Monday, July 11, 2016

Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: Buhari Is Championing Nepotism – Junaid Mohammed

Cornelius

Sorry about your sis in law. May God bring her to Himself/Herself and take the best care of those she left behind.

On Islam, what we see in Nigeria's Muslim North is largely a lower level form of Islam.

it is a lower level form of islam  in the context of the potential and historical actualization of Islam in the course of its history across time and space.

all civilizations demonstrate various levels of quality of expression, from high to low and in between.

a religious culture  that is characterized by mass and individual murder of innocent non-Muslims across the decades from the 1950s to the present, that has become the nourishing ground for self declared Muslim terrorists  who were able to garner support from both politicians and general members of the populace in the first two years of its existence through its focus on bombing churches and machine gunning Christians and govt installations and representatives in the name of the 'power must go to the North' vision, depicting themselves as Muslim warriors, and another terrorist group which has the active backing of the national ruler, his armed forces and the DSS led by a member of the same ethnic/religious group as the national ruler and the terrorists,  as shown by their connivance in the massacre in Enugu state in their withdrawal from the place just before the terrorists  struck even though they were there precisely bcs of the impending terrorist attack, and the national ruler's strategic silences on these massacres and tardy comments when forced to do so, responding largely to work out how to reward the private business  people using this terrorist strategy as a means of land grab and political empowerment, is a culture  facing a grave crisis of barbarism.

if what the Muslim north is best known for is emulating Mohamed in marrying children while this practice  swells child mortality, sickness and poverty, not Mohamed's  austere desert prayers of his earlier days, , if what they are able to get from Mohamed is his warrior spirit and drive to conquer others  without realizing that the world has moved on beyond that mentality, if what they are able to retain from uthman dan fodio is his chauvinistic religiosity  that led to his conquest of the Hausa states whom he said  were not Muslim enough for  his liking, yet the same states are now  feudal communities, if they are not able to learn from other Muslim communities  across the world who are able to live and let live with others, then what we are seeing is a large dose of barbarism with some positivity  in the name of religion.

if one is looking for the inspirational essence of islam, as it  speaks to perennial  human  needs across ideologies  and geography, will one go to such  evil fruits  or go to such examples as the efforts  of Muslims in UK prisons to provide support for inmates, the culture of equality and absolute surrender before the Creator represented by Muslim prayer, the culture of self denial  through fasting, along with other positive aspects of Islam after one has stripped away the political exceptionalism it often comes with?

is the way of ibn arabi and Avicenna among Muslim thinkers   not a light for humanity, now and in the future,  rather than this bloodthirsty wallowing in barbaric attitudes?

classical African religions have moved on from human sacrifice. Nigeria's  Muslim North should also move on from its version of human sacrifice.

thanks

toyin

















On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Cornelius Hamelberg <corneliushamelberg@gmail.com> wrote:

Oluwatoyin Adepoju,


Re- your words: "We need ethnic self determination. All ethnicities need to decide whether or not they wish to remain in the Nigerian contraption and the terms of exit or remaining"


In addition to dealing with the economy, and wiping out corruption, you would like President Buhari to supervise the dismantling of Nigeria, everyone go his own way? Each new born/ independent / secessionist state will fight corruption on their own. That would make you happy.


You will no longer be unequally yoked to the North which presumably is not anxious to secede.


I know that you don't have any respect for the Nigerian military either


You should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself and ashamed of uncouth words, unworthy of even those Ogbeni Kadiri the Elder could deem "street urchins" :


"Buhari represents the dregs of Islamic civilization, an unmodern, medieval anachronistic group who are either uneducated in modern learning, as Buhari is, or even if they are, conspire to keep their people uneducated and poor, so they may continue to be useful as unthinking acolytes in securing the power base of these parasites." ( Toyin Adepoju noh 'fraid God)

Basil goes to church :


You may or may not like Basil and you may or may not be in a sweet mood to respond to this missile, but please understand that we're in dialogue and I'm still talking to you. I hope that you can hear me


clearly.


