Greetings Mr. Cecil Gutzmore:
Frankly, I do not even know what the debate is about. Secondly, this idea of "struggle" while sipping tea or other preferred brew, with access to Internet 24/7 in the Diaspora may earn an entry in the Guinness Book of Record. Many may envy the luxury of the warrior-ship.
I made notations to correct factual errors. These were amplified, stretched to create non-issues because they had nothing to do with what I wrote. I do not see why I became a point of reference when the facts are public records. I made a complete withdrawal because the thread became more of a distracting irrelevance and display of irresponsibility. Misrepresenting statements is not a debate; it is more of ambushing.
If you noticed, there is no mutual discussions going; it is barking at the moon by the editors.
Any casual researcher or observer will determine that generally, Contemporary African Diaspora and Historical Diaspora/ African American groups characteristically have different focus and hardly interface. Caribbean Diaspora organizations are naturally committed to Caribbean developments. The stakeholder analysis is important. You have to deal with the realities of defined demographic populations - their formations, patterns, overriding interests, etc, relative to the topics raised. The disinterest or interest reflects priorities.
So why this continued illusionary projection that there is an African Diaspora that normal authorities can feasibly address? When the elaborate fiction was presented to create a Sixth Region, why blame the AU? Is this not the same as a few enacting exploits that even their black neigbors know nothing about? Whom do the advocates speak for?
You see how too easy is it to point the finger? You all are wrong in your attacks against Agenda 2063. Why? None indicated one goal that is anti-development.
The African Union vision is "an integrated, prosperous and peaceful Africa, driven by its own citizens and representing a dynamic force in global arena."
1) Member States adopted a historic, transformative and harmonizing blueprint for Africa's economic, social and political developments. Concrete targets are aligned with Local Government priorities, National and Regional visions and development goals. The Regional Economic Communities (RECs) are the building blocks of Africa's integration.
Known as Agenda 2063, the blueprint is implemented in Five Ten-Year Strategic Phases and a mid-term review after every five years. The first phase is 2014-2023. Agenda 2063 replaces all other blueprints - with major ones incorporated in it. For examples, the implementation of the Algiers Declaration on the Harmonization and Coordination of cultural policies and programs and NEPAD.
Agenda 2063 is anchored on Seven Pillars of Aspirations. The role of the African Citizenry in each is central to its actualization.For example, as the Economic of West African States' vision 2020 says: Moving from an ECOWAS of states to an ECOWAS of people by 2020.
All Member States and Regional Economic Communities are expected to ensure that their outcomes are comparable through harmonization and adherence to continental guidelines with respect to the goals, target and performance indicators, measurements, methodologies for data collection and analysis. Agenda 2063 also covers the UN Sustainable Development Goals.
Have the naysayers read the framework? If so, what specifically are they shouting about? Remember, these are developments that will still be necessary regardless of the type of government. For example, health care clinics are critical in far flung rural villages whether or not there is a unitary or federal government. They have nothing to do with slavery, who owes who? So it is unclear why the attacks and uninformed spews.
Pan African congresses, which you mentioned, may be complementary activities, as any other civic innovations in their proper context, to facilitate common goals. They do not take precedence over Agenda 2063, neither are they instruments to implement any function. The frontiers of Pan-Africanism, beyond the borders of Africa and relating to governments, are based on mutuality, not unilateralism. Even at people-people level, common enterprise is key
Mr. Gutzmore, you are incorrect to characterize me as a "constitutionalist." I provided facts, their contexts and interpretations. I did not advocate for a position. If people do not like the facts, they cannot say I do not look beyond them as a logical conversation. Why? Realistically, I cannot look beyond the facts, legal and political framework to explain what it is. That would giving my opinions. I did not intent to do that.
The AU does not grant citizenship. It is granted by Member States. The analytical definition of Diaspora by AU Member States is reflected in their Diaspora policies designed to facilitate the integration of their nationals living outside their countries. Is this not a proper function of government? So what why should there even be a debate?
Anyone who traces his/her presence in the Diaspora due to migration from a specific African country, with a legal record, is generally covered, including those born in the Diaspora. This constitutionality is increasingly expanded by dual citizenship that passes to the next generation - children born in the Diaspora - through their parents. Is there anything unusual about a standard practice? No.
Currently, there are regional passports. By 2018, the AU passport will be available to all nationals, including those in the Diaspora. It is a concrete step towards integration by facilitating the movements of people, good and services. By law, passport is granted to citizens regardless of where they live. To argue that African governments should not grant a common passport to its citizens until black people all over the world, irrespective of nationality, gets the African passport is as crazy as it is delusional.
There is a Caribbean passport. Was there a debate why only Caribbean nationals? No. Is there a protest over Latin American states, including Brazil and Columbia with a large number of people of African ancestry, discussing common citizenry?
When people travel and live outside their countries, for any duration to even 100 years, their citizenship and legal identity do not necessarily undergo metamorphosis, whereby they became a non-distinguishable population of African ancestry and the governments are absolved of their responsibility toward their nationals. For example, Dr. Kofi Agyapong who came to the US in 1961-2 is still a Ghanaian citizen. Continental Africans or Members of Contemporary Diaspora have legal and constitutional rights by virtue of their nationalities. Some go home, run for public offices, live in both the Diaspora and Africa. If you see the list of candidates of the African Union Youth Commissioners, all the Diaspora candidates are from Member States.
The distinguishing characteristics of any transnational citizenry are 1) the maintained relationship in with their country/region of origin and 2) the multiplicity of activities it simultaneously sustains in hometowns/nations/Regions and in the Diaspora: socially, culturally, economically, and politically.
Can anyone coherently challenge these realities?
The increasing contributions of Contemporary African Diaspora in hometown, national life and regional economies have since surpassed Official Development Assistance. As expected, African governments ought to incentivize this resourceful citizenry. A bird in hand is worth two in the bush, as the saying goes.
Let's take Caribbean population with nationals living in Caribbean countries and outside their homeland. The total population residing in the region is 43,508,745 based on the July 2016 United Nations' estimate, which includes countries such as the US Virgin Islands, Cuba, Guadeloupe, Martinique, Aruba, Puerto Rico that are not members of the Caribbean Community (CARICOM).
