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Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Why Dangiwa Umar Should be theStandard-bearer of the Third Force
You're right, Farooq. The appended word is syndicalists. Which in French means labor unions.
The labor unions are finished, as representatives of the working class, the proletariat.
I can't say that my attachment to their ideals apply to this world any more. The ones I read, in the past, and loved for their political positions begin with mouffe and laclau, their book on socialism and hegemony. All the other best sellers since, which I've read about, etc., well, they don't make me want to join their movement. Like everyone I've been totally taken by Agamben and his signature text on bare life. I align myself as a servant of derrida: he is my ideal, and politically as well as theoretically. His spectres of marx shows the ideal of marx. I share that with Judith butler's work, also, on the holocaust, on dispossession etc.
Those are the theorists I most admire, and as you can see, their work is all getting old by now.
Whatever leadership I would want to imagine, well, it would be less important than the spirit of justice that animates these thinkers' work. I'd have to include spivak among them as well, someone like derrida animated by the ideals of Marxism, but hardly adherents to strict ideologies that would use notions like vanguardism any more.
I agree with all those on this list who speak to the need to create systems, not to find the perfect leader. The systems that address the people's needs in a just way will generate their own successful leaders. After all, as humans we aren't particularly different; but we live under radically different ideological systems, from those like the American one where "justice and freedom for all" is a joke, a sad joke; and others where those notions have a chance of attaining some facsimile of hegemony. We always idealize those places too much, but everyone I know expects that in most respects the Canadians have a more just and humane society than we do; and for a long time the scandanavians were held up as ideal.
I measure the stature of a nation's values by how well they accept refugees, and the u.s. today is very far down on the list—but so too is japan or most other wealthy Asian countries. Sweden, though not as beneficent as Germany, might be actually more beneficent when measured by the size of the population vs the total number of refugees. Cornelius can tell us.
Denmark qualifies as terrible.
And although the placement of refugees into camps is not the same as attempting to accept them as citizens, you have to consider the enormous size of the refugee populations in Tanzania, Uganda, kenya, and out of Africa in Jordan, Lebanon, and turkey.
There are 63 million refugees in the world today.
They are not sitting in their homes, typing into their computers, with the luxuries of those of us exchanging words about ideal political systems as theoretical constructs.
I hope all of you are well, and that whatever system we might imagine together as ideal will include taking care of them as much as taking care of our own.
ken
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Date: Wednesday 31 January 2018 at 18:14
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I was going to write that. Anarchism has suffered what linguists call pejoration, that is, a semantic shift for the worse. It shares that fate with words such as "rhetoric" (which is now understood in popular usage as mere fluff), sophistry (which used to mean the art of persuading convincingly), obsequious (which went from "obedient"--with a tone of approval-- before the 16th century to "showing respect for the dead" in the 16th century, and now to servile), etc. The other day, I was talking to someone I thought had some familiarity with Marxist theory about anarcho-syndicalism and he thought the concept meant workers' lawlessness!
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On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 4:01 PM, Kenneth Harrow <harrow@msu.edu> wrote:
Dear obi, the anarchism I am alluding to was the political movement of the 30s, especially in the Spanish civil war; not anarchism in general. It is a leftist, non-vanguardist movement, embraced by camus.
It sounds as though your notion of the vanguard is a version of the elite? Not saying it is a bad thing, but I like more the ways movements gather together people to collectively move rather than being directed from above.
I know at the level of the nation the collectivity is too large, but there is still a large difference at play here.
ken
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One more for the good guys:
"Following his writings, it would seem entirely plausible to claim that Gramsci's vision was not one of an ultra-centralised oligarchic vanguardist party (although he certainly advocated a high degree of ''democratic centralism'') but a broad-based mass socialist party consolidating the most combative and critical elements in society (particularly from the working class), ''rooted in everyday social reality and linked to a broad network of popular structures (eg. the factory councils and soviets)''. (8) This is a conception of a dialectical unity of politics and economics, a working thesis compatible with a democratic political strategy, although Gramsci was insufficiently consistent and clear on the question of the relation between the macro-structural prefigurative struggle and micro-level transformation of human relations – destruction of undemocratic authority structures, hierarchy and rigid division of labour, both inside the revolutionary party and the social and work processes. »http://www.internationalviewpoint.org/spip.php?article1555
ken
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Obi Nwakanma
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Even when I used to be a doctrinaire Marxist, I also struggled with the praxis and moral propriety of vanguardism. As you said, a select elite few can't possibly embody and give expression to the aspirations of the masses of the people. Nevertheless, the masses, who are often diffident and fatalistic, need to be prodded to shake up the system. And there lies the tension in Marxian epistemology: the notion of an inexorable, deterministic imperative that will propel the masses to take their destiny into their own hands and the reality that the masses need a vanguard to raise their consciousness and to help them extirpate an oppressive system. This tensile epistemological stress is at the core of Laclau and Mouffe's notion of the "double void" in Marxist thought.