You have to calm down. Tell the strident bitch to climb down and turn off all the other gas that you have been emitting.


About responding/ not responding for all your lame excuses, so far, I'm not the one who has to give you freedom to jump off your faithless ladder, even jump off blessed virginia or as Madiba said, Go jump into a pool - to cool down - for all I care - if that is your desire...


Your main problem is that you are forever bristling with contempt for the great religion of al – Islam and - mistakenly, just a while ago sneering at what a figment of your imagination disdains to call " Medieval Islam" as if like verum Ignoramus, you never knew a thing about " The Golden Age of Islam".


I listened to Professor Mark R. Cohen hold forth on this at the Jewish Community House in Stockholm on 5th October 2005 - and afterwards had a chat with him (he was effusive with his optimism about the peace process and lavish in his praise of Prince Hassan of Jordan)

I remember that it was the 5th of October, because when I got home that evening , barely through the front door the phone rang with the news that my sister-in-law had just passed away in a convalescent home in the Canary Islands….


From the bottom of the ocean

in your imaginary boat


Cornelius,


We Sweden



On Monday, 11 July 2016 12:00:11 UTC+2, Oluwatoyin Adepoju wrote:
Cornelius,

You uncritical approach helps to sink your boat faster.

The Africans on the French team are there bcs they are the best. Not bcs they are anybody's kinsman. Africans in football are described as being both big and fast and so ideal for the game. Africans have also distinguished themselves globally in boxing, with Muhammed Ali epitomizing that achievement. The same goes for the track and field accomplishments represented by such athletes as Usain Bolt and the members of the US track and field teams. It is not possible to view football and track and field on  a global scale and not see Black people at the apex in various countries, in spite of all the entry restrictions into the West placed as barriers to African immigrants.The conditions that contribute to Kenya's global achievement in track and field are known. The Williams sisters and Tiger Woods are not representative of Black presence in those sports, although the life trajectories that have enabled their dominance of their sports are well known , along with the colossal physical power and determination represented by Serena Williams  enabling her being world no 1 in tennis, exemplified by her recent  historic 22nd grand slam title win  at Wimbledon, are on display for the whole world to see.

In the name of justice, what evidence of achievement exists to justify the Nigerian ruler filling most federal positions with ethnic/religious  affiliates  from the most educationally and economically backward region of Nigeria?

Buhari represents the dregs of Islamic civilization, an unmodern, medieval anachronistic group who are either uneducated in modern learning, as Buhari is, or even if they are, conspire to keep their people uneducated and poor, so they may continue to be useful as unthinking acolytes in securing the power base of these parasites.

Thus,  Buhari's Muslim North is the most educationally and economically underdeveloped region of Nigeria,  a region whose leaders have saddled Nigeria with the culture of mediocrity represented by insisting on low cut off marks for their indigenes in entrance exams to federal educational institutions instead of working hard to educate their people as the West and the East in particular did with their own regions, yet these other regions and the rest of the nation are disadvantaged  by being required to present high grades for entry into the same institutions, then this terrorist supporter of Boko Haram and Fulani herdsmen terrorist murderers  fills federal positions with ethnic/religious  affiliates from a particularly  underdeveloped region and you think Nigeria is going anywhere in a hurry?

It is not a crime to be underdeveloped, and at an even lower level than  other members of a generally underdeveloped nation. But it is a crime to either slow down the development of others as well as of oneself or ensure that development remains a mirage across generations for others and even for oneself, by trying to use one's underachieving  region in dominating others, through a culture of keeping one's constituency chronically underdeveloped educationally and economically, encouraging them to feed on a diet of fanatical, dogmatic religion, while struggling to cow the rest of the nation to your barbaric mindset through a culture that encourages regular pogroms of those outside your region but living in your region, through coups staged by your members in the national army, through terrorism, such as Boko Haram and Fulani herdsmen terrorists, through threats of terrorism such as Atiku threatening Nigeria with violent change bcs a Northern Muslim was not made PDP 2011 Presidential candidate or Buhari threatening the 'dog and the baboon' would be covered in blood' if he lost the 2015 elections, and proceeding to create an army of appointees from this dognmatised class to ensure perpetual continuity in power even after other groups have allowed themselves to be misled in supporting  your ascension to power, that being a summary of  how we got to the current  hell in Nigeria at the hands of the right wing fascist Northern Muslim group to which Buhari belongs.

