Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - A little on that first Trump-Clinton debate...

Dear

Kenneth & Mario,
Mailer and Trump
are like twin peas
in the same pod
not when it comes
to literary merit
&
lefty idiosyncrasies
but
they are twin souls
and this is much in evidence
when it comes to temperament in the department
of iconoclastics & incorrectness
no matter the source of inspiration
for Mailer for example throwing a
plate of potatoes clean across the dining room -
at the waiter who had annoyed him...

On Wednesday, 28 September 2016 18:17:20 UTC+2, Kenneth Harrow wrote:
> He also was a leftist, not a neofascist.
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> Kenneth Harrow
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> From: usaafricadialogue <usaafric...@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Mario Fenyo <MFe...@bowiestate.edu>
> Reply-To: usaafricadialogue <usaafric...@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday 28 September 2016 at 09:03
> To: usaafricadialogue <usaafric...@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - A little on that first Trump-Clinton debate...
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> Beg to disagree:  Norman Mailer was, if not great, at least a competent and talented writer.
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> From: usaafric...@googlegroups.com [usaafric...@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Cornelius Hamelberg [cornelius...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 8:50 AM
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> Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - A little on that first Trump-Clinton debate...
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> It's good to be able to judge for oneself. I finally watched the first Trump-Clinton debate last night and got to dislike Mrs Clinton even a little more intensely. This dis-like goes way back to some of the things she and her husband said when they were fighting Brother Obama tooth and nail for the Democrats' nomination ticket. After which she ought to have retired from politics but Barack graciously gave her a compensation prize - to heal her grieving - but she messed up as Secretary of State, big time and it's not only about Bengazi. Now she probably wants to fight Putin or tangle with him as the USA's first female commander-in-chief. AS the ultra Russian nationalist Vladimir Zhirinovsky once said about Elisbeth Rehn who had been appointed Defence Minister of Finland, "I do not respect a country that has a woman as minister of defence"
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> At the first debate with Trump, that in her own staid way Mrs wannabe president, could sink so low, be so sarcastic, so petty-minded, spiteful, mean-spirited, taunting and harassing him about tax returns etc , trying to provoke Mr. Trump so that he would explode – let loose some lethal verbal canons - break into an unforgettable tit-for-tat barrage - in which with Mrs Clinton already in red overalls from tip to toe, it's likely to have been another tragic case of "There was Blood coming out of her wherever" - except that of course and thank God, he could not say and did not say that about menopausal Hillary. The big bad wolf could of course have told her the sort of thing/things that could have caused her to faint or break into tears or even drop dead right there on the stage in front of everyone, bring the night to a decisive conclusion.
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> In many ways, Donald Trump remind me so much of another New Yorker, Norman Mailer...
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> Mrs C, quite a calculating one, had prepared for the debate alight, the first thing I saw was her red suit - first I saw the red and then I saw that it was her and not Dolly Parton in her trousers and that's calculation – you are advised to wear red - an attractive, life-giving colour, when visiting old, sick people - but not only the sick and the old - "see the girl with the red dress on, she can do the Birdland all night long" - the first song I ever learned to play – Ray Charles' What'd I say
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> Trump won the debate alright, beginning with the economics sphere and finishing her off in foreign affairs – that much is clear – but was the moderator fair? He was hard on Trump - but not on Bill's Hillary. Is it possible that Hillary had been fed the questions beforehand? Whitewater, e-mails disappearing, terrorists breaking into the Democrats database etc., the rogue treatment of Bernie Sanders , everything is possible in America
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> "Old lady judges watch people in pairs
> Limited in sex, they dare
> To push fake morals, insult and stare
> While money doesn't talk, it swears
> Obscenity, who really cares
> Propaganda, all is phony" ( Dr. Dylan)
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> I wonder, because Mrs Clinton's response to the first question - not an unexpected question, seemed so well prepared - "Today is my granddaughter's second birthday, so I think of this a lot", the old lady crowed. How fortuitous that the debate date coincided with her granddaughter's second birthday – it could have been two days later. Hillary hope is that all you grandpas and grandmas out there heard that and empathised with Hillary and will consequently go out and vote for her solidly on November 8.
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> From today's DN editorial : "Clinton's style is also her problem. She can rattle off facts and details, and that's nothing to be ashamed of. But she often sounds as if someone has pressed a button, she mastered the subject but has been difficult to arouse emotions."
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> Transcript of the debate
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> First question, pressed her button and like a locomotive without emotion she was spitting out like Mr. Gradgrind.
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> Trump (a great American) emerged from the debate as a much more likeable and sympathetic person (than Hillary) - showing the forbearance and restraint and good-naturedness that she could not show and did not show.
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> I have no doubt about this : Hillary would have turned out to be the worst president in the history of the United States
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> What else is in the offing : Obama's veto on legislation backed by the families of victims of the 9/11 attacks.
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