Nice work Prof. But you are being unfair to Iche. You are observing her in captivity and Ugo in freedom. The house is not the natural abode of Iche. You will find some eagles in zoos too. The differentiation and distiinction is apt, but you have to be fair. You have to place them both either in captivity or in freedom. Mee nwanyi ka emere ibe ya.
Further, you may also check your spelling of "eme." Me thinks that the way you have spelled it means the oposite of your translation. "Eme"here is "does like" but "emeighi" is "does not do like." Or more accurate Iche anaighi eme ka Ugo. Yes? I maybe wrong.
I enjoyed it thoroughly nonetheless.
Ya awuru uka, wuru ilulu.
Dr. Ugorji
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Biko Agozino <bikozino@yahoo.com>: May 05 11:58PM
The Professor was analyzing a core belief of most Nigerians and that is what social scientists do. He is not alone in identifying that Nigerians believe that juju is factual. Awolowo stated the same ...more
Toyin Falola <toyinfalola@austin.utexas.edu>: May 05 10:48PM
Question:
Is the professor expressing a belief system or affirming a belief system? If expressing a belief system, there is nothing new in what he has said. If he is affirming it, can you and I ...more
Moses Ebe Ochonu <meochonu@gmail.com>: May 06 05:11AM -0500
Oga TF,
As a person of faith myself I have absolutely no problem with people
believing in whatever they choose. That is their right. However, there are
two issues here. One is that this was an ...more
Adeshina Afolayan <shina73_1999@yahoo.com>: May 06 08:00AM
I also need to add that Prof. Nwolise must have taken the Comaroff's advice on anthropological research. In "Occult Economies and the Violence of Abstraction," they advised that the encounters between ...more
Adeshina Afolayan <shina73_1999@yahoo.com>: May 06 07:49AM
I am glad about the response to Oga Moses' engagement with Prof. Nwolise's thought. I agree: the entire lecture ought to be read before such criticism is leveled. I am also surprised that as a social ...more
Okey Iheduru <okeyiheduru@gmail.com>: May 05 10:30PM -0700
Oh, Brother Agozino Biko!
You just went off on a wild chase in your vain attempt to refute Prof.
Ochonu's post, thereby exposing your total ignorance of both Prof.
Obadare's highly acclaimed book ...more
O O <oohay2x@yahoo.com>: May 06 01:11AM -0500
Don't you think that theism and atheism or theism and non-theism or atheism and non-atheism are not inconsistent with "faith" (as long as one does not assume faith as synonymous with morality)? ...more
Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju <toyin.adepoju@gmail.com>: May 06 08:08AM +0100
can we please have the complete lecture so as to understand the context in
which these assertions about witchcraft were made?
prof falola- is it not vital to distinguish between analytical ...more
Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju <toyin.adepoju@gmail.com>: May 06 08:23AM +0100
if this is the lecture
Is physical security alone enough for the survival, progress and happiness
of man? : an inaugural lecture delivered at the University of Ibadan on
Thursday, 20 February, 2014 ...more
"Chidi Anthony Opara, FIIM" <chidi.opara@gmail.com>: May 06 01:07AM -0700
My wife attends the "Sacred Order of Cherubim and Seraphim" church. In one of their Church services, one of the prophets told her that her husband has "matched poison" and recommended spiritual ...more
OLAYINKA AGBETUYI <yagbetuyi@hotmail.com>: May 06 10:32AM
Biko.
As Moses maintains OBC (Nwolise) overstepped the boundaries this time. I have been familiar with OBCs work for about four decades now from when I taught Adult Education courses at the ...more
OLAYINKA AGBETUYI <yagbetuyi@hotmail.com>: May 06 10:55AM
TF.
I will be quite convinced if Moses can come to share with forum the occurrence of inexplicable broken legs for which INC can claim responsibility but I know no such thing will happen.
...more
Moses Ebe Ochonu <meochonu@gmail.com>: May 06 06:54AM -0500
With all due respect, Adeshina, the Comaroffs' advice has to do with
Africanist scholars being attuned to non-rational (to the Western eye),
non-tangible, and supernatural realms in which Africans ...more
Moses Ebe Ochonu <meochonu@gmail.com>: May 06 06:27AM -0500
*"Prof falola- is it not vital to distinguish between analytical
presentation of subjects, which may be understood as the core of academic
work and uncritical declarations of belief, which is the ...more
Moses Ebe Ochonu <meochonu@gmail.com>: May 06 06:17AM -0500
And, by the way, yes, a "fundamentalist Christian" can win the Nobel Prize
in Medicine but certainly not by advancing his religious beliefs as his
oeuvre. Yes, we need an epistemology that engages ...more
Toyin Falola <toyinfalola@austin.utexas.edu>: May 06 12:12PM
Moses:
This is a wonderful thread, providing ideas that we can all benefit from.
For a moment, let us set aside the beliefs that create horrors and address the most serious issues that drive me to ...more
OLAYINKA AGBETUYI <yagbetuyi@hotmail.com>: May 06 12:03PM
From the excerpts below you demonstrated that OBC does not know where he is going, is confused and has no clear agenda.
