Toyin Adepoju,
Let's repose our hopes in Prince of Peace as a good way forward
In the long run, unity is strength : United States of America. United States of Nigeria. Hold your breath : United States of Africa!
Into how many separate and independent units can Nigeria be fragmented ?
Consider : Next door, the English speaking region of Cameroon is experiencing their own insurmountable troubles...
Referendum ! Referendum! Easier said than done. If IPOB were to succeed in obtaining their divorce from Nigeria peacefully, then others would follow - peacefully - and eventually there would be no sleeping giant left to wake up.
Today, one is quaintly reminded of a popular phrase that repeatedly surfaces in this forum, about "Professors of electricity producing darkness only". Nowadays, The New Testament advice against being "unequally yoked" is being frequently invoked for separation ; you've heard it before : "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?"
Let's pray that the Naija nation will survive under a new constitutional umbrella
"History, we are forced to notice time and again, does not progress in majesty and unbroken speed to an accustomed and predictable destination." (Ayo Olukotun)
I hope that President Buhari reads Prof Ayo Olukotun's latest column or that somebody kindly reads it to him
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On Thursday, 28 June 2018 18:49:57 UTC+2, Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju wrote:
such movements were emerging, emboldened by IPOBNnamdi Kanu has been dissapeared, but that is simply trying to cover up a volcano. it cant work in the long runOn Thu, 28 Jun 2018 at 08:21, Cornelius Hamelberg <cornelius...@gmail.com> wrote:--This says it all : Hum Allah
As the saying goes, "If wishes were horses, beggars would ride."
Still thinking of the Nigerian football squad as "national cohesion in action", I was shocked to read this sorry comment on Charles Ogbu's Facebook page, yesterday : "Thank God Nigeria has been kicked out and it will never return to any future World Cup. Giving births to the real nations starting with Biafra. In Jesus Name I Pray, AMEN."
If all goes as you wish there should be several grassroot movements sprouting in the major ethnic enclaves all over the Federation, including the once shrillMujahid Dokubo-Asari of the oil-rich Niger Delta clamouring, "We Want a Referendum !"
But as you very well know that's a very tall order. The last time there was a national sovereign conference in Nigeria it was forbidden that the dissolution of the country could be discussed or be on the agenda. From that point of view Referendum as an idea / the beginning of a solution, is anathema and a non-starter. The demographics would have to change radically for that to happen. So, Toyin, what is man supposed to do?
We know how difficult things are - there are the holy men of the north in the shape of the Sultan of what was once the Caliphate of Sokoto, which many pray inshaAllah, shall be restored to its former glory, then there's His Holiness the Emir of Kano, and still true North, there's the minority flock behind Bishop Kukah who sounds like a veritable thorn in their midst, (a thorn in their flesh) the former it seems would not want to see Nigeria dismembered just as in the West we have Pastor Adebayo who as has been suggested by you know who, probably, possibly he and all his Yoruba people have been appeased " naively" by Buhari's special medicine known as the June 12th decree, conferred posthumously on Chief Abiola.
Sokoto, Kano, add to the mix Nnamdi Kanu and his folks who are singing along with Lopez walker, "Send another Moses" and at this point one can only hear Kanu's cry to the man you say that you electorally anointed as Nigeria's new Pharaoh , fading away, we can only faintly hear him( Kanu) and Chidi saying, but not to his face, "Let my people go!"
Personally, I don't like this song at all, have never liked it ( but did go to his concert in Stockholm, many, many years ago : Mutabaruka : Any which way Freedom
Not this line either " And if it takes ammunition" in Steel Pulse: Handsworth Revolution
And the chilling title of this one : Leon Thomas : Shape your Mind To Die
I much prefer Chief Dr. Oliver De Coque - No More War
Me no want no tribal war : Therefore : Dialogue
On Thursday, 28 June 2018 13:46:24 UTC+2, Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju wrote:lets have a referendum as to whether or not to continue together. those who wish to go should do so. those who do not wish to go should renegotiate the terms of their sharing the nation.democracy in nigeria has become a terrorist toolOn Thu, 28 Jun 2018 at 04:07, Cornelius Hamelberg <cornelius...@gmail.com> wrote:--Toyin,
There's clearly, so much frustration in all quarters if the Federation!
The Sultan of Sokoto, the Emir of Kano, Pastor Adebayo, Farooq Kperogi, the big grammar, the profound analyses, the loud protestations and the ritual condemnations of not only grammatical savagery and corruption of the language empires ( and emperors) in this forum and the rest of the social media and the Naija polity is alright ( so much hot air) but you also have your representatives in the national assembly and the other organs of government whose voices ought to be raised a lot louder than yours, to the extent that you should be able to hear your own thoughts reflected on these matters!
