"Hostile researchers who may directly or indirectly contaminate or
falsify research outcomes to prove the theory wrong, will have to be excluded, and so, too, stakeholders,
unbridled supporters and "believers" who may try to prove the opposite."
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Hostile researchers who may directly or indirectly contaminate or falsify research outcomes to prove
the theory wrong, will have to be excluded, and so, too, stakeholders,
unbridled supporters and "believers" who may try to prove the opposite by unfairly manipulating the evidence.
There is no such thing as total objectivity in science. Facts themselves are theory laden (Hanson) but
one has to be prepared to give as impartial a view as humanly possible, and not jump to conclusions in haste.
Professor Gloria Emeagwali
History Department, Central Connecticut State University
www.africahistory.net
History Department, Central Connecticut State University
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Chief Editor- "Africa Update"
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2014 Distinguished Research Excellence Award in African Studies
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2019 Distinguished Africanist Award
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Although I entered this discussion, initially, on the issue of the FBI , the CIA,
and the U.S. Stargate program, let me now quote one of the 20th century's great philosophers of science,
Paul Feyerabend, who says this about Voodoo in Against Method (2010):
"Nobody knows it, everybody uses it as a paradigm of backwardness and confusion. And yet Voodoo has a firm though still not
sufficiently understood material basis, and a study of its manifestations can be used to enrich, and perhaps
even to revise our knowledge of physiology" (Feyerabend p.30). He precedes this comment by stating
that in many cases theories "are abandoned before they had an opportunity to show their virtues." Some of these "may
appear strange and nonsensical only because the information they contain is either not known or is distorted by
philologists or anthropologists unfamiliar with the simplest physical, medical or astronomical knowledge"
(Feyerabend p.29).
The problem with Nwolise is that he jumped the gun and came to his conclusion before the research was actually done.
He then proceeded to be both judge and jury all at once. He just couldn't step back, and approached the subject as a believer -
and not as an investigator into the phenomenon. In fairness to him I have to say that to study Voodoo, effectively, one
may need a multidisciplinary teams of botanists, biochemists, hypnotherapists, psychologists, theologians and physicists.
In the end the result may prove negative - or otherwise. Hostile researchers who may directly or indirectly contaminate or
falsify research outcomes to prove the theory wrong, will have to be excluded, and so, too, stakeholders,
unbridled supporters and "believers" who may try to prove the opposite.
GE
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Professor Gloria Emeagwali
History Department, Central Connecticut State University
www.africahistory.net
History Department, Central Connecticut State University
www.africahistory.net
Chief Editor- "Africa Update"
www.vimeo.com/gloriaemeagwaliGloria Emeagwali's Documentaries
2014 Distinguished Research Excellence Award in African Studies
University of Texas at Austin
2019 Distinguished Africanist Award
New York African Studies Association
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Gloria,
Gloria, you can raise a straw man and proceed to knock it down if it tickles your fancy. I stated in my response to Okey Ukaga that I know of many instances where investigators (both local police and FBI) consulted psychics in their investigations of crimes. They are not a military organization engaged in military intelligence gathering, are they? In most of these cases consulting is not even the right word since it was the psychics that approached the investigators claiming to be able to help. If I'm an investigator desperate to crack a case--especially a cold case-- will I turn down the offer of help from anyone? No. I will explore it and cover all leads. So the issue comes down to whether crimes have been solved by psychics or not. Anybody can claim anything. A historian of all people should know better than to valorize the claims of people who purport to see into the realm of the unknown, predict the future, see into past events, etc. The question I posed earlier is simple and you're evading it: has any modern military, including the US military ever put ESP and other psychic techniques into operational use? Now you say it does not matter if they actually used it successfully. And of course you're silent on whether any modern military has or still uses such techniques beyond simply researching and abandoning it for lack of merit.
Even the Nigerian police to the best of my knowledge would not look favorably on consulting "ghosts and spirits" in their investigations but here we have a Professor being applauded by generals for urging them to rely on ghosts and spirits in their military intelligence work and we are defending that crap.
On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 6:38 PM Emeagwali, Gloria (History) <emeagwali@ccsu.edu> wrote:
--You are just as bad as the professor. He cannot stand back and engage in a cool headed analysis- but neither can you, apparently.. How about engaging in some serious research into the U.S Stargate project and letting us know the outcome of such an investigation? Are scholars not supposed tohave an open investigative mind in their research?
The issue here is this:
Have the US FBI and CIA etc ever used psychics? Yes or no?Whether the outcomes were successful or not is not the issue.
I have no vested interest in this discussion but I remember shaking my head years agowhen the Chanda Levy case surfaced. The issue about the FBI use of psychics wasopenly discussed then.
Now as for your man at the NDA, well that is another story for another day.
He does not have much credibility, given the way he approached the subject.I never said that he did - so don't put words in my mouth, so to speak.
Professor Gloria Emeagwali
History Department, Central Connecticut State University
www.africahistory.netChief Editor- "Africa Update"www.vimeo.com/gloriaemeagwali
Gloria Emeagwali's Documentaries2014 Distinguished Research Excellence Award in African StudiesUniversity of Texas at Austin2019 Distinguished Africanist AwardNew York African Studies Association
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Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 5:29 PM
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Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Nigeria is Doomed and Her Academics are CulpableGloria,
The CIA investigated ESP and other mind control technics and claims and even experimented with using psychedelic drugs to induce that effect. They were acting on claims that those techniques work to extract information from prisoners of war, make people do things they would not normally do, and that the Soviets were using them. The CIA poured millions of dollars into the investigation over several years, found the claims to be bogus, and abandoned the entire research/investigation. They never actually used it since they couldn't prove its veracity. ESP and claims about mind control and mind altering with or without drugs are not the same as using "ghosts and spirits" but even if they were, why are we dignifying something that was investigated with millions of dollars and found to be useless and bogus? Why is the Nigerian military inviting someone who peddles that kind of discredited crap to lecture our generals, to urge them to use the discredited nonsense of using ghosts and spirits for military intelligence gathering?
As I stated, I know of no police case in the US that has ever been solved with psychic consultation. Your own story that you posted says as much.
Let's not dignify tragic academic nonsense. I see a case of pandering here. I abhor pandering. I don't even want people to pander to me. If you catch me peddling BS, call me out directly on it. Especially if the BS is a dangerous one that may harm the vital work of the military in a country beset by several threats to her sovereignty.
--On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 2:13 PM Emeagwali, Gloria (History) <emeagwali@ccsu.edu> wrote:
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The first time I heard of psychics and the FBI was in terms of the death of a Washingtonintern named Chandra Levy. CNN alluded to this matter in a Dec. 2007 articleentitled "Visions of death. Can psychics see what detectives cannot."In that article they point to Kathlyn Rhea a psychic investigator in Californiawith some successes. One critic points to numerous dead end cases.
But this is not to endorse the professor. He can't even spell.
What about the CIA and psychics? I did a quick check and found out about the Stargate project that built on a secret US army unit established a 20 million dollar project in the 1970s to investigate potential psychic phenomena including extrasensory perception.
GE
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