Tuesday, October 27, 2015

Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Moderator's Caution: Lives Matter

Obi:
To be clear: I did not read your post as if you were attacking m; so need need for clarification. Your arguments about a modernist agenda predicated on a revolution is clear, even if you set off from the premise of an identity that you see in terms of the price it has paid in a dysfunctional modern state project.
  1. On anti-monarchy stand, you are not saying things that some of us did not say in the 1970s. Even a member on this forum created a conference on chieftaincy to counter the growing Marxist-socialist attacks on that institutions. In the alternative constitution by Osoba and Usman, they edited out all the monarchs, and united the poor, irrespective of their ethnicities. I have lost the document.
  2. One essay that is needed is on the units of governance in Nigeria. I think the Western model is inadequate to explain us, so invoking the US is one part of the story. Dr. Abimbola of Howard once gave a staggering no. That no., ranging from motor park chairmen to Aso Rock, has all sorts of agenda that connect politics to pockets.
  3. You do not factor process into you arguments, that is, how system evolves over time to get to a point where a new set of reforms have to begin. If the military will never come back again, this is an achievement, and the next battle is to fight the politicians, and then fight for accountability. A system is a set of structure and institutions and they just don't change. 
  4. I don't do ethnicity. Alas! I do Pan-Africanism. My own politics is even far more expansive than the Nigeria-oriented one. I want the unity of all Africans so that one person can wake up at Enugu and work in the Gambia. This is my own vision. In my own vision, being Akan or Kikuyu will not matter much in terms of mobility and empowerment.
  5. I have been involved in several peace missions, and you do not pray to see wars and conflicts. Indeed, we must pray that our people, who have suffered enough, should not suffer anymore. You invoked the death of 3 million Igbo. Is that no. not enough? Not a single person should die for an outcome that is unpredictable.
  6. My own position, which I am not willing to give up, is about peace, development, empowerment of the poor. I do not see the difference between a poor Kanuri and a poor Igbo, both such-changed in state projects that don't work. Rather, I want the poor Kanuri and the poor Igbo to be in the same movement for change, not fragmented by religion or ethnicity. 
My mission in devoting 4 hours to this USA-Africa Dialogue everyday is for a platform of commonality to emerge. Many postings have brought to me sadness, deep sadness, as we, as Diasporan intellectuals, must frame the project of the nation-state in ways that our concerns are united by objectives that will move Africa forward.

Best.

From: Rex Marinus <rexmarinus@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: dialogue <USAAfricaDialogue@googlegroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 at 2:55 PM
To: dialogue <USAAfricaDialogue@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Moderator's Caution: Lives Matter

I keep using the "neither"/"or" here, and I assure you it is my keyboard jumping the "n." I feel a slight guilt only because I get a little pontificatory myself with my own students when they say or write "different than." And this is my own way of saying, that I understand even the limits of polemics. It will always feel a little too general. Even though this is a direct response to Professor Falola, I should not let it be thought that I think him a fascist or monarchist, as a result of the possibly general sweep of my argument, or that I think Yoruba culture generally backward, because of my example of the Ooni's palace slave. On the other hand, I'd often like to quote one memorable thing the ate Professor Ade Obayemi once said to me in an interview at his office that I always find apt: "we cannot close our eyes and see the past, or even the future. We must look at them steadily." We need to ask ourselves the meaning of the past. I think that there are a great many things of great worth that we can keep of ourselves and of our past, but there are also things that limit must from making the great expeditionary leap, and one of those things is the "ethnic monarchies" as Bode has described them.
Obi Nwakanma






From: rexmarinus@hotmail.com
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Moderator's Caution: Lives Matter
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 17:38:50 +0000

Dear Professor Falola:
With due regard to the sentiments that you have reflected here, I'd like to ask you that very simple question that Soyinka asked some nearly two decades ago "when is a nation"? Humane scholarship, as I understand it, permits us to ask the hard and difficult questions, and to give real ambit to our most enlightened conscience. So, let me draw an analogy with some of our experiences here: because the Ku Klux Klan has history and is sacred to some people,  must we therefore never question, or attempt to organize in areas where they hold sway, because it would offend those who find the KKK an important part of their "culture" and "heritage"? Better still, you realize that the foundation of the Nazi idea and of Mussolini's exactly asks us to do very exactly what you have proposed, almost inadvertently? And I'm certain you neither identify with Nazism or Fascism ideologically, although its local variety seems to escape your scrutiny, it seems to me, in the penumbra of  the protective sheets which you now advocate we must wear around the critique of the modern nation in Nigeria.