But wherever one stands in this debate, it would be escapist to imagine that a leaderless, self-propelled change is possible.
Farooq
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On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 4:37 PM, Kenneth Harrow <harrow@msu.edu> wrote:
Well, vanguardism is one approach—lenin over Trotsky, or over the socialists. Me, I favour socialists, or better still the anarchists of the 30s.
I always took it that the vanguardism of the communists was their worst mistake.
Mistake under stalin
mistake under mao
mistake corrected over and over by Gramsci, by Raymond Williams, by some other notion of consciousness besides that of the elite few who claim to know what the masses don't know
ken
Kenneth Harrow
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Date: Tuesday 30 January 2018 at 13:38
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Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Why Dangiwa Umar Should be theStandard-bearer of the Third Force
Ken,
I was going to write that. Anarchism has suffered what linguists call pejoration, that is, a semantic shift for the worse. It shares that fate with words such as "rhetoric" (which is now understood in popular usage as mere fluff), sophistry (which used to mean the art of persuading convincingly), obsequious (which went from "obedient"--with a tone of approval-- before the 16th century to "showing respect for the dead" in the 16th century, and now to servile), etc. The other day, I was talking to someone I thought had some familiarity with Marxist theory about anarcho-syndicalism and he thought the concept meant workers' lawlessness!
Farooq
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"The nice thing about pessimism is that you are constantly being either proven right or pleasantly surprised." G. F. Will
On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 4:01 PM, Kenneth Harrow <harrow@msu.edu> wrote:
--Dear obi, the anarchism I am alluding to was the political movement of the 30s, especially in the Spanish civil war; not anarchism in general. It is a leftist, non-vanguardist movement, embraced by camus.
It sounds as though your notion of the vanguard is a version of the elite? Not saying it is a bad thing, but I like more the ways movements gather together people to collectively move rather than being directed from above.
I know at the level of the nation the collectivity is too large, but there is still a large difference at play here.
ken
Kenneth Harrow
Dept of English and Film Studies
http://www.english.msu.edu/
people/faculty/kenneth-harrow/ From: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@
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Date: Wednesday 31 January 2018 at 14:45
To: ken harrow <harrow@msu.edu>, usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com >
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Why Dangiwa Umar Should be theStandard-bearer of the Third Force
Obi Nwakanma
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Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 3:13 PM
To: usaafricadialogue
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Why Dangiwa Umar Should be theStandard-bearer of the Third Force
One more for the good guys:
"Following his writings, it would seem entirely plausible to claim that Gramsci's vision was not one of an ultra-centralised oligarchic vanguardist party (although he certainly advocated a high degree of ''democratic centralism'') but a broad-based mass socialist party consolidating the most combative and critical elements in society (particularly from the working class), ''rooted in everyday social reality and linked to a broad network of popular structures (eg. the factory councils and soviets)''. (8) This is a conception of a dialectical unity of politics and economics, a working thesis compatible with a democratic political strategy, although Gramsci was insufficiently consistent and clear on the question of the relation between the macro-structural prefigurative struggle and micro-level transformation of human relations – destruction of undemocratic authority structures, hierarchy and rigid division of labour, both inside the revolutionary party and the social and work processes. »http://www.
internationalviewpoint.org/ spip.php?article1555 ken
Kenneth Harrow
Dept of English and Film Studies
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Obi Nwakanma
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Even when I used to be a doctrinaire Marxist, I also struggled with the praxis and moral propriety of vanguardism. As you said, a select elite few can't possibly embody and give expression to the aspirations of the masses of the people. Nevertheless, the masses, who are often diffident and fatalistic, need to be prodded to shake up the system. And there lies the tension in Marxian epistemology: the notion of an inexorable, deterministic imperative that will propel the masses to take their destiny into their own hands and the reality that the masses need a vanguard to raise their consciousness and to help them extirpate an oppressive system. This tensile epistemological stress is at the core of Laclau and Mouffe's notion of the "double void" in Marxist thought.
But wherever one stands in this debate, it would be escapist to imagine that a leaderless, self-propelled change is possible.
Farooq
Farooq A. Kperogi, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Journalism & Emerging Media
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Author of Glocal English: The Changing Face and Forms of Nigerian English in a Global World
"The nice thing about pessimism is that you are constantly being either proven right or pleasantly surprised." G. F. Will
On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 4:37 PM, Kenneth Harrow <harrow@msu.edu> wrote:
Well, vanguardism is one approach—lenin over Trotsky, or over the socialists. Me, I favour socialists, or better still the anarchists of the 30s.
I always took it that the vanguardism of the communists was their worst mistake.
Mistake under stalin
mistake under mao
mistake corrected over and over by Gramsci, by Raymond Williams, by some other notion of consciousness besides that of the elite few who claim to know what the masses don't know
ken
Kenneth Harrow
Dept of English and Film Studies
http://www.english.msu.edu/
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Date: Tuesday 30 January 2018 at 13:38
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