrets, but
I am being very generous today.

And there you have it.


Bolaji Aluko
Having a belly laugh





On 10/6/15, Anunoby, Ogugua <AnunobyO@lincolnu.edu> wrote:
> I respectfully state that two apologies in one day is one too many for me. A
> little big-heartedness, cool-headedness, and restraint is always helpful in
> enlightened, intellectual, public conversations, even when they are
> adversarial and provocative. A cut and slash disposition, and uncouthness in
> thought and words, seldom make a point of view more persuasive and are
> therefore mostly unproductive. If anything, they may be indications of the
> immaturity that results in the mismanaging of one's frustration with others
> and/or irreverence toward self and them.
> My thought is that a majority of this forum's contributors are adults in
> privileged stations in life. Everyone should know to conduct themselves in
> consonance with the responsibility of their station in life therefore.
> I sometimes think that all we do in this forum is think aloud. Is there
> anyone who disagrees? I say it is it is well to think aloud because good
> ideas are shared- spread around to help people grow. How better to help to
> +vely change the world? This said, I am not sure that there are many people
> outside this forum who take forum participants as seriously as they seem to
> take themselves.
> The promises of life include difference and change. Let us all enjoy them.
>
> oa
> From: Mobolaji Aluko [mailto:alukome@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 11:46 PM
> To: Paul Oranika
> Cc: africanworldforum@googlegroups.com; Chika Onyeani; Anunoby, Ogugua;
> usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com; NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com;
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> Subject: Re: THE ABUJA MINISTERIAL BLUES - by Dele Momodu
>
> Paul Oranika:
>
> First let me express my apologies if indeed we met Mano-a-Mano before,
> particularly at the INC FUO fund-raising event in New Jersey in 2012 or so.
> It was not meant as a put-down. For the life of me, I still do not recall
> the meeting, otherwise I would say so, but you must understand that for an
> event in which raising money for the University was a major component, I met
> quite a lot of different people that day that I met for the first time only
> that day, and have not met again since. In such a situation, it is not
> unusual for them to recollect, and I don't.
>
> By the way, if you had donated substantially to the effort on that day, I
> would have recalled your presence:-). If you had done so, you would have had
> good cause to visit your small "investment" in Otuoke rather than give the
> puerile after-thought of fearing an accusation of a job search at the
> University. Quite a number of visiting Nigerians have dropped by both
> announced and un-announced -including Okey Iheduru and Joe Attueyi, who was
> given a special tour - and they will tell you how happy we are to see them
> and show them around. Maybe na guilty concience ne ye ghi nsogbu? You
> could even have come without asking for me, as Okey Iheduru once did!
>
> The CNN brouhaha is another matter. From 1993 when I became active in
> Nigerian affairs while abroad till date, I have interacted with so many
> Nigerians and others in Cyber-committees - Nigerians many that I never met -
> that it would be impossible to remember all of them by name, or them my
> name, unless I had some other prolonged interaction with them outside the
> Net, or there was some particularly sweet or trenchantly bitter
> experience......
>
> Like the NDERG and ANAC brouhaha.....clearly you still queerly believe that
> NDERG 'stole' the Diaspora Voting Rights initiative idea from ANAC, when in
> fact all we did was advance the ball one down by SUING the Federal
> Government successfully in court, at a time when many organizations like
> yours did not know what to do next. The common person between ANAC and
> NDERG was Akeem Bello, and NDERG became ANAC's collateral damage for him (as
> target of venom) choosing voluntarily to associate with another organization
> at the same time. That was the soul of the brouhaha.
>
> Finally, whether it wwas NDERG, or CNN Committee or Ijaw-Itsekiri-Urhobi or
> June 12 PDM matters of yore, I have never shied away from Nigerian
> activism. That is why the accusation of some caterwaulers around here of
> "notice me" activity - a give-away Pigeon-English-framed characterization -
> is both jejune and puerile, and laughable, to say the least. I "leave"
> (sic) here physically in Nigeria, as a high government appointee, and I
> wonder why it is on the Internet that I should now strive to be noticed by
> the PMB administration. I must tell you though that these Intrrnet forums
> arei an exciting tombo-joint where one can use one's English episodically,
> meet a few bright fellows, but also wrestle a few Abioduns, no pun
> intended.
>
> And there you have it. Next time, drop some coins, and I will surely
> remember, but once again, my apologies for only believing in the negative of
> (not) meeting you.
