Baba Kadiri,
In this Christmas season of peace on earth and goodwill to all men, why should you be defending the indefensible? He who feels it knows. Have a heart. This Fulani Herdsmen crisis has been going on for far too long. Really. People are dying, they are killing people, occupying other people's farms, private property, illegally grazing their cattle on other people's vegetables and it seems that, so far, all you have done in protest is to quote your "dear sister Gloria" about some alleged "circumlocution"? Isn't that sophistry? Isn't that enough reason to suspect that you are being either rewarded or recompensed for your consistent defence of Fulani Herdsmen atrocities each and every time such events are reported or suspected?
Sitting over there in Ösmo, can you verify for us whether or not it was as a result of some fake news music, that photographs were taken of the Ekiti people demonstrating with their placards?
If they are no longer there, it means that they must have withdrawn from the area. They have probably left their red flag/rag behind as a sign that they will be returning (like Buzz Aldrin planting the flag of The United States of America on the moon)
What are you going to say if or when they (the herders, invaders) return?
How can we both read what's quoted in bold black letters and arrive at such different understanding? You have to take these complaints which you yourself posted, seriously and sitting in safety, over there in Ösmo you ought not dismiss our Ekiti peoples troubles as fairy tales :
"The protesters, comprising old and young men and women, said the farmlands destroyed belonged to 70 farmers.
They alleged that one Emmanuel Ilori had been killed by suspected herders while the Benue farmers in the town had been chased away.
The Onikare of Orin Ekiti, Bamidele Fasuyi, while speaking with journalists on the matter on Wednesday, had alleged that the herders had occupied and destroyed crops planted on the abandoned 2500 acres of land at Orin farm settlement.
"What they wanted is to invade our land and chase us away. They even killed one of our able bodied men this year," the monarch had complained.
"They are imposing some curfew in this town, because our youths can't go to farm freely and government has not been doing something. Several hectares of land had been destroyed. They used to operate at night with AK 47 rifle.
"Over 70 farmers were affected from our records. Crops worth 50 million have been ravaged . They ate up their products like Cocoayam, yam, cassava and others and made them to incur debts.
"We appeal to government to use the 2500 acres of land for farming. The state and federal government as well as private bodies should come to our aid."
A youth leader, Omotoso Kayode, alleged that the suspected herders had hoisted a flag at the farm settlement, where they warned the farmers to keep off or face death.
"They wrote 'keep off' with a picture of a cattle rearer on the flag. This is a serious threat. The police, NSCDC and soldiers removed the flag last year, but they had hoisted another one," said Mr Kayode.
"We used to do night guard to ward off attack, because the police had found it difficult to arrest them. Our graduates who have no jobs were going into farming, but they are suffering losses because of destruction by cows.
"They must vacate the place. Governor Kayode Fayemi must relocate them. From our findings, they used to enter into this place from neighbouring towns like Isan, Ayede, and Ido and we are suspecting conspiracy .There may be famine in the land with the way things are going.
"We are not compromising our stand on this relocation. Chief Obafemi Awolowo-led government in the old Western region acquired the land in 1958 for arable farming and not for ranching."
A group known as Save the Nation Movement (STNM) in a statement on Thursday, accused Mr Fayemi of keeping quiet over the attacks because of his alleged vice presidential ambition in 2023.
In a statement issued in Abuja by its National Secretary, Stevens Chilaka, the STNM said Governor Fayemi was only living up to his pre-election agreement of ceding land in Ekiti State to herdsmen so as to remain "a good and willing boy" to the "presidency cabal" towards the 2023 presidential election.
"Today, Fayemi's silence on the take-over of lands in Orin-Ekiti by Fulani herdsmen and other atrocities being committed by them across the State has lend credence to claim by the PDP," the group said.
The group recalled that in February this year, the people of Ayegbaju Ekiti in Oye Local Government Area of Ekiti State had to stage a violent protest over alleged killing of a farmer, Elijah Ogor, by suspected herdsmen.