CARICOM is a regional authority composed of 15 full members, with a population of 16,743,693 as of 2010. Read, the objectives of the CARICOM are similar or even identical to the AU's in many respects:
The Caribbean governments are also focused on sensitizing and mobilizing their civil society. This includes Caribbean Diaspora on Caribbean development. For examples, there are programs such as youth integration and Re-positioning CARICOM: Implementing the Community Strategic Plan 2015-2019.
Caribbean Diaspora is similar to Contemporary African Diaspora in their allegiance to their respective regions. Here are few examples that draw parallels, based on published researched by the World Bank.
The Caribbean Diaspora is concentrated more in North America and Europe. 90 percent of Caribbean diaspora wants to engage deeper with their region, representing a significant untapped potential for economic development. The large majority is interested in investing in countries of origin. About 70 percent is formally or informally affiliated to organizations in their home countries. Half of those surveyed send remittances and 85 percent give back to the Caribbean either through financial help, or other support in kind.
Caribbean people rely on their relatives abroad for remittances to provide education, shelter, and daily maintenance.The amount of money Latin American and Caribbean Diaspora sent to their respective countries reached $68.3 billion in 2015. Remittances to Haiti accounted for 22.7% of the GNP.
Consider similar outreach for example, Haiti has a Ministry For Haitians Living Abroad. In April 2014, the Ministry announced its Integration Program For Diaspora Professionals.
http://www.haitilibre.com/en/news-13731-haiti-politic-installation-of-the-new-minister-of-haitians-living-abroad.html
In both African 2063 and Caribbean development agenda, there are ample opportunities for mutual cooperation. Unity is not antagonistic to cooperation. In fact, unity builds on mutual interests.
Now, it is my turn to ask questions: Who constitutes African Diaspora and from whose perspectives? AU Member States cannot unilaterally claim people of African ancestry as their citizens without diplomatic and political crises. What I am highlighting is that bilateral cooperation are needed on common developments. Again, even at the people to people level, it will require identified mutual goals.
What are not obvious from the advocates' epistles: what exactly are they contributing in hand, not counting birds in the bushes? Beyond seeking entitlements, what are they doing to uplift people of African descent, beginning from their own neighborhoods? Africa did not benefit from slavery; it was burdened by colonialism. To imagine a debt that Africa owes is suspending realities in an alternative universe.
You wrote: In Ms Joe's approach all effort to claim citizenship on the basis of more distant Ancestral connection are silly. "
Respectfully noted, Mr. Gutzmore, you are incorrect again. By explaining the various avenues to obtain citizenship, based on the laws of 55 African countries, does not make me an author on citizenship, let alone using an approach.
At least 200 million people of African descent live in just the Americas based on the UN report on the Decade of People of African Descent. If the advocates want a blanket policy to grant automatic citizenship to a conceivable 300 million people, as some reports place the numbers, it is the onus of the advocates to pursue this goal against the backdrop of practicality. Whatever their notion, they cannot impose their agenda on everyone.
The advocates are being ironical in claim of betrayal or embarrassments. The pioneers of Pan Africanism did not demonstrate a debilitating form of entitlement. Historical Diaspora members do not need citizenship to explore socio - economic opportunities in Africa. The Chinese are doing so. Do the lead shouters come up with any program for partnerships with their own funds? If not, what kind of unity of purpose do they have in mind and who should pay? These are the knots and bolts that are absent in their advocacy. Sure, it would be helpful if they promote any cause? Can they learn to do so while sober and rational?
Meanwhile, African governments and communities, face a myriad of challenges - from quality of life amenities, unemployment, security issues, to capacity building. These are considered more immediate priorities to African governments and Contemporary African Diaspora organizations. Why should there be a debate or mediation?
Lastly, read the naughty tantrum: maybe they (continental Africans' need 'Jesus' to raise them up, because the Afrikan Revolution appears completely meaningless, thus senseless in its endeavor to the majority of our people at home let alone the diaspora and where the so called African Revolution in all honesty, its has been about skin-colour ending up benefiting only a few and it is these jokers that have sold Afrika to the farmer whites imperialists, Chinese and Indians. Let us not spare the truth here, but to talk it out loud because have a responsibility to do so.
The rant explains why mature and rational people do not engage in these types of "debates."
Best,
MsJoe
Frankly, I do not even know what the debate is about. Secondly, this idea of "struggle" while sipping tea or other preferred brew, with access to Internet 24/7 in the Diaspora may earn an entry in the Guinness Book of Record. Many may envy the luxury of the warrior-ship.
I made notations to correct factual errors. These were amplified, stretched to create non-issues because they had nothing to do with what I wrote. I do not see why I became a point of reference when the facts are public records. I made a complete withdrawal because the thread became more of a distracting irrelevance and display of irresponsibility. Misrepresenting statements is not a debate; it is more of ambushing.
If you noticed, there is no mutual discussions going; it is barking at the moon by the editors.
Any casual researcher or observer will determine that generally, Contemporary African Diaspora and Historical Diaspora/ African American groups characteristically have different focus and hardly interface. Caribbean Diaspora organizations are naturally committed to Caribbean developments. The stakeholder analysis is important. You have to deal with the realities of defined demographic populations - their formations, patterns, overriding interests, etc, relative to the topics raised. The disinterest or interest reflects priorities.
So why this continued illusionary projection that there is an African Diaspora that normal authorities can feasibly address? When the elaborate fiction was presented to create a Sixth Region, why blame the AU? Is this not the same as a few enacting exploits that even their black neigbors know nothing about? Whom do the advocates speak for?
You see how too easy is it to point the finger? You all are wrong in your attacks against Agenda 2063. Why? None indicated one goal that is anti-development.
The African Union vision is "an integrated, prosperous and peaceful Africa, driven by its own citizens and representing a dynamic force in global arena."
1) Member States adopted a historic, transformative and harmonizing blueprint for Africa's economic, social and political developments. Concrete targets are aligned with Local Government priorities, National and Regional visions and development goals. The Regional Economic Communities (RECs) are the building blocks of Africa's integration.
Known as Agenda 2063, the blueprint is implemented in Five Ten-Year Strategic Phases and a mid-term review after every five years. The first phase is 2014-2023. Agenda 2063 replaces all other blueprints - with major ones incorporated in it. For examples, the implementation of the Algiers Declaration on the Harmonization and Coordination of cultural policies and programs and NEPAD.