>
>
> Bolaji Aluko
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 6, 2015, Paul Oranika
> <oranika@yahoo.com<mailto:oranika@yahoo.com>> wrote:
> I do not believe I have ever met Paul Oranika outside Cyberspace, but we
> have interacted since at least 2006, during his ANAC exploits as
> spokesperson, and I believe later as Chairman, while I headed NDERG of the
> Diaspora Voting rights law suit against the Federal Government of Nigeria
> fame, which NDERG won, with Femi Falana as our counsel. ANAC and NDERG had
> their brushes then, over some silly bragging rights.--Bolaji Aluko
> Bolaji
> I was a little surprised when i read you say that you do not believe you
> have ever met me in person. It is either a poor memory on your part or an
> outright attempt to misrepresent the truth. Not to say that there was any
> potential benefit for anyone to meet you but I recall that you and I met and
> chatted at the fundraising event for Otuoke University organized by the Ijaw
> National Congress in New Jersey several years ago, tell me that you forgot
> that you and Paul Oranika were part of the different presentations on that
> event.
> We had a prolonged conversation at that event. You loose credibility when
> you imply that your association with me is limited to Cyberspace we both
> also participated in the Committee that worked against the bogus CNN "How to
> rob a Bank report" about Nigerians. On the ANAC and NDERG exploits, infact
> NDERG stole ANAC originated idea of Diaspora Voting Rights which we had
> packaged and submitted to the Nigerian House even before NDERG came to the
> scene. i have so many witnesses that can testify to the fact. But anyway
> these things are in the past. If Ayo thinks that only Igbos are against
> Buhari, he is sadly mistaken. the truth of the matter is that as far as
> Bolaji and Ayo are concerned everything Buhari dies is justifiable, and
> anyone that criticizes his administration must be a Buhari hatter.
> Several years ago I was in Port Harcourt and I thought about stopping at
> Otuoke to say hi, but my mind told me not to do so because of your tendency
> to misinterpret things. Glad I did not because, if i had done so, this
> perhaps would have been another tale of Paul Oranika coming to Otuoke to
> look for job or favors from Bolaji Aluko (Hahahaha) These days I find myself
> having so much belly laughs which you popularized in these fora. As for
> Osuji, he is not a role model for anyone, but i think he did the honorable
> thing by calling a spade what it is with respect to the over inflated
> potentials of Buhari.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Mobolaji Aluko
> <alukome@gmail.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','alukome@gmail.com');>>
> To:
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> Sent: Monday, October 5, 2015 1:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [africanworldforum] Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: THE
> ABUJA MINISTERIAL BLUES - by Dele Momodu
>
>
> Ogbuefi Chika:
>
> 1. Let me apologize for using the word "ilk", I should have used the word
> "crowd" instead - you seem to prefer that word when you described your group
> below during Obama's inauguration celebration.
>
> 2. I never said that you asked me to introduce you to Obama. Rather, we
> the organizers of that Obama inaugural event (chaired by that Collins
> Ezebuih(w)e) that I personally bent over backward to ensure you and your
> wife had a table (maybe your nth Inaugural event on that day, who knows?)
> at the Nigerian Embassy of 2009 NEVER denied the possibility of Obama
> "dropping by", even though NOBODY ever informed us that he would. But hope
> sprung eternal...and we are still waiting for Obama....
>
> No, I would NEVER have "made the content (of your GEJ letter) public",
> unless AFTER writing the letter, you denied it. I am (in)famous on Naijanet
> for showing up many many liars who try to use the natural abhorrence of
> disclosing private discussions or exchanges to HIDE their lies. I NEVER
> agree to being such an accomplice.....and I never cringe to do so when I see
> a person treading that path.
>
> Finally, Elder Onyeani, I will continue to be of whatever assistance to you
> that you are comfortable with, just as I expect that you will reciprocate.
>
> Best wishes always.
>
>
>
> Bolaji Aluko
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Chika Onyeani
> <conyeani@africansuntimes.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','conyeani@africansuntimes.com');>>
> wrote:
> Bolaji,
> Please don't stretch the truth. I never once asked you to introduce me to
> Obama. In fact, my wife and I were staying at the hotel where we paid a
> $1,000 that night, and then we met you and your wife. We were with our own
> crowd. I cannot dispute whatever else you wrote. But just imagine if I had
> sent the letter for Goodluck Jonathan through you, and in your swirl of
> anger, I am sure you would made the content public.
> As I told you, I want to do something for Goodluck Jonathan because of what
> he did for Nigeria. I am still going to do it, and I might still consider
> doing it through you if you apologize for using the word 'ilk" about me. I
> still consider you a young friend.
