It's amazing that Chidi could make such a sweeping and irresponsible statement about a responsible association such as ANA, without any piece of evidence. We all must learn to support and give constructive criticism rather than destructive one. Shalom. Osakue Omoera.
On Oct 27, 2017 11:50 PM, <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com > wrote:
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Chidi Anthony Opara <chidi.opara@gmail.com>: Oct 27 08:19PM +0100
Association of Nigerian Authors(ANA) is presently valueless, partly because
of the watery authorship credentials of most of its contemporary leaders.
CAO.
Toyin Falola <toyinfalola@austin.utexas.edu >: Oct 27 08:12PM
Chidi:
You recently complained about the tone of conversation. But review your sentence below: a broad tarnishing of everyone in an association without supplying evidence.
Do please respect our colleagues. I was their Keynote Speaker when Prof. Remi Raji was President, and they all take the ANA very seriously. They have raised money to build on their space at Abuja.
TF
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Association of Nigerian Authors(ANA) is presently valueless, partly because of the watery authorship credentials of most of its contemporary leaders.
CAO.
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Toyin Falola <toyinfalola@austin.utexas.edu >: Oct 27 02:58PM
Kwame:
A small question for you: at what point do we begin to take responsibilities for our failures, recognizing the hegemonic issues that overwhelm us? In other words, as Pan-Africanists, who is stopping us other than ourselves, if the knowledge that is against us, as you map out so clearly, is understood?
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Date: Friday, October 27, 2017 at 7:24 AM
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Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Cornell¹s Black Student Disunion
No. Earlier in the thread is said that Ivys should do both--aggressively address the problem of brutal disparities in America created by slavery and Jim Crow whilst continuing the robust recruitment of African students. Alongside those imperatives, Black radicals must continue to challege the fundamental problem of racism/white supremacy on college campuses and the racist white control of knowledge production.
kzs
On Oct 27, 2017 7:10 AM, "Kwabena Akurang-Parry" <kaparry@hotmail.com<mailto:kaparry@hotmail.com >> wrote:
If you don't know how do you then summon some "disingenuous....." to rescue your conclusion! Now you have centralized what you have been skirting around all along: Africans did not experience slavery and Jim Crow so they should not benefit from Affirmative Action! The pan-African inclusion is lost oh!
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Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Cornell¹s Black Student Disunion
Whether Ivy League schools intentionally favor African students I do not know. However, the question is whether it is disingenuous for Ivy League administrators to use African students to bolster their claim of Affirmative Action success stories. If Affirmative Action is about correcting brutal disparities created by slavery and Jim Crow then the answer is no. The Ivy Leagues are being dishonest.
kzs
On Oct 27, 2017 6:15 AM, "Kwabena Akurang-Parry" <kaparry@hotmail.com<mailto:kaparry@hotmail.com >> wrote:
Once again I find your conclusions problematic. So are you saying that Ivy League schools forage for African students, but choose to overlook qualified African American students, to meet their affirmative action needs.
I failed to state early on that one key reason African Americans at Ivy League schools are questioning the dearth of African Americans on their campuses as compared to the relatively high number of continental Africans is that Ivy League schools tout their higher than average enrollment of Black students as an Affirmative Action success story.
My Great Pan-African Soul Brother, let us just agree to disagree on these matters. So long!
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To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com >
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Cornell¹s Black Student Disunion
Kwabena,
I failed to state early on that one key reason African Americans at Ivy League schools are questioning the dearth of African Americans on their campuses as compared to the relatively high number of continental Africans is that Ivy League schools tout their higher than average enrollment of Black students as an Affirmative Action success story.
The students are raising a legitimate question. Namely, if the majority of Black students on campus are not African American, then what sort of Affirmative Action are you pursuing? The answer is that the original intent of Affirmative Action was to redress the vast and brutal inequalities created by slavery, Jim Crow, red lining, lynchings, police brutality, housing convenants, vagrancy laws, theft of black land, and so on. That original intent was replaced by a "diversity" model in the aftermath of a Supreme Court case Bakke vs. the UC Regents (because the white people who do the oppressing still make and adjudicate the rules)
You asked why African Americans dont they complain about Asian dominance. I responded that they do. I went on to explain that Asians dominate at elite institutions on the West Coast. And that both white Americans and Black Americans complain about that dominance, albeit from different vantage points (in the case of whites, lost privilege, and in the case of Blacks, chronic disadvantage). Asians dont dominate at Ivy League schools.
Lastly, you seem to be ignoring the fact that African Americans have been challenging white people at white-controlled institutions for centuries. We continue to do so. Our African cousins, on the other hand, don't come typically come here to challenge racist white-controlled institutions. Rather, they come here for opportunity denied in their homelands rendered chronically dependent by imperialism.
kzs
On Oct 27, 2017 4:43 AM, "Kwabena Akurang-Parry" <kaparry@hotmail.com<mailto:kaparry@hotmail.com >> wrote:
Kwame, you should say Asians do not WHOLLY dominate elite schools! Blacks complaining refers to African Americans! These are quibbles to my arguments, but do not change the trajectory of my conclusions
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Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Cornell¹s Black Student Disunion
Asians aren't dominant at Ivy league schools. In fact there is lawsuit alleging that the selection process is biased against highly qualified Asian applicants:
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On the West Coast where Asians do dominate numerically at elite schools, both whites and Blacks complain.
kzs
On Oct 25, 2017 7:40 PM, "Kwabena Akurang-Parry" <kaparry@hotmail.com<mailto:kaparry@hotmail.com >> wrote:
Ken:
Kwame's last paragraph is not in dispute here! But let me ask why African Americans would complain about the increasing number of Africans in elite schools and overlook Asian domination of elite schools! May be Kwame can theorize from some conservative pan-African perspectives, while Ken wave the flag of neo-liberal empiricisms!
