Not funny : don't forget to go back to the jungle in Africa
As Nobel Laureate Dylan put it in the concluding lines of "The Ballad Of Frankie Lee And Judas Priest"
"Well, the moral of the story
The moral of this song
Is simply that one should never be
Where one does not belong
So when you see your neighbor carryin' somethin'
Help him with his load
And don't go mistaking Paradise
For that home across the road"
On Saturday, 27 January 2018 20:35:22 UTC+1, Cornelius Hamelberg wrote:
In mentioning Fidel, I wanted to add this : Fidel and Religion (268 pages)
And of course the power and beauty of Black , my dear Mother was also "as Black as coal"
On Saturday, 27 January 2018 20:15:38 UTC+1, Cornelius Hamelberg wrote:Baba Kadiri,
Hamelberg is German, all the way from the mythical Adam via Franz and Heinrich and ulitantely to me and my descendants . I am Cornelius, the son of Theodore and Evelyn Adekumbi Hamelberg. You don't have to worry about that.
And to Sister Gloria in excelsis Emeagwali who asked if it was the Queen of Sheba that said " I am black but comely, O daughters of Jerusalem! Like the tents of Kedar, like the curtains of Solomon." as she so insightfully points out the "but" attests to the possibility of some discrimination against black at that time otherwise Solomon would have said "I am black and beautiful" , not, " I am black, but beautiful" - but this is an honest translation. - in some other translations, black is rendered as " swarthy" - a Middle Eastern and Mediterranean hue ( don't forget that the Almighty made Adam which in Hebrew means "dark earth"from which the first man was made, according to the Bible. The dust to which we shall return...
As Cornelis sang in Plogen , " och min hud blir svart, ja svart ja svart i solen" ( and my skin turns black, yes black, yes black in the sun ")
As Naipaul recounts in " A Bend in the River" (which I read in my first month in Nigeria) and if I remember correctly Shiva Naipaul too in his " North of South" (which I read before going to Nigeria) in the East African Africans first encounters with the White man, they thought White folks were ghosts and were quite afraid of them
Dr Khalid al Mansour uses an incident in the Torah, in Numbers 12 to establish his proof of the status of white skin: re- God cursing Moses' sister Miriam as a result of which her skin turned white ( as with leprosy)
Since, according to the Bible, we are all descendants of the sons of Noah , perhaps we should factor in " The Curse of Ham " and this book " in our deliberation on the racial ethics of the US slave owners and their Judeo-Christian foundations from those early days onwards - and this could lead us into a wider discussion that I myself am looking forward to, this kind of thing " Go back to your jungle". I don't like it at all.
I can't help poking just a slight aside here,
Re - "Moreover the designation of any human being as white is not only false but untrue, since we all know that snow is white but no human being looks like snow."
Haven't you ever hear the expression, " as white as a ghost" ?
Nobel laureate Bob Dylan himself posed the question and answered it
"I'm as pale as a ghost
Holding a blossom on a stem
You ever seen a ghost? no
But you've heard of them" (Spirit on the Water)
I don't know if you read the Eldridge Cleaver piece that I posted in my last reply to you or indeed the whole book (a treasury about Black Folklore in the US) but Eldridge, the author of the Soul on Ice indictment of racism - of being Black in America, later tells a very variegated story of how he fled to Cuba about which he reported racism both in the history of Cuba, before the Bay of Pigs and in Fidel's Revolutionary Cuba ( at which time I thought "another undercover CIA agent hired to give Cuba a bad name ( just as there have been stories of FBI agents becoming prison inmates, in order to get close to certain prisoners to obtain some vital information) from there to Algeria and then to Paris, where he was picked up a couple of time by some CIA agents who showed him the sharp edge of a knife and from there, Cleaver voluntarily/ involuntarily repatriated himself to repentance in the US where a completely new man - from Soul on Ice to his new book, a necessary book he says, since that historic event when he "saw the face of Jesus on the moon" and so the title of his new book, " Soul on Fire" - all about his conversion to what you insist is a "Caucasian" religion - even as they follow the Great Command , to preach salvation through the son of God's name, " to the furthest ends of the earth" - and that's how and why Christianity came to Nigeria, long before Nigeria became an independent nation. ( By the way , small world , I got some intimate details about Cleaver's Paris at the funeral of Rashid - Malcolm X's representative in Egypt - at which it was only an Algerian Nuruddin and me who said some prayers in Arabic for Rashid - at the graveside - and as I walked from the grave with Rashid's partner who had been through the thin and thick with him in Paris, I got some details about those tumultuous days there.
In Soul on Fire Cleaver quotes from the Bible, about the purity of whiteness: Isaiah 1 :18
"Come now, let us debate, says the Lord. If your sins prove to be like crimson, they will become white as snow; if they prove to be as red as crimson dye, they shall become as wool."
It should be interesting to know ( surely a subjective experience) what was the colour of the face of Jesus that Cleaver saw on the pale moon?
As you know, Carl Anderson ( a Black man) plays the role of Judas, in "Jesus Christ Superstar"
I have asked Pa google " Who is the anti-Christ ?" and I hope, sure as hell, that we don't get the answer that he is or will be "a Black Man"
David Crane , Chief Prosecutor at Special Court for Sierra Leone once proclaimed - I think that it was in a speech that he delivered in the Holocaust Museum in Washington, that " the devil is alive and he lives in West Africa " ( he was referring to Liberia's Charles Taylor ) for which statement a very sensitive Kotoh Abdul Bangura ( his own skin, as you would say " as black as coal" took him to task....
On Saturday, 27 January 2018 17:17:11 UTC+1, ogunlakaiye wrote:Cornelius, son of Odén,
If you check through the Forum's archives you will discover that you have asked me the same question before which I answered promptly. However, since you recognize me as the son Ògún the origin of my name does not matter but what I do with the name.On my part, I think it will be very foolish of me to ask you about the origin of your name, Cornelius Hamelberg, when I have already recognized you as the son of Odén, one the Swedish Asa gods.S. Kadiri
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By the way , what are the origins of the names Salimonu and Kadiri ? ( If I may so ask ?)
Please don't be angry, Prince Nico Mbarga begins his piece, Tribalism with these words ,
"According to the Bible, all people be one, oh ho
And nah one God create everybody !"
As pointed out in your discussions, Europeans were also enslaved
According to the Bible, after the flood, we (mankind) are all descendants of Noah's sons
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