> Chika Onyeani
>
> Dr. Chika Onyeani
> Publisher/Editor-in-Chief
> African Sun Times
> Email:
> conyeani@africansuntimes.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','conyeani@africansuntimes.com');>
> Tel.: 973-675-9919
> Cell: 917-279-4038
>
> Author: The Phenomenally Successful No.1 Bestselling Book, "Capitalist
> Nigger - The Road to Success", and his New Book "Roar of the African Lion."
>
> On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Anunoby, Ogugua
> <AnunobyO@lincolnu.edu<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','AnunobyO@lincolnu.edu');>>
> wrote:
> What is all the hullabaloo about lobbying for ministerial appointment? I do
> not know that there is much that is wrong with any Nigerian lobbying to be
> appointed a member of an elected president's cabinet in the capacity of
> minister or any other. It is neither against the law nor immoral in my book.
> The president does not know every Nigerian he could work with. Then again
> the qualification bar for ministerial office is after all not really high.
> Cunning and guile are highly rated. They might even make one more
> competitive. If the selection process in the past is any guide,
> qualifications for the office are considerably unclear and somewhat shifty.
> The now elected president lobbied Nigerians for his job- he relentlessly
> campaigned for it for well over a decade. He succeeded in his fourth
> attempt. If he lobbied Nigerians for his job for as long as he did, and got
> the job, lobbying works. Why not some Nigerians for their jobs too? Why not
> people who wish to work with and for him? They after all have been lobbying
> him and his agents for no longer than a few months only. Is there anyone who
> does not know that that this president self-promoted for many years before
> he got his present job. He actually has not ceased to self-promote himself.
> Why not people who wish to join him in so called "service " to Nigeria as
> his ministers?
> My concern is not that anyone may choose or actually chooses to lobby for a
> government job. Nigeria has paid a heavy price for reluctant public
> servants. I do not believe that the country needs any more of them now or in
> the future. My concern is that the president appoints/chooses competent
> people to work for and with him to move Nigeria forward as he claims he
> wishes to do. Will he? That is the question. If he does not wish to, he may
> repeat the mistakes of some of his predecessors in office, price loyalty to
> him as a person above loyalty to Nigeria, and choose members of his team on
> that basis mostly. If he wishes to, he must look beyond blinkered
> recommendations, long-term personal relationships, fraudulent and padded
> resume/curriculum vitae, unenlightened self-interest shrouded as party
> loyalty, and most of all Nigeria's broadly not narrowly defined short and
> long term public interest. Is he doing much of the above? Everyone paying
> attention- watching, listening, and appraising must decide for themselves.
> The president must never forget that Nigeria does not belong to him alone or
> his party. His personal experience must remind him if nothing else does,
> that power is fleeting, skittish, and transient. It is here today and gone
> tomorrow. He must use it well while he has it. Did he use it well in his
> previous incarnation as Head of State? He must answer truthfully to
> himself. This time, he must do the most good for the greatest number. He
> should only make unavoidable enemies. He should use power such that when it
> is all over, he will not look back in anger, distress, or regret, but in
> satisfaction and contentment. He should be able to confidently say "I
> tried". He must always try his best and hardest. All the above is always
> possible to do. Does he need reminding that he was not drafted for the job?
> Not in my opinion. He volunteered for it.
> One political party recently lost power at the center making room for him to
> be president. If he does well. his party shall lose power and make room for
> another president later rather than sooner. The president must always
> remember that his responsibility to Nigerians as their president is first
> and foremost of a fiduciary one. He will need more than his cronies and
> party people to discharge that responsibility faithfully and to the best of
> his ability and opportunity. He was bitten once. He must ensure that he is
> not twice shy.
>
> oa
>
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> Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: THE ABUJA MINISTERIAL BLUES - by
> Dele Momodu
>
>
> Ayo Ojutalayo :
>
> Thank you for spelling it out to Paul Oranika. I do not consider Osuji or
> Nebu my role models, and I am sure that the feeling is mutual.
>
> Two groups of people that I react to publicly very negatively are my friends
> and Christians, when they behave badly publicly and want to compromimise me
> into silence. I don't allow anyone to kiss me behind and diss me in full
> view. A friend who says something publicly about you that you don't respond
> to is an implied affirmation of what was said. I have long considered
> Ogbuefi Onyeani a senior friend, and was shocked at his remarks about my
> alleged ministerial intentions.
>
> I do not believe I have ever met Paul Oranika outside Cyberspace, but we
> have interacted since at least 2006, during his ANAC exploits as
> spokesperson, and I believe later as Chairman, while I headed NDERG of the
> Diaspora Voting rights law suit against the Federal Government of Nigeria
> fame, which NDERG won, with Femi Falana as our counsel. ANAC and NDERG had
> their brushes then, over some silly bragging rights.