Agenda 2063 is anchored on Seven Pillars of Aspirations. The role of the African Citizenry in each is central to its actualization.For example, as the Economic of West African States' vision 2020 says: Moving from an ECOWAS of states to an ECOWAS of people by 2020.
All Member States and Regional Economic Communities are expected to ensure that their outcomes are comparable through harmonization and adherence to continental guidelines with respect to the goals, target and performance indicators, measurements, methodologies for data collection and analysis. Agenda 2063 also covers the UN Sustainable Development Goals.
Have the naysayers read the framework? If so, what specifically are they shouting about? Remember, these are developments that will still be necessary regardless of the type of government. For example, health care clinics are critical in far flung rural villages whether or not there is a unitary or federal government. They have nothing to do with slavery, who owes who? So it is unclear why the attacks and uninformed spews.
Pan African congresses, which you mentioned, may be complementary activities, as any other civic innovations in their proper context, to facilitate common goals. They do not take precedence over Agenda 2063, neither are they instruments to implement any function. The frontiers of Pan-Africanism, beyond the borders of Africa and relating to governments, are based on mutuality, not unilateralism. Even at people-people level, common enterprise is key
Mr. Gutzmore, you are incorrect to characterize me as a "constitutionalist." I provided facts, their contexts and interpretations. I did not advocate for a position. If people do not like the facts, they cannot say I do not look beyond them as a logical conversation. Why? Realistically, I cannot look beyond the facts, legal and political framework to explain what it is. That would giving my opinions. I did not intent to do that.
The AU does not grant citizenship. It is granted by Member States. The analytical definition of Diaspora by AU Member States is reflected in their Diaspora policies designed to facilitate the integration of their nationals living outside their countries. Is this not a proper function of government? So what why should there even be a debate?
Anyone who traces his/her presence in the Diaspora due to migration from a specific African country, with a legal record, is generally covered, including those born in the Diaspora. This constitutionality is increasingly expanded by dual citizenship that passes to the next generation - children born in the Diaspora - through their parents. Is there anything unusual about a standard practice? No.
Currently, there are regional passports. By 2018, the AU passport will be available to all nationals, including those in the Diaspora. It is a concrete step towards integration by facilitating the movements of people, good and services. By law, passport is granted to citizens regardless of where they live. To argue that African governments should not grant a common passport to its citizens until black people all over the world, irrespective of nationality, gets the African passport is as crazy as it is delusional.
There is a Caribbean passport. Was there a debate why only Caribbean nationals? No. Is there a protest over Latin American states, including Brazil and Columbia with a large number of people of African ancestry, discussing common citizenry?
When people travel and live outside their countries, for any duration to even 100 years, their citizenship and legal identity do not necessarily undergo metamorphosis, whereby they became a non-distinguishable population of African ancestry and the governments are absolved of their responsibility toward their nationals. For example, Dr. Kofi Agyapong who came to the US in 1961-2 is still a Ghanaian citizen. Continental Africans or Members of Contemporary Diaspora have legal and constitutional rights by virtue of their nationalities. Some go home, run for public offices, live in both the Diaspora and Africa. If you see the list of candidates of the African Union Youth Commissioners, all the Diaspora candidates are from Member States.
The distinguishing characteristics of any transnational citizenry are 1) the maintained relationship in with their country/region of origin and 2) the multiplicity of activities it simultaneously sustains in hometowns/nations/Regions and in the Diaspora: socially, culturally, economically, and politically.
Can anyone coherently challenge these realities?
The increasing contributions of Contemporary African Diaspora in hometown, national life and regional economies have since surpassed Official Development Assistance. As expected, African governments ought to incentivize this resourceful citizenry. A bird in hand is worth two in the bush, as the saying goes.
Let's take Caribbean population with nationals living in Caribbean countries and outside their homeland. The total population residing in the region is 43,508,745 based on the July 2016 United Nations' estimate, which includes countries such as the US Virgin Islands, Cuba, Guadeloupe, Martinique, Aruba, Puerto Rico that are not members of the Caribbean Community (CARICOM).
CARICOM is a regional authority composed of 15 full members, with a population of 16,743,693 as of 2010. Read, the objectives of the CARICOM are similar or even identical to the AU's in many respects:
- Improve standards of living and work; the full employment of labor and other factors of production; accelerated, coordinated and sustained economic development and convergence; expansion of trade and economic relations with third States; enhanced levels of international competitiveness; organization for increased production and productivity; achievement of a greater measure of economic leverage; effectiveness of Member States in dealing with third States, groups of States and entities of any description; and the enhanced coordination of Member States' foreign and foreign economic policies and enhanced functional cooperation.
The Caribbean governments are also focused on sensitizing and mobilizing their civil society. This includes Caribbean Diaspora on Caribbean development. For examples, there are programs such as youth integration and Re-positioning CARICOM: Implementing the Community Strategic Plan 2015-2019.
Caribbean Diaspora is similar to Contemporary African Diaspora in their allegiance to their respective regions. Here are few examples that draw parallels, based on published researched by the World Bank.
The Caribbean Diaspora is concentrated more in North America and Europe. 90 percent of Caribbean diaspora wants to engage deeper with their region, representing a significant untapped potential for economic development. The large majority is interested in investing in countries of origin. About 70 percent is formally or informally affiliated to organizations in their home countries. Half of those surveyed send remittances and 85 percent give back to the Caribbean either through financial help, or other support in kind.
Caribbean people rely on their relatives abroad for remittances to provide education, shelter, and daily maintenance.The amount of money Latin American and Caribbean Diaspora sent to their respective countries reached $68.3 billion in 2015. Remittances to Haiti accounted for 22.7% of the GNP.
Consider similar outreach for example, Haiti has a Ministry For Haitians Living Abroad. In April 2014, the Ministry announced its Integration Program For Diaspora Professionals.
http://www.haitilibre.com/en/news-13731-haiti-politic-installation-of-the-new-minister-of-haitians-living-abroad.html
In both African 2063 and Caribbean development agenda, there are ample opportunities for mutual cooperation. Unity is not antagonistic to cooperation. In fact, unity builds on mutual interests.
