With eloquently crafted Oxford English, you narrated below that you met Alfred Papapreye Diete-Spiff, the former Governor of Rivers State and even Chief Justice of Rivers State but none of them spoke to you about Biafra or abandoned properties. I wonder why a Biafran hugging liberal like you did not seize the opportunity of your association with the aforementioned friends of yours to discuss abandoned properties of the Igbo in Port Harcourt.
In your item 2, you exclaimed, "Yes indeed, the Nazis looted Jewish property," as if I had disputed it. What I have cautioned you not to do is to equate the persecution of the Jews in Europe, up to the end of World War II, with the fate of the Igbo in the Nigerian civil war. Only a Biafran extremist will equate Igbo situation in Nigeria to pre-World War II situation of the Jews in Europe.
In the same item 2 you wrote, "And when it comes to Biafra, IBK would probably be the first to say that 1981-1984, I have been soaked and marinated in Biafra propaganda." The impression I get from reading the foregoing is that you were in Nigeria, Rivers State, between 1981 and 1984. If that is true, it means that your statement in item 1 (Many different people pointed out some of these houses and others of impeccable integrity mentioned the facticity of allegedly abandoned properties) was an Igbo folklore developed from their myths on the civil war. By 1981 when you arrived in Nigeria Igbo had fully been re-integrated into Nigeria after the war that ended on January 15, 1970. The vice President of Nigeria was Dr Alex Ekwueme and the Speaker of the House was Edwin Ume-Ezeoke. Igbo were in all parts of Nigeria in large numbers. Your informants on abandoned properties probably saw you as a semi-arian race and sold the folklore to you with the intention of attracting your sympathy and handouts of money. Your mission in Port Harcourt was not to investigate thirteen years old abandoned Igbo properties and there was no reason for anyone to come and complain to you about his/her abandoned properties unless he/she could get some pecuniary gains from you. It is amusing to read from you that oppressed, persecuted, marginalised and unjustly treated could be allowed by their oppressors and persecutors to acquire properties. Very soon, you will say Palestinians are acquiring properties, not in Sadam's Iraq but, in Netanyahu's Israel.
As if the Igbo must sing the same song as the Scots and Catalans, you asked, "What is the motivation of Scots and Catalans?" If the Scots and Catalans sing, Divided we stand, United we fall to the United Kingdom and Spain respectively, why must Igbo sing the same song to Nigeria? Are you saying everything done by the Caucasians is good and should be copied by Africans? Intoxicated with the wine of every man gotta a right to determine his own destiny, you want every village in Nigeria to be a country because in Sierra Leone, a tree makes a forest!! I disagree with you.
S.Kadiri
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 14:32:19 -0800
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Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Today's Quote
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In your item 2, you exclaimed, "Yes indeed, the Nazis looted Jewish property," as if I had disputed it. What I have cautioned you not to do is to equate the persecution of the Jews in Europe, up to the end of World War II, with the fate of the Igbo in the Nigerian civil war. Only a Biafran extremist will equate Igbo situation in Nigeria to pre-World War II situation of the Jews in Europe.
In the same item 2 you wrote, "And when it comes to Biafra, IBK would probably be the first to say that 1981-1984, I have been soaked and marinated in Biafra propaganda." The impression I get from reading the foregoing is that you were in Nigeria, Rivers State, between 1981 and 1984. If that is true, it means that your statement in item 1 (Many different people pointed out some of these houses and others of impeccable integrity mentioned the facticity of allegedly abandoned properties) was an Igbo folklore developed from their myths on the civil war. By 1981 when you arrived in Nigeria Igbo had fully been re-integrated into Nigeria after the war that ended on January 15, 1970. The vice President of Nigeria was Dr Alex Ekwueme and the Speaker of the House was Edwin Ume-Ezeoke. Igbo were in all parts of Nigeria in large numbers. Your informants on abandoned properties probably saw you as a semi-arian race and sold the folklore to you with the intention of attracting your sympathy and handouts of money. Your mission in Port Harcourt was not to investigate thirteen years old abandoned Igbo properties and there was no reason for anyone to come and complain to you about his/her abandoned properties unless he/she could get some pecuniary gains from you. It is amusing to read from you that oppressed, persecuted, marginalised and unjustly treated could be allowed by their oppressors and persecutors to acquire properties. Very soon, you will say Palestinians are acquiring properties, not in Sadam's Iraq but, in Netanyahu's Israel.