>
> 'Nuff said...but I could not react to Paul the way I react to Dr.
> Onyeani....one is a cyber-associate, an email address, while the other is a
> friend whose wife I have met, whose newspaper office I have been to in New
> York at his invitation, whose radio program I have stayed late to
> participate in (both in the USA and from here in Nigeria) a number of times,
> and who I bent over backwards to ALMOST ensure that he met Obama at BHO's
> first Inauguration outing in 2009 ..;-)...he won't deny any of those either,
> hence my disappointment.
>
> And there you have it. I am moving on....it is a new week.
>
>
> Bolaji Aluko
>
>
> On Monday, October 5, 2015, 'Ayo Ojutalayo' via AfricanWorldForum
> <africanworldforum@googlegroups.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','africanworldforum@googlegroups.com');>>
> wrote:
> Paul,
>
> Ozodi Osuji is Igbo, Bolaji is not Igbo. It is easier for an Igbo to read
> weakness and bad motive in whatever PMB does or does not do. That was why
> even Nebu, a long time supporter of Buhari, did not hold back in abusing and
> insulting PMB for what he called lopsided appointments. Ozodi stopped being
> PMB's supporter almost immediately after the election. You must be aware
> that the anti-Buhari posture of most Igbos is an embarrassment to some
> Igbos. You must also be aware that many prominent Nigerians including Igbos,
> have defended PMB's "work pace". Why are you then surprised that Bolaji "has
> not seen any issue to disagree with Buhari to the point that he was helping
> to rationalize Buhari's inability to get a functional government in place"?
>
> Concerning Chika Onyeani, if he could make the remarks he made to Bolaji in
> public, Bolaji had a responsibility to himself to disclose his interaction
> with Chika. The interaction somehow buttressed the point Bolaji was making.
>
> Ayo Ojutalayo
>
> "The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort
> and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.
> " . . . Martin Luther King Jr
>
> ________________________________
> From: 'Paul Oranika' via AfricanWorldForum
> <africanworldforum@googlegroups.com>
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> Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2015 10:38 PM
> Subject: [africanworldforum] Re: [NIgerianWorldForum] Re: THE ABUJA
> MINISTERIAL BLUES - by Dele Momodu
>
> Good thing VC Bolaji exposed the common antics of these opportunists and
> hecklers in Naija egroups. These people would call you privately to seek
> favors for themselves and their relatives/friends, but turned around the
> next minute to publicly undermine you, question your education, profession,
> deprecate your ethnic group etc, using unspeakable slurs, insinuations and
> innuendoes and all forms of foul languages! Because you take the higher
> grounds and pledge yourself to assist them [after all, for what else are we
> born if not to assist other people in need!], some of them usually think
> they're smart-by-half, having their ways with you privately while they play
> to the gallery of the folks and neighborhood buddies who happen to share a
> myopic worldview on a national or ethnic issue under debate. Yeye people!
> JUI [still wondering how ignoble opportunists sleep!] ---JUI
>
> JUI
>
> I think Bro Bolaji took this matter too far. That Chika Onyeani asked him
> for help in reaching Dr. Jonathan should not have been introduced into this
> discussion at all. This is casual thing friends can do for one another, such
> favor which was not done anyway, has no monetary value and hence should not
> have become part of this discussion. My sole point in writing about this
> matter is to highlight certain things Nigerians do that in my view are
> cynical and unpatriotic. I gave examples with Obj looking for favors from
> Buhari who he felt may win this election then he tore his PDP identity card
> publicly just to heighten and dramatize his favor seeking actions and in the
> end he got the favors from Buhari. That single act by Obj may also prevent
> Buhari from investigating OBJ's administration.
>
> I also used another example of Soludo beating Okonjo Iwealla and Jonathan
> to possibly gain favors from Buhari, he may get some favors too i dont know.
> Even you JUI in the past have taken a contrary view and criticized some of
> Buhari's actions or lack of it. It surprises me that brother Bolaji has not
> seen any issue to disagree with Buhari to the point that he was helping to
> rationalize Buhari's inability to get a functional government in place, a
> problem that everyone knows is detrimental to the state of the Nigerian
> economy. I felt offended that Bolaji tried to explain such serious
> deficiency in a positive manner.
