--Moses:
Despite your puritanical churlishness in your defensive riposte psychoanalytically Gloria's response is in order because the African big manhood which you 'inadvertently' alluded to has sexual subliminal undertones in the African male specifically and global male psychology in general.
I have bracketed inadvertently in particular because you yourself may not be in total control of all the unconscious forces guiding your use of words and examples despite your 'conscious' assertiveness. So Gloria owes you no apologies in this connectiin even though you seem to have cornered her into offering one.
I have watched with disbelief how you seem to have stereotyped African intellectual exceptionalism of coveting the mansion and the jeep when you and I know that American professors in the main share this trait too. Many of them take full and adjunct roles at the same time to pay the note on their mansions (which they proudly display to colleagues at the slightest pretext (nothing bad in that of itself) that they hardly sleep seven complete nights in the mansion in their attempts to get adfitional employments to get the credit notes paid.
Now there is nothing wrong in working hard to afford what we want on all sides of the Atlantic. Yes, many of the men on all sides of the Atlantic see their mansions as as extension of their manhood as Gloria CORRECTLY inferred. What she was rightly stating is that it must be indeed a diminished and disfunctional manhood without pithiness if academics use tbeir profession to get a symbolic rise that is not justified by HARD work. Im in total agreement with her!
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-------- Original message --------From: Moses Ebe Ochonu <meochonu@gmail.com>Date: 22/08/2017 16:13 (GMT+00:00)To: USAAfricaDialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - ASUU: Moderator's Caution
Abeg o, Gloria, there was no anatomical reference in the quoted excerpt. I was merely referring the African concept of the big man (or big woman). And of course you conveniently left out the "neglect its obligations" part in your riposte. I was responding to Falola, who said Nigerian lecturers are pursuing the Nigerian dream of ostentatious success defined by mansions and jeeps. My argument, which Malami elaborated upon, is that it is wrong for academics to define their success in those terms, especially academics who do not take the obligations of their professions seriously. Falola was basically that Nigerian lecturers participate in a political economy of twisted values and vulgar definitions of success that permeate all of society, and that their lax approach to their work and their poor commitment to the non-meteral values and rewards of the profession should be understood in the context of this societal understanding of success. A somewhat valid explanation, but one that also rationalizes the rot and absolves incompetent, uncommitted lecturers of blame for their infractions and misbehavior.--
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 7:31 AM, Emeagwali, Gloria (History) <emeagwali@ccsu.edu> wrote:
"To get into academia, neglect its obligations, and merely use it as a platform to fulfill
your dreams of African big manhood is wicked." MEO
I suppose camels, donkeys and one- room shacks are for ASUU.
I really can't talk about their manhood but presumably it should be
less endowed.
Professor Gloria Emeagwali
www.africahistory.net
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Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - ASUU: Moderator's CautionWe must be cateful not to create the the impression American academics hate living in mansions and riding in jeeps contrary to their Nigerian counterparts.
I know they do and many take on additional adjunct duties in addition to their main posts to fulfill these yearnings so much so they have little time to sleep in the houses they are paying so highly for.
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-------- Original message --------From: Moses Ebe Ochonu <meochonu@gmail.com>Date: 20/08/2017 23:34 (GMT+00:00)To: USAAfricaDialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - ASUU: Moderator's Caution
--Malami,--
Although the moderator's questions were directed to you, I was tempted to jump in and tackle them. You have however done an outstanding job in your riposte. I keep saying it: academia is not for everyone. It is for those who derive joy and satisfaction from the life of the mind and from the immaterial satisfaction of pedagogy. If you want to live like an African big man with the obligatory mansions and jeeps, find another field. To get into academia, neglect its obligations, and merely use it as a platform to fulfill your dreams of African big manhood is wicked. The victims of this way of thing are the thousands of Nigerian students who are being shortchanged. And then to turn around and invoke the alibi of a wider society with inescapably twisted values and aspirations is even more wicked. Why should the academy mirror the aspirational standards of society rather than work against them?
So no, it is not that the academic is helpless against the value distortions in Nigerian society. I refuse to accept this kind of societal rationalization. If you're not motivated by the love of learning as its own reward, you have no business in academia. And those who recruit people who lack this fundamental commitment are equally complicit in these academics' malfeasance. Which is why for me the VCs bear much of the blame; for they are the ones, for the most part, who hire incompetent, uncommitted, and big men wanna bes into the profession.