Kwabena
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Sent: October 25, 2017 11:48 PM
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Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Cornell¹s Black Student Disunion
You can substitute "Detroit" for "chicago" in everything Kwame wrote, and it would be true. Too true. And I full-heartedly endorse his important last paragraph.
ken
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Date: Wednesday, 25 October 2017 at 18:48
To: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com >>
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Cornell¹s Black Student Disunion
Kwabena,
I am in agreement with Ken (see thread) on the gross disparities extant in US K-12 education. Another pressing issue is violence. The pipeline for my institution is Chicago. In the 2.5 years I have worked here, I have had four students from the South Side of Chicago who have close friends who were victims of gunfire. One student has lost six male friends in her community to gunfire. Most Black Chicagoans are the descendants of African Americans who, in the 1920s, starting fleeing the south in massive numbers. They were escaping lynchings<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook. > and other horrific acts of white racial terror. Their reception by whites in Chicago was also extremely violent<https://nam02.com/?url=https%3A%2F% 2Furldefense.proofpoint.com% 2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__ lynchinginamerica.eji.org_% 26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DnE__W8dFE- shTxStwXtp0A%26r%3DZy8I_ UX8z9DLbmf5YJ0EIg%26m% 3DLlLOdtke1b3GmVrTy9A9GS0rzYIO knR5ZCl_BGOcRIs%26s% 3Dkn1v5rV8O_b- pyzJqbENMPFLXfh7tpZlGjb0fPx512 U%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cfj_ kolapo%40hotmail.com% 7C93a3972546b04463b44e08d51c04 7522% 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa aaaa%7C1%7C0% 7C636445727831599690& sdata=8MKJvbLMB%2FR0pAhyN% 2B0ShbBGeJKjblMQyL3wvxLIbQA% 3D&reserved=0 safelinks.protection.outlook. >.com/?url=https%3A%2F% 2Furldefense.proofpoint.com% 2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__ drive.google.com_file_d_0B- 2Dr64R-2DJGUFdVkh1bV9SeTVrOHc_ view-3Fusp-3Dsharing%26d% 3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DnE__W8dFE- shTxStwXtp0A%26r%3DZy8I_ UX8z9DLbmf5YJ0EIg%26m% 3DLlLOdtke1b3GmVrTy9A9GS0rzYIO knR5ZCl_BGOcRIs%26s% 3DIsBrzkhMFe8GpcFuemc_ F4KeC02he975JYbo8PifSXM%26e% 3D&data=02%7C01%7Cfj_kolapo% 40hotmail.com%7 C93a3972546b04463b44e08d51c047 522% 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa aaaa%7C1%7C0% 7C636445727831599690&sdata= O3O6nYhD7YwvN285uXCgKA2PMWT2op ViNPwNy5w5Ysg%3D&reserved=0
The Chicago police of the 1940s and 50s were basically execution squads who killed, arrested, or otherwise undermined any Black leader who tried to protect the interests of Black people. In 1969 the Chicago police conspired with federal agents to assassinate Black Panther leader Fred Hampton<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook. >. All that to say that these are brute inequities that have been centuries in the making. The original intent of Affirmative Action was to correct these injustices rooted centuries Jim Crow and slavery in America.com/?url=https%3A%2F% 2Furldefense.proofpoint.com% 2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__ www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv- 3D2VDeeIomV1U%26d%3DDwMFaQ% 26c%3DnE__W8dFE-shTxStwXtp0A% 26r%3DZy8I_UX8z9DLbmf5YJ0EIg% 26m% 3DLlLOdtke1b3GmVrTy9A9GS0rzYIO knR5ZCl_BGOcRIs%26s% 3DdEXjr4Lh2XU1oasnf8HE2zv4mq- T5zjl2z5IFwzJvRA%26e%3D&data= 02%7C01%7Cfj_kolapo%40hotmail. com% 7C93a3972546b04463b44e08d51c04 7522% 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa aaaa%7C1%7C0 %7C636445727831755967&sdata= xnEC2WHPRli1eeJhyJKlure849v2hn qrN4C1z4P7N5E%3D&reserved=0
I think it is fair to say that the Black students at Cornel need guidance on how to frame the problem in a way that does not exacerbate divisions between Africans and African Americans. But the problem they are raising is legitimate. Cornel, and every other tertiary institution in the USA, should have Affirmative Action programs aimed at aggressively recruiting, retaining, graduating African Americans. They can/should do that alongside the robust recruitment of continental and second generation African students.
kzs
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On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Kwabena Akurang-Parry <kaparry@hotmail.com<mailto:kaparry@hotmail.com >> wrote:
Kwame better is a relative concept with alternative angles of meanings. I premised my conclusions on your previous position that has some empiricisms to it that are measurable. Thus comparative performances predicated on "better" should not be "rejected," but rather nuanced or problematized. I am not getting your arguments and your conclusions! Are you saying that white racism encourages the academic performances of African Africans in the USA, while it discourages the academic performances of African Americans? You write "better" is measured on terms designated by the white status quo and does nothing to challenge the white racist status quo." Does this mean that if African Africans do "better" inKwabena Akurang-Parry <kaparry@hotmail.com>: Oct 27 03:14PM
You are now pioneering a new field of arguments with hasty conclusions! What are you using to measure Ghanaian universities? I recently returned home to teach and research and can provide first-hand insights and changes and continuities, but first run away from the generalizations to some specific units of analyses then I can speak to such. If Nigerians intellectuals talk about Nigerians universities, it is that they seek improvements, not that they are saying that every backyard college and third-tier university in America is better than all Nigerian Universities.
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From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com > on behalf of kwame zulu shabazz <kwameshabazz@gmail.com>
Sent: October 27, 2017 12:43 PM
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Cornell¹s Black Student Disunion
I only cite Chinweizu to credit the phrase "matador"--selfish African elites who are complicit in the dysfunction of African governments.
I can only go by what Nigerians say about Nigerian universities. They all seem to agree that Nigerian education is failing Nigerian students. And what of the mass WEAC debacle? I know Ghana much better. Ghana's flagship universities are regionally ok (but the bar is low)-- Legon, KNUST, UCC--are not world class by any stretch of the imagination. The infracture is generally awful, the classrooms are woefully overcrowded, they lack basic resources such as textbooks, etc.
kzs
On Oct 27, 2017 7:11 AM, "Kwabena Akurang-Parry" <kaparry@hotmail.com<mailto:kaparry@hotmail.com >> wrote:
Please, read carefully: "Prepared better at home" is not a synonym for LIVING in Africa! I use home to mean the influence of the immediate/extended family and the space was even America, not Africa. Remember Chinweizu has his critics, both African and non-Africans. You may also talk about the large number of African scholars who have put American universities in the limelight! Oh yes, there are great African universities in Nigerian and Ghana that are comparable to any in the world. And here, let us return to pan-Africanizing!