>
> For me that was what facilitated the comment I made. Compare Bolaji's way of
> handling the Buhari poor and slow work pace to that when he came to the
> conclusion that President Buhari was not what he thought about him, Osuji
> who I often disagree with in terms of his positions but in this case Osuji
> was objective enough to change his position from being a blind supporter of
> Buhari to a conscientious critic based on evidence and situation on the
> ground. That is where I am coming from. I mean no harm to Bolaji I was
> surprised the way he reacted to Chika Onyeani's remarks.
>
> Okechukwu P. Oranika
> ​---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> On Oct 4, 2015, at 8:35 PM, Philip Achusim pachusim@yahoo.com
> [NIgerianWorldForum] <NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> Folks:
>
> If you want something, go for it the best way you can. With no apologies.
> When I see a mamiwata that I love, I will not hesitate to call VC Aluko, if
> he can be of help. If I am interested in looting the Nigerian treasury, and
> I think worshipping Abba is the shortest route to being in Buhari's
> administration, I would have moved to Arizona by now to become Abba's
> neighbor.
>
> How do you guys think folks like Obasanjo and Buhari and Ezeana got to where
> they are today? They owe it to somebody. If VC Aluko helped anyone get
> nicely situated with Buhari, only God and the gods know which rewards Aluko
> could reap. VC Aluko himself was a beneficiary of the help given to him by
> Prof. Adefuye of blessed memory. The late Prof. Adefuye, Nigerian Ambassador
> to the US, was approached by someone I refuse to name, if he had a job for
> Aluko Jr. who was a recent law school graduate. He obliged. The next thing
> you knew, Aluko Jr. was a legal staffer at the Embassy. And mind you, he was
> not the only young Yoruba attorney in the US. Some one, and no apologies
> needed, wanted something and went after it the best way he could and he got
> it.
>
> Moving on. Then somebody said let us play it again. And they did. Aluko was
> a professor of Engineering at Howard University in DC. And so were other
> Yoruba professors at the same university. But it was only Aluko who wanted
> something else. So he went after what he wanted the best way he could. I
> listened in on the conversation between the late Adefuye and GEJ. GEJ was
> reminded that Aluko's beautiful mother is from Bayelsa. So Aluko became VC
> of Bayelsa University, the only thing GEJ did for southern Nigeria. FUO.
>
> What I am struggling to say here is that if you want something, go after it
> the best way you can. If you sit home waiting for Buhari to discover you to
> appoint you, he is not. If you are ashamed to beg for something, you may not
> get anything. Some have to beg even their own wives for some. But they get
> on here to pretend that it is wrong to beg for an appointment anyway you
> can. The only reason I am not out there begging for anything is that I
> already begged and gotten whatever it is I ever wanted. Politics is not a
> healthy profession. And I should know. Because I have never sought
> employment in that industry.
>
>
> And I am
> Ezeana Achusim
> Odi-Isaa
> Nwa Dim Orioha AKA Onyeukwu.
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
> On Oct 4, 2015, 5:06:48 PM, Vin Otuonye vincentotuonye@msn.com
> [NIgerianWorldForum] wrote:
> Bolaji:
>
> I am no caterwauling vulture. Neither am I a fan of Chika Onyeani. Quite
> honestly, I don't like his Africa Sun Newspaper. If I were Jonathan, I would
> never grant any audience with a paper in the mold of African Sun. However,
> if one called you once to get an audience with former President Jonathan, I
> don't consider that pestering. Also, I see nothing wrong in positioning
> oneself in Buhari's administration. The problem I have with you is, you seat
> on the fence on most issues. You simply refuse to rock the boat.
>
> But as my people will say, Onye na nke ya ( to each his own).
>
> Vin Cool Breeze Otuonye
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Mobolaji Aluko
> Date:10/04/2015 5:54 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: africanworldforum@googlegroups.com
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> Subject: [africanworldforum] Re: THE ABUJA MINISTERIAL BLUES - by Dele
> Momodu
> Ogbuefi:
>
> Thank you too....you have confirmed my story....I felt pestered, but I don't
> mind being pestered by you.
>
> So let us quit before it gets uglier, before the caterwauling vultures set
> in. But be assured of this: I am not angling overtly or covertly for a
> ministerial position.
>
> Have a good week.
>
>
> Bolaji Aluko
>
>
> On Sunday, October 4, 2015, 'Chika Onyeani' via AfricanWorldForum
> africanworldforum@googlegroups.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','africanworldforum@googlegroups.com');>>
> wrote:
> Bolaji,
>
> Yes, I confirm calling you about the possibility of speaking with former
> President Goodluck Jonathan, which you are now calling pestering you. Thank
> you.
