Wednesday, July 13, 2016

USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: To Okoi: REFERENDUM & the ELECTORAL ACT

"let me say categorically and unequivocally that the Electoral Act is inferior to the Constitution in the hierarchy of Laws. The Constitution is the fundamental or supreme law of the country. It is the source and fountain of every thing other law including the Electoral Act."

-Okoi


Okoi, I'm still trying to wrap my head around your statement above because it is counterintuitive! The Electoral Act cannot be INFERIOR to the constitution because it is itself primarily rooted in the constitution, and therefore it is constitutional! All laws derive from the written constitution of the land. All Acts of Parliament passed under the regulation of the constitution are the laws of the land, and one cannot be talking of which one is "inferior" or "superior." The right to vote is guaranteed under the constitution, and it is the foundation of our democracy. Without that right, all talk about a democracy or a republic is sham and contrived. With due respect, Okoi, I should really not be the ne telling you all this. You are an officer of the courts, sworn to defend these rights.


You do not need an amendment of the constitution to establish the referendum. That right to a referendum is already established under the rights of suffrage, and can neither be questioned, nor evacuated. The question regarding whether to dismantle a federation is not a legal question, it is a democratic question. There was once a Senegambia federation. There was once an East African federation. There is nothing sacrosanct about national boundaries as the Cameroonian plebiscite proved in 1961, and the Midwest referendum proved in 1963. As Joe Atueyi has shown, it did not require any extraordinary constitutional measures, except that which was already inherent in the constitution to conduct these refrenda. It would only require the parliament to set down a committee, empower the national Population Commission to determine the demographic weight of the region, and hand over the details of the conduct of the referendum to the National Election Commission, which is an independent body, but which actually should be under either the Ministry of Home Affairs or the Ministry of Establishment, in other circumstances. We have examples everywhere else in the world to guide us. Nigeria does not exist in Mars.

Obi Nwakanma





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Subject: Re: To Okoi: REFERENDUM & the ELECTORAL ACT
 
Obi Nwakanma, let me say categorically and unequivocally that the Electoral Act is inferior to the Constitution in the hierarchy of Laws. The Constitution is the fundamental or supreme law of the country. It is the source and fountain of every thing other law including the Electoral Act. In other words, it is the Constitution that gives legitimacy and efficacy to ordinary legislation such the Electoral Act! So you suggestion that the Electoral Act can be amended to take care of referendum to split the Country is non sequitor with due respect. All processes and procedures including referendum  to decide whether or not to break the ‎country must flow from the Constitution which is the organic law otherwise it will amount to a breach of the Constitution. 

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Subject: Re: To Okoi: REFERENDUM & the ELECTORAL ACT

Okoi, I asked the question about the existence under the constitution of the rights to vote for a reason. The laws regulating voting in Nigeria is covered under the Electoral Act. All that it would take to conduct a referendum is its simple incorporation into the Electoral Act. The law itself already exists. It will not require any other law. The subject of a referendum is immaterial. The recall process is the law of referenda. It already exists in the Nigerian constitution. It is DIRECT DEMOCRACY: throwing the question back the people. A referendum on whether a part of Nigeria should be allowed to leave Nigeria can be raised for as long as the electoral law governs petition, and the number of signatories required for that petition to pass as a vote.

Obi Nwakanma





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Subject: [africanworldforum] Re: To Okoi: APPLICATION OF BIAFRA (SS & SE) TO THE PRESIDSENT OF NIGERIA FOR REFERENDUM IN SOUTHSOUTH AND SOUTHEAST OF NIGERIA – REMINDER (5)
 
Obi Nwakanma , the right to vote in an election is different from the right to vote in a referendum to balkanise t‎he country! Please do not mix these two different concepts . The Nigerian Constitution do not contain any clause on how any part of the country  that desires self determination is to go about it. Conversely, the demand in some quarters for a referendum to decide the quest of the South East to break away from the country is strange to the Nigerian Constitution. So your proposition concerning the holding of a referendum, filing of a petition and a declaration by the Supreme Court is academic! 

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Subject: To Okoi: APPLICATION OF BIAFRA (SS & SE) TO THE PRESIDSENT OF NIGERIA FOR REFERENDUM IN SOUTHSOUTH AND SOUTHEAST OF NIGERIA – REMINDER (5)

"There is no provision in the Nigerian Constitution for the conduct of a referendum to determine the balkanisation of the country!-Okoi


Okoi, I'm really quite surprised at you these days. What sort of claim is this? Is there a constitutional guarantee for the right to vote already existing in the  Nigerian constitution? If such a provision exits, conducting a referendum does not need a constitutional amendment, because it is already covered by suffrage. A petition may be submitted to the National Assembly by those seeking a referendum, and all it requires is a resolution of the National Assembly, and failing which, a declaration of the Supreme Court, on an issue already covered in the bill of rights and by international law. You need really to step up your game, man, as a neutral counsellor to the president.