As if the Igbo must sing the same song as the Scots and Catalans, you asked, "What is the motivation of Scots and Catalans?" If the Scots and Catalans sing, Divided we stand, United we fall to the United Kingdom and Spain respectively, why must Igbo sing the same song to Nigeria? Are you saying everything done by the Caucasians is good and should be copied by Africans? Intoxicated with the wine of every man gotta a right to determine his own destiny, you want every village in Nigeria to be a country because in Sierra Leone, a tree makes a forest!! I disagree with you.
S.Kadiri
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 14:32:19 -0800
From: corneliushamelberg@gmail.com
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Today's Quote
Dear Ogbeni Kadiri,
You know that I don't doubt or have any reason to doubt your absolute honesty, integrity, sincerity, high moral ground or that your points of view are partly informed by your own experience of the Biafra War and that you would not like to see a repeat of either the Biafran death toll, some death by starvation or more Federal military suffering.
To give an extreme example, I could say that your own bitter experience of the Bifara war could be akin to that of Sa'd ibn Mu'adh who had been badly wounded (by his Jewish cousins) at the Battle of Khyber - except that I'm sure that with your Biafran countrymen you would be more magnanimous. And it was this man Sa'd ibn Mu'adh that the Prophet of Islam (s.a.w.) asked – after the Muslim warriors had been victorious, "What shall we do with these Jews? (These Jewish prisoners of war?) and Sa'd, still in pain, recommended the following fate for the defeated Jews of Kyhber, the Banu Qurayza: "Slaughter the males and sell the female into slavery "
I know for a fact that you wouldn't pass such a judgment on a vanquished Biafra people circa 1970…
I too subscribe to not just the notion of tawhid but the principle of unity generally as in 2000 Blacks got to be free
Yes, I do have my own positions about the Second World War, about various Liberation movements in Africa, South America and other parts of the world and very strong positions about Middle East politics too. And when it comes to Biafra, IBK would probably be the first to say that 1981-1984 I have been soaked and marinated in Biafra propaganda. But I was soaked and marinated long before that in fact at the behest of Professor Eldred Durosimi Jones we were among the first people to sign letters of protest when his friend Wole Soyinka was detained by the Federal authorities …
Both of us must admit that the Nigerian scenario is very different today from what it was such as the pogroms of Igbos in Northern Nigeria before the 30th May, 1967, when the secession of Biafra was declared . Now you keep on saying that the pro-Biafra people's main motives are based on (your words) claims "that Igbos are persecuted, oppressed, marginalised and unjustly treated in Nigeria." This should not get too long but I can give you many examples of people who are "persecuted, oppressed, marginalised and unjustly treated "but nevertheless "have been able to acquire properties" e.g. in what was Saddam's Iraq?
Your problem is that you seem to think that if that is the only motive for Biafrans wanting their Biafra that is enough reason for them not to expect that their hard earned properties bank accounts etc. should be illegally seized by the remnant Federal Republic of Nigeria. I come to this conclusion as the answer to your rhetorical question "Are the liberal populists not becoming unreasonable to think that if the Igbos secede because of injustice, they will get justice over acquired properties in Nigeria after secession?"
What is the motivation of the Scots and the Catalans?
And what pray, would be the motivation for the Oduduwa secessionists wanting their own Yoruba Republic or Kingdom apart from wanting to establish a great country or is the song that begins
" Every man gotta right to decide his own destiny,
And in this judgement there is no partiality…"
Only an idle child's nursey rhyme?
I haven't read the Swedish papers for the past two days and must do so now.
By the way my son Ola has written a preface to the Swedish edition of Assata Shakur's autobiography. Time has passed: he started school at Ahoada, in Nigeria.
Talk to you later.
Menahem.