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Sent: October 27, 2017 11:32 AM
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com >
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Cornell¹s Black Student Disunion
Kwabena,
If Ghanaians and Nigerians are, in your words, "prepared better at home," then why can't they overwhelm the Black "matador" (Chinweizu) minority and create hundreds top-notch universities in their homelands?
kzs
On Oct 27, 2017 6:15 AM, "Kwabena Akurang-Parry" <kaparry@hotmail.com<mailto:kaparry@hotmail.com >> wrote:
Gloria:
I should have qualified that the Canadian school did not pay my airfare on a silver-platter. It was a competitive grant for needy students that brought non-Canadians, including African Americans, white Americans, and Caribbean, Europeans, Asians,etc., to the school. Your point is that White racism targets African-Americans and that is why African students do "better" at all levels of the educational system! I am not even historicizing this at all. My point is that the difference may be traced to the ways that children are prepared at home to understand the importance of education as a means of vertical mobility. Give and take, Africans and African Americans, both from elite and non-elite homes, attend the same schools, yet Africans do "better." Are we saying that white teachers favor African students in diverse ways? At where you teach, have you seen white professors favoring African students? Sure racism is not only at the school level. And if racism is like an encompassing climate, where and at what point are African students shielded from it! Are LSAT. MCAT, TOEFL, etc. set in ways that advantage African students! The plague of racism affects Africans as much as it impacts African American students, unless we wish to make a reductionist argument that African Americans, unlike Africans, have internalized racism and therefore it has become detrimental to their education. As for structural and systemic racism and the effects of the depredations of white hegemony, be it the Atlantic slave trade, Jim Crow, colonialism, and even unidirectional Globalization, I am sure everyone who comes here understand the impact of such. And I won't belabor such because they are not my frame of reference. And frankly, I am very comfortable with my perspectives and don't wish to take a second look at anyone's opinion as if generous dissent is a disease.
Kwabena
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From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com > <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com >> on behalf of Emeagwali, Gloria (History) <emeagwali@ccsu.edu<mailto:emeagwali@ccsu.edu >>
Sent: October 27, 2017 1:28 AM
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com >
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Cornell¹s Black Student Disunion
Kwabena,
You seem to be waving the flag of the old school conservatives who
avoid looking at structural issues, and the diverse processes of disempowerment at play.
They blame families, culture, rap music, the way people walked,
the way people talked, the food they ate, their genetic profile - and everything under the sun except historical and
current structures of disempowerment. Of course they like to use the word victimhood, too, and take on an air of superiority in the process.
The same Canadian university that paid your ticket from Ghana would probably not spend a penny on a bus fare for the Black Canadians
and Native Americans within their borders. Have you wondered why? I am not saying that you should not have gotten your ticket paid.
I am simply pointing to the complexities and contradictory nature of hegemonic politics.
Kindly have another look at the views of Ken, Kwame, Biko and Moses on this issue..
GE
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From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com > <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com >> on behalf of Kwabena Akurang-Parry <kaparry@hotmail.com<mailto:kaparry@hotmail.com >>
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 8:09 PM
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com >
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Cornell¹s Black Student Disunion
Ken:
Kwame's last paragraph is not in dispute here! But let me ask why African Americans would complain about the increasing number of Africans in elite schools and overlook Asian domination of elite schools! May be Kwame can theorize from some conservative pan-African perspectives, while Ken wave the flag of neo-liberal empiricisms!
Kwabena
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From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com > <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com >> on behalf of Kenneth Harrow <harrow@msu.edu<mailto:harrow@msu.edu >>
Sent: October 25, 2017 11:48 PM
To: usaafricadialogue
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Cornell¹s Black Student Disunion
You can substitute "Detroit" for "chicago" in everything Kwame wrote, and it would be true. Too true. And I full-heartedly endorse his important last paragraph.
ken
Kenneth Harrow
Dept of English and Film Studies
Michigan State University
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From: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com >> on behalf of kwame zulu shabazz <kwameshabazz@gmail.com<mailto:kwameshabazz@gmail.com> >
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Date: Wednesday, 25 October 2017 at 18:48
To: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com >>
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Cornell¹s Black Student Disunion
Kwabena,
I am in agreement with Ken (see thread) on the gross disparities extant in US K-12 education. Another pressing issue is violence. The pipeline for my institution is Chicago. In the 2.5 years I have worked here, I have had four students from the South Side of Chicago who have close friends who were victims of gunfire. One student has lost six male friends in her community to gunfire. Most Black Chicagoans are the descendants of African Americans who, in the 1920s, starting fleeing the south in massive numbers. They were escaping lynchings<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook. > and other horrific acts of white racial terror. Their reception by whites in Chicago was also extremely violent<https://nam02.com/?url=https%3A%2F% 2Furldefense.proofpoint.com% 2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__ lynchinginamerica.eji.org_% 26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DnE__W8dFE- shTxStwXtp0A%26r%3DZy8I_ UX8z9DLbmf5YJ0EIg%26m% 3DLlLOdtke1b3GmVrTy9A9GS0rzYIO knR5ZCl_BGOcRIs%26s% 3Dkn1v5rV8O_b- pyzJqbENMPFLXfh7tpZlGjb0fPx512 U%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cfj_ kolapo%40hotmail.com% 7C93a3972546b04463b44e08d51c04 7522% 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa aaaa%7C1%7C0% 7C636445727831599690& sdata=8MKJvbLMB%2FR0pAhyN% 2B0ShbBGeJKjblMQyL3wvxLIbQA% 3D&reserved=0 safelinks.protection.outlook. >.com/?url=https%3A%2F% 2Furldefense.proofpoint.com% 2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__ drive.google.com_file_d_0B- 2Dr64R-2DJGUFdVkh1bV9SeTVrOHc_ view-3Fusp-3Dsharing%26d% 3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DnE__W8dFE- shTxStwXtp0A%26r%3DZy8I_ UX8z9DLbmf5YJ0EIg%26m% 3DLlLOdtke1b3GmVrTy9A9GS0rzYIO knR5ZCl_BGOcRIs%26s% 3DIsBrzkhMFe8GpcFuemc_ F4KeC02he975JYbo8PifSXM%26e% 3D&data=02%7C01%7Cfj_kolapo% 40hotmail.com%7 C93a3972546b04463b44e08d51c047 522% 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa aaaa%7C1%7C0% 7C636445727831599690&sdata= O3O6nYhD7YwvN285uXCgKA2PMWT2op ViNPwNy5w5Ysg%3D&reserved=0
The Chicago police of the 1940s and 50s were basically execution squads who killed, arrested, or otherwise undermined any Black leader who tried to protect the interests of Black people. In 1969 the Chicago police conspired with federal agents to assassinate Black Panther leader Fred Hampton<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook. >. All that to say that these are brute inequities that have been centuries in the making. The original intent of Affirmative Action was to correct these injustices rooted centuries Jim Crow and slavery in America.com/?url=https%3A%2F% 2Furldefense.proofpoint.com% 2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__ www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv- 3D2VDeeIomV1U%26d%3DDwMFaQ% 26c%3DnE__W8dFE-shTxStwXtp0A% 26r%3DZy8I_UX8z9DLbmf5YJ0EIg% 26m% 3DLlLOdtke1b3GmVrTy9A9GS0rzYIO knR5ZCl_BGOcRIs%26s% 3DdEXjr4Lh2XU1oasnf8HE2zv4mq- T5zjl2z5IFwzJvRA%26e%3D&data= 02%7C01%7Cfj_kolapo%40hotmail. com% 7C93a3972546b04463b44e08d51c04 7522% 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa aaaa%7C1%7C0 %7C636445727831755967&sdata= xnEC2WHPRli1eeJhyJKlure849v2hn qrN4C1z4P7N5E%3D&reserved=0
I think it is fair to say that the Black students at Cornel need guidance on how to frame the problem in a way that does not exacerbate divisions between Africans and African Americans. But the problem they are raising is legitimate. Cornel, and every other tertiary institution in the USA, should have Affirmative Action programs aimed at aggressively recruiting, retaining, graduating African Americans. They can/should do that alongside the robust recruitment of continental and second generation African students.