In this We and Them scenario, are you actually passing judgment that Democracy is not working in Nigeria.
We can't be forever banging our heads against the iron dome impasse and getting absolutely nowhere, even as the corpses and carcasses of unburied men corrupt the air. So, how do you get these problems on the agenda for the next National conference in Nigeria - and – who should be invited to participate in such a conference? Perhaps the scholars that Professor Falola has in mind when he says, " We, as scholars, must do serious analysis and suggest solutions, disagree around those solutions and arrive at a consensus. Than consensus must then be translated to policies."
On Thursday, 28 June 2018 05:21:44 UTC+2, Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju wrote:Why did these characters not raise an outcry about such a horrific act of provocation so the world can know that the Fulani people are more victim than victimizer?They have among their ranks and enablers the President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, the Inspector General of Police-both of which latter, after a security council meeting with Buhari,helped justify their latest massacre in Benue , El Rufai, the vocal and ethnically committed governor of Kaduna State, with the apex headship of the same Miyetti Allah making these claims of persecution headed by the Sultan of Sokoto, the head of Nigeria's Muslims and one of Nigeria's most vocal and openly combative public figures, a banker of international reputation, Islamic scholar and public intellectual, ex-central bank governor Sanusi Lamido Sanusi, the very Sanusi who hastily rose to claim a likely non-factual massacre of Fulanis in Taraba, a claim made in an effort to counter widespread outrage agst the latest massacre by Fulanis in Benue,the same Sanusi who, as central bank governor, fought then President GEJ to a standstill, publicly declaring the President could not sack him, his being removed only when he was out of the country perhaps enabled by the silence of governors from his region who were uncomfortable with his growing stature as a counter-President, the outspoken and combative senator Shehu Sani of Kaduna state, the one prominent Fulani who has made some gesture of entering in to dialogue with his nomadic kinsmen on their growing terrorist profile- in the midst of the groundswell of public opinion agst their bloodstained selves attested by massacres and individual killings across the nation and with a veritable army of spokespeople who are speaking for them, they abided the claimed attack in silence and waited till they had retaliated , thereby justifying their growing branding as lawless people unfit for civilized society before bringing up those charges.Goodwill does not mean one should not critically examine one's environment and circumstances.Misinformation is a central plank in the propaganda arm of this war these characters have unleashed on Nigeria.This propaganda is built on the long held horrified incomprehension of Nigerians and the need to confuse the slowly growing awareness of Nigerians in the face of tacit and overt actions that demonstrate the ethno-religious terrorism being orchestrated by a govt in which they had gullibly placed their hopes.We are already at war.If you are a Nigerian but not an ethnic scion of Uthman Dan Fodio or a member of the Hausa states which he conquered or do not belong to the religion as practiced in the region where he imposed his hard line feudalistic approach to that religion,the seedbed of the savage intolerance that recurrently flares in that culture, war has been declared agst you.The only way out is the reworking of the nation. The feudal warlords will never allow it and they have state controlled and ethnic miltia to crush any opposition. The political class are caught in fear and self serving cowardice.The general adoption of the IPOB strategy of peaceful disobedience in order to force a referendum on the dissolution of the nation is the only way out I can see.Why negotiate with your inferiors when you can overrun them?Why share power when you can rule?That is the mindset we are up against in dealing with these atavistic characters.toyinOn Wed, 27 Jun 2018 at 14:18, Cornelius Hamelberg <cornelius...@gmail.com> wrote:--Vincent Oluwatoyin Adepoju,
"Who, if I cried out, would hear me among the Angelic Orders?"
I hope that you agree that it is not the time for beating war drums
Nigeria and the Nigerian Authorities have to take this attention-seeking cry of desperation seriously:
"(2) That apart from stealing hundreds of cows belonging to FULANI, these criminal elements also set ablaze several houses belonging to peaceful FULANI natives across the entire territories in Barkin Ladi and Plateau."
As we all agree, it is the duty of the Nigerian Authorities to look into the grievances of all sides to these conflicts. Turning a blind eye to this tragic turn of events could only encourage an escalation along the same trajectory of endless reprisals - the shedding of blood, not of cows but of men, women and children.
Such a sorry state of affairs recorded in the poetry of the Quran :
"And when thy Lord said unto the angels: Lo! I am about to place a viceroy in the earth, they said: Wilt thou place therein one who will do harm therein and will shed blood, while we, we hymn Thy praise and sanctify Thee? He said: Surely I know that which ye know not."