We Sweden
On Saturday, 21 November 2015 20:12:29 UTC+1, ogunlakaiye wrote:
Many different people pointed out some of these houses and others of impeccable integrity mentioned the facticity of allegedly abandoned properties. I don't feel called upon to reveal their names. In my first week in Nigeria, I had dinner with the former Governor of Rivers state Alfred Papapreye Diete-Spiff at his residence, but we did not speak about Biafra and I did not return to visit him because I saw some nice mademoiselles at his residence and as if by precognition did not wanting to get even remotely involved or to get too close to any of them or their ogas, so that later when things go wrong my ass does not becomes grass. . Nor did the Chief Justice of Rivers State who I met the first week and finally two days before I felt Nigeria ever breathe the word Biafra in my ear. In London, Port Harcourt, Owerri, Aba and Umuahia I met and stayed with other Ogas who were much closer to Biafra…
Yes indeed, the Nazis looted Jewish property. Now please stop being pompous and overly self-righteous. Even if you don't know any better, I know that in saying that in no way was it meant to be "an extreme belittlement of the Jewish sufferings in Nazi Europe and over-exaggeration of Igbo sufferings during the civil war in Nigeria to equate the two un-identical events in history as one." By the way in 1969 someone looted a painting worth £15,000 Sterling belonging to me and my Better Half ( I wrote to Professor Simon Ottenberg about this a few years ago )
You know that I don't doubt or have any reason to doubt your absolute honesty, integrity, sincerity, high moral ground or that your points of view are partly informed by your own experience of the Biafra War and that you would not like to see a repeat of either the Biafran death toll, some death by starvation or more Federal military suffering.
To give an extreme example, I could say that your own bitter experience of the Bifara war could be akin to that of Sa'd ibn Mu'adh who had been badly wounded (by his Jewish cousins) at the Battle of Khyber - except that I'm sure that with your Biafran countrymen you would be more magnanimous. And it was this man Sa'd ibn Mu'adh that the Prophet of Islam (s.a.w.) asked – after the Muslim warriors had been victorious, "What shall we do with these Jews? (These Jewish prisoners of war?) and Sa'd, still in pain, recommended the following fate for the defeated Jews of Kyhber, the Banu Qurayza: "Slaughter the males and sell the female into slavery "
I know for a fact that you wouldn't pass such a judgment on a vanquished Biafra people circa 1970…
I too subscribe to not just the notion of tawhid but the principle of unity generally as in 2000 Blacks got to be free
Yes, I do have my own positions about the Second World War, about various Liberation movements in Africa, South America and other parts of the world and very strong positions about Middle East politics too. And when it comes to Biafra, IBK would probably be the first to say that 1981-1984 I have been soaked and marinated in Biafra propaganda. But I was soaked and marinated long before that in fact at the behest of Professor Eldred Durosimi Jones we were among the first people to sign letters of protest when his friend Wole Soyinka was detained by the Federal authorities …
Both of us must admit that the Nigerian scenario is very different today from what it was such as the pogroms of Igbos in Northern Nigeria before the 30th May, 1967, when the secession of Biafra was declared . Now you keep on saying that the pro-Biafra people's main motives are based on (your words) claims "that Igbos are persecuted, oppressed, marginalised and unjustly treated in Nigeria." This should not get too long but I can give you many examples of people who are "persecuted, oppressed, marginalised and unjustly treated "but nevertheless "have been able to acquire properties" e.g. in what was Saddam's Iraq?
Your problem is that you seem to think that if that is the only motive for Biafrans wanting their Biafra that is enough reason for them not to expect that their hard earned properties bank accounts etc. should be illegally seized by the remnant Federal Republic of Nigeria. I come to this conclusion as the answer to your rhetorical question "Are the liberal populists not becoming unreasonable to think that if the Igbos secede because of injustice, they will get justice over acquired properties in Nigeria after secession?"
What is the motivation of the Scots and the Catalans?
And what pray, would be the motivation for the Oduduwa secessionists wanting their own Yoruba Republic or Kingdom apart from wanting to establish a great country or is the song that begins
" Every man gotta right to decide his own destiny,
And in this judgement there is no partiality…"
Only an idle child's nursey rhyme?
I haven't read the Swedish papers for the past two days and must do so now.
By the way my son Ola has written a preface to the Swedish edition of Assata Shakur's autobiography. Time has passed: he started school at Ahoada, in Nigeria.
Talk to you later.
Menahem.
We Sweden
On Saturday, 21 November 2015 20:12:29 UTC+1, ogunlakaiye wrote:
...Menahem Hamelberg,
I am not anti-Biafra and I do not hate those claiming to be one but I am opposed to the motives being adduced for the demand to excise the Igbo from Nigeria to become Biafra. After the civil war, Igbo people had fully been integrated into Nigeria and they have participated, with other ethnic groups of Nigeria, in the corrupt governments of the country. The only position a person of Igbo ethnic language is yet to hold in Nigeria is the presidency. Therefore, I am against flat-footed populists craving the excise of Igbo from Nigeria on the ground that Igbos are persecuted, oppressed, marginalised and unjustly treated in Nigeria. While the flatfooted populists keep on pressing their venomous snake kisses on the cheeks of the Igbo, they asked of what would be the legal status of properties owned by persecuted, oppressed, marginalised and unjustly treated Igbos in various parts of Nigeria, should Biafra come into being. Question which the liberal populists should answer is, how could persecuted, oppressed, marginalised and unjustly treated Igbos in Nigeria have been able to acquire properties? Are the liberal populists not becoming unreasonable to think that if the Igbos secede because of injustice, they will get justice over acquired properties in Nigeria after secession?
