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Sent: Tue, Feb 9, 2016 2:44 pm
Subject: Re: 'We are not criminals' Nigerians tell their president
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Sent: Tue, Feb 9, 2016 2:44 pm
Subject: Re: 'We are not criminals' Nigerians tell their president
Pastor Joe:
I stand corrected!
I had the wrong impression that the statement was made at
a Town Hall meeting in London, England..
It is a gross mistake for President Buhari to have made this kind of statement
in an interview with a journalist from a foreign newspaper.
Bye,
Ola
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Sent: Tue, Feb 9, 2016 2:35 pm
Subject: Re: 'We are not criminals' Nigerians tell their president
On Feb 9, 2016, at 7:21 PM, olakassimmd via OkonkwoNetworks <okonkwonetworks@googlegroups.com> wrote:
From: Joe Attueyi <topcrestt@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Tue, Feb 9, 2016 2:35 pm
Subject: Re: 'We are not criminals' Nigerians tell their president
President Buhari was fielding questions at a Town Hall Meeting he heldwith Nigerians in the UK during which he was asked a question which elicitedhis response. President Buhari was addressing his own people at a special gathering to discussthe internal affairs of Nigeria and the welfare of Nigerians living and working in the UK.It is in this restricted and private setting that President Buhari uttered the words that have now becomecontroversial.
Dr Kassim,
No sir. Buhari made the statement in an interview with The Telegraph Newspaper UK
Joe
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On Feb 9, 2016, at 7:21 PM, olakassimmd via OkonkwoNetworks <okonkwonetworks@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Hi Farooq:I understand your concerns about why the leader ofa country like Nigeria, whose citizens are living onthe margins in another country should not be lendingthe weight of his office to further marginalize, criminalizeand stigmatize his own people beyond what the hostsociety already does.This incident reminds me of the broadcast of a documehtaryby CNN about 10 years ago.The documentary titled:"How To Rob a Bank" featured a young Nigerian awaiting trialfor charges relating to 419 fraulent crimes and identity theft.The young Nigerian, stated in an interview thatthere are many NIgerians like himself who are committingfraudulent crimes in Houston, Tx and many other jurisdictionsin the USA.As then Chairman of NIDO Americas, I worked with other Nigerian communityleaders to form a coalition which successfully protested and ultimatelyobtained an apology and a retraction from CNN for stigmatizing all Nigeriansin the USA by airing uncontested opinion about Nigerians from a co-compatriotwho was in a Houston jail awaiting trial for crimes he was alleged to have commited.The difference between my reaction to the CNN documentary and Buhari's statementwhich is alleged to have stigmatized Diaspora Nigerians resides in the audience and the venueof the statement.President Buhari was fielding questions at a Town Hall Meeting he heldwith Nigerians in the UK during which he was asked a question which elicitedhis response. President Buhari was addressing his own people at a special gathering to discussthe internal affairs of Nigeria and the welfare of Nigerians living and working in the UK.It is in this restricted and private setting that President Buhari uttered the words that have now becomecontroversial.If the President Buhari as the father and leader of the nation cannot speak candidly to an audienceof fellow citizens in a private setting about a matter that has ongoing major adverse impact on the imageof Nigerians at home and abroad, who else is better places to address this important topic?I would also have joined the protesters if President Buhari had mounted the podium at the British or EU parliamentor during a Press Conference anywhere in the world and uttered the same words.Bye,Ola.I would have been equally livid---- Original Message ------
From: Farooq A. Kperogi <farooqkperogi@gmail.com>
To: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Feb 9, 2016 12:13 pm
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - 'We are not criminals' Nigerians tell their president
Ola,
This isn't about the verisimilitude of what the president said; it's about the reckless, boneheaded misuse of his symbolic power to perpetrate a stereotype. As president, Buhari has disproportionate symbolic powers to define and redefine national identity--and to entrench and exacerbate hurtful stereotypes.
Because immigrant Nigerians in the UK are already on the social and cultural margins of their new host communities and don't fit easily into the dominant, prevailing imagery of the society--like other marginal groups elsewhere--the infractions and transgressions of their compatriots tend to be unduly magnified and, worse, externalized to all members of the group. That's why it's dangerous and irresponsible for the president to lend symbolic imprimatur to superficial stereotypes about his people.
If a Briton, for instance, were to commit a mass murder this moment, his crime would be individualized to him. No one would be suspicious of all Britons. Britons won't lose sleep over the heinous transgression of one them because they enjoy a symbolic social and cultural privilege that normalizes and individualizes them. Not so for members of marginal groups; they always have to bear the vicarious burdens of the transgressions of their members.
That's why Muslims almost always have to apologize each time a Muslim perpetrates a terrorists act. That's why members of the Korean community in America had to apologize and live in ice-cold dread after one of them perpetrated a detestable mass murder of innocents at Virginia Tech some years ago. The examples are legion, but the point I am making is that marginal groups often feel a heightened sense of insecurity and vulnerability when any member of their group commits a crime because such instances often provide a vent for bigoted people in the host community to exteriorize their pent-up prejudices against them.
Members of of dominant, mainstream groups never have to deal with this. They never have to apologize for the crimes of people who share their incidental primordial identities.
I am saying all this to make the case that when the president of a country goes to another country where some of his compatriots have reterritorialized--and often on the margins--it is profoundly hardhearted, even conscienceless, for him to call attention to negative stereotypes about them. The only thing such ill-advised statements do is to ossify the stereotypes against his people and authorize the mistreatment and injustices the people may suffer as a consequence of the stereotypes.
This is all the more painful because in spite of Nigeria's reputation for crime and fraud, it isn't even in the top 25 most crime-infested countries. This is not to say, of course, that there are no Nigerian criminals in Nigeria and elsewhere. There are--just like there are American, Malaysian, British, French, Senegalese, Chinese, etc. criminals.
A 2014 story shows that Poland has the highest number of foreign prisoners in British jails. This is followed by Ireland, Jamaica, Romania, and Pakistan. Nigeria is a distant 6th. There is no record of any president from Poland, Ireland, Jamaica, Romania or Pakistan going to the British media to talk about "some" of their citizens being criminals.
Buhari's utterance was irresponsible and out of line. There is no way to sugarcoat this.
Farooq Kperogi--
Farooq A. Kperogi, Ph.D.Journalism & Emerging Media
School of Communication & Media
Kennesaw State University
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On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:24 AM, olakassimmd via USA Africa Dialogue Series <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Dear All:The Nigerian protesters are not criminals;their only problem is they can't comprehendwritten or spoken English language very well..President Buhari did not refer to Nigerians residingand working abroad as criminals.What he did was to acknowledge in open forum thatthat there are too many of us in jail in foreigncountries. This is an undisputable fact.Even though one can protest and refuse to acknowledge the truth,such denial is unlikely to change the truth into falsehood.The first step in the healing process is to accept that one hasa problem. The rest follows in a short order!Instead of protesting Diaspora Nigerians should be acknowledgingthe truth and brainstorming amongst ourselves to find solutions to apervasive problemwhich is giving Nigeria a bad name throughout the world.Bye,Ola---- Original Message ------
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