Now, it is my turn to ask questions: Who constitutes African Diaspora and from whose perspectives? AU Member States cannot unilaterally claim people of African ancestry as their citizens without diplomatic and political crises. What I am highlighting is that bilateral cooperation are needed on common developments. Again, even at the people to people level, it will require identified mutual goals.
What are not obvious from the advocates' epistles: what exactly are they contributing in hand, not counting birds in the bushes? Beyond seeking entitlements, what are they doing to uplift people of African descent, beginning from their own neighborhoods? Africa did not benefit from slavery; it was burdened by colonialism. To imagine a debt that Africa owes is suspending realities in an alternative universe.
You wrote: In Ms Joe's approach all effort to claim citizenship on the basis of more distant Ancestral connection are silly. "
Respectfully noted, Mr. Gutzmore, you are incorrect again. By explaining the various avenues to obtain citizenship, based on the laws of 55 African countries, does not make me an author on citizenship, let alone using an approach.
At least 200 million people of African descent live in just the Americas based on the UN report on the Decade of People of African Descent. If the advocates want a blanket policy to grant automatic citizenship to a conceivable 300 million people, as some reports place the numbers, it is the onus of the advocates to pursue this goal against the backdrop of practicality. Whatever their notion, they cannot impose their agenda on everyone.
The advocates are being ironical in claim of betrayal or embarrassments. The pioneers of Pan Africanism did not demonstrate a debilitating form of entitlement. Historical Diaspora members do not need citizenship to explore socio - economic opportunities in Africa. The Chinese are doing so. Do the lead shouters come up with any program for partnerships with their own funds? If not, what kind of unity of purpose do they have in mind and who should pay? These are the knots and bolts that are absent in their advocacy. Sure, it would be helpful if they promote any cause? Can they learn to do so while sober and rational?
Meanwhile, African governments and communities, face a myriad of challenges - from quality of life amenities, unemployment, security issues, to capacity building. These are considered more immediate priorities to African governments and Contemporary African Diaspora organizations. Why should there be a debate or mediation?
Lastly, read the naughty tantrum: maybe they (continental Africans' need 'Jesus' to raise them up, because the Afrikan Revolution appears completely meaningless, thus senseless in its endeavor to the majority of our people at home let alone the diaspora and where the so called African Revolution in all honesty, its has been about skin-colour ending up benefiting only a few and it is these jokers that have sold Afrika to the farmer whites imperialists, Chinese and Indians. Let us not spare the truth here, but to talk it out loud because have a responsibility to do so.
The rant explains why mature and rational people do not engage in these types of "debates."
Best,
MsJoe
To Lead You Must be a Servant
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From: cecil gutzmore <cecilgutzmore@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Thu, Jan 5, 2017 2:51 am
Subject: Fwd: A view in response to a debate. Fwd: [SelfHelpNews] CLARIFICATION ABOUT ARTICLE ON AFRICAN UNION 29 December 2016
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Sent: Thu, Jan 5, 2017 2:51 am
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Greetings Ms Joe,
Given your complete or partial withdrawal from this encounter, I doubt that you will have seen my response to it which is below. Earl Simms remarks address it. Your response would be valued by me.
Regards,
Cecil
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From: Earl Simms <laidbackearl_2@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: 5 January 2017 at 06:22:37 GMT
To: cecil gutzmore <cecilgutzmore@yahoo.com>, "selfhelpnews@googlegroups.com" <selfhelpnews@googlegroups.com>, "selfhelpnews@ubol.com" <selfhelpnews@ubol.com>
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Reply-To: Earl Simms <laidbackearl_2@yahoo.co.uk>
Greeting Bro Cecil Gutzmore and other contributors
An excellent analysis of the situation confronting us Global Afrikans and Afrika. You have alerted us to several comparisons such as China, India, Brazil and to a lesser extent Cuba. Of the first two successful nations, there is no evidence of them attempting to ever deceived their diaspora and to excluded them from their protracted struggle and here the same cannot be said about Africans and its European creation 'Africans' (unconscious people with no self-respect over their past and aliment with their global family - mainly dead people to be direct). What an embarrassment to the ancestors these later day leaders have become where the effect is being felt on a daily basis by the vast majority of Afrikans and will be worse for those to come due to the ill preparedness to put our children in the strongest position possible? Frankly speaking, the continental ruling class have betrayed us historical diasporas and this must be addressed.
As Panafrikanists we have done all that can be done to resurrected the very dead at home who are responsible for the state Afrika is in today and not us, maybe they (continental Africans' need 'Jesus' to raise them up, because the Afrikan Revolution appears completely meaningless, thus senseless in its endeavor to the majority of our people at home let alone the diaspora and where the so called African Revolution in all honesty, its has been about skin-colour ending up benefiting only a few and it is these jokers that have sold Afrika to the farmer whites imperialists, Chinese and Indians. Let us not spare the truth here, but to talk it out loud because have a responsibility to do so. What will be telling our ancestors when we meet them over what we failed to do?
Bro Cecil, we have come along way from the days of "Race and Class' which you Bro Ricky Cambridge, and Bro Colin Presscord used to put out to re-oriented us as to who we are and the dynamics that confronted us young people at the time and of course let us not forget the great of work of the late Alderwoman Gee Bernard at the same time on the political front. Imagine if we diasporan were allowed to return home as of right, Afrika would not be in the state that it is today, objectively a pitiful state where it cannot defend its self militarily because the neo-colonist leaderships have colluded and compromised our struggle for gains for themselves only. I have a lot of respect for your writings and views including Bro Prescod who was one of my undergraduate teacher in the 1980's, let me not say much here and hear the contributions of others for your academic analysis speaks aloud.
Love and Light
Kilanji Bangarah
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--The auto correct introduced some errors. They are corrected in this version. As are one or two other points.
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From: cecil gutzmore <cecilgutzmore@yahoo.com>
Date: 4 January 2017 at 08:48:38 GMT
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Subject: Re: [SelfHelpNews] CLARIFICATION ABOUT ARTICLE ON AFRICAN UNION 29 December 2016
Greetings All,Clearly it is good advice to leave well alone!But all is far from well with and for Afrika/ns.Jumping in may thus be a duty of a kind!
