Friday, January 27, 2017

Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - THE OSCARS ARE HERE!


I wanted to find out the technical  and performative difference between the two if any.


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From: Kenneth Harrow <harrow@msu.edu>
Date: 26/01/2017 07:44 (GMT+00:00)
To: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - THE OSCARS ARE HERE!

Hi olayinka, not really sure what you are asking about. Oh, I think I see. I haven't seen lala land. I thought it was being billed as a musical? Operas are typically recorded now and shown on Saturday afternoon in movie theatres; but billing something as an opera, not a musical, is normal only when it is a real operatic performance. There have been really great musicals as films,…

Am I missing your question somehow?

ken

 

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From: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Olayinka Agbetuyi <yagbetuyi@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
Date: Wednesday 25 January 2017 at 18:50
To: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - THE OSCARS ARE HERE!

 

And the musicals? Particularly on celluloid. Your forte...

 

 

 

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From: Kenneth Harrow <harrow@msu.edu>

Date: 25/01/2017 18:31 (GMT+00:00)

To: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - THE OSCARS ARE HERE!

 

Hi ola

For the real answer, you need the language maven Farooq.

Operas began somewhere around the 17th or 18th centuries, I would guess, and were entertainment for the courts. Aristocratic, witty, baroque, rococo, then classical, then late classical, down to today, modern or even postmodern productions. High culture. When brecht came along he adopted the term, and made it a "people's" entertainment, with cabaret music and popular, comic, ironic, satirical meaning, 3-penny opera. I take it Soyinka built on the pop connotation, like the marx bros.

It's become a cool word, in that respect. Trashier, hipper, ready to move from the preserve of the high and mighty to the low and down and out. To pop culture, or even Hollywood, mass culture.

Has it changed since then? Not sure. probably more commonly seen in mock-opera clothes than the met.

And then returns in classical terms with teju cole, whose discourse on classical performances in open city—mahler's symphony, actually—was unforgettable.

The last thing I'll say is that this shift seems implicit in opera to me, all along. If you listen to 19th century Italian opera, it is really pop Italian music—the line is very fine.

ken

 

Kenneth Harrow

Dept of English and Film Studies

Michigan State University

619 Red Cedar Rd

East Lansing, MI 48824

517-803-8839

harrow@msu.edu

http://www.english.msu.edu/people/faculty/kenneth-harrow/

 

From: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Olayinka Agbetuyi <yagbetuyi@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
Date: Wednesday 25 January 2017 at 06:51
To: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - THE OSCARS ARE HERE!

 

Ken:

 

Since this is your area of core concentration and for the past six years I have been involved in the inter-relationships between the word, the genres and media could you expatiate on the differences between an opera and musical in view of the attention La La Land is receiving at the Oscars. 

 

 Im thinking of examples such as Abba the Music, Mama Mia,  Phantom of the Opera,  Opera Wonyosi (by WS) and La La Land.

 

 

 

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From: Kenneth Harrow <harrow@msu.edu>

Date: 25/01/2017 02:40 (GMT+00:00)

To: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Tears for PETER ABRAHAMS

 

A major south African voice for all of us who read African literature in its early years.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/22/books/peter-abrahams-a-south-african-who-wrote-of-apartheid-and-identity-dies-at-97.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fobituaries&action=click&contentCollection=obituaries&region=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=7&pgtype=sectionfront

 

 

 

Kenneth Harrow

Dept of English and Film Studies

Michigan State University

619 Red Cedar Rd

East Lansing, MI 48824

517-803-8839

harrow@msu.edu

http://www.english.msu.edu/people/faculty/kenneth-harrow/

 

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Date: Tuesday 24 January 2017 at 17:51
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Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Tears for the Congo

 

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