Monday, January 23, 2017

Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Fwd : “Love is the bridge between you and everything” – Rumi

Cornelius,
You must correct any wrong impressions that you transmit.
Of course,
the bee sees a beautiful flower and says "Mashallah !"
As Kabir says,"I laugh when I hear that the fish in the water is thirsty."
However, this much is clear :
1. Neither al-Islam nor Rumi propagate philandery and libertinism .
2. The Sufi heart is only for the beloved - as in the classic tale of Laila and Majnu
3. The Instructions were clear for the wisest King Solomon- he who built the temple
Felt a wisp of sadness today, when I read that " an ignoramus cannot be a righteous person."
Felt sorry, not for myself but for Cornelius Ignoramus….

"Rubber"?


On Monday, 23 January 2017 20:41:47 UTC+1, H O wrote:
Dear Colleagues
I hereby withdraw or rather discharge the 'metaphor' of the honey bee with which I clothed Cornelius two days ago. Reading the thread that followed, I came to the conclusion that he is more like a 'rubber' in the manner of Tayeb Salih in Season of Migration to the North...*:D big grin
Oladosu A. Afis
Professor of Middle Eastern, North African and Cultural Studies
Department of Arabic and Islamic Studies,
University of Ibadan,
Ibadan, Nigeria.
"The best of princes is he who visits scholars."
- Jalal al-Din Rumi, 13th century Persian Sufi poet



On Monday, January 23, 2017 6:46 PM, Cornelius Hamelberg <cornelius...@gmail.com> wrote:


Cornelius,
You must correct any wrong impressions that you transmit.
Of course,
the bee sees a beautiful flower and says "Mashallah !"
As Kabir says,"I laugh when I hear that the fish in the water is thirsty."
However, this much is clear :
1. Neither al-Islam nor Rumi propagate philandery and libertinism .
2. The Sufi heart is only for the beloved - as in the classic tale of Laila and Majnu
3. The Instructions were clear for the wisest King Solomon- he who built the temple
Felt a wisp of sadness today, when I read that " an ignoramus cannot be a righteous person."
Felt sorry, not for myself but for Cornelius Ignoramus….


On Sunday, 22 January 2017 22:24:21 UTC+1, Cornelius Hamelberg wrote:
Yessir,
No harm or haram in that! There are no monks in Islam! As a real Muslim you must follow the sunnah
Only the impotent bee does not like a beautiful flower or complains (like some of the missionaries) about "polygamy"
The wisest man that lived - King Solomon - was the champion and they say that that is why he was so wise.
The Prophet of Islam (s.a.w.) said, "three things I love most : Prayer, women and perfume"
The Prophet of Islam ( s.a.w.) said, "I am better than all of you because I am best to my wives"
For the Shia Brethren there are the blessings of muta/ temporary marriage
And if you don't like marriage (permanent or temporary honey) then there was this radical Hindu rascal


On Sunday, 22 January 2017 20:01:51 UTC+1, H O wrote:
Cornelius...
You are like the honey bee which is constantly in search of beautiful flowers... 
 
Oladosu A. Afis
Professor of Middle Eastern, North African and Cultural Studies
Department of Arabic and Islamic Studies,
University of Ibadan,
Ibadan, Nigeria.
"The best of princes is he who visits scholars."
- Jalal al-Din Rumi, 13th century Persian Sufi poet



On Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:09 PM, Cornelius Hamelberg <cornelius...@gmail.com> wrote:


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