I am impressed alike by the calm, informed approach of Ms Joe and by the passion and insights of the Editorial Collective and others involved in this discussion. There is though good reason to deplore the ease and comfort with which folk rush to vituperation and insults of the most deadly kind.
I cannot see the problem of these only apparently conflicting positions being resolved by mediation as was recently suggested/offered.
The precondition for moving forwards is a clear even a ruthless understanding of the fundamental issues both parties are - with total and honest commitment - seeking to address.
The issues in question are those produced by the existentially threatening crisis situation of Afrika in the world of the wolves of White Supremacy and other also quite deadly enemies finds itself. This crisis is expressed and recognisable in all areas of Afrikan life. Disempowerment is a bitch - pardon the phrase which I sincerely hope is not sexist.
Whose fault is that crisis?
Where and with whom does the solution lay?
Ms Joe appears a constitutionalist to her very core: with a clear penchant for confining matters to the strictly legal level. It is as if nothing exists for her beyond and above the level of certain juridical entities (specifically the Afrikan Union (AU) and its member states). These must be related to through their constitutions by individual Afrikans who are either citizens or non-citizens. The latter will belong to one of two Diasporas. Individual Afrikans domiciled abroad who have legal rights to the citizenship of the African states from which they or their parent 'recently' migrated belong to the "new Afrikan Diaspora". Those of the older, the "enslavement produced Diaspora", have no such rights and can access the citizenship of particular Afrikan states only by applying in the manner constitutionally and statutorily (legally) provided for. In Ms Joe's approach all effort to claim citizenship on the basis of more distant Ancestral connection are silly. "Old Diasporan" individuals (even in batches approaching 40) can access Afrikan citizenship only by qualifying for it legally. In the same manner as Chinese, Whites and others.
No one has bothered to mention that Old Diasporan Afrikans are perhaps the only people in the world without a virtually unqualified "right of return"! Yet the why and wherefore of this is one crucial matter involved.
Nor does anyone trouble to notice that in the absence of a single Afrikan citizenship, granting us members of the Old Diaspora "Right of Return" to any country of our choice would give us rights superior to all Continental Afrikans who have no freedom to reside anywhere they choose in Afrika. These related matters must surely be solved simultaneously when the time comes. Soon!
The other party to this debate is rightly, righteously focussed on the deepening existential crisis Afrika faces; on the contribution some members of the enslavement-produced Old Diaspora made to the modern conceptualisation of Afrika, to its past liberation struggles and can ostensibly make in the future; and on the solution of the crisis. A certain Diaspora chauvinism is not hard to detect in their discourse: "Afrika awaits her creators" - us Diasporan Afrikans? Only thus can a proposal such as to appoint a minor Diaspora activist and administrator to lead the AU arise!
Those of this other party heap deadly blame on the AU and the Continental Afrikan leadership generally for the crisis Afrika faces; for the fact that Afrika has not been united; for the failure to grant automatic Afrikan citizenship/"right of return" to Afrikans of the "Old"/enslavement Diaspora; and for much more.
Not unlike Ms Joe this other party speaks very little about any forces with any negatively determining role and influence on Afrika/ns impacting from outside the Continent. Yet both parties know very well that Afrika has ruthless, exploitative and oppressive external enemies and that their power (AFRICOM for example) is massive and active.
For this second party, the blame for the crisis belongs (almost) entirely to failing, incompetent, deficient educationally and "mentally" - from a proper Afrikan standpoint - Continental Afrikan leaders.
--- All that total absence of principled organisation of the Diaspora!Nor is any time spent critiquing the "old Disspors". This is implicitly judged positively in terms of its great (past) leaders who have contributed to Afrikan liberation. But there is a loud silence about the fact that the 'Afrikan' states of the Diaspora are in no better shape than those on the Continent; that Afrikan-American struggle culminated in Obama; that only numerically and culturally are Afri-Brazilians In any way consequential. Much should be heard from those on both sides about this state of affairs. In none of those Diaspora 'Afrikan' state have their majority Afrikan communities self-organised to make those states actually Afrikan.
Both sides can be read and reread without encountering any really serious, systematic analysis of Afrika's objective crisis condition:
Where is the comparative analysis of the differing conditions of China and India even Cuba vs Afrika?Who speaks of the fact that China had a real late 1940s revolution through which it broke with Western White Supremacy and empowered itself it the manner that it has. Compare China now with China a century ago. The difference is its not merely paper/flag independence but a real Revolution. Cuba, too!India's size - much smaller than Afrika but big enough - and its national unity have been key. The West is not trampling India. Indian capital is exported to Europe. India is a nuclear power with a space programme. Compare Afrika. Of course the Indian ruling does not bother about inequality.
And there is Afrika: no Revolution and no unity! Whistling in the dark or painting wonderful intellectual pictures about reparation: those who even bother.
Who speaks to the fact that the unity proposed and fought for by Garvey & Nkrumah was sabotaged by White Supremacy using its un/conscious Afrikan agents to achieve a structure that expresses not the will of the Afrikan majority but of White Power?
Who bothers to analyse the fact that the move from OAU to AU-NEPAD was a joke modernisation as empty as all the talk about Afrikan Renaissance that accompanied it?
Who bothers to analyse the overwhelmingly important fact that the great Afrikan victory over colonialism (5th PAC, its aftermath and all that!) simply installed the current deadly neo-colonial order everywhere in Global Afrika as its major outcome? Who cares that even the OAU's commitment to liberation struggle in Southern Afrika brought forth just the last major neo-colonial Afrikan state - Azania/South Afrika?Who in the debate takes note that the old enemy now rules precisely through that neo-colonial order?Who in the debate recognises that the resultant neo-colonial structures are the primary manifestation of the combined internal and external enemy of the Afrikan majority: that they cannot be reformed but have to be defeated in the revolutionary process that alone will bring liberation, unity and reparation - reparations both as revolutionary self-repair and monetary compensation?Who in the exchange addresses the active Arabisation of Afrikan and how to respond to it? What is to be made of the fact that so much of the population of the North of Afrika are Arabised Afrikans who can't be written off any more than can the lands they occupy. Afrika whole and indivisible, surely?What are the implication for Afrikan cultural preservation, let alone liberation of the quickening march of Islamisation and Christianisation, both so called "religion of the book" being fundamentally disrespectful of Afrikan culture?