Mr Ogor, who was in his 30s, hailed from Benue but was residing in Ekiti, where he was engaged in farming.
The group also recalled that in April this year, suspected herders killed two persons and injured three others while many were sent packing from their residences in Iyemero-Ekiti, Ikole Local Government Area of Ekiti State.
"In June this year suspected herdsmen machete a hunter, Emmanuel
Ilori, to death in Orin Ekiti. He was killed at midnight while hunting
games. The tragedy happened barely 24 hours after a lady was murdered
in Ise Ekiti," said the group.
"Adeniyi Ajayi, who was in the bush when Ilori was killed had explained
that they met the herdsmen numbering about 30 in an abandoned piggery
in the town and when they attempted to inquire what they were doing in
the farm, the herdsmen opened fire on them and that resulted in the
death of Mr Ilori.
"In all these, Governor Fayemi has done nothing, ostensibly because he
does not want to offend the powers that be so as not to jeopardise his
ambition to either be President or Vice Presidential candidate of the All Progressives Congress, APC, in 2023."
On Sunday, 22 December 2019 08:14:38 UTC+1, ogunlakaiye wrote:
Rabbi Hamelberg, You muddle-up issues allot which once caused our dear sister, Gloria, to remark on your circumlocutory. The more you dance away from the center of music, the more your dancing steps are disaccord with the music. Nobody has been able to show me Fulani herdsmen and their cattle in the occupied landmass of 8 square kilometres in Orin-Ekiti
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/regional/ssouth-west/ 369200-ekiti-govt-speaks-on- alleged-herdsmen-take-over-of- community.html
Excerpt from the link is as follows : Members of the security team went to Orin, first thing this morning, they went to the allegedly annexed part of the town which is deep into the bush, now what they are calling a flag was a red rag that was hanging off the branch of one shrub and now they said they wrote keep (off or face death), but I don't see anything like that. It was not a flag, it was a rag. If somebody is going to annex your territory, it would be a proper flag with an insignia,there was nothing like that there. As of now, the rag was removed from the bush and that is that. What of the telltale signs that animals had invaded the place in their droppings. It is either going to be fresh or dried. Dried means they have been there and they have left. Fresh means they are still within the vicinity. There was neither there. ...//... What we can assure every Ekiti citizen at this time is, there is no security threat. The state is safe and we don't have any threat of that nature. So, as you are dancing to the rythm of fake news please don't break your waist o!!S. Kadiri
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Ämne: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Herdsmen Hoist Flag In Orin-Ekiti, Near Fayemi's Hometown [ Terrorism by Right Wing Fulani in Nigeria]--Point of correction.
According to Baba Kadiri, "Nowhere in the report was Fulani mentioned but Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju in his wet dream…"
In actual fact, Fulani is mentioned in the article, here:
" The protesters, comprising old and young men and women, chanted derisive songs against the invaders with placards bearing their thoughts and agitations including 'What is our sin?'; 'Enough is Enough'; 'Save Orin Ekiti from herdsmen invasion'; 'We are tired of molestation by herdsmen'; 'Government must relocate Fulani Herdsmen', among others."
One last little question to Baba Kadiri: What was the cumulative impact on you when you read the following words in the first half of the brief report:
"Some suspected herdsmen have reportedly taken over some areas covering about 8km in Orin-Ekiti, Ido/Osi local government area of Ekiti State near Governor Kayode Fayemi's hometown, Isan-Ekiti "
"the herders hoisted a red flag at the 'annexed' farmlands where they warned farmers to keep off or face death."
"the herders occupied and destroyed crops planted on the abandoned 2500 acres of land at Orin Farm settlement."