It is wrong to pander to lecturers who make the choice to define their priorities and aspirations in purely material terms, in terms of mansion and jeeps. Academics are supposed to critique and demonstrate more progressive possibilities for the larger society, not ape its deplorable aspirational values.
There is no greater consumerist and conspicuously capitalist society like the US. If the causal logic of larger societal definition of success had any validity, one would expect US academics to be ostentatious and to be motivated by the aspirational materiality of American definitions of success. However, that does not seem to be the case, despite the fact that many academics do quite well financially and are comfortably in the American middle class.
So committed to austere and modest living and so desperate to go against the material markers of American capitalist success that academics intentionally and somewhat theatrically eschew conspicuous consumption and refuse to acquire the material goods that signify success in the American social imagination. American philosopher, Stanley Fish, once wrote a brilliant essay on Volvo cars and academics. The essay is a critique of academics' pretentious modesty and showy rejection of conspicuous consumption, which they display by driving Volvo cars. Stanley's critique is valid of course, but is also indicates the ways in which American academics, unlike Nigerian ones, strive to distinguish and define themselves away from the prevailing capitalist aspirations and their material markers.
Finally, to me it is a bid contradictory (responding to Falola) that in one breadth we are told not to generalize because there are some good, hard working members of the Nigerian professoriate and in another breadth we're told that the distorted larger societal system renders academics incapable of exhibiting the basic qualities of the profession. Doesn't the fact that there are academics in the system teaching and publishing in good venues and not engaging in abuse and crass materialism demonstrate that it is possible to transcend this larger system that purportedly overdetermines everything? Doesn't it indicate that societal, structural impediments are not a deterministic prison from which there is no escape?
Forgive my rambling; I'm trying to cram several thoughts and responses into this single post.
On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 1:27 PM, 'Malami buba' via USA Africa Dialogue Series <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> wrote:
TF,It's a different kind of aspiration with academic life, I think. If you keep at it, and go through its rigour, the best essay and a good lecture are part of its spending money. And N500k in Sokoto, for example, is not a bad wage for the level of exertion demanded of us!
The trick, I think, is to have a significant number of good people, who nurture and channel aspirations into a different but equally fulfilling pathway. At 17, Prof Shehu Galadanci was my VC and role model. As a student, then, I used to stand very close to his parking space to catch a glimpse of the great man. He didn't know this then. He knows now. Collette Clarke introduced me to Hamidou Kane and Albert Memmi, Late Dr Shehu Lawal forced us to buy Fanon and Rodney after our first History lecture, at which he asked all of us to 'keep our religion outside', and so on.
Fast forward today, Aspirations and inspirations of my junior colleagues are outside, in spite of our continuing presence (and relative success) inside. In that sense, we've all failed by our inability to pursuade colleagues and former students that there's more to life than 'a meal ticket'.
On the other hand, most of the VCs I know now cannot match Galadanci's humility, presence and straight back at 80+! And I'm sure you know many of your friends and former mentees who possessed all the bounties in 4 … and counting …
I may be wrong.
MalamiMalami:I need your help1. Can you stop a lecturer not to aspire to own a jeep and a big house?
2. How did this aspiration emerge? Can we say the Unions created them?3. Once one buys into those aspirations, where does the money come from?4. Is the successful lecturer the one who writes the best essays and teaches with dedication or the one who sources for the jeep and the big house?TF
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On Aug 20, 2017, at 8:50 AM, 'Malami buba' via USA Africa Dialogue Series <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> wrote:
----Dear Moses et al,It helps to spread the net a bit wider, and you'll find at the centre of this continuum/cycle of degeneracy a failed society/system. Its capacity for self-harm is only matched by its ill-will towards decent men and women.
You'll be surprised at the number of VCs, who became, for example, ministers and MDA CEOs - after a lifetime of student activism and ASUU conradeship in the precious decades. As students, they led local and national unions with the (financial) backing of state and national governments. As academics, they turn their attention to the 'big picture', in order to deflect our attention from massive local frauds and other illegalities. Rare is a union leader who raises specific local problems of staff and students with the VC (the one and only management that counts)!
You can now begin to see the connection between the various crumbling structures of a failing society at all levels. Local cases of sexual harassment, cash-for-answers, contract inflation and forgeries are too close to the authorities, i.e student leaders, union leaders, the VC and ultimately the power brokers in the locality where the university is situated. Add the damage of zero perks to agitating staff and the picture of a union of malfunction becomes perfectly formed!