kzs
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alternative. There are no impartial observers. Through the destruction, in certain countries, of man's literary heritage, through the propagation of false ideas of national and racial superiority, the artist, the scientist, the writer is challenged. This struggle invades the former cloistered halls of our universities and all her seats of learning. The battlefront is everywhere. There is no sheltered rear. The artist elects to fight for freedom or slavery. I have made my choice! I had no alternative! - Paul Robeson, speech about the Spanish Civil War at the Albert Hall, London,on 24th June 1937
On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Kwabena Akurang-Parry <kaparry@hotmail.com<mailto:kaparry@hotmail.com >> wrote:
Kwame better is a relative concept with alternative angles of meanings. I premised my conclusions on your previous position that has some empiricisms to it that are measurable. Thus comparative performances predicated on "better" should not be "rejected," but rather nuanced or problematized. I am not getting your arguments and your conclusions! Are you saying that white racism encourages the academic performances of African Africans in the USA, while it discourages the academic performances of African Americans? You write "better" is measured on terms designated by the white status quo and does nothing to challenge the white racist status quo." Does this mean that if African Africans do "better" in schools it promotes white racist status quo and does it mean that if a heterogeneous group does not do well, it then marginalizes or defangs white racism.? I didn't have to belabor the ways that African Americans have benefited from Africans and vice versa. I raised that to counter your statements like "Recent immigrants to America benefit from Black America's unfinished business of racial justice for centuries of white racial terror." I think instead of contesting the academic performances of African Africans in the frameworks immigration, race, and racism, we should rather seek to understand "how" African Africans do "well," if not "better" while others don't. Based on your arguments, I would suggest that white racism in the USA is encompassing, not selective in the sense that it privileges and favors African Africans and their children's educational pursuits. You are free to disagree with my generous position that newly-arrived African Africans find it more difficult to navigate the murky waters of racism than African Americans.
Kwabena
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From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com >Kenneth Harrow <harrow@msu.edu>: Oct 27 11:40AM -0400
Hi kwabena
I would be interested in hearingyour assessment of how the Ghanaian university system is working. You've had the experience of u.s. and now Ghana, and although I am sure each university, and each country, is different, we need your first hand experience to be able to assess the situation
ken
Kenneth Harrow
Dept of English and Film Studies
Michigan State University
619 Red Cedar Rd
East Lansing, MI 48824
517-803-8839
harrow@msu.edu
http://www.english.msu.edu/people/faculty/kenneth-harrow/
From: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com > on behalf of Kwabena Akurang-Parry <kaparry@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com >
Date: Friday, 27 October 2017 at 11:14
To: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com >
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Cornell¹s Black Student Disunion
You are now pioneering a new field of arguments with hasty conclusions! What are you using to measure Ghanaian universities? I recently returned home to teach and research and can provide first-hand insights and changes and continuities, but first run away from the generalizations to some specific units of analyses then I can speak to such. If Nigerians intellectuals talk about Nigerians universities, it is that they seek improvements, not that they are saying that every backyard college and third-tier university in America is better than all Nigerian Universities.
From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com > on behalf of kwame zulu shabazz <kwameshabazz@gmail.com>
Sent: October 27, 2017 12:43 PM
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Cornell¹s Black Student Disunion
I only cite Chinweizu to credit the phrase "matador"--selfish African elites who are complicit in the dysfunction of African governments.
I can only go by what Nigerians say about Nigerian universities. They all seem to agree that Nigerian education is failing Nigerian students. And what of the mass WEAC debacle? I know Ghana much better. Ghana's flagship universities are regionally ok (but the bar is low)-- Legon, KNUST, UCC--are not world class by any stretch of the imagination. The infracture is generally awful, the classrooms are woefully overcrowded, they lack basic resources such as textbooks, etc.
kzs
On Oct 27, 2017 7:11 AM, "Kwabena Akurang-Parry" <kaparry@hotmail.com> wrote:
Please, read carefully: "Prepared better at home" is not a synonym for LIVING in Africa! I use home to mean the influence of the immediate/extended family and the space was even America, not Africa. Remember Chinweizu has his critics, both African and non-Africans. You may also talk about the large number of African scholars who have put American universities in the limelight! Oh yes, there are great African universities in Nigerian and Ghana that are comparable to any in the world. And here, let us return to pan-Africanizing!
From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com > on behalf of kwame zulu shabazz <kwameshabazz@gmail.com>
Sent: October 27, 2017 11:32 AM
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Cornell¹s Black Student Disunion
Kwabena,
If Ghanaians and Nigerians are, in your words, "prepared better at home," then why can't they overwhelm the Black "matador" (Chinweizu) minority and create hundreds top-notch universities in their homelands?
kzs
On Oct 27, 2017 6:15 AM, "Kwabena Akurang-Parry" <kaparry@hotmail.com> wrote:
Gloria:
I should have qualified that the Canadian school did not pay my airfare on a silver-platter. It was a competitive grant for needy students that brought non-Canadians, including African Americans, white Americans, and Caribbean, Europeans, Asians,etc., to the school. Your point is that White racism targets African-Americans and that is why African students do "better" at all levels of the educational system! I am not even historicizing this at all. My point is that the difference may be traced to the ways that children are prepared at home to understand the importance of education as a means of vertical mobility. Give and take, Africans and African Americans, both from elite and non-elite homes, attend the same schools, yet Africans do "better." Are we saying that white teachers favor African students in diverse ways? At where you teach, have you seen white professors favoring African students? Sure racism is not only at the school level. And if racism is like an encompassing climate, where and at what point are African students shielded from it! Are LSAT. MCAT, TOEFL, etc. set in ways that advantage African students! The plague of racism affects Africans as much as it impacts African American students, unless we wish to make a reductionist argument that African Americans, unlike Africans, have internalized racism and therefore it has become detrimental to their education. As for structural and systemic racism and the effects of the depredations of white hegemony, be it the Atlantic slave trade, Jim Crow, colonialism, and even unidirectional Globalization, I am sure everyone who comes here understand the impact of such. And I won't belabor such because they are not my frame of reference. And frankly, I am very comfortable with my perspectives and don't wish to take a second look at anyone's opinion as if generous dissent is a disease.