"The protesters, comprising old and young men and women, chanted derisive songs against the invaders with placards bearing their thoughts and agitations including 'What is our sin?'; 'Enough is Enough'; 'Save Orin Ekiti from herdsmen invasion'; 'We are tired of molestation by herdsmen'; 'Government must relocate Fulani Herdsmen', among others."
"Chief Bamidele Fasuyi, alleged one Emmanuel Ilori had been allegedly killed by suspected herders while the Tiv people farming in the town were chased away."
"He regretted that the suspected herdsmen had destroyed crops worth over N50million belonging to 70 farmers."
As you know full well, the reporter Rasaq Ibrahim is a very cautious man; he does not want to bear false witness against his neighbour and, since in this case the invaders, molesters, herders have not shown their ID cards or their ethnic insignia or any other evidence ( DNA, blood samples, mucous, spittle etc ) to certify that they are or were indeed Fulani, like Sherlock Holmes, he plays it safe by up to this point, in spite of all the suggestive evidence, still reporting the trademark invaders as " suspected " Fulani herdsmen. Or do you Baba Kadiri think that they could have been Hausa herdsmen? Yoruba Herdsmen? Igbo herdsmen or (God forbid) Kalabari herdsmen? Or indeed some Edo brethren impersonating Fulani herdsmen?
So, Baba Kadiri, who do you think the invaders are, and where do you think they come from? Mars Jupiter of Saturn? Or maybe, just nearby Ghana, or even closer, the invaders are some herdsmen neighbours from Burkina Faso or Benin?
The rule of thumb is If looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it's a duck
It's known as the duck test
Needless to say, if it looks like a Nazi, walks like a Nazi and quacks like a Nazi, then it is a Nazi,
Never mind the tribe, ethnicity or nationality…
On Friday, 20 December 2019 04:16:27 UTC+1, ogunlakaiye wrote:The other time when I deployed the words, stupidity quotient (SQ) to rate the illogicality of a certain pronouncement on this forum, Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju smartly, but not cleverly, erased the word quotient and uplifted only stupidity to make it look as if I was being abusive. Every human being has a degree of stupidity quotient in him or her but unlike IQ, the lower the rate of SQ, the better for the person and his/her neighbour. The report written by one Rasaq Ibrahim from Ado Ekiti exhibits highest rate of SQ that, even if the Nation's newspaper published it for sensational and commercial reasons, it ought not to be published on a forum where people who do not regard the human head only as a hat-shelf but as a thinking faculty. Consider the following assertions.
Some suspected herdsmen have reportedly taken over some areas covering about 8km in Orin-Ekiti, Ido/Osi local government area of Ekiti near Governor Kayode Fayemi's hometown, Isan-Ekiti -Reporter, Rasaq Ibrahim. If herdsmen had actually taken over the said land area, they would physically be identified in the occupied land area. As reported by Rasaq Ibrahim, it would appear as if the land occupiers in Orin-Ekiti are (ghosts) invincible) herdsmen which is why they are only only suspected as herdsmen. The reporter stated that the areas taken over in Orin-Ekiti by the invincible herdsmen cover about 8 kilometres. Land area is always measured in square metres or kilometres. If we assume that the reporters intention was to say that 8 square kilometres land area was forcibly occupied by herdsmen in Orin-Ekiti, then, we need to know the numerical strength of alien forces needed to accomplish the annexation. Only a person with a very high rate of stupidity quotient will believe that some ghost-herdsmen are capable of occupying 8 square kilometres of land at Orin-Ekiti.
…. the herders hoisted a red flag at the 'annexed farmlands' where they warned farmers to keep off or face death - Rasaq Ibrahim. A picture of a red rag hanging on top of a branch of a wild-growing tree was shown but no single herder was present and the warning notice to farmers to keep off or face death was nowhere to be seen.
