Salimonu,
You question intelligence of Africans.
You castigate the Western educated elite.
Yet you have long been a defender of ravages carried out across Nigerian by terrorists working with Fulani herdsmen and supported by Miyetti Allah led by Fulani elite , and politically reinforced by the Fulani national ruler Buhari and his govt, and even tried to exonerate the terrorists even as they loudly proclaim they carried out the massacres you try to declare them innoccent of.
You have supported almost anything done by Buhari, even such inane behaviour as his public denigration of his wife.
You are a determined anti-Igbo, anti-IPOB writer, with IBK virtually reenacting the Nigerian Civil War in this group in reference to such issues as mourning Biafra war hero Joseph Achuzie, writing ceaselessly agst the efforts of IPOB to restructure its own region in the face of the glaring chaos you point out as characterizing Nigeria, yet I have not read you suggesting how to address this chaos.
You have tried to whitewash the Boko Haram Islamic terrorist group, stating, in the face of the thousands they have killed, that Boko Haram may have committed murders, preferring to see them as a misunderstood group working to sanitise their part of Nigeria through escape from Western education which you claim is not helping Nigerians and through works of charity, while you ignore their well known killings of rival clerics.
You have demonstrated commitment to maintaining the status quo as long as it supports the present govt, going by your interventions on this group since 2015.
In the midst of this plethora of positions you have demonstrated over the years on this group, dont you think you need to develop a more complex understanding of Nigeria's problems seeing as you embody those problems most glaringly?
Will you blame your Western education for the terrorist sympathies you have demonstrated, for your anti-anything-that-challenges the Nigerian-govt stance, for your support of Buhari's inanities which are destroying the nation, for your inability to comment on the many horrors being committed by the govt you support?
Is it not more realistic to see the entire country, like yourself, as caught up in self defeating contradictions that work agst the professional skills of Nigerians?
Is that not a more realistic perspective than blaming Western educated Nigerians for the country's chaotic state?
Nigerians abroad have fled the contradictions created by a quota system culture, a skewed university admissions policy favouring perpetually 'educationally disadvantaged' states, a culture of perpetual political instability, a culture of corruption arising from the absence of a deep sense of commitment to the nation since its political class do not see the country as something that belongs to them and to which they belong and these fleeing Nigerans are thriving in other places where such nationalistic values are central.
Is it not wiser, therefore, to work out how to restructure the country or vote on its continued existence and the terms of continuation or dissolution instead of persisting in existing in the contradiction and the chaos it breeds?
Why focus on castigating the very education needed to take Nigeria fully into modernity rather than on Nigeria's destructive political system that makes sure the country is not likely to grow significantly as long as that structure is in place?
thanks
toyin
On 4 March 2018 at 03:06, Olayinka Agbetuyi <yagbetuyi@hotmail.com> wrote:
For those of us who have taught college world history for years its like putting the cart before the horse.
It is undoubted that Egyptian architecture influenced the architecture of the Renaissance.
The art of the dome was unquestionably copied from the tomb of Pharaoh Seti I and then spread through Europe by the trio of Da Vinci, Michelangelo and Raphael. The last was credited with the mastery of pillar- less dome copied from the tomb of Seti.
The catacombs in Rome was unquestionably copied from Egyptian subterranean tombs some of which still bear the inscriptions of Romans who made pilgrimages there long before the Renaissance.
The Cretan labyrinths that gave rise to the Minotaur myth is also taught to have its origins in Egypt. Greek (and later American)names of cities like Memphis derived from Egyptian cities are well known.
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-------- Original message --------From: "Emeagwali, Gloria (History)" <emeagwali@ccsu.edu>Date: 03/03/2018 07:25 (GMT+00:00)To: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com >Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - NIGERIA'S LITERATE ZOMBIES
--Good point but the Egyptians built their first pyramid around 2600BC and Rome emerged as a city state around 753 BC.
Can we say that the Romans influenced the Egyptians in their construction of the pyramids - when pyramid construction ceased around 1500 BC?
The Ionian Greeks were the first group of intellectuals that we know and they are a bit later than the Romans. The Greek philosophers like Plato, Aristotle, Hippocrates and Socrates emerge around 400BC. Can we say that they influenced people like Imhotep who were long dead and buried over two thousand years before? For example, Plato was born around 427 BC.
In the case of Mesopotamia, Persia and even China you have more contemporaneous interaction and there are areas of diffusion and borrowing using the model that you suggest, but some cases are clear cut.
Professor Gloria Emeagwali
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