Thursday, April 7, 2016

Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - The Original Sin (Poem)

Dear Ayo Obe,

You bring legal logic to bear on matters spiritual and cultural.  Spirituality and its attendant cultural imperialism defy legal logic.

For many cultures the symbol of the Godhead is female.  Misogyny later on reframed the narrative and in many folklores, there are tales of when women ruled the world but they were too strong and wanted to bring about Armageddon, so they were relegated and men took over ruler-ship.

The Hebrew narration of creation is one narrative.  There are others too.  One good thing is that they are all illogical and defy reason.  The ONLY logical and reasonable narration is the scientific mechanical one that Darwin expounded in his seminal work Origins.

Cheers.

IBK



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On 6 April 2016 at 18:42, Ayo Obe <ayo.m.o.obe@gmail.com> wrote:
I always find it curious how people jump over the latter part of Genesis 1:27 - "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." (emphasis added and note, no mention of Adam) and rush to Genesis 2:22-23 which could as well be the story of the origins of the Jewish people, having regard to the fact that after the Fall, "Cain knew his wife;" (Genesis 4:17) and there seemed just generally to be a lot of wives around to be married - where did they come from if not from those created in Genesis 1?

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 8:19 AM, Salimonu Kadiri <ogunlakaiye@hotmail.com> wrote:
Thanks to Chidi for this Poem, "The Original Sin" which would appear to have put spel on same sex  intercourse in Africa as advanced by the duo, Kayode Ketefe,  and Amatoritsero Ede through an article in the journal of homosexuality by George Olusola Ajibade. The central figures in Chidi's poem are Adam, Eve and the serpent. Christians distribute/sell million copies of Bible annually and they want us to believe its contents. It is impossible to believe in Bible and accept same sex coition or marriage.
 
Beginning with Genesis 1:27-28 Christians are taught that God created man (Adam) in his own image. Thereafter, in Genesis 2: 20-24 Christians are taught that although Adam was in control of all animals and birds of heaven he had no suitable helper. Hence, God made Adam to fall into deep sleep whereby He removed one of Adam's ribs and created a Eve (a woman) with it to keep the company of Adam. And God brought her to Adam who retorted, "This one at last is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh! She is to be called a woman because she was taken from a man."  For that sake shall a man leave his father and mother and cleave to his wife and they shall be one flesh. It is self-explanatory why God did not create a man with the ribs he extracted from Adam because He did not want bone to bone and moreover, that would have countered His desire that mankind should proliferate and spread over the earth. God never created homosexuals or Lesbians which is why in the Bible the male gender is referred to as man, husband and father while the female gender is referred to as woman, wife and mother.
 
Of course, same sex coition is referred to as unnatural in the Bible which in Leviticus 18: 22 reads, "Thou shall not lie with mankind as one lies with womankind. It is an abomination." Further in Leviticus 20:13 the Christian believers are told, "If a man lies with a mankind as he lies with a womankind, both of them have committed abomination, they shall surely be put to death, their blood shall be upon them." The righteous Western World who want to enforce same sex marriage on Africa should first withdraw all Bibles from circulation and revise it to include the ninth Beatitude, Blessed are the people who engage in same sex coition, for they shall inherit the kingdom of God. This is even more compelling as the New Testament in 1 Corinthians 6: 9-10 specifically listed homosexuals among offenders that will not inherit the Kingdom of God thus, "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived : neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor EFFEMINATE, nor ABUSERS of themselves with MANKIND, (10) Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." In the book of Revelation 21 : 8 & 27 Christian believers are unequivocally told that the homosexuals "shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." These are the teachings from the Bible which all Christians must believe.
 
George Olusola Ajibade would like to make us believe that homosexuality predated the advent of Europeans and, indeed, Christianity in Africa. He premised his assertion among others on his own Yoruba invented expression, Ó ranjú kankan bí ojú adófùrò, which he translated to, he strains his eye bulbs like a man fucking anus. But ADÓFÙRÒ is not a Yoruba name for homosexuality as it only describes the action of one person, that is, the penetrator and not the penetrated. And if a man engages in anal intercourse with a woman, should the practice be called homosexual or heterosexual? Even if we accept ADÓFÙRÒ as a Yoruba name for homosexuality, it cannot imply that homosexual practice existed among Yorubas before the advent of Europeans. The Yoruba word for television is A-MÓHÙN-MÀWÒRÁN, translated to sound and picture recorder and yet there were no televisions in Nigeria (Africa) before the arrival of Europeans. We sing, talk and eat with the mouth in Africa, but in the Swedish Journal of Social Medicine No. 9-10, page 485, 1993, a Professor of Social Anthropology at Lund University, Kajsa Ekholm Friedman, wrote, "A man (Congolese) who has just returned from France after a long stay there wanted to practice oral-sex on his wife. The wife drew the attention of neighbours to the husband's abnormal behaviour leading to the community trial of the husband. He was asked why he wanted to eat up his wife's private part. There he stood with tears running down his cheeks, he tried to explain before a dumbfounded audience."  Before writing this, the Professor stated that "it was remarkable that most of the perversions we (Swedes) practise are mainly non-existing in the Congo. Very soon, some learned Africans would tell us that there were oral-sex practitioners in Africa before our contacts with Europe.
S.Kadiri  
 

 

Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2016 15:35:16 +0100
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - The Original Sin (Poem)
From: alukome@gmail.com
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com



Chidi, IBK:


They are five Satanic verses......but for now, "we know in parts...."

And there you have it.



Bolaji Aluko
Shaking his head





On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 2:41 PM, Ibukunolu A Babajide <ibk2005@gmail.com> wrote:
Brilliant.  Your erotic rendition took excessive poetic licence.  God created Adam first, so Eve could not law claim or ownership to Eden.  She did not exist.

Adam had his own sex stick.  The serpent had its own too.  Can they be the same?  Methinks not!  The serpent as teacher is a version closer to the factual sequence.  Perhaps the rib of Adam stopped him from feeling and its removal made him feel again.

All said and done a brilliant erotic piece!

Cheers.

IBK



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On 5 April 2016 at 13:14, Chidi Anthony Opara <chidi.opara@gmail.com> wrote:

By Chidi Anthony Opara

 

The gate of Eve's eden

Opened.

Eve's eden fascinated Adam

And fascinated the Serpent.

 

The Serpent

Crawled to the entrance

And inserted its sex stick

Into the open eden,

Twisting the sex stick

Like the sex stick

Of a sex starved lover,

Its eyes rolling in pleasure.

Eve moaned in pleasure,

Adam watched with pleasure

And learned.

 

The Serpent withdrew,

Leaving Eve

At the edge of orgasm.

 

Eve beckoned,

Adam brought her

To the pleasure of orgasm.

 

From the sky

A stern voice said;

"You have sinned,

Eve's eden not for pleasure,

Tis for bringing forth flowers.

This sin will be called;

The original sin."

 

(Poem presented as social service, all rights reserved).



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