Obi Nwakanma





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Subject: Re: Patrick Nwakuba: Re: APPLICATION OF BIAFRA (SS & SE) TO THE PRESIDSENT OF NIGERIA FOR REFERENDUM IN SOUTHSOUTH AND SOUTHEAST OF NIGERIA – REMINDER (5)
 
Wishful thing! There is no provision in the Nigerian Constitution for the conduct of a referendum to determine the balkanisation of the country! So those who demanding for a referendum for the partition of the country   are living in a fool paradise! The procedure for amending the Constitution is so cumbersome and difficult that no portion or section can successfully  demand  ‎for amending of the Constitution without the support of other component part of the country . Even if a law is passing by the National Assembly legalizing referendum it still need an amendment of the Constitution.  

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Subject: Patrick Nwakuba: Re: APPLICATION OF BIAFRA (SS & SE) TO THE PRESIDSENT OF NIGERIA FOR REFERENDUM IN SOUTHSOUTH AND SOUTHEAST OF NIGERIA – REMINDER (5)

Patrick Nwakuba: One thing must be very clear to him [Emeka Okala] and Okoi or whatever his name, is this, that Biafra land runs all the way to "Bight of Biafra" and there's nothing and I mean nothing they can do about it. Period. 
Ayo Ojutalayo: In the event that Biafra's existence happens through peaceful means, Nigeria as a country will not allow Biafra to extend beyond today's South East. Nigerians (Igbo and non-Igbo) that wish to be Biafrans should be free to move to and live in Biafra (today's SE).

Patrick Nwakuba: If they love Nigeria's survival, let them advise Buhari to start the restructuring of Nigeria by implementing the recommendations of the President Jonathan's constitutional conference that ended less than two years ago. And there they have it. No apologies.
Ayo Ojutalayo:  If you love restructuring of Nigeria so much, why did you not advise President Jonathan to implement the recommendation of his Constitutional Conference?


Ayo Ojutalayo

"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. " . . . Martin Luther King Jr



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Subject: Re: APPLICATION OF BIAFRA (SS & SE) TO THE PRESIDSENT OF NIGERIA FOR REFERENDUM IN SOUTHSOUTH AND SOUTHEAST OF NIGERIA – REMINDER (5)

Cool Breeze;
Don't you think the more we keep responding to this Stupid Rueben Okalana's stupid rants, the more he thinks he is an opinion maker for the Ikwerre? One thing must be very clear to him and Okoi or whatever his name, is this, that Biafra land runs all the way to "Bight of Biafra" and there's nothing and I mean nothing they can do about it. Period. 
If they love Nigeria's survival, let them advise Buhari to start the restructuring of Nigeria by implementing the recommendations of the President Jonathan's constitutional conference that ended less than two years ago. And there they have it. No apologies.
P. Nwakuba 
Having my Alukolistic evil belly laughs for Okoi and Rueben Emekna Naijaremain.

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On Jul 10, 2016, at 9:40 AM, Vin Otuonye <vincentotuonye@msn.com> wrote:

Emeka Okala:
Look at you. Just as we have Hausa Banza, we also have Igbo Banza and you're sure Igbo Banza. But please check your writing. It is TURN around not TOWN around. But honestly Igbo doesn't need the SS for any referendum. They can do it alone. But who are the SS anyway? If you look at the SS, Igbo make up the largest group in the SS. So those Igbo in the SS, should they be allowed to join their kiths and kins for the referendum or should they be forced to stay in your One Nigeria?
Vin Cool Breeze Otuonye
On Jul 10, 2016 8:42 AM, Okoi Ofem Obono-Obla <okoiobla@hotmail.com> wrote:
Rev. Okala, absolutely! The minorities of the defunct Eastern Region will never forget the discrimination and deprivation they suffered in the defunct Eastern Region! It got so bad that  late Professor Eyo Ita was forced to resign his position as the Leader of Government Business in the defunct Eastern Regional House of Assembly because he was an ethnic minority! 

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Subject: Re: APPLICATION OF BIAFRA (SS & SE) TO THE PRESIDSENT OF NIGERIA FOR REFERENDUM IN SOUTHSOUTH AND SOUTHEAST OF NIGERIA – REMINDER (5)

Sounds better as Igboexit or Igboremain! Before referendum, Igbo will need to get the Constitution amended making the referendum constitutional. First thing first!
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