Menahem Hamelberg previously wrote, "It's the first piece of news that I saw first-hand in my first week in Port Harcourt: Igbo owned houses were pointed out to me that had been allegedly abandoned and therefore auctioned away at Five Naira a piece. THE NAZIS COMMITTED SIMILAR CRIMES SUCH AS THE LOOTING OF JEWISH PROPERTY." Here, you have climbed the tree beyond the leaves and consequently have to fall down. Who pointed out Igbo owned houses that had allegedly been abandoned and therefore auctioned at Five Naira a piece? Was your informant an Igbo, Ijaw, or Ogoni? How reliable was your informant? Were you present when the auction took place? You have elongated falsehood to its elastic breaking point!!
The Nigerian civil war was fought to keep the nation one and not to exterminate the Igbo people. The Nigerian situation could not be compared to Nazi Europe. Hence, it is an extreme belittlement of the Jewish sufferings in Nazi Europe and over-exaggeration of Igbo sufferings during the civil war in Nigeria to equate the two un-identical events in history as one. Right from 1925/26, Adolf Hitler had propagated in his Mein Kampf that 'One blood demands one Reich.' His intention to exterminate the Jews was known to other European countries that shared similar ideas about the Jews. Hatred against the Jews in Europe pre-dated Hitler. Nigeria is the only country in the world that has ever fought a war under the supervision of International Observers who testified that the Nigerian forces never perpetrated genocide against the Igbo.
Igbos also had shops, you asserted, and then went on to ask: or did they move their shops, carted them off in wheelbarrows...? War began on July 6, 1967 and by May 1968 Port Harcourt was captured. From May 30, 1967, Gowon had announced land and sea blockade of the then Biafra, an action which made influx of goods and commodities scarce in Port Harcourt. Shops in Port Harcourt by the time it was captured were already empty. You should also understand that shops are parts of buildings which are not moveable, even though articles for sales could be moved. On the assumed abandoned houses which I said the owners could reclaim on presenting valid documents of ownership, Menahem Hamelberg countered me with questions. Hear him, "Suppose the papers had been burned (arson) or had otherwise disappeared? Or the exercise was being conducted in an atmosphere of fear? You think that it's justice that a man has to re-buy his own house/houses at an auction?" A war refugee fleeing from Port Harcourt could not have left documents attributing the ownership of his house(s) behind in as much as he hoped to return after the war. However, it was reported that fleeing Igbo from Port Harcourt deliberately destroyed their houses because they did not hope to return there and they did not want them to fall into the hands of indigenous Port Harcourt's tribe. One cannot lay claim to a house or property without valid documents to attest to ownership. Legal document of ownership is a must requirement, if more than a person are claiming ownership of the same property. As for the hypothetic question of if 'the whole exercise was being conducted in an atmosphere of fear' I think it is unjust to insinuate such a scenario. Why should one be guessing about if there was atmosphere of fear in what happened after the war 45 years ago when there are clear cut evidence that the war ended in the spirit of no victor no vanquish. If there was such fear, Igbos would not have been in such a large numbers throughout Nigeria as they are today. That fear would have restricted them to the Igbo ethnic territory. My answer to the last question of if it is justice for a man to re-buy his own house(s) at an auction depends on the reasons for auctioning. If the house is being auctioned as abandoned by the authorities, partly because the owner has no valid documents of ownership and partly because of preventing environmental dilapidation in the city, it is justice for a man to re-buy his presumed property. The house can be auctioned too as a debt recovering exercise which does not exclude the house owner from bidding.Lastly, you mentioned your grandfather's problem in Sierra Leone over a leased land on which he had erected a house and after the expiration of the lease contract, the owner of the land asked him to remove his house. In Yoruba adage, if you name yourself Kolawole (Pack-Wealth-Into-The-House) because you rent a house, when the landlord terminates your tenement, your name changes to Kolajade (Pack-Wealth-Outside). Land just like sun, air, rain and water is a collective property of all the inhabitants in a community. No individual should own a piece of land as land grabbers have done throughout the world. So far majority of global landless are lucky that no device has been discovered to cork air into bottles otherwise land owners would have been air owners and the rest of us would have been prevented from breathing. Nigeria belongs to all Nigerians and if any ethnic group secedes out of Nigeria the group should consequently Pack-Their-Wealth-Outside Nigeria. S.Kadiri
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 08:42:05 -0800
From: cornelius...@gmail.com
To: usaafric...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Today's QuoteDear IBK,
I'm not playing to any gallery. Which gallery? Certainly not the gallery of USA-Africa series jurors.