>
> Chika Onyeani
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mobolaji Aluko
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> Subject: [africanworldforum] Re: THE ABUJA MINISTERIAL BLUES - by Dele
> Momodu
> Ogbuefi Chika Onyeani:
>
> You are a complete disappointment in what you wrote below, and you should be
> ashamed of yourself. I am very sorry to say so, because you and I go back
> long ways.
>
> Here you are, just two days ago, you were pestering me with a phone call all
> the way from New York, imploring me to get an interview audience with a
> former Head of State, which I promised to do if you could write write out
> precisely why, because I could not imagine just telling him that one Chika
> Onyeani wants to talk to him. Deny it, and all respect that I have for you
> will disappear. Confirm it, and there is yet hope for you with me.
>
> Let the reader now imagine what you would do if I was chosen a minister
> tomorrow.
>
> Moving on....
>
> I will not much dignify your ilk - yourself, Toyin Adepoju, Joe Attueyi,
> Paul Oranika, to name a few - who claim that I am covertly or overtly
> angling for a ministerial position. First, I have a top job as VC of a aged
> earl University, which is more prestigious, in my mind, than a ministerial
> position, more independent, and much safer. Somebody should tell you how
> Minister Wike once tried to be rude to me, and I reminded him that I was
> aVC, and he backed down. Pan other point: I am continuing as VC now, while
> one VC colleague who not too long ago relinquished his position to become
> Minister has gone with the previous administration and was never able to
> exorcise the witches and wizards bedeviling the power sector of the country.
> Secondly, unlike some of you, I come from Ekiti State where PMB has equally
> worthy persons such as Fayemi, Falana, Oni and Adebayo -to name just a few -
> to choose from. Fayemi is a virtual shoo-in, and Falana is not far behind.
>
> But let you and your ilk get it into your heads: whenever I am truly
> available, and PMB finds it worthy to offer me a position in his government
> suited to my capabilities, I will strongly consider it as another national
> device just as I took the one under GEJ, who I continue to have a good
> relationship with. I am confident that PMB is purpose-driven, and he needs
> as many purpose-driven persons to work with, not cynical naysayers with a
> pernicious agenda.
>
> And there you have it.
>
>
> Bolaji Aluko
>
>
> On Sunday, October 4, 2015, Chika Onyeani
> conyeani@africansuntimes.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','conyeani@africansuntimes.com');>>
> wrote:
> Bolaji,
> I couldn't conceive of a more cynical way of two people asking to be
> appointed to ministerial posts. Why do you and Dele Momodou hash this plot
> of being inundated by people who want you to be appointed ministers? For
> you, some people on this forum have wished that you be appointed a minister,
> albeit with tongue-in-cheek. Are you counting them as those pestering you?
> As for Dele Momodou, he made sure that everybody was aware of the day he met
> with Buhari, that all the newspapers carried his photo showing him shaking
> hands with the mighty Buhari.
> There you have it, a la Bolaji Aluko!
>
> Dr. Chika Onyeani
> Publisher/Editor-in-Chief
> African Sun Times
> Email:
> conyeani@africansuntimes.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','conyeani@africansuntimes.com');>
> Tel.: 973-675-9919
> Cell: 917-279-4038
>
> Author: The Phenomenally Successful No.1 Bestselling Book, "Capitalist
> Nigger - The Road to Success", and his New Book "Roar of the African Lion."
>
> On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 3:13 AM, Mobolaji Aluko
> alukome@gmail.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','alukome@gmail.com');>>
> wrote:
>
> My People:
>
> I fully believe Dele Momodu on this "ministerial desperation" display by
> people other than the alleged nominee - my respect for him increases for the
> bravery to write this piece at this particular time. Unless you have not
> been mentioned even in a passing manner, you won't understand how really it
> is plain ridiculous what "ministerial appointment" appears to mean to the
> average Nigerian: an avenue to co-chop, a sort of "arrival". I can show you
> my own SMS of people who have "dreamt" of my elevation to Abuja, and their
> "bookings" to join me there to assist me! :-)
>
> I believe that that is part of the reason why Buhati has taken his time,
> first to de-mystify ministerial positions - which are merely supervisory,
> not executive, albeit necessary - and secondly to weed out those who indeed
> show (too much) desperation by pestering/lobbying him, directly or through
> proxies. I have never quite understood how you lobby for "minister", except
> you are also lobbying for the "minister for..." - suppose you are given "for
> women affairs" or "for culture" for which are not really qualified? Matching
> "state" (for political expediency) and technical position must be dicey for
> a President bent on the most efficient Cabinet, especially one who has not
> even settled on all the ministries, and who wants the best mix of
> politicians, technocrats and bureaucrats.