Who in the discussion takes the time to see that all else is self- and Afrikan people- deceiving tosh no matter how well organised or ideologically accomplished in presentation?--- All this tailing after the AU instead of treating it as the institutional embodiment of neo-colonialism that must be torn down!---All this vituperation directed at ourselves!
---All this myth-making about the 6th region which for the AU was never much more than an empty gesture!---All the tailing after the UN with its frothy "Decades" of this and that!---All this big stuff mentioning 2063?---All this calling of ineffectual Pan-Afrikan Congresses: two now with exactly the same name (8PAC) that focus on everything except defeating the enemy!---All that failure to ask the questions Garvey asked 103 years ago! And all that failure to follow up with revolutionary action as appropriate to our time as Garvey's action was to his. Garvey effectively addressed imperialism as colonialism: we must defeat imperialism as neo-colonialism!
Afrika and Afrikans can only save ourselves by the praxis of self-liberation and self-unification that is achievable only through the Afrikan revolution. The praxis of Revolutionary Pan-Africanism is the answer!
Is that not the truth of this moment in our history that both Ms Joe and those ostensibly calling her to account have radically failed to address in the noisy exchange while holding the same ground but too often disguising this with an excess of insults and vituperation?
In struggle,
Cecil Gutzmore
Sent from my iPhone--Evelyn, You know that I do not like you but I tell people about your wit, intelligence. And here is another Masterpiece from your brain; you need to trademark or patent this:"Nobody needs to study history to acquire common sense."Yaya Fanusie, PhD
On Sun, Jan 1, 2017 at 2:31 PM, <msjoe21st@aol.com> wrote:
If you were responsible for supporting families and communities in Africa, providing social security safety nets, of which remittances play a great role, you will not too much time on your hands to be lecturing on www to audiences you do not know. Many came to the Diaspora with less than $200, pulled by the bootstrap, and they choose to give back to their hometowns as a primary focus. Whatever your own focus is, engaged in it without expecting others to make it their priority. Nobody needs to study history to acquire common sense.
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If you were kidnapped, raped, your children wrested from your arms or from your womb and carried away into captivity, what passport or visa should their grandchildren require to recliam their stolen inheritance? According to Malcolm, we got alot of revolutionary ducks running around. Study our history little sister and you may recognize the superdiciality and treachery of your words.
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Is writing idly and irrationally on www, attacking people, adding an ounce of sense to whatever history? If people want to becoming citizen who is responsible for that? They do not know how to read the conditions, meet the conditions, and assume the financial responsibility for their welfare? What has that got to with anyone else?
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Those who fail to study history will be condemned to relive it.
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May suggest that there is real life and not everyone is predisposed to be preoccupied in idle banters on www by creating imaginary issues to engage in character assassination? What normal persons read these caterwauling and take them seriously? Many stay away from these stuffs. Stop using my name in the nonsense.
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These people just rant when high on doses of unreality, create and distort what someone writes to suit whatever their aims.
Even 10 year pupils understand that citizenship is based on constitution of the country. Chinese, Indians, etc, can acquire citizenship in Africa by following and meeting the conditions. Talking about 1800s, Bismarck, etc - what sense does that make?
MsJoe
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Sent: Sat, Dec 31, 2016 9:07 am
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Hello:
I may also add that, it is not wise to create scapegoats and rain your anger on people who have nothing to do with what you are writing about. Dual citizenship cannot be a smoking gun unless you are irrationally saying that citizens who migrate for whatever reason should loose their citizenship. Dual citizenship is the retention of citizenship not creating a new one. The Constitution of Member States, like anywhere in the world, is clear and authoritative.
If you want to challenge the Constitution of various nations, you are at liberty to do so. But, again, creating scapegoats to justify your attacks is a wrong ploy.
Best,
MsJoe
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Sent: Sat, Dec 31, 2016 7:58 am
Subject: Re: CLARIFICATION ABOUT ARTICLE ON AFRICAN UNION 29 December 2016
Hello Brother:
Thanks. But I think you are making a mistake, which must be corrected because it is misleading. I write as Evelyn Joe, not a representative of AU or anybody's PR. The eNewsletter is not produced or controlled by the AU. The information is widely read.
Secondly, as I emphasized, what I write about universal practice by governments all over the world, which can be researched, and consistent with Diaspora policies.
Third, it seems you are bent on creating a target, then generate a quarrel for the sake of a quarrel where non exists. The Constitution of any government is the ultimate guide. Any person who wants to become a citizen can simply research the process and conditions in the country of interest. As simple as that. Therefore, your statement that someone disagrees with me begs the question: how? I merely refer people to the Constitutions and Policies.
A correction: You used an old figure for 2010 or so. Contemporary Diaspora sends more than $120 billion a year in Remittances, considering that more than 50% goes through informal sources - as acknowledged by the researchers. In December 2016, Nigeria Diaspora sent $35 billion in 2016 within 11 months, which has been acknowledged by the government - and this just the formal source.
Remittance is source of Domestic Resource Mobilization used by governments, including European, Chinese, Indian, Israeli, Arab, Haitian, Jamaican, Turkish, Brazilian governments, etc. It is not unique to Africa.
Based on published reports, ECOWAS Diaspora has gradually become a major source of financing for development in West Africa. Remittances have registered average annual growth of 5% per year since 2005. Remittances from Contemporary African Diaspora has since dwarfed Official Development Assistance. What I write is based on research on developments.
None of the issue you are writing here has anything to do with me because I am not party to any dispute. Accordingly, I respectfully request that I am not included in whatever your issues are. I am not your right target.
Best and Happy New Year.