In my experience, the election of a 'rougue' union leader, whose focus is the local issue of academic malaise and adminstrative incompetence is as rare as the metaphoric Hausa hab'o 'nosebleed'. Reforming this incestuous (your word, Moses) and incapacitating system requires the election and appointment of local 'nosebleeders'; but with Union leaders, who are also heads of departments and chief imams, there's a long, long way to go!
(I know, because I am here, and have been (on/off) for more than three decades!)
MalamiOga moderator, are you saying that the ills of the Nigerian academy that we have been outlining are products of larger societal forces? If so, is that not a cop out and a recipe for inertia and helplessness? Do we wait until these larger forces are extirpated before we expect or demand better from ASUU and its members? That would be music to ASUU's ears. It would also amount to exculpatory pandering to our colleagues in Nigeria. Perhaps before your important questions come into play, we need to first persuade our colleagues to take responsibility, hold themselves accountable, acknowledge the enormity of the rot beyond the familiar rhetoric of funding, and quit being defensive.--
Not sure I get the logic of the reference to Senators and the police. Are we wrong to expect that academics who write tomes criticizing the excesses of the two groups should do much better in their professional lives and in their obligations than those they criticize?
And what is odd is that many of our Nigeria-based colleagues seem to have two separate scripts on these problems, one private and one public. It is understandable, but it still rankles. In private, the defensiveness gives way to brutal honesty. You know this as well as I do. I guess their attitude is analogous to your "don't empower our enemies" and "don't ruin the chances of the honest ones who want to apply to things on this side of the water."
On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 3:45 PM, Toyin Falola <toyinfalola@austin.utexas.edu> wrote:
Small questions for you to move the argument forward:
1. What forces and processes create values and habits that we find disturbing?
For instance, what forces produced the Senators we dislike, and the police that take bribes from us? How do we unleash counter forces and processes to eliminate those things? Why are you not asking me and you to do the reform?
2. Can an institution, as in the police, reform itself or does it require greater forces outside of it to reform it?
3. Can the abnormal not become the new normal if 2 does not occur?
TF
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Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - ASUU: Moderator's Caution
Prof Aderibigbe, you said "Why don't we all go back home take over from the "never do good" Nigerian ASSU members and live happily thereafter and forever. Just a thought!" If I have a dollar for every time someone gave that response with regards to debates about ASUU's strike actions, I'll probably be a (US) dollar millionaire by now.
With due respect, what you wrote above is a cheap shot. What people like Moses and I are advocating for is actually what we advocate for in Europe and America, which is that it is the duty of academia to be the guiding lighting for societies. It is our job to speak truth to power. What we call for is that ASUU needs to take a closer look at itself and examines its imperfections. University teachers should of course, be well-paid but earnings should be deserved.
ASUU will get its members the pay-rise it is asking for, but what then? Will ASUU fight the culture of nepotism within its rank? Will it tackle sexual harassment of students (https://www.jstor.org/stable/
24487380?seq=1#page_scan_tab_c ontents)? Will it address the frequent intimidation of junior colleagues and students(http://www.vanguardng r.com/2016/11/students-lament- compulsory-handouts-tertiary-i nstitutions/) ? And what about corruption within the university system (http://www.gamji.com/article6 000/news7987.htm)?
Shola
On 19 August 2017 at 21:33, Ibigbolade Aderibigbe <gbolaade.aderibigbe@gmail.com
> wrote: On a comic NOTE Why don't we all go back home take over from the "never do good" Nigerian ASSU members and live happily thereafter and forever. Just a thought!!!!
On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 2:09 PM, Moses Ochonu <meochonu@gmail.com> wrote:
Nothing right wing about calling out the disruptive antics of a tactically outmoded union, or highlighting the failings and hypocrisies of its members. Nothing exhibitionist about calling for introspection on the part of conceited colleagues or advocating on behalf of students and parents. Protecting the careers of that honest academic who wants to study in Canada is not as important as protecting the interests of abused, neglected, and poorly instructed students. Those who glibly patronize and justify mediocrity need to take a look in the mirror and recognize their complicity in a rot from which they are safely protected.
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On Aug 19, 2017, at 12:28 PM, Emeagwali, Gloria (History) <emeagwali@ccsu.edu> wrote:
"We must always criticize, even express anger, but we must strike the balance, protecting those who do honest work in a difficult environment. And we must be aware that what we say can undercut the application of an innocent woman or man to a school in Canada."
Agreed. Well said. It also throws a shadow on a generation of Nigerian academics - and not only students.