Anytime you think I have written anything unfactual about that charlatan, let me know and ill consider responding. But ill not respond to a  challenge that is not serious. Your current challenge is unserious bcs you are making a comparison which anyone can see does not hold, in the spirit of  people like you who keep insisting Nigerians must live by low standards and therefore be assured of perpetual mediocrity in the community of nations. I am responding now only bcs I am in the mood to.

We need ethnic self determination. All ethnicities need to decide whether or not they wish to remain in the Nigerian contraption and the terms of exit or remaining. This oil inspired integration is a deadly scam daily costing many lives, the latest being the recurrent murders of non-Muslims in the North by the fanatical Muslims who define Northern Nigerian Islam.

toyin


On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 11:52 PM, Cornelius Hamelberg <cornelius...@gmail.com> wrote:

Oluwatoyin Adepoju,


The "incongruity of (my) position" ?


Which position ?


I counted at least seven Africans in the French National Football Team – and a few more on the substitute bench. They could have all come from Kaduna, what do you care...


Like a Judas priest or like one of the devils possessed by an evil spirit you have been bombarding this forum with endless anti-Buhari diatribes and misleading information through which we have got to understand that your unforgettable position on Brother Buhari is not made of gold, rather, is fashioned by a heart carved out of stone.


No matter. I'm sure that your heart beats for Nigeria. Maybe, also Biafra? (That would be a business earthquake of Brexit dimensions)


"medieval mind set" Who? Brother Buhari?

And the Constitution?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg_Y3HXp4sU





On Sunday, 10 July 2016 20:18:17 UTC+2, Oluwatoyin Adepoju wrote:
Cornelius Hamelberg,

It seems you have forgotten my position on Buhari.

I was alluding to the incongruity of your position, not its validity.

I dont consider that character worthy of my efforts to point out his mendacity which some of us saw for what it was before the country was deceived into putting him in a job from where he unleashes a medieval mind set on the nation.

toyin

On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 6:24 PM, Ugochukwu Ejinkeonye <opini...@gmail.com> wrote:
The last time I checked, this was an interview given by Dr. Junaid Mohammed, the man who has built a reputation for his pro-North mindset, but who in this interview chose to sing a new tune. I wonder why the "author" or the "interviewer" should be the butt of attacks here, instead of the man whose views he merely reported? And how does merely reporting an interview translate to someone wishing that Buhari surrounded himself with South Easterners? I doubt if Dr. Junaid Mohammed would go to the extent of proposing that. The way we reason in Nigeria can at times be very strange...

On Thursday, July 7, 2016 at 1:50:19 PM UTC+1, Ugochukwu Ejinkeonye wrote:

Buhari Is Championing Nepotism – Junaid Mohammed

 …His Relatives Dictate Aso Rock policy
*President Buhari 
Interview by Ishaya Ibrahim (Acting News Editor)
Muhammadu Buhari's relatives are the ones dictating policy in Aso Rock for 170 million Nigerians, adding nepotism to the festering allegation of narrow mindedness levelled against the president, who critics say surrounds himself with Northerners in running national affairs.
Junaid Mohammed, radical politician and Second Republic lawmaker, named at least seven relatives of the president who are the power behind the throne in the Villa – apart from the heads of all vital security agencies who are from the from the North.
In a telephone interview from his base in Kano, Mohammed accused Buhari of giving key positions to his cousins, nephews, and in-laws, and is therefore guilty of the corruption he is trying to fight.
Mohammed, a virulent critic of former President Goodluck Jonathan, and originally a supporter of Buhari, said nepotism compromises Buhari's ability to rule the country well, fight corruption, and deal with rogue lawmakers who pose a threat to his administration.

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