Agreed, bolaji
Kenneth Harrow
Dept of English and Film Studies
http://www.english.msu.edu/people/faculty/kenneth-harrow/
From: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Mobolaji Aluko <alukome@gmail.com>
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Date: Sunday 29 January 2017 at 22:48
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Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: Trump order: Nigerians may no longer get 2-year American visa - Daily Post Nigeria
Ken, Cornelius and our People:
Not to worry: in addition to the courts taming and teaching Trump a lesson or two, he will FULLY learn that not only did he lose the MAJORITY vote by almost 3 million votes, but for the next four years, wherever he goes in the US (and abroad by the way), he will be "de-legitimized" by demonstrations after demonstrations for every fascist act of his by a very VOCAL majority that will include not only American citizens who did not vote for him, but also by iILLEGAL immigrants who could not/did not vote, but ALSO the LEGAL immigrants who also did not vote. If those two groups had voted, he would have lost by maybe 20 million votes - but now they can MARCH!
Trump is a man who did not serve in the Military; who has never won an elected office except this Presidency; who has not worked for anybody else except his business-man father in a family business; who has ALWAYS been a boss. So he has NEVER had to be humbled or to defer to anybody - and now he has one of the most powerful positions in the World?
That is why he is giving Executive Orders at 12 per week like a tin-pot dictator, at which rate he would give 2,500 by the end of his four-year tenure! )https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/executive-orders). Obama issued 250 in an eight-year period. (See table below https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/disposition.html)
I do not know you insist on "Hire American" - and expect other nations to hire Americans, 8 million of who (outside of the Military) are estimated to be living and working abroad (https://www.aaro.org/about-aaro/6m-americans-abroad). I don't know how you insist on "Buy American" when you wish to sell so many of your exports abroad. Does he want to produce everything within the US and sell everything within the US? It just does not make sense to be so jingoistic, and don't expect a push-back, when Russia and China and India, etc. are ready to move into space you live.
IT is bizarre....He will eventually be humbled by Man and God, we should watch.
And there you have it.
Bolaji Aluko
PS1: By the way, my country Nigeria has more Muslims - and has a terrorist organization Boko Haram - than each of the seven countries banned so far. Boko Haram can be "tempted" to have Nigeria be put on Trump's list by deliberately targeting US assets and personnel. Then Nigerian green card holders - and possibly dual citizens - will get nervous.....Trump's order would then be a self-inflicted wound, and Nigeria will have its own hurt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_by_country
Country/Region[1] | Muslims | Muslim percentage (%) of total population | Percentage (%) of World Muslim population |
24,023,000 | 99.0 | 1.5 | |
20,895,000 | 90 | 1.3 | |
39,027,950 | 97.0[92] | 1.9 | |
9,231,000 | 0.6 | ||
93,839,000 | 4.7 | ||
6,325,000 | 96.6 | 0.4 | |
31,108,000 | 98.9 | 1.9 | |
74,819,000 | 99.7 | 4.6 |
PS2: Executive Orders by US President
https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/disposition.html
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Prez # | President | EO | | Number of Eos | Comment |
44 | Barack Obama (2009-Present) | EOs 13489 - 13738 | 250 | | |
43 | George W. Bush (2001-2009) | EOs 13198-13488 | 291 | | |
42 | William J. Clinton (1993-2001) | EOs 12834-13197 | 364 | | |
41 | George Bush (1989-1993) | EOs 12668-12833 | | 166 | |
40 | Ronald Reagan (1981-1989) | EOs 12287-12667 | | 381 | |
39 | Jimmy Carter (1977-1981) | EOs 11967-12286 | | 320 | |
38 | Gerald R. Ford (1974-1977) | EOs 11798-11966 | | 492 | |
37 | Richard Nixon (1969-1974) | EOs 11452-11797 | | 346 | |
36 | Lyndon B. Johnson (1963-1969) | EOs 11128-11451 | | 324 | |
35 | John F. Kennedy (1961-1963) | EOs 10914-11127 | | 696 | |
34 | Dwight D. Eisenhower (1953-1961) | EOs 10432-10913 | | 482 | |
33 | Harry S. Truman (1945-1953) | EOs 9538-10431 | | 894 | |
32 | Franklin D. Roosevelt (1933-1945) | EOs 6071-9537 | | 3467 | |
31 | Herbert Hoover (1929-1933) | EOs 5075-6070 | | 996 | |
On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 2:09 AM, Kenneth Harrow <harrow@msu.edu> wrote:
Sorry Cornelius, I was intemperate
People who are not here, now, in the country should know what it is like. Every day trump signs orders that rescind progress that we’ve fought for, for long time, like abortion rights. I understand the need to compromise on it, on guns, even on security issues. But this goes so far to the right we are obliged to try to form coalitions, close ranks, and struggle back. This morning the univ of Michigan made a public statement it would not cooperate w federal authorities in revealing immigration status of its students. It was a huge, courageous stance. We tried to organize, mobilize, strategize how to get our city and university, mich state u, to follow suit. Later it did. We discussed organizing a protest rally on behalf of the immigrants or refugees or foreigners, with or without green cards. These protests were before our eyes, all over the world. Would we sit back and let our colleagues, grad students, dear friends, be screwed by a maniac whose policies would satisfy only his bigoted base.
