Wednesday, September 4, 2019

Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Perspectives on Anti-Nigerian Ethnic Cleansing in South Africa : South Africans and Nigerians Debate

If Nigerian business men and women are to help their own South Africans bearing in mind decades of the trauma of oppression by the white minority, is it drugs that they should selling to them? 
By the way don't we know that by selling drugs to them, they will someday turn around to fight the drug traders and their agents? The drug addicts are not normal people and they canot be morally held responsible. 

I think investment in education among others should be the type of business they need most.  I mean human capital development. 

Finally, we need to avoid things that could make them to hate us. For instance, ostentatious lifestyles. We should respect their cultural values and live according to the laws of the land. 
Prof. Segun Ogungbemi. 



On Wed, Sep 4, 2019, 7:56 AM Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju <toyin.adepoju@gmail.com> wrote:

I have lived in south Africa... In fact i left in 2014. South Africa is called the rainbow nation because u find all the colours in south Africa. Blacks, Whites, Indians, Chinese, name it... And that is why RSA is today the most developed country in Africa not because of South Africans but Because of the foreigners.

South African Youths Especially the boys (itá boys) refused to go to school or have other engagements. They dont play with Alchohol and Weed, i mean Mixed weed, the one the call "Yahupeh" If u come to pretoria Central at night u would be amazed with what u would see. U would see so many people sleeping by road side, with the blankets, lined up in the cold winter because they cant afford house rent, these are south African indigenes.

These itá boys are complaining that Foreigners has taken their jobs from them meanwhile Nigerians and other Foreigners are actually the owners of most firms in south Africa and they Employ few South Africans who are reasonable, likewise other Firms own by South African Citizens even their Government.
How can u employ a drunk and a drug addict?

I know they also accuse Nigerians for so many things, most of which are false... I know what the major problem is, these South Africans (The black ones) Are so Lazy, The White south Africans and Foreigners though many are suffering but atleast can afford to rent a bed space and feed unlike itá boys. So many Nigerians especially those who came earlier are well established, living good, driving cars and south African Women are falling for them and these are driving South African Men crazy snd to worsen it, most of them are 30seconds men, they climb women the same way Cock Climbs the Mother Hen�, So their women are abandoning them to Embrace Nigerians.

How can u satisfy a woman when u have already destroyed ur system with Yahupeh? 
Stop killing ur Black brothers.
Stand up and work, reclaim the legacy of Shaka Zulu and Nelson Mandela. 
#Stop_Xenophobia_now


Selection from  Responses to the Post 


Slightly edited for 

continuity


    One Set of 

Responses Consisting of a Debate Between a South African and Nigerians


Owen Ngomane
 This is no longer South African country. Population foreigners are more than us and they don't bring good things for our country. They destroy South Africa. 

 

They own businesses here in South Africa but you can't find a South African owning a spaza shop in china,Nigeria etc. They want to take over our country and businesses we are like passengers in a bus. 

 

 MTN [ South African company in Nigeria]  it's a legal company and it helps people. We don't have drugs company you built drug lab here in South Africa that is why you must thrown out in our country. Drugs kills South Africans what do you expect? You want me to be quiet? Ngazohlanya.  

 

 Emeka Jude Obiora Owen Ngomane you're just one of the junkies we're talking about. Who destroyed your country. What if we say SA companies like mtn, shoprite and dstv have destroyed our indigenous companies??? What if we retaliate?? Fu..king prick

 

Ogubie Ben Chinotex Owen Ngomane is there any law that forbid a South African to own a company or business firm in Nigeria and any part of the world? Sit up bro, you can own anything in any country if you have the cash or brain so tell your SA brother to sit up and create jobs and be productive and stop hating on Nigerians because we are just born hustlers not just in your country but everywhere in the world.  

 

Some firms in Nigeria are owned by SA Stambic IBTC bank, ShopRite,MTN Nigeria and hosts of others..we don't attach them rather we patronize them and also create our own too,SA guys should stop behaving myopically and lean from average Nigerian guys on the street.  

 

Are Nigerians forcing SA indigenous people to do drugs? They're patronizing it because they love it,if they refuse to take it Nigerians will still locate other businesses around you which you guys are blind to see, they are not doing only drug business in SA they have thousands of legal businesses in SA, people doing drug business are doing so because SA indigens are buying it big time...stop the hate and focus your energy on how to better your life and that of your countrymen.  

 

Emeka Jude Obiora Owen Ngomane when there's a demand for the drugs what do u do as a business man selling drugs? You supply. If there is no demand, there would be no supply. And nobody will buy your drugs. You people are a pack of lazy junkies. Instead of you people to mandate companies like mtn to give back to the society, you're busy attacking us??? Do you know mtn can provide accommodation for every single south African with a pinch of the money there's making from us here.  

 

Emeka Jude Obiora Ogubie Ben Chinotex he doesn't have an idea, do you know how much mtn moves out of this country??? Billions of dollars without paying appropriate taxes. The funny thing is that the company does not even invest in Nigeria. They don't have a single building in Nigeria, all is rent.  

 

Stanley Emeka Ndukaku Owen Ngomane after killing the foreigners... You gonna turn against the Xhosa, after dealing with them you turn to the Ndebele and after that you turn to the Zulu... Maybe after that the Africaans. The chain continues until you all are done.

Eish wena... Too much of that pap and beef has really messed up your brains wena!  



    Another  Set of 

Responses Consisting of a Debate Between Another  South African and Nigerians

Marylee Lala Moagi Njoku Chibueze Njoku firstly i personally hate the idea of my fellow brothers and sisters from here in South Africa attacking any foreign nationals after all we are one nation. 

"Not all of us South Africans are hating foreigners" I hoped that instead of throwing a live snake at each other and calling South Africans all sorts of names (have been reading comments) you guys that site will be helping us to transport and save lives of the innocent.

In ur statement u mention that " I know they also accuse Nigerians for so many things, most of which are false" meaning that u also know they are those that are true. Ooh!! By the way currently the reason for the Xenophobic attacks is not on job's. The reason for the attacks now is that a taxi driver was shot by a guy known to be a drug Lord around Pretoria(Nigerian guy) 

Why can't we find ways of bringing those people who sell drugs both South Africans and Nigerians down in both countries rather than having them dividing nations that have had a stable relationship during the 90s
  

 

Njoku Chibueze Njoku Marylee Lala Moagi u know i respect u so much, but come to think of it... With what u just wrote now, how did it concern innocent shop owners? 

 

 Marylee Lala Moagi You personally know from ur stay this site how taxi drivers go about on strikes ,image like now when one of them is being killed. The killing of the guy by a Nigeria made them say don't want "Any" foreigners anymore in the country.


I don't know how can I send you a record of the suspect talking on how he will continue to destroy the country and use all the ladies. (Currently the record is going viral in my country and it's causing more havoc)

 

Sonia Wachijem Marylee Lala Moagi I don't know if you guys are actually watching the videos of how they born people alive because a taxi driver was killed please my dear that's not the reason 

 

  Marylee Lala Moagi Guys I have been disturbed the whole night because of such videos. .they even burnt a child in a shack house (Zimbabwean)

This xenophobic attacks are not happening in the province(State) i stay in. .if u guys know people around Pretoria/Johannesburg/KwaZulu-Natal please tell them to come in Limpopo for their safety...
 

 


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