Kwabena
From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com > on behalf of Emeagwali, Gloria (History) <emeagwali@ccsu.edu>
Sent: October 27, 2017 1:28 AM
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Cornell¹s Black Student Disunion
Kwabena,
You seem to be waving the flag of the old school conservatives who
avoid looking at structural issues, and the diverse processes of disempowerment at play.
They blame families, culture, rap music, the way people walked,
the way people talked, the food they ate, their genetic profile - and everything under the sun except historical and
current structures of disempowerment. Of course they like to use the word victimhood, too, and take on an air of superiority in the process.
The same Canadian university that paid your ticket from Ghana would probably not spend a penny on a bus fare for the Black Canadians
and Native Americans within their borders. Have you wondered why? I am not saying that you should not have gotten your ticket paid.
I am simply pointing to the complexities and contradictory nature of hegemonic politics.
Kindly have another look at the views of Ken, Kwame, Biko and Moses on this issue..
GE
From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com > on behalf of Kwabena Akurang-Parry <kaparry@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 8:09 PM
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Cornell¹s Black Student Disunion
Ken:
Kwame's last paragraph is not in dispute here! But let me ask why African Americans would complain about the increasing number of Africans in elite schools and overlook Asian domination of elite schools! May be Kwame can theorize from some conservative pan-African perspectives, while Ken wave the flag of neo-liberal empiricisms!
Kwabena
From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com > on behalf of Kenneth Harrow <harrow@msu.edu>
Sent: October 25, 2017 11:48 PM
To: usaafricadialogue
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Cornell¹s Black Student Disunion
You can substitute "Detroit" for "chicago" in everything Kwame wrote, and it would be true. Too true. And I full-heartedly endorse his important last paragraph.
ken
Kenneth Harrow
Dept of English and Film Studies
Michigan State University
619 Red Cedar Rd
East Lansing, MI 48824
517-803-8839
harrow@msu.edu
http://www.english.msu.edu/people/faculty/kenneth-harrow/
From: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com > on behalf of kwame zulu shabazz <kwameshabazz@gmail.com>
Reply-To: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com >
Date: Wednesday, 25 October 2017 at 18:48
To: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com >
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Cornell¹s Black Student Disunion
Kwabena,
I am in agreement with Ken (see thread) on the gross disparities extant in US K-12 education. Another pressing issue is violence. The pipeline for my institution is Chicago. In the 2.5 years I have worked here, I have had four students from the South Side of Chicago who have close friends who were victims of gunfire. One student has lost six male friends in her community to gunfire. Most Black Chicagoans are the descendants of African Americans who, in the 1920s, starting fleeing the south in massive numbers. They were escaping lynchings and other horrific acts of white racial terror. Their reception by whites in Chicago was also extremely violent.
The Chicago police of the 1940s and 50s were basically execution squads who killed, arrested, or otherwise undermined any Black leader who tried to protect the interests of Black people. In 1969 the Chicago police conspired with federal agents to assassinate Black Panther leader Fred Hampton. All that to say that these are brute inequities that have been centuries in the making. The original intent of Affirmative Action was to correct these injustices rooted centuries Jim Crow and slavery in America.
I think it is fair to say that the Black students at Cornel need guidance on how to frame the problem in a way that does not exacerbate divisions between Africans and African Americans. But the problem they are raising is legitimate. Cornel, and every other tertiary institution in the USA, should have Affirmative Action programs aimed at aggressively recruiting, retaining, graduating African Americans. They can/should do that alongside the robust recruitment of continental and second generation African students.
kzs
kzs
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cell: 336-422-9577
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THE NEUTRAL SCHOLAR IS AN IGNOBLE MAN. Here, a man must be hot, or be accounted cold, or, perchance, something worse than hot or cold. The lukewarm and the cowardly, will be rejected by earnest men on either side of the controversy." Fredrick Douglass, "The Claims of the Negro, Ethnologically Considered" (1854).
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EVERY ARTIST, EVERY SCIENTIST MUST DECIDE, NOW, WHERE HE STANDS. He has no
alternative. There are no impartial observers. Through the destruction, in certain countries, of man's literary heritage, through the propagation of false ideas of national and racial superiority, the artist, the scientist, the writer is challenged. This struggle invades the former cloistered halls of our universities and all her seats of learning. The battlefront is everywhere. There is no sheltered rear. The artist elects to fight for freedom or slavery. I have made my choice! I had no alternative! - Paul Robeson, speech about the Spanish Civil War at the Albert Hall, London,on 24th June 1937
On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Kwabena Akurang-Parry <kaparry@hotmail.com> wrote:
Kwame better is a relative concept with alternative angles of meanings. I premised my conclusions on your previous position that has some empiricisms to it that are measurable. Thus comparative performances predicated on "better" should not be "rejected," but rather nuanced or problematized. I am not getting your arguments and your conclusions! Are you saying that white racism encourages the academic performances of African Africans in the USA, while it discourages the academic performances of African Americans? You write "better" is measured on terms designated by the white status quo and does nothing to challenge the white racist status quo." Does this mean that if African Africans do "better" in schools it promotes white racist status quo and does it mean that if a heterogeneous group does not do well, it then marginalizes or defangs white racism.? I didn't have to belabor the ways that African Americans have benefited from Africans and vice versa. I raised that to counter your statements like "Recent immigrants to America benefit from Black America's unfinished business of racial justice for centuries of white racial terror." I think instead of contesting the academic performances of African Africans in the frameworks immigration, race, and racism, we should rather seek to understand "how" African Africans do "well," if not "better" while others don't. Based on your arguments, I would suggest that white racism in the USA is encompassing, not selective in the sense that it privileges and favors African Africans and their children's educational pursuits. You are free to disagree with my generous position that newly-arrived African Africans find it more difficult to navigate the murky waters of racism than African Americans.
Kwabena
From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com > on behalf of kwame zulu shabazz <kwameshabazz@gmail.com>
Sent: October 25, 2017 2:26 AM
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Cornell¹s Black Student Disunion
Kwabena,
Again, I reject the claim that Africans are "doing better" if "better" is measured on terms designated by the white status quo and does nothing to challenge the white racist status quo. I also know Africans here who are exasperated by the fact that their children are asking why black people are inferior because that's what the white kids and teachers are telling them in school. I have an African friend who has decided that the racial climate is too toxic so they have resolved to send their child back to Nigeria for school. "Doing better" misses those stories.