MsJoe
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Subject: Re: [SelfHelpNews] CLARIFICATION ABOUT ARTICLE ON AFRICAN UNION 29 December 2016
On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 12:16 AM, Self-Help News <selfhelpnews@ubol.com> wrote:
--Greetings Ms Joe, Afrikan Sister,We appreciate your response. The true intention of the article is to illuminate the facts as we saw them based on intensive examinations of public records and interactions with readers and others.You are quoted because you are the Editor of, "The Continental" , ( formerly "The Diaspora Dispatch") which presents itself as an authoritative PR for the AU, and the quote was taken from that regularly released journal.Crucially, we are not aware of, and you have not pointed out, any inaccuracies in the article, to which you referred. We got the impression that you were uncomfortable about the transparency of the publication.You made references to 'dual nationality' and who may be entitled to that. This has never been in dispute with us. In fact, that is one of the AU smoking guns, as it were, which demonstrates its perception of two distinct Diasporas, as pointed out in the article.This is also evidence of the AU lack of vision and effective leadership, not being able to generate protocols to integrate the children of Afrikans kidnapped from Afrika, and brought to the 'new world', over three hundred years ago and those travelled by free will to the 'new world' from Afrika less than one hundred years ago, including their offspring.Current thinking about African nationality is relatively new, and given birth largely by European Powers' Berlin Congress 1884-5, when the African Continent was balkanised, by European colonisation and imperialism.This came on the backs of over three hundred years of the depopulating of the Continent of Africa, via the Institution of Chattel Slavery primarily. Before Berlin, Afrikan functioned effectively for thousands of years as micro-nations(tribes). There was no need for passports and visas. Certainly Hannibal Barca (247-184 BC) and his army and Publius Cornelius Scipio Africanus (236–183 BC) and his army did not need them.The damages caused by Chattel Slavery and balkanisation must be corrected, in order that Afrika and her peoples will become whole again. This is what was envisioned by Our Ancestors, from Marcus Mosiah Garvey, Kwame Nkrumah, Ahmed Ben Bella, Julius Nyerere, Jomo Kenyatta, Gamal Abdel Nasser Hussein, HIM Hails Selassie I and Muammar Mohammed Abu Minyar Gaddafi, in modern times, naming only a few. These were emblematic of the mentally freed Afrikans of their time.This Afrikan consciousness were clearly exhibited from 18th to the 21st Century. This brief roll call is seriously impressive - Olaudah Equiano, Ottobah Cugoano, Edward Wilmot Blyden, James Africanus Beale Horton, JE Casely Hayford, Martin Robinson Delany, Dusé Mohamed Ali George Padmore, Isaac Wallace-Johnson, Frantz Fanon, Aimé Césaire, Paul Robeson, CLR James, WEB Du Bois, Walter Rodney Aimé Césaire, Léopold Sédar Senghor, Cheikh Anta Diop, Ladipo Solanke. Sékou Ahmed Touré, , Amilcar Cabral, Thomas Sankara, Patrice Lumumba, Molefi Kete Asante, Jomo Kenyatta, Robert Mangaliso Sobukwe, Nnamdi Azikiwe, Abubakar Tafawa Balewa, Steve Biko, Kwame Ture, John Garang de Mabior, Amy Euphemia Jacques Garvey, Amy Ashwood Garvey, Dudley Thompson, and Fidel Alejandro Castro Ruz . Where is the equivalent leaderships and sacrifices of today's AU leaders, consistent with this brief of a very long list of our Ancestors and Allies and their sacrifices for Our Afrikan Sovereignty?We suggest that you are being disingenuous to suggest that SOVEREIGN NATIONS are incapable of offering dual citizenships to individuals not born within their jurisdictions. You mentioned 'Trinidad and Tobago and Guyana', as examples.The Ghanaian Government would disagree with you. That government has in place firm policy of giving citizenships to Afrikans from the Diaspora. The following is a recently published article.• 29 December 2016Ghana Granted Diasporan Citizenship"Thirty-four members of the African-Caribbean diaspora in the country have been granted Ghanaian citizenship following the approval of the President John Dramani Mahama, on 28 December 2016.Presenting certificates of citizenship to them, Mr Mahama said their naturalisation made them entitled to every privilege deserving and due any Ghanaian."He said he was optimistic that the skills and knowledge acquired by the naturalised Ghanaians would contribute immensely to the development of the country." You have expressed so much gratitude to me and other stakeholders for the opportunity given you today, but I do not think you have to thank me because I have only restored to you what rightfully belongs to you and was painfully taken away" he said ."Mr Mahama said in giving them the opportunity to become Ghanaians, he was only following the footsteps of our forebears, including Ghana's first President, Osagyefo Dr Kwame Nkrumah, George Padmore , Dr W.E. B Du Bois and Martin Luther king, who led and gave a foundation to Pan-Africanism."He said Ghana was the first country in sub-Saharan Africa to gain its independence, and had since become and would continue to be the headquarters for the fight for African liberation and the beacon of African emancipation.He expressed the hope that the introduction of Africans applying for visa on arrival in Ghana would be extended to Africans in the diasporian to facilitate their visit and stay in Ghana to contribute to national development."AU Agenda 2063 is, on the face of it, a potential distraction to continental Afrikan development. Examine how Europe, America, China, India, Japan, etc. developed. What was their equivalent Agenda 2063?Moreover, each nation had control of their own natural resources and growing manufacturing base. In the case of Western Europe, If they did not have the resources, they stole what they needed from other nations, like Africa, Asia, South, Central and Latin America, for example, to develop themselves. America – it took theirs from Native Americans.Today, the indigenous Africans on the Continent of Africa, even with Agenda 2063, are not in control of its natural resources, it does not have the economic and financial structures or capacity for Agenda 2063 to be realised in the present bureaucratic configuration of the AU.This is so glaringly obvious in places like South Africa, Namibia, etc. where land reforms and fair distributions of the nations' wealth remain very sensitive issues. Yet we hear of vast sways of Afrikan lands sold, even parts of traditional micro nations lands, to foreign investors. But not enough returns to afford better standards of living for indigenous Afrikans.One might well ask, since their political independence, what proportion of African land and wealth were or being distributed to the indigenous peoples? Have you ever thought of that?Because you and others currently may not be able to see the bigger picture and contend yourselves with geopolitical froth and sleight of hand by foreigners, that does not mean that others, who are in tune with Afrika's Heart Beats, are not aware of the potential ruse and devices constructed and being maintained in the shadows for the purpose of containing and managing Afrika and Afrikans global development.Under the current AU structure, given Afrika's vast unskilled labour force and, to some extent, unhealthy young population, Afrika is likely to disintegrate. The unskilled need to be skilled, there needs to be job opportunities to absorbed them in the economy. Foreign investments are not about skilling the unskilled and providing jobs for them.Foreigners know that. One