Ogbeni Kadiri might be very pleased with himself and and very happy with you praising the usual venom in his hate-filled drivel and all the mucous in his anti-Biafra spittle as nothing less than "cool factual morning dew"
Some Lawyers are liars and some liars are lawyers. Half-truths are said to be complete lies. Do you agree? I am not deceived. I know that it's your profession, the way you make your daily bread, oftimes defending the wicked.
And what's this about "Half-Yoruba"? A person is either Yoruba or not. Next, on the Biafra question someone will be telling us about that improbable creature Mr. In-Between, the perfect equilibrium of being "Half-Yoruba & Half-Igbo", but even that cannot guarantee neutrality when it comes to standing up for the truth (the whole truth and nothing but the truth).
In my world you either are or you are not. No half anything and no Frank Yerby Octroons. I can see that like Ogbeni Kadiri you are also a stickler for definitions, this time the genetic and the cultural in the big world music. But this is not a time for half-truths, and talking about purgatory I notice that your Pape says that even atheists are redeemed by their good works.
You talk about "all the Igbo who genuinely owned properties in Port Harcourt" whilst Ogbeni Kadiri says that "Before the Federal forces captured Port Harcourt in May 1968, Igbo people in the town fled with all their moveable trade-wares called businesses"
Ogbeni Kadiri, Igbos also had shops or did they move their shops, carted them off in wheelbarrows, as part of "their moveable trade-wares called businesses" so that you could add with unchallenged impunity that "and as such, there were no *Igbo businesses* to confiscate."?
I have not taken "the trouble to research issues in-depth" but I take Sam Mbakwe's peoples' word about what I have stated. If I were Ogbeni Kadiri, just like him I would ask you to produce the documentary evidence," the case file number, name of presiding judge and court" etc. - but even that would not be enough for me to accept your "I rest my case" when so many houses were auctioned off.
As to identity politics, Ogbeni Kadiri exonerates Gowon on the basis of " he married his Igbo wife":
"Truly, Gowon might have been a military dictator but he was the most humble military ruler Nigeria has ever had. During the war, he married his Igbo wife, Victoria Edith Ike Okongwu"…etc ( Ogbeni Kadiri)Big deal, so Gowon married an Igbo. And the Prophet of Islam ( S.A.W.) married a Jew . This did not save the Jews of Khyber ...My last question goes to Ogbeni Kadiri and he can retain you as his solicitor and advocate if it so pleases him.He stated that "In fact, if any house was illegally declared abandoned, the owner had the option of going to court with a proper documents of ownership to reclaim his/her house. A house cannot be confiscated from a ghost owner but it can be declared abandoned by the authorities and be compulsorily administered under the law."
My questions: Suppose the papers had been burned (arson) or had otherwise disappeared? Or the whole exercise was being conducted in an atmosphere of fear? You think that it's justice that a man has to re-buy his own house/ houses at an auction?
BTW, I was last in Freetown and only for ten days in 1970. I have often toyed with the idea of travelling to Freetown to reclaim some of my little empire of coconut trees and sand, but I know that I would get into a whole lot of trouble and that someone (maybe some politicians have already erected their mansions on my beach land, so if it's your money or your life, I will always choose my life and if it's your money or your wife, I will always choose my wife…
And there you have it - the Igbo man having to choose between his life and claim his looted property in very dangerous circumstances, chooses life
By the way that move you house from my land happened to my grandfather Louis Hamelberg who had built his house at Fort Street, Tower Hill, the highest point in Central Freetown. I believe the lease for the land was up and the landowner told him that he wanted his land back and for Louis to kindly move his house from the land … or? Or? OR Things Fall Apart...
Oh justice!