>
> As I guessed before, PMB's first list of ministers was sent in to the Senate
> at 4.56 pm on Sept. 30. If he could, he would have sent it on Sept 31. Here
> is a warning: Let those who will be PMB's ministers brace up: they have work
> to do, and it won't be business as usual. And let those who will - and must
> - join them there also brace up.....they may end up in jail quicker than
> they think if it is to chop in a finger-licking manner.
>
> But all of them will write their names in gold if they can assist him in
> beginning to turn this country around within the next three-and-a-half
> years. Is that not what true service is about, rather than being arrested
> all over the place and vilified?
>
> And there you have it.
>
>
> Bolaji Aluko
>
>
>
> THE ABUJA MINISTERIAL BLUES
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> PENDULUM BY DELE MOMODU, Email:
> dele.momodu@thisdaylive.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dele.momodu@thisdaylive.com');>
> Fellow Nigerians, the story you are about to read is the stuff of fiction.
> Or better put, it is like a play or movie. One title that readily comes to
> mind is that beautiful stage-play, 'A Play of Giants', by foremost
> playwright, Wole Soyinka. It is an incredible tale of power in Africa's
> biggest nation, Nigeria.
> Let me start it like this. I departed Ghana for Dubai the very day General
> Muhmmadu Buhari was declared winner of the last Presidential election in
> Nigeria. As soon as I landed in Dubai, I received countless messages of
> congratulations which must have been hanging whilst I was in the skies. Some
> of the senders asked if I was in Abuja in order to come celebrate with me.
> But I was far from Nigeria and told them so. For me the mission was already
> accomplished and it was time to take a bow. I was not a member of APC but
> merely a volunteer and sympathiser.
> I couldn't ever believe that my response did not go down well with some
> people. Unknown to me, they had banked on riding me as their donkey to the
> corridors of power in Abuja. They were so sure I could get whatever I wanted
> from the incoming government. All explanations to the contrary from me fell
> on deaf ears. They were convinced I was just being pretentious and didn't
> want to be of help. The more charitable ones did not stress me much but
> pleaded with me to remember them in my forthcoming paradise. I shook my head
> in utter incredulity. Of course, I did not go near Abuja for about two
> months thereafter although I continued to be pestered from far and near by
> supposed well-wishers.
> On my return to Nigeria from one of my trips a couple of months after the
> swearing in of President Buhari and the Vice President Professor Yemi
> Osinbajo SAN, I received a delegation of friends who I thought were just on
> a casual visit. After having a few drinks, one of them stood up to start a
> conversation: "Bob Dee, we have come to offer you some wise counsel. We want
> you to stop being foolish. You've paid your dues and deserve something
> tangible in this new government…"
> If I thought he was just pulling my legs and being melodramatic, he soon
> overreached himself and did what I least expected! He suddenly went on his
> knees and started begging me like a penitent school kid: "Please, listen to
> us. Even if you are not interested, please do so for our sake. If we have
> you in government, it means we are there too. .."
> Then, he compounded the unexpected act, by diving flat on the floor in some
> grotesque form of prostration. I looked at the gentleman with great concern
> and anxiety as I wondered if he had suffered a bout of epilepsy. But he
> appeared normal and stable and revved into what seemed a monologue as I was
> too tongue-tied to respond: "See the way I'm lying flat, that is what I want
> you to do when you go to the Governor of your State, Adams Oshiomole. You
> will grab his leg and tell him you have come to solicit his help for a
> Ministerial appointment in Buhari's cabinet. Please, don't go empty handed
> o; not necessarily cash, just buy like a few cartons of champagnes. If his
> Madam is around, make sure you bend almost double when greeting her, lest
> you're accused of arrogance!.."
> I remained funereally silent. My friend was not done yet. He continued to
> soliloquise: "When you leave Oshiomhole, go quickly to see your man, Ogbeni
> Rauf Aregbesola in the State of Osun because you never know who God may use
> to make this dream a reality. Remember to repeat the same prostration when
> you get to Osogbo. Since Alhaji does not like alcohol, you may have to carry
> bundles of white fabric along. " I could see that that the self-appointed
> consultant had it all worked out already and in effortless detail.
> I was too stunned and speechless. He stood up without my prompting him.
> "Those two Governors are very important since your dad came from Edo and
> your mum from Osun. Now to cap it up, go and see Asiwaju Bola Tinubu. He is
> your man from way back in your exile days. Please, kneel down and again hold
> his legs and tell him he is the only one who can make this happen… If
> possible roll on the floor for maximum effect…" Wow", I thought internally,
> "the extent to which one should go to bag a government appointment is
> amazingly extraordinary"!