His observations about science are in part correct but he has not ...more
Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju <toyin.adepoju@gmail.com>: May 06 12:44PM +0100
beautiful debate.
i see Nimi Wariboko's name has been invoked.
are Wariboko's theology and philosophies not very different from the quote
from Nwolise?
are theology and social ...more
OLAYINKA AGBETUYI <yagbetuyi@hotmail.com>: May 06 12:17PM
I really can't DISAGREE more with your defence of OBC here!
He is simply playing to the gallery of the priests coining it in on the insecurities of Nigerians and trying to fashion how the academia ...more
Moses Ebe Ochonu <meochonu@gmail.com>: May 06 07:23AM -0500
It is actually an insult to mention Wariboko in the same sentence as
Nwolise--an insult to Wariboko, of course. In Wariboko you have a
sophisticated analytical and theoretical mind posing probing ...more
Toyin Falola <toyinfalola@austin.utexas.edu>: May 06 12:21PM
I am beginning to enjoy this debate.
What is "factual"? At Ibadan, my city, and yours, witchcraft is "factual"!! The mission of Christ is "factual". It is the fact of faith, not the fact ...more
Moses Ebe Ochonu <meochonu@gmail.com>: May 06 07:39AM -0500
TF,
We get all that. Some of my own family members get scandalized when I tell
them that they're too quick to blame the devil/witchcraft and to resort to
prayers for problems that are physical ...more
"Emeagwali, Gloria (History)" <emeagwali@ccsu.edu>: May 06 01:04PM
My concern is not so much about Prof Nwolise but with the logic of my good friend Prof. Ochonu.How can the utterance of one professsor spell doom for the entire academic arena?
I think Nwolise made ...more
Toyin Falola <toyinfalola@austin.utexas.edu>: May 06 12:57PM
Moses:
The most productive argument will be to assume that many won't disconnect! Society and people do not just shift. Something must first shift before they respond. Thus, we have to work out a ...more
Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju <toyin.adepoju@gmail.com>: May 06 03:44PM +0100
Witchcraft
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witchcraft#Contemporary_witchcraft> is a
recognized religion in the West, one of the fastest growing perhaps.
There is a lot of overlap between modern ...more
Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju <toyin.adepoju@gmail.com>: May 06 03:46PM +0100
EDITED
Witchcraft
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witchcraft#Contemporary_witchcraft> is a
recognized religion in the West, one of the fastest growing perhaps.
There is a lot of overlap between ...more
"Harrow, Kenneth" <harrow@msu.edu>: May 06 04:04PM
i am mildly interested in this topic, and feel the framing is everything. toyin does a good job below in making an effort to enable those who wish to engage the occult seriously find a way to do so. ...more
Chielozona Eze <chieloz@gmail.com>: May 06 10:58AM -0500
It is interesting that the champions of "African science" would rely on
metaphors from Western science to demonstrate the validity of African
witchcraft. Dutch anthropologist Peter Geschiere ...more
Biko Agozino <bikozino@yahoo.com>: May 06 05:35PM
Okey Bros,
You wrote: "The Professor is also propagating this same "theory" among the dozens of PhD students he's supervising all over the country. In addition to the nine PhDs he has supervised ...more
Toyin Falola <toyinfalola@austin.utexas.edu>: May 06 06:03PM
My Eze:
Please no blood birth, as you mentioned to close this elegant piece of yours. The continent has seen enough wars, and arguments about older beliefs in relation to the modern academy should ...more
"Chidi Anthony Opara, FIIM" <chidi.opara@gmail.com>: May 06 01:04PM -0700
Is it allowed to offer prayers of thanks to God after successful academic outings and to attribute the success to the mercy of God?
CAO.
...more
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OLAYINKA AGBETUYI <yagbetuyi@hotmail.com>: May 06 11:30AM
Thank you for this update. I want to draw your attention to the fact I quried how the money promised is to be disbursed and that unless I'm convinced it goes towards resettlement and it's utilization ...more
Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju <toyin.adepoju@gmail.com>: May 06 02:32PM +0100
Olayinka has repeatedly invoked GEJ's name as justification for the logic
of the Buhari govt's offer of 100b to the right wing Fulani terrorist group
MACBAN/Miyetti Allah, alleging that initiative ...more
Moses Ebe Ochonu <meochonu@gmail.com>: May 06 07:28AM -0500
Why I'm no longer talking to Nigerians about race.
BYPanashe Chigumadzi <https://africasacountry.com/author/panashe-chigumadzi>
On writers, empathy and (black) solidarity politics.
...more
"Chidi Anthony Opara, FIIM" <chidi.opara@gmail.com>: May 06 09:51AM +0100
They blaze the land again.
The children of Abraham
Blaze the land again.
The land they call
Their father's land
They blaze again.
(c)Chidi Anthony Opara
#2019Poeticthoughts
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Obododimma Oha <obodooha@gmail.com>: May 06 01:59AM +0100
I hope you had a delightful weekend. I am starting your week with this
piece, "Iche Eme Ka Ugo." I borrowed that title from the chant I once
heard from the lips of the Nne Mmuo (mother spirit) of ...more
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with *bank of America*
and The owner of Saad Hospital and Schools
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