On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 6:48 PM, <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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"Emeagwali, Gloria (History)" <emeagwali@ccsu.edu>: May 04 07:41PM
Did Marx kill more persons than the British, Italian, Portuguese, Spanish, French, Dutch and German conquistadores and colonizers?
Half of the population of Libya was killed by the Italians and ...more
"Farooq A. Kperogi" <farooqkperogi@gmail.com>: May 04 08:03PM -0400
Maybe Jesus' and Muhammad's apologists should be even redder in the face
(if their faces can turn red, that is) since more people have died and
continue to die as a consequence of the teachings--or ...more
Windows Live 2018 <yagbetuyi@hotmail.com>: May 05 06:49AM
The totalising creeds again! Definitely Marxism was one of them. So was colonialism at the behest of the Enlightenment project. What havoc they all wreaked jointly and severally!
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Moses Ebe Ochonu <meochonu@gmail.com>: May 04 09:04PM -0500
Not only that, Farooq and Gloria. How many people have unbridled capitalist
greed, especially the internationalist/imperial variety, killed all over
the world? Marx has proved sentient and in some ...more
Kenneth Harrow <harrow@msu.edu>: May 05 08:57AM -0400
This kind of attack on marx is typical of the red scare anti-communist movement from the 19th century on through the 20th. derrida distinguished between marx and Marxism, or what the various movements ...more
Moses Ochonu <meochonu@gmail.com>: May 05 06:53AM -0500
The other things is, how many people were killed because of the fear of Marxist ideas, to stop Marxist ideas from spreading?
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"Emeagwali, Gloria (History)" <emeagwali@ccsu.edu>: May 05 02:29PM
"The answer is not that Marxism is responsible for fewer deaths than the conquistadores, but that marx's ideals would run counter to such regimes that represented an abuse of marx's thought." ...more
Kenneth Harrow <harrow@msu.edu>: May 05 02:28PM -0400
Marx was not god. We don't have to be fundamentalists, and pretend every thing he wrote, or predicted, was gospel. There are obviously parts of Marxist thought that are mostly discarded by people on ...more
Windows Live 2018 <yagbetuyi@hotmail.com>: May 05 09:17PM
You said Stalin destroyed the lie that Communism is a continuation of Marxism. But Marx and Engels in the Manifesto would disagree with you. They advocated a violent overthrow of the status quo. ...more
Kenneth Harrow <harrow@msu.edu>: May 05 05:40PM -0400
I don't get your point. Marx and engels were indeed revolutionaries, but not with power. They died before the revolution in Russia, by many years. They did believe in violent revolution, to be sure. ...more
Oluwatoyin Adepoju <tvoluade@gmail.com>: May 04 11:56PM +0100
This is misrepresentation-
' The reality that the combined effects of competition for land and water,
crime, and poorly informed media speculations have resulted in a cycle of
conflict with mass ...more
Moses Ebe Ochonu <meochonu@gmail.com>: May 04 10:37PM -0500
Trump is of course wrong in identifying a non-existent agenda of killing
Christians, of religious cleansing against Christians, in Nigeria. He is
echoing the views of his Christian Right base.
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Malami buba <mb4383@aol.com>: May 05 09:25PM +0900
Dear Moses & Jibrin,
As Trump spews his 'Christian Right agenda', with all the 'framing' and 'masking' that go with such campaigns, it's not far fetched to connect the bandits of ...more
Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju <toyin.adepoju@gmail.com>: May 05 09:39AM +0100
We thank God for informed interventions like this by Moses helping us
unravel this madness.
toyin
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Jibrin Ibrahim <jibrinibrahim891@gmail.com>: May 05 02:20PM +0100
Moses
You cannot cherry pick your facts - Zamfara is criminality and Benue is
land alienation - we all know there is massive criminality in Benue, that
various political leaders run criminal gangs ...more
Ashafa Abdullahi <abashafa@gmail.com>: May 05 03:10PM +0100
Bubs you are right. An intellectual excursion into the writings of Caliph
Bella will reveal this foresight. As an architect of archetypal urban
setting, Bello only proposed and did reasonably well ...more
Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju <toyin.adepoju@gmail.com>: May 05 03:59PM +0100
Malami and Jibrin,
Could you please share your views of the role of Miyetti Allah within this
complex?
Miyetti Allah is run by the most elite
Nigerian
Fulani, with the Emir of ...more
Moses Ebe Ochonu <meochonu@gmail.com>: May 05 10:09AM -0500
Jibo,
I am not from Taraba, Southern Kaduna, Plateau, and Nasarawa, where
herdsmen killings have also been widespread over the last decade, so please
spare me the predictable cheap shot of ...more
Jibrin Ibrahim <jibrinibrahim891@gmail.com>: May 05 05:37PM +0100
Toyin, Moses
My position is that we need to rise above the single narrative approach
boxing us into a cheap conspiracy theory. Miyetti Allah is an NGO that
speaks for herders and has many ...more
Moses Ebe Ochonu <meochonu@gmail.com>: May 05 10:49AM -0500
And, by the way, Jibo, speaking of cherrypicking facts, you seem to have
conveniently forgotten that Miyetti Allah, that terrorist organization that
routinely threatens and claims massacres without ...more
Moses Ebe Ochonu <meochonu@gmail.com>: May 05 10:38AM -0500
Malami,
Wow, I find your take to intriguing, insightful, and plausible. It's this
kind of new thinking that will take us to a solution, not the denialism of
some people. In fact, the "brotherhood ...more
Malami buba <mb4383@aol.com>: May 06 12:20AM +0900
You are THE specialist on this subject, Toyin. What do I know?