Since prior to this day the only other time that you have mentioned THE FULANI NATIONALITY MOVEMENT or their " National President"Badu Salisu Ahmadu in this forum was on the 15th of January this year , can they be said to represent more than a tiny fragment of what purports to be Fulani nationhood or an organised movement for the achievement of the stated aim ( ambition) of nothing less than a Fulani Empire stretching "from Sokoto to the banks of the Atlantic Ocean." ?
Whereas the ethnic chauvinism / nationalism of other nationalist movements lay claim to their ethnic enclaves (Biafra, Oduduwa etc.) this particular group is not even talking about peaceful dialogue to iron out differences but wants to provoke the rest of Nigeria to submission, conquest and subjugation knowing that the Igboman and the Yoruba man and for sure the Kalabari man will have none of that!
If anything, doesn't this storm in a teacup serve to unite the rest of Nigeria (the non-Fulani ethnic and their allies) against such a strange idea ?
On Wednesday, 27 June 2018 20:23:14 UTC+2, Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju wrote:I am not the only one making these assessments.Nnamdi Kanu is credited with having made accurate predictions years ago unfolding today in this horror.Opinion leader, Facebook blogger and Guardian Nigeria columnist Charles Ogbu has been crying out about this for a long time, same with Mgbeke Obi and other people in my Facebook feed.When an Atiku can threaten Nigeria with violent change bcs he was not made PDP 2011 Presidential candidate, when a chairman of the then ruling PDP in the person of Bamanga Tukur is able to declare of the then purely anti-govt and anti-Christian savagely bloodlettingly destructive Boko Haram in their 2011-2013 period that they were 'freedom fighters', when a Buhari, already then the most prominent Northern Muslim politician, is able to declare that the war agst Boko Haram is war agst the North, when a Murtala Nyako, then governor of Adamawa, is able to declare that the war agst Boko Haram is anti-North genocide, when Kassim Shettima, as governor of Borno, is able to enable the kidnap of the girls in Chibok by keeping that rural school open even though the fed govt had ordered all schools in such outskirts closed, keeping it open agst the security advise of WAEC officials who feared for their invigilators' safety, thereby provoking outrage on the kidnap that finally defeated a govt that was winning the anti-Boko Haram war, when you have a continuity of strategy but at a more expansive, better coordinated level from Boko Haram to right wing Fulani terrorism, with the terrorists openly represented by Miyetti Allah, headed by the country's most elite Fulani, of which the Sultan of Sokoto, the head of all Nigeria's Muslims and the Emir of Kano, ex-central bank governor Sanusi Lamido Sanusi, are the most prominent, in an environment in which practically the first action of the Fulani national ruler was to make almost all heads of the security agencies and INEC his fellow Fulani and Hausa-Fulani, even as most Nigerians from the ethnicity represented by these characters and their militia look on in silence as the massacres continue unrelentingly, while a few make half hearted critiques while others justify the massacres, you know that you are in very, very serious trouble.The South, the Middle Belt and the non-Muslim communities of Southern Kaduna have been outmaneuvered in a war that entered its decisive phase with the escalation of the Boko Haram insurrection following on Atiku's threat to Nigeria, with the escalation of right wing Fulani terrorism on the ascension of Buhari being the second phase of this war.The war is already lost by the South.The tragedy is that the political elite are refusing to grasp the crisis as they maintain silence leaving the outcries to the general populace.The South have a weak, self centred and compromised political elite.The best available to us is the IPOB option. Peaceful dissolution through civil disobedience.No one else can share space progressively with the right wing mentalities that dominate the Muslim North.They represent the worst of tribal recrudescence and are among the more deadly of closed minded religious identifications.What they seek is total domination. Domination of physical space. Domination through politically engineered legislation. Their vision is to kill and kill till you accept their demands.They present their demands through legislation which their political wing proposes in response to the massacres by their foot soldiers, their military wing.They began with advancing legislation creating grazing routes for the Fulani herdsmen, their penetration force, across the country.That did not work and so they unveiled the idea of each state providing ranches to Fulani herdsmen.That did not work so they presented a modification of this idea through advancing legislation to create cattle colonies across the nation.That has not fully worked.They are also seeking to forcefully nullify all anti-open grazing laws, claiming this will only be a suspension of the laws. They are therefore seeking to abrogate the rights of states through federal fiat.The Fulani and Hausa-Fulani warlords are making the Middle Belt the primary testing ground of their scorched earth strategies.They have engaged in similar tests of their strategy in the SE, the SW and the former Midwest-Edo state.They have shown their mettle to the Niger Delta through Buhari's ordering a bombing raid there as one of the first acts of his national role.On account of their control of both a non-state army and Nigeria's security forces while other peoples are not even aware of the fact of the war or of its scope, meaning defeating them militarily is almost impossible, IPOB's civil disobedience secession strategy is their most dangerous opponent, and aided by the shortsightedness of Nigerians and the myopia of SE governors, they succeeded in pushing back the momentum generated by IPOB, which if left unchecked, could have led eventually to the referendum demanded by IPOB and the secession of the SE, following which such restive zones as the Niger Delta would likely have left, upon which the spoils represented by Nigeria would have lost much of its value.thankstoyintoyinOn Wed, 27 Jun 2018 at 08:50, Okechukwu Ukaga <ukag...