suspects that some of them don't mind, because they believe that they could manage such disintegration for their benefits. Others believe that Afrika and Afrikans must be given a chance to grow and prosper. The industrialisation of Afrika might bring some hope for Afrikan young people. But, if Afrika were to be industrialised, it would be competing with current investors. Would they like that?With the current AU Structure, Afrika and Afrikans are weak. Who are strong in Africa today are foreign investors, having their nation's vast military assets in the background, capable and willing to intervene when necessary to protect what they deemed to be their interests. Some foreigners are likely to apply the 'doctrine of exceptionality' to justify their intrusive interference in African affairs in future, if they are not doing that already.We have 'Joint Africa and Foreign Military Command' in Africa; but who are driving the operational policy of this Command – Afrikans or foreigners? Who has the funds to maintain such a Command? Do Africans have a veto as to what foreign troops can and cannot do in Africa? And if it has, how could Africa enforce such a veto?For continental Africans to agree this type of arrangement is fairly obvious that they are 'mentally blind'. Winnie Mandela, if she were in Leadership, it would be unlikely she would agree to such a 'ruse'. Why – because her mental eyes are opened.In some cases, what is happening in Africa, impacting African interests, is like sweets being taken from children, it would seem. Several African states have been relegated to depending on remittances from abroad. This type of income outstripped what the states are getting from income by foreign investors extracting from the African soil.One is not aware of any serious plan for Afrika's industrialisation. Let imagine a hundred years ahead, areas of Africa will become vast and polluted quarries. The investing nations will have been industrialised, developed and perhaps controlling vast sways of Africa, including having political rights. That would have sprung from the current influx of foreign nationals arriving in their million in Africa as settlers, and they are not Historical Diasporans returning back home.The AU is indeed "self-fish, captive and ineffectual". "Blind" can be added to that description. What is the material evidence to say otherwise?But it needs not remain so. Afrika's Historical Diaspora had always considered that it had a duty to support and protect 'Mother Afrika'. That was the motivation which drove generations of Diasporans over one hundred and fifty years."A litany of hostile rhetoric and the usual insults", you stated. Your interpretation is extreme. That is not and will never be our intention. It is time you and those who hold your views re-evaluate. You have a duty to posterity. In doing so, you might be able to consider an alternative approach to Afrika's current process of development, with less risks of the Afrikan people losing more in the future.Don't be angry with us, Sister Evelyn.We are fully aware of Afrika and Diaspora history, and the consequences thereof. We can see no indication which suggests that history will not be repeated, if WE Afrikans and Allies failed to have in place collective and effective measures to contain and manage the mind-set which created, and still creating, havoc impacting Afrikans.Foreign investments in Afrika should not be given priority over Afrikan Sovereignty. You might have a fat bank account and lose your liberty. It would be a matter of time when you will also lose your bank account. Sovereignty must take precedence.WE should not be comfortable until WE see effective and fair land reforms and distributions of wealth among ordinary people in Afrika and Diaspora, in order to reduce poverty and increase higher standards of living, the creation of real and lasting opportunities, reduce frustrations, ignorance, anger, abuse, loss of life and liberty among the population.This is not about academic exercises. It is about consistent pragmatic policies and actions for consistent pragmatic results. Afrika and her Diaspora must be in the front line of influencing Afrikans destiny. WE must believe in COLLECTIVE SELF. Have we now positioned ourselves in order that posterity will have a head start, when they arrived?At the same time, WE must be mindful of the importance to creating and developing lasting and productive partnerships with others of good-will, sense of justice and those who recognise the essentials of truth and rights. Service to Humanity – you should know what that means as you declared yourself to be a practising Christian[Catholic].We are doing our duty. Do yours.Editorial CollectiveSELF-HELP NEWS – "Giving Voice to the Voiceless"From: msjoe21st@aol.com [mailto:msjoe21st@aol.com]
Sent: 30 December 2016 19:34
To: selfhelpnews@ubol.com
Subject: Re: Self-helpnewsI// Info on your article
<image002.jpg>You may check the Diaspora Policies.
Hello Self-Help News Editors:
Someone sent me an article titled: The African Union" Self-fish, Captive, Ineffectual.
I was quoted on frameworks, which are contextual in view of developments based on universal practices and verifiable. So I am not sure why I was quoted or even included your article, which is a litany of hostile rhetoric and the usual insults.Just some notes to correct misconceptions.
1) All Diaspora policies of AU Member States include both immigrants and descendant of immigrants born outside their countries; NOT JUST IMMIGRANTS. The policies state, in various ways, people with origin from the countries, which is legally verifiable by birth or marriage records. Even when someone obtains citizenship where they live, the person is still considered a national of the Member State.
In case of dual citizenship, descendants of immigrants are citizens of the Member States. The constitution would be clear. Severally applied, Contemporary African Diaspora begins from the population that emerged as a result migration. The formations and patterns are distinctive. The five regions are the building block of Africa's integration. For example, ECOWAS had at least two ECOWAS Diaspora events.
Any Diaspora resident holding a Passport from an AU Member State may obtain the African Passport, through his or her Member State, when it becomes available by 2018. They do not need to travel to Africa to get one. Another note, there are Whites, Asians, etc. , who are citizens of Member States. Accordingly, Contemporary African Diaspora is inevitably non-racial. In comparison, majority of the populations of Trinidad and Tobago and Guyana are respectively non-blacks and their Diasporas are racially inclusive. The governments cannot create different policies based on color and DNA without inviting lawsuits.
2) Governments all over the world have the legal responsibility and constitutional obligation, where it applies, to integrate their nationals in developments. They cannot say because the nationals are living outside their countries, they must become an indistinguishable part of black people all over the world. Does that sound remotely sane? Well, in the court of law, that will not hold. Caribbean and Latin governments do the same thing. For example, Haiti has a minister in charge of Diaspora Affairs. It is unclear how the AU can be self-fish, captive and ineffectual when it is the sovereign imperative of Member States to address issues regarding their nationals.
3) Agenda 2063 is implemented in Five Ten-Year Phases. Each 10 years has a mid-term review, meaning after each five years.
Hope the factual information helps in your analyses.
Best,
MsJoeTo Lead You Must be a Servant
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