Cornelius
After the Sabbath, I'm going to make a couple of definitive statements about the terrorism situation and Sweden here:
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On Friday, 20 November 2015 14:45:05 UTC+1, ibk wrote:My dear half Yoruba and quarter Jewish Menahem Hammelberg of Freetown,You are playing to the gallery with a great deal of ignorance and propaganda that you package as facts. Please take the trouble to research issues in-depth before you jump with both legs into hungry crocodile infested shallow river of Biafra. Half of what you hear the Biafrans say is propaganda, a quarter are outright lies, and the last quarter hover between the lies and the propaganda.Salimonu Kadiri,Thank you for factually destroying the house of lies built with Biafran spit with your cool factual morning dew. Sam Mbakwe came to prominence after the civil war in January 1970 as the lawyer who pleaded the Igbo cause and represented almost all the Igbo who genuinely owned properties in Port Harcourt and he either got compensation for their properties or he got the properties back.For his exertions he became the first civilian Governor of Imo State.Let the gullible continue to lap up lies! They shall be confronted by the truth and the truth if they love the truth shall set them free. For those who love lies, they will remain in perpetual damnation and end in purgatory.Cheers.IBKOn 19 November 2015 at 21:00, Salimonu Kadiri <ogunl...@hotmail.com> wrote:Menahem Hamelberg, wearing snakes as necklaces to hugg Igbo with lies is not a demonstration of love. Mildly stated, it is hypocrisy and worst, it is wicked. That is my understanding of the following written by you, "The confiscation of Igbo assets in Port Harcourt - more precisely the confiscation of Igbo-owned businesses, houses and other properties in Port Harcourt which were said to have been 'abandoned' and therefore auctioned away at FIVE NAIRA a piece..." The dangerous kiss of Igbo with lies contains three unrelated key words - confiscation, abandoned and auctioned. Before the Federal forces captured Port Harcourt in May 1968, Igbo people in the town fled with all their moveable trade-wares called businesses and as such, there were no *Igbo businesses* to confiscate. Were houses belonging to Igbo confiscated in Port Harcourt after the war? The answer is capital NO. In Port Harcourt, houses were not owned collectively by Igbo but individually. Therefore, individual Igbo house owner in Port Harcourt who did not return to claim his/her house after the war had such house declared, abandoned. The then Rivers State government which included present day Bayelsa State, did not want abandoned houses to dilapidate and therefore decided to sell them on auctions at affordable price of, as you put it, FIVE NAIRA to the inhabitants of Port Harcourt. Igbo were not excluded from partaking in the biddings for the houses. That no Igbo person came forward to claim the houses could be that their owners had died during the war. In fact, if any house was illegally declared abandoned, the owner had the option of going to court with a proper documents of ownership to reclaim his/her house. A house cannot be confiscated from a ghost owner but it can be declared abandoned by the authorities and be compulsorily administered under the law.As for your speculation about *the spectre of looting Igbo-owned assets and properties located outside of Igboland* after Biafra might have been born, I find this incongruent to commonsense because the reasons given by the Igbo for seeking a sovereign state of Biafra out of Nigeria are that they, the Igbo, are discriminated, persecuted, oppressed and marginalised in Nigeria. Under these political and economic conditions that the Igbo say they are fleeing from in Nigeria, they should not and could not have acquired any assets or properties in Nigeria to be looted after their departures. It is just obvious that if the Igbo have Biafra as their motherland, they should suck the breasts of mother Biafra and not the breasts of mother Nigeria. So the question to your pal about what becomes of Igbo properties in Nigeria after the birth of Biafra is extravagant and unnecessary. Since you claimed that your question was "motivated by the unconstitutional and shameful theft by the Yakubu Gowon dictatorship of the private property of some of his fellow citizens," I will be very grateful, if you can inform me about the unconstitutional and shameful theft of private properties of Nigerians perpetrated by Yakubu Gowon. Truly, Gowon might have been a military dictator but he was the most humble military ruler Nigeria has ever had. During the war, he married his Igbo wife, Victoria Edith Ike Okongwu, with whom he had a son, Musa Jack Ngonadi Gowon. When Gowon was overthrown in 1975, the wife relocated to USA with the son, where she was reported to have diedlater, while Gowon was granted asylum in the UK. Probably, you are not an extremist but your views below, to me, are immoderate.S.Kadiri
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 10:00:40 -0800
From: cornelius...@gmail.com
To: usaafric...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Today's QuoteLord Anunoby,
You are on target: Bullseye: my first question is "motivated by the unconstitutional and shameful theft by the Yakubu Gowon dictatorship of the private property of some of his fellow citizens".
"They" might still be celebrating what they believe was "
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