Monday, January 2, 2017

SV: SV: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: Fragments Of Poetic Thoughts (27)

Must all Nigerians die in the hands of these book haram terrorists masquerading as herdsmen before you and folks like you acknowledge the obvious and show some sensitivity (if not sympathy/empathy) - Okechukwu Ukaga.


I have never supported Boko Haram terrorists or any other criminals in Nigeria masquerading as herdsmen. If criminals and terrorists masquerade as herdsmen to unleash havoc in any community, it will be wrong and unjust to blame herdsmen for the activities of criminals masquerading them. We should rather blame the police and other security agencies for failing to unmask criminals pretending to be herdsmen. Real herdsman would never abandon his herds to go and cause mayhem somewhere else, just as you have rightly observed above.

The insinuation that Abakaliki farmers can produce rice is not the same thing as Abakaliki farmers are producing rice. Instead of directing your anger at herdsmen, you must confront the intellectuals who appropriated Nigeria's oil blocks to themselves, and which they have no technical capacity to exploit. After selling the oil blocks to foreigners, they use their illegal wealth to import plastic rice and other junks into the country.

S. Kadiri
 




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All you need to do is read his past posts here on this issue and you will notice a clear pattern of denying, defending, minimizing, and justifying the atrocities committed by these terrorists. We can quibble about what they are called, but I don't believe that any objective observer can show sympathy for the aggressors and not the victims as your friend has consistently done in this case. Anyone who likes what these people are doing to other human beings, I wish him some of that.

I am far removed physically and socially from the victims (as mist if us on thus list are). But as a human being I cry each time I read about another senseless massacre of people in their own place. And over and over the government seems unwilling to stop these atrocities. As far as I can tell neither the president nor the minister of internal affair has said anything about the recent massacre in southern Kaduna. The number one responsibility of any government is protection if lives and property of citizens. That is why in some other countries, a couple of these incidents would be more than enough for the minister of internal affairs and others to either resign honorably or by force of public opinion or be fired by an engaged and caring president. But it seems that no level of ineffectiveness or dereliction of duty or corruption is enough to get anyone in the good books of any Nigerian government fired.  So Nigeria limps from one problem to the other while the masses suffer, the fat cats enjoy, and some who are comfortably safe in their on setting struggle to convince us that the trouble makers are in fact the victims of humiliation, etc. When, where and how, I now ask?
OU

On Jan 1, 2017 5:55 PM, "Cornelius Hamelberg" <corneliushamelberg@gmail.com> wrote:

Sir,

Before passing judgement on him, Ogbeni Kadiri ought to be given a chance to explain himself. To begin with he could explain what he means by " humiliated" as used in the given contexts.

He pointedly singles out not Fulani but "Hausa herdsmen" for sympathy. Have there been any reports of Hausa herdsmen going on the rampage, encroaching on other peoples' farmlands, their cattle grazing and getting fat on other peoples pastures and crops, and gunning down those who put up any resistance to such encroachments?

If the Emir of Kano once said that Nigerians should be permitted to arm themselves against the Boko Haram terrorists, that ought to extend to other areas where Nigerian law enforcement does not or cannot protect citizens/ farmers who are in need of their protection. Nor should the overdue self-defence committees , in arming themselves for protection of life, limb, property and their own survival (self-protection) be accused of "taking the law into their own hands"

As some of the recalcitrant must know, Verily, Allah sub han t'ala does not like the aggressor , i.e. those who initiate aggression:

al Baqarah 2:190



On Sunday, 1 January 2017 22:54:41 UTC+1, Okechukwu Ukaga wrote:

Kadiri,
Must all Nigerians die in the hands of these book haram terrorists masquerading as herdsmen before you and folks like you acknowledge the obvious and show some sensitivity (if not sympathy/empathy). It seems to me that no type or amount of evidence of the atrocities committed by these terrorists will keep you from sympathizing with these terrorists and defending them. Notably, they are the aggressors and you make it sound like the are the victims. Second, with regard to food production, you should know that by grazing their cattle on farmland (destroying crops, including rice) and eradicating the local people (most of them farmers) these mostly foreign terrorist masquerading as herdsmen are in fact helping cause food shortage. Otherwise, local farmers in places like Abakaliki can produce all the rice Nigeria needs although there are folks who still prefer anything foreign/imported even if inferior. Those can eat plastic rice from China if they so prefer.
Happy new year!
OU

On Jan 1, 2017 2:18 PM, "Salimonu Kadiri" <ogunl...@hotmail.com> wrote:

When rice producing Hausa farmers have been humiliated out of production, it is requisite that Nigerians should eat plastic rice and it is question of time when pounded earth-worms would be imported as substitutes for beefs for Nigerians, when Hausa herdsmen would have been humiliated out of cow breeding enterprise in Nigeria!!

S.Kadiri
 




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"The rices(in Nigeria)conspired to be plastic".

CAO.

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