> I cleared my throat. He had spoken enough and given me ample time to fashion
> my response. I thanked him for caring so much. I assured him as much as I
> would want to serve my nation as a patriotic citizen, I know the process a
> bit. Beyond that, all the three influential people he wanted me to meet and
> cajole are not people who expect me to crawl to get anything from them. They
> know I have more self-respect than that and I would lower myself in their
> estimation if I behaved contrary to character and did a quarter of what he
> had suggested. I pointed out that "Governor Oshiomole is my big Brother who
> has shown me love over time. The last time we saw in Zambia, he said he
> would flog me literally if I don't visit home soon. He even wants me to
> launch some of his pet projects across the State because he sees me as an
> Ambassador of Edo State", I started my own sermon.
> "The Constitution of Nigeria stipulates that The President must pick one
> Minister per State. Fairly, I expect the Governors, especially in APC States
> to have party members they want to put forward as Ministers. In fact, I
> don't know how the President would honestly handle some States where there
> are too many heavyweights. A good example is Ekiti State where there is a
> long queue of accomplished citizens including three former Governors, Niyi
> Adebayo, Segun Oni and Kayode Fayemi plus Mr Dele Alake and Mr Femi Falana
> (SAN). There is also Lagos State, where the revered national leader, Chief
> Bola Ahmed Tinubu is expected to determine who gets what on account of his
> humongous contributions to APC. Lagos parades former Governor Babatunde
> Fashola, Rt. Hon. Adeyemi Ikuforiji, Senator Tokunbo Afikuyomi, Senator
> Olorunnimbe Mamora, Senator Ganiyu Solomon, Princess Adenrele
> Adeniran-Ogunsanya, Hon. (Mrs) Abike Dabiri-Erewa, Dr Muiz Banire (SAN),
> Hon. Jumoke Okoya-Thomas, Chief (Mrs) Kemi Nelson and others who worked
> assiduously for the monumental success of APC at both local and national
> levels."
> I continued by telling my audience that "virtually all the States have
> similar challenges. I won't be surprised if this is the main reason it has
> not been easy to complete this selection even now. As much as the President
> would want to appear totally independent, it is pertinent that he does not
> act like he's not grateful to some of his big supporters like some former
> Presidents, Vice Presidents, Lt. General T.Y Danjuma, Governors, former
> Governors and heavy funders of the campaign."
> Thank God, my friends listened with rapt attention. It is at times like this
> that I miss the wise and sagacious head of my friend, Prince Adedamola
> Aderemi at that meeting. He would have politely stepped in and succinctly
> straightened everybody out. Fortunately, my friends seemed to realise I was
> making sense but they still didn't see why I shouldn't fight for it as
> others do, for whatever it is worth. I was not going to add to the existing
> headache, and tell them I would refrain from acting on their laid down
> strategy, so I said I was going to try. We departed on that note and I
> simply carried on with my usual routine.
> I don't know how my name crawled into one of the rumoured Ministerial lists
> but that was the beginning of proper wahala. My phones kept ringing off the
> hook from then. My wife was not spared. I received cvs in droves. Many
> appointed themselves as my Special Assistants or Personal Assistants. Many
> of them I didn't know from anywhere. A few friends living abroad told me
> pointedly that they will return home pronto and work for me. Everywhere I
> turned I was being congratulated. No one listened to my denials. Even as I
> write this, my well-wishers have not given up. They told me they are praying
> and fasting. Someone called me yesterday and said he heard I was in Abuja
> for my screening. I responded that may be the screening is in London where
> I'm trying to convalesce at this moment.
> In my entire life, I've never experienced this type of suffocating pressure.
> While I feel very flattered by all the sensation this has caused, I can
> confirm I now know why men of power can hardly perform unless they managed
> to dodge most of these strident calls and considered wicked. There is
> nothing I have said that makes any sense to the callers. I've been told to
> be positive and live by faith. Yes I'm a believer in God but I'm also a man
> who believes in Destiny. What is more, service to one's fatherland should
> never be an act of desperation. In the fullness of time, you would be called
> upon if needed. And there is so much you can do for your country outside
> power.
> I sincerely do not envy the President. If what I have gone through in my
> little corner is anything to go by, President Buhari definitely needs our
> prayers. I will encourage him to conclude picking his cabinet and move on.
> No matter what he does, it is impossible to please everyone. He is already
> doing fine and should tune up the tempo. May God guide and help him achieve
> his tall dreams for Nigeria.
> Amin.
>
>
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