Who would deny that African Americans have benefited from struggles in Africa? Indeed, African Americans were engaged in the examples you listed--the Italian invasion of Italy and decolonization led by Nkrumah and many others. Two African American pilots flew in defense of Ethiopia despite a US ban on them doing so.
I don't agree that Africans in the US are disadvantaged with navigating institutional racism. In fact it is sometimes the case that immigrants gain privileges by disassociating with African Americans. Moreover, as I noted earlier, the harm caused by white racial terrorism is cumulative. That is to say African Americans, Native Americans, Latin Americans have experienced white brutality generation, after generation, after generation. Some of those victims have been in prison for decades. But the author dismisses all of that as "victimhood."
kzs
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THE NEUTRAL SCHOLAR IS AN IGNOBLE MAN. Here, a man must be hot, or be accounted cold, or, perchance, something worse than hot or cold.Kwabena Akurang-Parry <kaparry@hotmail.com>: Oct 27 03:55PM
Hello,
Ken, I will do so. But let me first visit my pawpaw plantation this weekend then take to your request.
Kwabena
________________________________
From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com > on behalf of Kenneth Harrow <harrow@msu.edu>
Sent: October 27, 2017 3:40 PM
To: usaafricadialogue
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Cornell¹s Black Student Disunion
Hi kwabena
I would be interested in hearingyour assessment of how the Ghanaian university system is working. You've had the experience of u.s. and now Ghana, and although I am sure each university, and each country, is different, we need your first hand experience to be able to assess the situation
ken
Kenneth Harrow
Dept of English and Film Studies
Michigan State University
619 Red Cedar Rd
East Lansing, MI 48824
517-803-8839
harrow@msu.edu<mailto:harrow@msu.edu >
http://www.english.msu.edu/people/faculty/kenneth-harrow/
From: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com > on behalf of Kwabena Akurang-Parry <kaparry@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com >
Date: Friday, 27 October 2017 at 11:14
To: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com >
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Cornell¹s Black Student Disunion
You are now pioneering a new field of arguments with hasty conclusions! What are you using to measure Ghanaian universities? I recently returned home to teach and research and can provide first-hand insights and changes and continuities, but first run away from the generalizations to some specific units of analyses then I can speak to such. If Nigerians intellectuals talk about Nigerians universities, it is that they seek improvements, not that they are saying that every backyard college and third-tier university in America is better than all Nigerian Universities.
________________________________
From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com > on behalf of kwame zulu shabazz <kwameshabazz@gmail.com>
Sent: October 27, 2017 12:43 PM
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Cornell¹s Black Student Disunion
I only cite Chinweizu to credit the phrase "matador"--selfish African elites who are complicit in the dysfunction of African governments.
I can only go by what Nigerians say about Nigerian universities. They all seem to agree that Nigerian education is failing Nigerian students. And what of the mass WEAC debacle? I know Ghana much better. Ghana's flagship universities are regionally ok (but the bar is low)-- Legon, KNUST, UCC--are not world class by any stretch of the imagination. The infracture is generally awful, the classrooms are woefully overcrowded, they lack basic resources such as textbooks, etc.
kzs
On Oct 27, 2017 7:11 AM, "Kwabena Akurang-Parry" <kaparry@hotmail.com<mailto:kaparry@hotmail.com >> wrote:
Please, read carefully: "Prepared better at home" is not a synonym for LIVING in Africa! I use home to mean the influence of the immediate/extended family and the space was even America, not Africa. Remember Chinweizu has his critics, both African and non-Africans. You may also talk about the large number of African scholars who have put American universities in the limelight! Oh yes, there are great African universities in Nigerian and Ghana that are comparable to any in the world. And here, let us return to pan-Africanizing!
________________________________
From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com > <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com >> on behalf of kwame zulu shabazz <kwameshabazz@gmail.com<mailto:kwameshabazz@gmail.com> >
Sent: October 27, 2017 11:32 AM
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com >
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Cornell¹s Black Student Disunion
Kwabena,
If Ghanaians and Nigerians are, in your words, "prepared better at home," then why can't they overwhelm the Black "matador" (Chinweizu) minority and create hundreds top-notch universities in their homelands?
kzs
On Oct 27, 2017 6:15 AM, "Kwabena Akurang-Parry" <kaparry@hotmail.com<mailto:kaparry@hotmail.com >> wrote:
Gloria:
I should have qualified that the Canadian school did not pay my airfare on a silver-platter. It was a competitive grant for needy students that brought non-Canadians, including African Americans, white Americans, and Caribbean, Europeans, Asians,etc., to the school. Your point is that White racism targets African-Americans and that is why African students do "better" at all levels of the educational system! I am not even historicizing this at all. My point is that the difference may be traced to the ways that children are prepared at home to understand the importance of education as a means of vertical mobility. Give and take, Africans and African Americans, both from elite and non-elite homes, attend the same schools, yet Africans do "better." Are we saying that white teachers favor African students in diverse ways? At where you teach, have you seen white professors favoring African students? Sure racism is not only at the school level. And if racism is like an encompassing climate, where and at what point are African students shielded from it! Are LSAT. MCAT, TOEFL, etc. set in ways that advantage African students! The plague of racism affects Africans as much as it impacts African American students, unless we wish to make a reductionist argument that African Americans, unlike Africans, have internalized racism and therefore it has become detrimental to their education. As for structural and systemic racism and the effects of the depredations of white hegemony, be it the Atlantic slave trade, Jim Crow, colonialism, and even unidirectional Globalization, I am sure everyone who comes here understand the impact of such. And I won't belabor such because they are not my frame of reference. And frankly, I am very comfortable with my perspectives and don't wish to take a second look at anyone's opinion as if generous dissent is a disease.
Kwabena
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From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com > <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com >> on behalf of Emeagwali, Gloria (History) <emeagwali@ccsu.edu<mailto:emeagwali@ccsu.edu >>
Sent: October 27, 2017 1:28 AM
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com >
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Cornell¹s Black Student Disunion
Kwabena,
You seem to be waving the flag of the old school conservatives who
avoid looking at structural issues, and the diverse processes of disempowerment at play.
They blame families, culture, rap music, the way people walked,
the way people talked, the food they ate, their genetic profile - and everything under the sun except historical and
current structures of disempowerment. Of course they like to use the word victimhood, too, and take on an air of superiority in the process.
The same Canadian university that paid your ticket from Ghana would probably not spend a penny on a bus fare for the Black Canadians
and Native Americans within their borders. Have you wondered why? I am not saying that you should not have gotten your ticket paid.