Don't feed the beast through exaggerated, self-righteous, rightwing, intellectual exhib
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Professor Gloria Emeagwali
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Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - ASUU: Moderator's Caution
Any movement which adopts as its beginning compromise is doomed.
" The whole history of the progress of human liberty shows that all concessions yet made to her august claims have been born of earnest struggle. The conflict has been exciting, agitating, all-absorbing, and for the time being, putting all other tumults to silence. It must do this or it does nothing. If there is no struggle there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom and yet deprecate agitation are men who want crops without plowing up the ground; they want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters.
This struggle may be a moral one, or it may be a physical one, and it may be both moral and physical, but it must be a struggle. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress. "Frederick Douglass
Education just like other institutions in Nigeria such as marriage, family, health care, security, governance, and justice are dead.. What happened is that everybody is feeding on the dead bodies of these educational institutions. Certain people with material and class interests are pleading for peace. Where are the people advocating for peace for students, parents, and our country that has been abused and trampled upon by people without human compassion. Education was the first institutional infrastructure that was destroyed before other infrastructures collapsed on top of it. Education is the foundation which all other things are built upon when it is destroyed symbols of its destruction are everywhere for people to see. Evidence of the destruct ions are everywhere violence among youths, plights of migrants, kidnapping, corruption of political classes, judges, lawyers, secession demands, religious fanaticism, ignorance, and anti-intellectualism of youths without socialization which educational institutions provide.
At this critical juncture when the leadership of ASUU is needed to train and socialize these youths to use their critical capacities to deal with problems confronting us as a nation. Putting millions of youth out of universities at this time is a recipe for disaster at the highest scale.
On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Ibrahim Abdullah <ibdullah@gmail.com> wrote:
Difficult to caution discordant voices when things are beyond the pale. Let those who want to grieve do so. This is not a Nigerian problem; it is as global as education is the means to get things right.
And that globality is amplified even as the discordant and other voices compete for space in an unending conversation about where we wanna be!
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On Aug 17, 2017, at 5:33 PM, Jibrin Ibrahim <jibrinibrahim891@gmail.com> wrote:Thanks Toyin for your words of caution on our choice of words:
"We must always criticize, even express anger, but we must strike the balance, protecting those who do honest work in a difficult environment. And we must be aware that what we say can undercut the application of an innocent woman or man to a school in Canada."
Professor Jibrin Ibrahim
Senior Fellow
Centre for Democracy and Development, Abuja
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On 17 August 2017 at 17:09, Toyin Falola <toyinfalola@austin.utexas.edu
> wrote: Great friends:
Regarding ASUU, and the Nigerian university system, we must be very careful of the words we choose in presenting our disagreements. Words must always elevate, and criticisms must always be measured. Calling our colleagues corrupt, fake professors, rogues, sexual predators, harassers etc. etc., I think, represent word choices that we must not use, certainly not as an umbrella for all people. Our freedom stops where that of another person begins!
Our young men and women are mobile: they apply to graduate schools from London to Malaysia, Edmonton to Austin. We want them to grow, and this must be our mission. We want them to receive good education, and we must always protect their future. We cannot tarnish hard workers, honest school teachers who do their work diligently, and think that change will come. Let us identify the misfits and crucify them, but let us not lump the diligent with the corrupt.
From Cheikh Anta Diop University in Dakar to the University of Malawi, I have seen my colleagues carrying 200 scripts to grade—and better believe this, I even requested to join them in grading where the system allows me to. I use Skype to teach for free. The work is hard and difficult for some of our colleagues, and we must not use words that will torment them. Our words must recognize their contributions to the continent. We are all in the space of underdevelopment, irrespective of our location.
Let me tell you personal stories. There is a lady that is based in Michigan State at the moment who narrated how one book that Ken Harrow gave her was decisive in launching her PhD program. I listened to the story and became emotional. I once met yet another at the Nkrumah museum in Accra, and with three books that I sent to her, she was spurred and she wrote a statement for a PhD admission. She is writing the final chapter of her PhD in a top British university.
Nothing is wrong with our brains—it is our resources and how we allocate them that something is wrong with. Let us do small things. Our values may be compromised, against the background of globalization, failed modernity, and incoherent capitalism, but values are never stable—Saul became Paul!
We must always criticize, even express anger, but we must strike the balance, protecting those who do honest work in a difficult environment. And we must be aware that what we say can undercut the application of an innocent woman or man to a school in Canada.
TF
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