@umn.edu> wrote:This is simply unbelievable. I hope it is fake news. Otherwise, it clearly makes Adepuju a prophet ahead of his times. I hope he is wrong, for I never wanted to believe his interpretation of events. But it is hard to overlook the mounting evidence...... Nevertheless, I still hope and pray that Buhari will prove him wrong, even if belatedly and for selfish political reasons...June 12 style. Naivete?OU--On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 1:39 PM, Oluwatoyin Adepoju <tvol...@gmail.com> wrote:------------ Forwarded message ---------
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Date: Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 2:55 PM
Subject: [NaijaPolitics] The Killings in Plateau: FUNAM Reacts
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FOR IMMEDIATE MEDIA RELEASEJUNE 25, 2018THE KILLINGS IN PLATEAUSTATEMENT BY THE FULANI NATIONALITY MOVEMENT, (FUNAM)WE REMAIN SOLID AND UNSHAKEN BY THE WINDOur attention has been drawn to the series of campaigns being waged against the FULANI NATIONALITY following the killings in PLATEAU where some civilians who have been tormenting the FULANI nation were justifiable hacked down;Why is it convenient for Nigerians to condemn the killings of Birom but fail to condemn the killings of Fulani people?We frown at theconscious attempts to demonize the FULANI nation by the media and their collaborators;We wish to make the following categorical statements on the Plateau incidence:1) The killings in Barkin Ladi was motivated by previous killings of FULANI men and women by Birom youths in collaboration with certain minority ethnic groups in PLATEAU. We hereby justify this retaliatory attacks and warn that we shall continue to defend ourselves and uphold the FULANI heritage now and in the future. Let it be known that the Fulani Special Force coordinated the attacks;For the avoidance of doubt, our heritage is that ANY ATTACK ON A SINGLE FULANI IS AN ATTACK ON ALL. ANY OF SUCH ATTACKS MUST BE COUNTERED WITH TRIPLE MEASURE.2) That apart from stealing hundreds of cows belonging to FULANI, these criminal elements also set ablaze several houses belonging to peaceful FULANI natives across the entire territories in Barkin Ladi and Plateau.3)That we have said it several times that Plateau is an indigenous territory of the FULANI people. We are the first to settle in Plateau-Benue axis thousands of years ago. We shall take and posses every inch of this land; A conscious attempt to rewrite history and distort, manipulate or destroy our past will be resisted with all the might at our disposal.4) That there is a clear agenda to divide Nigeria and exterminate the FULANI people. We are long aware of this plot. We call on FULANI all over Africa to prepare for this inevitable war and set our people on an offensive path rather than being weaklings that choose a defensive strategy in warfare.5) We have said it over and over, that Nigeria is the only inhertrance we have in Africa and anywhere in the world. This land belongs to us, from Sokoto to the banks of the Atlantic Ocean. This was the destiny bestowed on Uthman Dan Fodio which would have been fulfilled since 1816 if not for the obstruction of this great assignment by the British. It is no longer time to play the ostrish. Our men are waiting. We are eager to fight. We are boiling with the zeal to actualize our dream; enough of double dealing and ambivalence by FULANI political leaders who unfortunately think the FULANI can only take back what belongs to us through appeasement and elections destined to reflect cultural values antithetical to the preachings of Uthman Dan Fodio.6) We warn that nothing will be able to save those raising their voices against us and Allah. Nothing will be left behind, from the East, West and Middle Belt except those who accept the creation of Allah and the leadership place of Fulani in fulfilling this destiny. Since this irresponsible Western notion of democracy was imposed, the Fulani have been shortchanged and maligned. The Middle-Belt, the West and the East should be prepared. We are already here.7) Let the Birom and the ethnic minority invaders in the entire Middle Belt leave our territory or be prepared to accept our ways of live. It is time for them to savour their wounds. It is just the beginning. Many more will come and nothing can stop us.7) Insha Allah, we shall take this battle across the sea, on the land, in the air, on the mountains, in every territory currently occupied by the Kafirs. This is our position. This is our destiny. For those who think they can stop or continue to conspire against us, we wish them good luck.SignedBadu Salisu AhmaduNational PresidentUmar Amir Shehu
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