Malami
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Windows Live 2018 <yagbetuyi@hotmail.com>: May 05 05:04PM
I'm not sure this response supports the claim that Moses is " cherry picking'' How do you analytically unravel dissimilar narratives without 'cherry picking?'
O. Agbetuyi
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Moses Ochonu <meochonu@gmail.com>: May 05 12:44PM -0500
Jibo,
Unfortunately, you're beginning to sound like Trump. Any narrative that does not suit your pro-herdsmen position, for which you have been called out by many on this list, you attribute to ...more
Olajumoke Yacob-Haliso <jumoyin@gmail.com>: May 05 10:41AM -0700
Prof Jibrin, thanks for spotlighting and using the word "epidemic" to describe the drug problem in Nigeria today which cuts across all ethnic, religious, regional, class, gender, whatever other ...more
Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju <toyin.adepoju@gmail.com>: May 05 08:37PM +0200
I wonder what relationship there could be between what is described as new
herdsmen and those whose cows are shown occupying classrooms in a school in
Edo state, destroying the crops of various ...more
Moses Ebe Ochonu <meochonu@gmail.com>: May 05 01:28PM -0500
And when are we going to stop using the 1965 Northern Nigeria grazing
reserve law as a reference? This was a law enacted by the ruling NPC
government, which had very little support in the Middle ...more
Windows Live 2018 <yagbetuyi@hotmail.com>: May 05 08:52PM
Jibrin:
I note your observations on Miyetti Allah and conspirator theorists with interest. I was about to commend your last Friday call for more enlightened participants with observations when this ...more
Windows Live 2018 <yagbetuyi@hotmail.com>: May 05 09:41PM
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Toyin Falola <toyinfalola@austin.utexas.edu >: May 05 09:28PM
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Toyin Falola <toyinfalola@austin.utexas.edu >: May 05 09:25PM
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Olajumoke Yacob-Haliso <jumoyin@gmail.com>: May 05 07:26PM +0100
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Moses Ebe Ochonu <meochonu@gmail.com>: May 05 11:01AM -0500
Marxism has flaws, as do all other isms, and I have pointed out some of
these flaws in several of my exchanges with Ken Harrow on this list. For
me, the biggest flaw in Marxism is not even what this ...more
Kenneth Harrow <harrow@msu.edu>: May 05 02:34PM -0400
One more small point on berman's otherwise strong essay. If you read Raymond Williams or even Althusser, on Marxist economic determinism, so called economism, you'll see that it is a vulgar ...more
Olajumoke Yacob-Haliso <jumoyin@gmail.com>: May 05 05:45PM
Quote:
"The UN's Economic Commission for Africa shares those fears. This year it
reported that pastoralists were involved in the majority of ongoing African
conflicts, including those in the ...more
Tunji Olaopa <tolaopa2003@gmail.com>: May 05 01:12PM
http://reubenabati.com.ng/index.php/component/k2/item/ 8408-university-of-ibadan- hearty-cheers-for-a- postcolonial-university-at-70
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Toyin Falola <toyinfalola@austin.utexas.edu >: May 05 01:42PM
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Anthony Akinola <anthony.a.akinola@gmail.com>: May 05 12:08PM +0100
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Amatoritsero Ede <esulaalu@gmail.com>: May 05 05:43AM -0700
Africa has been in trouble since 1441 when the Portuguese sailors, Antão
Gonçalves and Nuno Tristão, "threw down rusted anchor" in Cabo Branco on
the coast of modern Mauritania, went on ...more
Amatoritsero Ede <esulaalu@gmail.com>: May 05 05:40AM -0700
Maple Tree Literary Supplement, MTLS, issue #23 is finally live and as hot
and fresh as bakery rolls at www.mtls.ca/issue23
Amatoritsero Ede editorializes on the re-colonization of Africa; author ...more
Tunji Olaopa <tolaopa2003@gmail.com>: May 05 08:31AM
http://thenationonlineng.net/how-nigeria-can-raise-next- generation-of-leaders-by- olaopa/
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"Emeagwali, Gloria (History)" <emeagwali@ccsu.edu>: May 05 12:52AM
Toyin,
Thanks a lot for the detailed response. I guess it falls under "C".
Gloria
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Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju <toyin.adepoju@gmail.com>: May 05 03:57AM +0100
Thanks.
I wonder if I would describe this largely one sided warfare as 'Fulani
Against the Rest of Nigeria'.
The majority of Hausa and Fulani are in the unfortunate situation of being ...more
"Farooq A. Kperogi" <farooqkperogi@gmail.com>: May 05 01:21AM -0400
Saturday, May 5, 2018
Buhari's American Visit: The High and Low Points
<https://www.farooqkperogi.com/2018/05/buharis-american- >visit-high-and-low.html
*By Farooq A. Kperogi, Ph.D.* ...more
Gbemi Tijani <tijanigbemi@gmail.com>: May 05 09:44AM +0300
Thats my ow n thinking to prior to security issues -APC & he himself ought
to brief the nation via TVRADIO FREQUENTLY ON STATE OF THE NATIONN
SECURITY & RECOVERY OF LOOTED FUNDS TILL DATE
GBEMI tj ...more
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