We thought of the St Louis, the boat turned back in 1939, whose cargo were returned to the Nazis to be slaughtered. A nightmare. A never again; and now we, we are living it every day.
The hatred of muslims, under the cover of imagining isis represents all muslims, and somehow threatens us, is given full charge day after day. The resistance, even within the republicans and military, doesn’t prevail.
This doesn’t even count the damage to our relations with mexico, Canada, the Europeans, and china. Does anyone imagine america’s progress lies in alliance with Russia, or is it trump’s business interests that will progress?
Does anyone really imagine Africa will prosper if an authoritarian megalomaniac rules this country, and that the damage done to the environment won’t affect all of us?
I could go on, but you get the point. We are living in a huge crisis, and everyone I know, my family, friends, colleagues, acquaintances, are in a panic, in depression, or trying to live by managing the nightmare. Under those circumstances, I find myself all too often cracking and using words and tones of voice I normally control.
So, sorry for my tone. I hope you have a glimpse of what “the intelligentsia” of this country, or any who imagine themselves to have a real progressive set of principles, find truly a nightmare.
ken
Kenneth Harrow
Dept of English and Film Studies
http://www.english.msu.edu/people/faculty/kenneth-harrow/
From: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Cornelius Hamelberg <corneliushamelberg@gmail.com>
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Date: Sunday 29 January 2017 at 18:30
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Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: Trump order: Nigerians may no longer get 2-year American visa - Daily Post Nigeria
Dearest Ken,
I didn't vote for Trump. I think that you got me wrong this time.
This is the one that I'm sure is likely to be issued with a visa and a green card immediately, not me.
On Sunday, 29 January 2017 23:29:54 UTC+1, Kenneth Harrow wrote:Hannah arendt, in the Origins of Totalitarianism, explained how hitler’s unfounded hatred of and p ersecution of jews, made them into the very thing hitler accused them of being: his enemies.
Trump acts like a monstrous dictator, using his powers as best he can to sow havoc and damage.
The logic he’s used against muslims is madness. If I were to tell you, Cornelius, about a jew in Europe who became an anti-Semitic alt-right fanatic, would you then say it is right to exclude jews from Europe or Israel? It’s insane what he is doing, and you are still acting as an apologist for actions that historically accord with far right and fascist rulers
ken
Kenneth Harrow
Dept of English and Film Studies
http://www.english.msu.edu/people/faculty/kenneth-harrow/
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Date: Sunday 29 January 2017 at 17:00
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Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: Trump order: Nigerians may no longer get 2-year American visa - Daily Post Nigeria
Nigeria is not among the seven nations that are temporarily banned until, as he said during his campaign, he and his team figure out "what the hell is goin' on". I suppose that there are people who could be fleeing from Boko Haram, all the way to the United States. As this Democrat from Arizona put it,
" If there is a Muslim ban, refugees can pretend they're Christians.You know, just like Republicans do"
Everyone is bashing President Trump but we could have some sympathy for him, it's not paranoia, after all he has every right to suspect that some Muslim terrorist , up to no good could want to sneak into America (US) and blow up Trump Tower just as they did with the Twin Towers.
In any case this one is likely to be issued with a visa and a green card immediately:
On Sunday, 29 January 2017 22:36:26 UTC+1, seguno2013 wrote:Trump order: Nigerians may no longer get 2-year American visa
Nigerians are at risk of losing American entry visas which have two-year validity except President Muhammadu Buhari led government change existing immigration policy with the United States.
An indication of this emerged yesterday as content on the Executive Order signed on Friday by US President Donald Trump became public.
Section 9 of the Executive Order states: “The Secretary of State shall review all nonimmigrant visa reciprocity agreements to ensure that they are, with respect to each visa classification, truly reciprocal insofar as practicable with respect to validity period and fees, as required by sections 221(c) and 281 of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1201(c) and 1351, and other treatment.
“If a country does not treat United States nationals seeking nonimmigrant visas in a reciprocal manner, the Secretary of State shall adjust the visa validity period, fee schedule, or other treatment to match the treatment of United States nationals by the foreign country, to the extent practicable…”
Currently, Nigeria issues one-year multiple-entry visa to Americans, which is a non-reciprocation of the two-year visa US issues to Nigerians.
As Trump order takes immediate effect, Nigerians holding valid two-year US visa may also be affected.
However, Nigeria charges higher fee compared to charges by the American government despite shorter visa validity.
While the US charges Nigerians $160 for a typical visit visa, Nigeria charges $180, in addition to a $35 “processing fee”.
Meanwhile, Iran has announced that it will ban all United States citizens from entering the country.
This was contained in an Iranian Foreign Ministry statement published on state media Saturday.
The country’s decision is in response to President Donald Trump‘s executive order limiting immigration from seven Muslim-majority countries.
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