Joe Attueyi:
You too have probably joined me in going from bad to worse?
Please come with me....
Just yesterday, you wrote that I have of recent gone "quiet", I guess because you feel that I had become disenchanted with the PMB administration, but didn't wish to convey it publicly.. Now, you say that I have "gone nuclear" since INEC announcements...apparently because I was not announced (as you prayed with me) as INEC Chairman?
Which is which, Pastor Joe?
Moving on now to your submission, below,
The two controlling phrases in the sentence on ministers without portfolio are "...purely presidential..." and "..uncommon.."
First, "uncommon" does not mean "impossible" or "never done." For one, with people like Akpabio, Nigeria is an "uncommon country!" Secondly, Nigeria's system is NOT purely presidential like the United Stnates, otherwise its Constitution would NOT specify one minister per state.....or else the United States would have 50 MINISTERS, and I bet you it too would be looking for seats, benches and portfolios for them too! Our Constitution took the Federal Character sentiment too far by specifying one minister per state - it was also not far-sighted in thinking of future expansion of states? - and could have specified a cluster of contiguous states (which we now call "geo-political zones") not exceeding eight or ten. In these days of lean finances, carrying anywhere near 36 ministers is ridiculous, particularly since with local governments, state governments and legislatures and federal legislatures (Senate and House), the People have enough REPRESENTATION on a state-basis.
The first Cabinet of the US began with 4 persons (until first President Washington), but ever since that number has been up and down, but now under President Obama, in addition to Vice-President Biden, there are 15 of them called Secretaries who are Heads of designated Government Offices:
1. Secretary of State
2. Secretary of the Treasury
3. Secretary of Defense
4. Attorney General
5. Secretary of the Interior
6. Secretary of Agriculture
7. Secretary of Commerce
8. Secretary of Labor
9. Secretary of Health and Human Services
10. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development
11. Secretary of Transportation
12. Secretary of Energy
13. Secretary of Education
14. Secretary of Veterans Affairs
15. Secretary of Homeland Security
If you notice what I sent out earlier, our 1999 Nigeria Constitution specifies by name ONLY five "ministers" to the President:
- the Vice-President (who shall be Chairman of the National Economic Council, Deputy Chairman of Council of State, National Defence Council and National Security Council)
- the Attorney General (who shall be a Member of the Council of State (the only sitting Minister to do so), the Federal Judicial Service Commission of the Federation and also of the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja)
- Minister of Defence (who shall be a Member of the National Defence Council and National Security Council)
- Minister of Interior (who shall be a Member of the National Security Council)
- Minister of Foreign Affairs (who shall be a Member of the National Security Council)
All others can therefore be assigned COMPLETELY to the discretion of the President...or nothing at all...
Clearly, PMB is leaning (no pun intended) to no more than 16-20 ministries total, around half of the number of ministers un-mercifully required by the Constitution, and substantially less than the 28 or so under GEJ and previous administrations. I trust that they will have a few of the following (eighteen to twenty-one), but we shall see:
S/N Ministry
1 Energy & Environment
2 Finance
3 Trade and Investment
4 Agriculture & Water Resources
5 FCT
6 Infrastructure
7 Attorney General and Justice
8 National Orientation, Culture and Tourism ========================> Remove and make a Department
9 Education, Science and Technology
10 Foreign Affairs & International Cooperation
11 Health & Human Services
12 Information and Communications
13 Labour and Productivity
14 Solid Mineral Industries
15 Special Territories
16 Defence & National Security
17 National Planning
18 Transport ===============================> To Infrastructure
19 Women Affairs
20 Youth & Sports ===========================> Health and Human Services
21 Land, Housing & Urban Development
As you can see, I am not interesting in your caterwauling - and all your belly-aching "gotcha" of the PMB administration, but rather how to move the nation forward. I am also reminded of all the hue and cry that attended President Obama when he began his Presidency following President Bush, when he stuck to his guns as he did his stimulus package, etc......and he pulled the country through it all.
Finally, I hope that during his term, the provision of one minister per state is removed once and for all from the Constitution, in addition to several other provisions in the Constitution that should make it a truly Peoples' Constitution under a True Cooperative Federalism.
And there you have it.
Bolaji Aluko
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 7:34 AM, Joe Attueyi <topcrestt@yahoo.com> wrote:
Na waoh Yeye.Since the INEC positions were announced Prof Aluko seems to have 'gone nuclear'!Here is extract from what he posted IN SUPPORT '... more often, in countries with purely presidential systems of government, such as the United States, the position (or an equivalent position) of minister without portfolio is uncommon..........'I hope the good Prof is NOT 'losing it ' tooHehehehe!JoeDucking while having a belly laugh
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On Nov 4, 2015, at 3:38 AM, 'Yeye Rolling' via AfricanWorldForum <africanworldforum@googlegroups.com> wrote:--Professor:I know for a fact that your heat is broken that you did not make the list. Government job no bi do or die.
From: Mobolaji Aluko <alukome@gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 8:08 PM
Subject: [africanworldforum] Re: All ministers will get portfolio – Presidency
Ola Kassim:Don't mind Joe Attueyi, whose nattering nabob-ness of negativity and auto-opposition against PMB seem to consume him on a daily basis as he looks from social media to social media like a wet blanket and a Jonah. But there seems to be a pattern to the malady: He seems to be fixing to be the Femi Fani-Kayode of the early GEJ administration, who sought - and got - to be noticed so that he (Attueyi) can be (like FFK) ultimately "bribed" with a Ministerial position! :-)Mba nu...QUOTEA minister without portfolio is either a government minister with no specific responsibilities or a minister who does not head a particular ministry. The sinecure is particularly common in countries ruled by coalition governments and a cabinet with decision-making authority wherein a minister without portfolio, while he or she may not head any particular office or ministry, does have the right to cast a vote in cabinet decisions. In some countries where the executive branch is not composed of a coalition of parties and, more often, in countries with purely presidential systems of government, such as the United States, the position (or an equivalent position) of minister without portfolio is uncommon..........[In Canada] The title of minister without portfolio has been used off and on; in recent times, though, the title has fallen out of favour, and the last minister without portfolio, Gilles Lamontagne, was promoted to postmaster general in 1978. The practice has continued under the guise of ministers of state without responsibilities in the ministers' titles.UNQUOTEA "Minister of Special Duties" is actually a minister without portfolio.And there you have it.Bolaji AlukoShaking his head--On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 8:48 PM, <olakassimmd@aol.com> wrote:
The idea of Ministers without portfolio is a
carry over from the period of Westminster
type parliamentary democracy days.
Even then what this actually meant that some
junior ministers were not assigned specific portfolios
but considered as Ministers at large who are tasked
to accomplish of various duties by the Prime minister
as he deemed fit during his tenure.
The idea is accommodated in our current Presidential
system by the appointment of Ministers of State
-who are junior ministers assigned to supervise less demanding
and less critical departments within a given ministry.
I doubt if PMB's initial idea was to have some Ministers without
portfolio sitting at home twiddling their thumbs and getting paid
for doing nothing.
Bye,
Ola
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Subject: All ministers will get portfolio – Presidency
--Common sense prevails. (Ir)regardless of what caterwaulers like Prof Aluko may say , there is some measure of satisfaction that can be derived from knowledge that there are some reasonable folks in the presidency who listen to sound ideas and can change their principal's views. If the constitution forces you to have 36 man cabinet then by jove split the work available among them.
Joe
All ministers will get portfolio – Presidency
By Isiaka Wakili | Publish Date: Nov 2 2015 10:27PM | Updated Date: Nov 3 2015 5:13AM
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