I am simply pointing to the complexities and contradictory nature of hegemonic politics.
Kindly have another look at the views of Ken, Kwame, Biko and Moses on this issue..
GE
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From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com > <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com >> on behalf of Kwabena Akurang-Parry <kaparry@hotmail.com<mailto:kaparry@hotmail.com >>
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 8:09 PM
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com >
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Cornell¹s Black Student Disunion
Ken:
Kwame's last paragraph is not in dispute here! But let me ask why African Americans would complain about the increasing number of Africans in elite schools and overlook Asian domination of elite schools! May be Kwame can theorize from some conservative pan-African perspectives, while Ken wave the flag of neo-liberal empiricisms!
Kwabena
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From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com > <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com >> on behalf of Kenneth Harrow <harrow@msu.edu<mailto:harrow@msu.edu >>
Sent: October 25, 2017 11:48 PM
To: usaafricadialogue
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Cornell¹s Black Student Disunion
You can substitute "Detroit" for "chicago" in everything Kwame wrote, and it would be true. Too true. And I full-heartedly endorse his important last paragraph.
ken
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From: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com >> on behalf of kwame zulu shabazz <kwameshabazz@gmail.com<mailto:kwameshabazz@gmail.com> >
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Date: Wednesday, 25 October 2017 at 18:48
To: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com >>
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Cornell¹s Black Student Disunion
Kwabena,
I am in agreement with Ken (see thread) on the gross disparities extant in US K-12 education. Another pressing issue is violence. The pipeline for my institution is Chicago. In the 2.5 years I have worked here, I have had four students from the South Side of Chicago who have close friends who were victims of gunfire. One student has lost six male friends in her community to gunfire. Most Black Chicagoans are the descendants of African Americans who, in the 1920s, starting fleeing the south in massive numbers. They were escaping lynchings<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https- > and other horrific acts of white racial terror. Their reception by whites in Chicago was also extremely violent<https://urldefense.3A__nam02.safelinks. protection.outlook.com_-3Furl- 3Dhttps-253A-252F- 252Furldefense.proofpoint.com- 252Fv2-252Furl-2 53Fu-253Dhttps-2D3A-5F- 5Flynchinginamerica.eji.org- 5F-2526d-253DDwMFaQ-2526c- 253DnE-5F-5FW8dFE- 2DshTxStwXtp0A-2526r-253DZy8I- 5FUX8z9DLbmf5YJ0EIg-2526m- 253DLlLOdtke1b3GmVrTy9A9GS0rzY IOknR5ZCl-5FBGOcRIs-2526s- 253Dkn1v5rV8O-5Fb- 2DpyzJqbENMPFLXfh7tpZlGjb0fPx5 12U-2526e-253D-26data-3D02- 257C01-257Cfj-5Fkolapo- 2540hotmail.com- 257C93a3972546b04463b44e08d51c 047522- 257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaa aaaaaa-257C1-257C0- 257C636445727831599690- 26sdata-3D8MKJvbLMB- 252FR0pAhyN- 252B0ShbBGeJKjblMQyL3wvxLIbQA- 253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFaQ& c=nE__W8dFE-shTxStwXtp0A&r= Zy8I_UX8z9DLbmf5YJ0EIg&m= cOeOAa_5hhNe9LNryA3_ 0DGZL2rNRzodNK7I2FnJHlM&s= WLvCYNI_y7vpc0bzj40FC_ notyQxTPVSjN4FtpiiTAA&e= proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https- >.3A__nam02.safelinks. protection.outlook.com_-3Furl- 3Dhttps-2 53A-252F-252Furldefense. proofpoint.com-252Fv2-252Furl- 253Fu-253Dhttps-2D3A-5F- 5Fdrive.google.com-5Ffile-5Fd- 5F0B-2D2Dr64R- 2D2DJGUFdVkh1bV9SeTVrOHc- 5Fview-2D3Fusp-2D3Dsharing- 2526d-253DDwMFaQ-2526c-253DnE- 5F-5FW8dFE-2DshTxStwXtp0A- 2526r-253DZy8I- 5FUX8z9DLbmf5YJ0EIg-2526m- 253DLlLOdtke1b3GmVrTy9A9GS0rzY IOknR5ZCl-5FBGOcRIs-2526s- 253DIsBrzkhMFe8GpcFuemc- 5FF4KeC02he975JYbo8PifSXM- 2526e-253D-26data-3D02-257C01- 257Cfj-5Fkolapo-2540hotmail. com- 257C93a3972546b04463b44e08d51c 047522- 257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaa aaaaaa-257C1-257C0- 257C636445727831599690- 26sdata- 3DO3O6nYhD7YwvN285uXCgKA2PMWT2 opViNPwNy5w5Ysg-253D- 26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFaQ&c=nE__ W8dFE-shTxStwXtp0A&r=Zy8I_ UX8z9DLbmf5YJ0EIg&m=cOeOAa_ 5hhNe9LNryA3_ 0DGZL2rNRzodNK7I2FnJHlM&s= Cg9bEsSucFE1QmVoEuogma5JJxG-o_ 6ibZnF_c6Pk78&e=
The Chicago police of the 1940s and 50s were basically execution squads who killed, arrested, or otherwise undermined any Black leader who tried to protect the interests of Black people. In 1969 the Chicago police conspired with federal agents to assassinate Black Panther leader Fred Hampton<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https- >. All that to say that these are brute inequities that have been centuries in the making. The original intent of Affirmative Action was to correct these injustices rooted centuries Jim Crow and slavery in America.3A__nam02.safelinks. protection.outlook.com_-3Furl- 3Dhttps-253A-252F- 252Furldefense.proofpoint.com- 252Fv2-25 2Furl-253Fu-253Dhttps-2D3A-5F- 5Fwww.youtube.com-5Fwatch- 2D3Fv-2D3D2VDeeIomV1U-2526d- 253DDwMFaQ-2526c-253DnE-5F- 5FW8dFE-2DshTxStwXtp0A-2526r- 253DZy8I-5FUX8z9DLbmf5YJ0EIg- 2526m- 253DLlLOdtke1b3GmVrTy9A9GS0rzY IOknR5ZCl-5FBGOcRIs-2526s- 253DdEXjr4Lh2XU1oasnf8HE2zv4mq -2DT5zjl2z5IFwzJvRA-2526e- 253D-26data-3D02-257C01- 257Cfj-5Fkolapo-2540hotmail. com- 257C93a3972546b04463b44e08d51c 047522- 257C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaa aaaaaa-257C1-257C0- 257C636445727831755967- 26sdata- 3DxnEC2WHPRli1eeJhyJKlure849v2 hnqrN4C1z4P7N5E-253D- 26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFaQ&c=nE__ W8dFE-shTxStwXtp0A&r=Zy8I_ UX8z9DLbmf5YJ0EIg&m=cOeOAa_ 5hhNe9LNryA3_ 0DGZL2rNRzodNK7I2FnJHlM&s= FuvlHFPQpTa0ITTqpA5x7B8MM_ sRkOPFcf8sNqAT5GI&e=
I think it is fair to say that the Black students at Cornel need guidance on how to frame the problem in a way that does not exacerbate divisions between Africans and African Americans. But the problem they are raising is legitimate. Cornel, and every other tertiary institution in the USA, should have Affirmative Action programs aimed at aggressively recruiting, retaining, graduating African Americans. They can/should do that alongside the robust recruitment of continental and second generation African students.