Nations have never been built on these terms. Every right we enjoy today, in the comforts of our current location was gained by blood and sacrifice; by people who were insistent on breaking down the barriers you want us to protect/preserve in Nigeria. It did not come by easy acquiesence.  If they had followed your thinking, sir, you would never mount the distinguished chair you sit upon quite easily and legitimately today in Austin, Texas. There will certainly be no interest in African history in those places. Our particular identities do not foreclose, and need not detain us to the past. Let me give a particularly recent example about why we must not be sucked into the defence of these strange institutions. I do not know if you agree with image of the just dead Ooni of Ife, with his foot resting on his court or ritual slave, who traveled with him t Harvard. As a sign of culture and indication of majesty, the slave knelt before Ooni Olubuse as he sat, while he was a guest of a conference on African Religions in Harvard about five years or so ago. It was a horrifying scene, but there are those who defend it as tradition.

If we are unwilling to defend the constitution that grants equality between the Ooni and his ritual slave, by placing limits which it does not place on the individual, simply on the premise that it questions the Ooni, at what point do we then stop talking about the travesty called Nigeria? Why should e worry that corruption exists? Because everytime the Nigerian intellectual talks about democracy, and still defends the rights of the monarchy, they defend a corrupt order. They are either unclear about the conceptual meaning and significance of the terms they use, or they are just being hypocritical. The trouble in Nigeria has remained the limits we are prepared to place on its development as a modern, progressive state; the extreme disregard of its laws by the self-interested elite, and the complicity of the intellectuals who have mostly been willing tools, because they tolerate, accommodate, and perpetuate the most conservative and tyrannical order on that society, sometimes of the lamest excuses: "it is too dangerous to shift the apple carts," we say.

 My favorite Nigeria is also the Onigbongbo model. Anybody who likes to go and prostrate to Onigbongbo has the supreme rights. But whoever wants to drink beer in front of the mosque should be free to do so, for as long as it is not inside the mosque. It should neither the business of the imam or the Onigbongbo to decree on whether beer is to be sold or not. If they as much as attempt to disrupt the common life of those who choose to drink beer either in Onigbongo or in Sokoto, the Federal government has the duty and the obligation under our laws to protect the secular convictions of citizens, whether they have lived in Onigbongbo all their lives, or just came to town by bus, that night. It should not matter because that is the basis of our rule of law. When we become selective on which law to defend, or place abstract limits on the rights already guaranteed the citizen, we give leverage to disorder, and to tyranny. I salute you, professor.
Obi Nwakanma



From: toyinfalola@austin.utexas.edu
To: USAAfricaDialogue@googlegroups.com
Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Moderator's Caution: Lives Matter
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 13:09:01 +0000

Scholars:

As you make your arguments, be aware that statements that can generate violence and loss of lives are outside the bounds of scholarly engagements and individual rights. Indeed, such statements are irresponsible. Citizenship has its limits. Freedom has its limits. Rights are not limitless.

We cannot be in the comfort of our relocated spaces and not know that we have our brothers and sisters in  Enugu, Sokoto, Makurdi,  Ibadan and other places whose lives deserve to be protected.

Localism, irrespective of one's "federalist" position, remains powerful in Africa. You cannot wish away overnight, Zulu identity, even if we make arguments that it was a 19th century creation. Igbo, Yoruba etc. as presently constituted as political identities have not always been with us. But you can no longer wish them away overnight. I cannot go to Benue State and be disrespectful to the Idoma because of modernist arguments.

I cannot walk to Sokoto and say that the Sultan is not important, and his right to the Sokoto throne qualifies me to set up what the Sultan will regard as a threat to his throne. There is a history to his throne, and there may be a history to mine as well, but wisdom means that I must be careful as I may not even have the number to fight the Sultan.

I am not from Ile-Ife, but I cannot walk to Ife to ask them not to accord respect and dignity to their Ooni. Who am I? Citizenship in most African countries remain connected to places of birth, and I am sure that it will not always be so in the years ahead. You and I do not know when. 

Meanwhile, we must protect lives, and not be talking about death to people, in so casual a manner.

A mob can be generated within minutes in many places, and the police and army cannot do that much to protect lives, usually of the poor. 

Onigbogbo is my favorite joint in Nigeria. I was there last week. Here is the model that works, Muslims and Christians, poor and not so poor, Tiv, Igbo and Yoruba living their lives without many of the arguments we make here. My joint is actually in front of the palace of the Onigbongbo. Indeed, after the Friday mosque, some Muslims joined us to drink beer. The Onigbongbo people see lives differently from the way some of the scholars see things.

Exercise caution. 

Life is sacrosanct. One life should not be lost because of temporary political exigencies in a country that was cobbled together and where secular institutions remain either weak or not functioning well.

CAUTION

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