Residents told journalist on Wednesday, during a protest, that the herders occupied and destroyed crops planted on the abandoned 2,500 acres of land at Orin Farm Settlement - Nation's Reporter.The Orin Farm Settlement was created by the Western Region government of yesteryears and inherited by the present day Ekiti State government. If the land, about 2,500 acres had been abandoned, it still remains the property of Ekiti State government and no one has the right to occupy it without the approval of the government. No crops could have been planted on the abandoned Orin Farm Settlement for the occupying ghost-herders to destroy.
Whenever Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju hears the word *herdsmen* he gets wet dream with Fulani people. The report written by Rasaq Ibrahim was captioned by the Natio newspaper as, Herdsmen Hoist Flag in Orin-Ekiti, Near Fayemi's Hometown.
Nowhere in the report was Fulani mentioned but Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju in his wet dream added the following to the headline without the consent of the author of the article or the Nation Newspaper : Terrorism by Right Wing Fulani in Nigeria. That's a fraud.S. Kadiri
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Herdsmen Hoist Flag In Orin-Ekiti, Near Fayemi's Hometown
Some suspected herdsmen have reportedly taken over some areas covering about 8km in Orin-Ekiti, Ido/Osi local government area of Ekiti State near Governor Kayode Fayemi's hometown, Isan-Ekiti..
The Nation gathered that the herders hoisted a red flag at the 'annexed' farmlands where they warned farmers to keep off or face death.
Residents told journalist on Wednesday during a protest that the herders occupied and destroyed crops planted on the abandoned 2500 acres of land at Orin Farm settlement.
The protesters, comprising old and young men and women, chanted derisive songs against the invaders with placards bearing their thoughts and agitations including 'What is our sin?'; 'Enough is Enough'; 'Save Orin Ekiti from herdsmen invasion'; 'We are tired of molestation by herdsmen'; 'Government must relocate Fulani Herdsmen', among others.
While addressing journalists, the Onikare of Orin-Ekiti, Chief Bamidele Fasuyi, alleged one Emmanuel Ilori had been allegedly killed by suspected herders while the Tiv people farming in the town were chased away.
He regretted that the suspected herdsmen, had destroyed crops worth over N50million belonging to 70 farmers.
"What they wanted is to invade our land and chase us away. They even killed one of our able bodied men this year. They are imposing some curfew in this town, because our youths can't go to farm freely and government has not been doing something. Several hectares of land had been destroyed. They used to operate at night with AK 47 rifle.
"Over 70 farmers were affected in our record. Crops worth N50 million have been ravaged . They ate up their products like Coco yam, yam, cassava and others and made them to incur debts.
"We appeal to government to use the 2500 acres of land for farming. The state and federal government as well as private bodies should come to our aid. There were facilities like electricity, buildings and equipment that can aid farming if they want to invest ".
A youth leader, Mr. Omotoso Mathew Kayode, alleged that the suspected herders had hoisted a flag at the farm settlement, where they warned the farmers to keep off or face death.
"They wrote keep off with a picture of a cattle rearer on the flag. This is a serious threat. The police , NSCDC and soldiers removed the flag last year but they had hoisted another one.
"We used to do night guard to ward off attack,because the police had found it difficult to arrest them. Our graduates who have no jobs were going into farming but they are suffering losses because of destruction by cows.
"They must vacate the place. Governor Kayode Fayemi must relocate them. From our findings, they used to enter into this place from neighbouring towns like Isan, Ayede and Ido and we are suspecting conspiracy .There may be famine in the land with the way things are going .
"We are not compromising our stand on this relocation. Chief Obafemi Awolowo-led government in the old Western region acquired the land in 1958 for arable farming and not for cattle ranching".
Omotoso, however, appealed to Fayemi to assist them in getting back their farmland and compensate the farmers.
He further urged the state government to provide adequate security in the community, noting residents could no longer sleep with two eyes closed as they all live in trepidation.
The Oniwaro of Orin, Chief Mathew Oke, said Fayemi should comply with his promise to build a police station in the town and rejuvenate the farm settlement to ward off herdsmen invasion in the area.
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