kzs
kzs
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twitter:kwame zulu shabazz <kwameshabazz@gmail.com>: Oct 27 10:52AM -0500
Toyin,
I have used the term "matador" precisely to acknowledge the fact that we
Africans bear some responsibility for our condition. But I suspect that you
and I won't agree on what I believe is the massive role of ongoing
imperialism that undermines "third world" nations. Or how the US state
crushes, incarcerates, brutalizes, miseducated, impoverishes Black, Brown,
and indigenous Americans.
By definition, hegemony operates on two levels. Level one, the victims are
compelled to be participate in their own oppression. Level two, there
always remains the threat of force of level one becomes unreliable. Or at
least that is my understanding of the concept.
kzs
On Oct 27, 2017 9:59 AM, "Toyin Falola" <toyinfalola@austin.utexas.edu>
wrote:
Kwame:
A small question for you: at what point do we begin to take
responsibilities for our failures, recognizing the hegemonic issues that
overwhelm us? In other words, as Pan-Africanists, who is stopping us other
than ourselves, if the knowledge that is against us, as you map out so
clearly, is understood?
*From: *dialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com > on behalf of kwame
zulu shabazz <kwameshabazz@gmail.com>
*Reply-To: *dialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com >
*Date: *Friday, October 27, 2017 at 7:24 AM
*To: *dialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com >
*Subject: *Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Cornell¹s Black Student Disunion
No. Earlier in the thread is said that Ivys should do both--aggressively
address the problem of brutal disparities in America created by slavery and
Jim Crow whilst continuing the robust recruitment of African students.
Alongside those imperatives, Black radicals must continue to challege the
fundamental problem of racism/white supremacy on college campuses and the
racist white control of knowledge production.
kzs
On Oct 27, 2017 7:10 AM, "Kwabena Akurang-Parry" <kaparry@hotmail.com>
wrote:
If you don't know how do you then summon some "disingenuous....." to rescue
your conclusion! Now you have centralized what you have been skirting
around all along: Africans did not experience slavery and Jim Crow so they
should not benefit from Affirmative Action! The pan-African inclusion is
lost oh!
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*From:* usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <usaafricadialogue@
googlegroups.com> on behalf of kwame zulu shabazz <kwameshabazz@gmail.com>
*Sent:* October 27, 2017 11:53 AM
*To:* usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Cornell¹s Black Student Disunion
Whether Ivy League schools intentionally favor African students I do not
know. However, the question is whether it is disingenuous for Ivy League
administrators to use African students to bolster their claim of
Affirmative Action success stories. If Affirmative Action is about
correcting brutal disparities created by slavery and Jim Crow then the
answer is no. The Ivy Leagues are being dishonest.
kzs
On Oct 27, 2017 6:15 AM, "Kwabena Akurang-Parry" <kaparry@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Once again I find your conclusions problematic. So are you saying that Ivy
League schools forage for African students, but choose to overlook
qualified African American students, to meet their affirmative action needs.
I failed to state early on that one key reason African Americans at Ivy
League schools are questioning the dearth of African Americans on their
campuses as compared to the relatively high number of continental Africans
is that Ivy League schools tout their higher than average enrollment of
Black students as an Affirmative Action success story.
My Great Pan-African Soul Brother, let us just agree to disagree on these
matters. So long!
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*From:* usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <usaafricadialogue@
googlegroups.com> on behalf of kwame zulu shabazz <kwameshabazz@gmail.com>
*Sent:* October 27, 2017 10:50 AM
*To:* usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Cornell¹s Black Student Disunion
Kwabena,
I failed to state early on that one key reason African Americans at Ivy
League schools are questioning the dearth of African Americans on their
campuses as compared to the relatively high number of continental Africans
is that Ivy League schools tout their higher than average enrollment of
Black students as an Affirmative Action success story.
The students are raising a legitimate question. Namely, if the majority of
Black students on campus are not African American, then what sort of
Affirmative Action are you pursuing? The answer is that the original intent
of Affirmative Action was to redress the vast and brutal inequalities
created by slavery, Jim Crow, red lining, lynchings, police brutality,
housing convenants, vagrancy laws, theft of black land, and so on. That
original intent was replaced by a "diversity" model in the aftermath of a
Supreme Court case Bakke vs. the UC Regents (because the white people who
do the oppressing still make and adjudicate the rules)
You asked why African Americans dont they complain about Asian dominance. I
responded that they do. I went on to explain that Asians dominate at elite
institutions on the West Coast. And that both white Americans and Black
Americans complain about that dominance, albeit from different vantage
points (in the case of whites, lost privilege, and in the case of Blacks,
chronic disadvantage). Asians dont dominate at Ivy League schools.
Lastly, you seem to be ignoring the fact that African Americans have been
challenging white people at white-controlled institutions for centuries. We
continue to do so. Our African cousins, on the other hand, don't come
typically come here to challenge racist white-controlled institutions.
Rather, they come here for opportunity denied in their homelands rendered
chronically dependent by imperialism.
kzs
On Oct 27, 2017 4:43 AM, "Kwabena Akurang-Parry" <kaparry@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Kwame, you should say Asians do not WHOLLY dominate elite schools! Blacks
complaining refers to African Americans! These are quibbles to my
arguments, but do not change the trajectory of my conclusions
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*From:* usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <usaafricadialogue@
googlegroups.com> on behalf of kwame zulu shabazz <kwameshabazz@gmail.com>
*Sent:* October 26, 2017 12:56 AM
*To:* usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Cornell¹s Black Student Disunion
Asians aren't dominant at Ivy league schools. In fact there is lawsuit
alleging that the selection process is biased against highly qualified
Asian applicants:
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/us/affirmative -
action-battle-has-a-new-focus-asian-americans.html
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On the West Coast where Asians do dominate numerically at elite schools,
both whites and Blacks complain.
kzs
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