Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - BANNED MUSIC, No. 25: Stevie Wonder, “It’s Wrong (Apartheid)”

Dear Brother Cornelius,

Thanks for your sobering piece.

I just wanted to let you know that I am not anti-Arab. I am only dispirited about Arabs' ambivalence and racism towards Africa that has trusted and innocently embraced them as political and even spiritual siblings with common problems.

As i have mentioned many times, the pope of Pan-Africanism (the immortal Dr. Kwame Nkrumah) married an Arab. I don't need to point out the equally odious anti-African racism in Israel, USA, Europe, Asia or SAmerica to make the point that I am not targeting only Arabs as the culprits.

Thanks sir for your understanding. We shall overcome!








On Saturday, May 30, 2020, 09:10:48 PM GMT+1, Cornelius Hamelberg <hamelbergcornelius4@gmail.com> wrote:







Brother Julius,



Brother George Floyd is an
American Brother whose ancestors were kidnapped from Africa and brought to
America. If Brother George Floyd had been a Nigerian citizen then we should
expect that the Nigerian Government and some other African governments would
have been putting it straight to Trump and in no uncertain terms. As we all
know, "It is useless for the sheep to pass resolutions in favour of vegetarianism,
while the wolf remains of a different opinion". If Brother George Floyd was
a Citizen of the United States of Africa then our president would be demanding the
extradition of Police Officer Derek Chauvin to be tried like Eichmann
somewhere in Harare,  Pretoria, or Mogadishu
and then summarily executed, his ashes deposited in a watery grave…



 Whoopi Goldberg said
in the Irish Times 25th April 1998, "Quote of the Week",



"I dislike this idea that if you're a black person in America
then you must be called an African-American. I'm not an African. I'm an
American. Just call me black, if you want to call me anything."



 When we consider the vicissitudes
of history, we know that Brother George Floyd, Brother George Jackson, Brother George
Forman and all the other Soul Brothers and Soul Sisters are our own flesh and
blood.



 Ironically, "It is
better to die on your feet than to live on your knees. ", said Emiliano
Zapata



 Dear Malcolm wasn't
mincing words or shooting some crap and big grammar from the side of his mouth when
he said,



"We are Africans, and we happen to be in America. We are
not Americans. We are a people who formerly were Africans who were kidnaped and
brought to America. Our forefathers weren't the Pilgrims. We didn't land on
Plymouth Rock; the rock was landed on us. We were brought here against our
will; we were not brought here to be made citizens. We were not brought here to
enjoy the constitutional gifts that they speak so beautifully about today.
Because we weren't brought here to be made citizens--today, now that we've
become awakened to some degree, and we begin to ask for those things which they
say are supposedly for all Americans, they look upon us with hostility and
unfriendliness." ( Malcolm X :
The ballot or the bullet)



I
Can't Breathe



We
Can't Breathe



God don't like ugly!



So, just for the record, and with full understanding, there's
no reason to expect any apology from me for wholeheartedly endorsing what Joe Biden
said the other day: "If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for
me or Trump, then you aren't black".



I'm sure that he meant to say, "then you're not really
black". As we can all see it's Supremacist colossus Trump's cold attitude towards
racism that's the reason why Babylon is now falling all over him during his
tenure as President. It's now confirmed that he's quick when it comes to saying
to his underlings, "You're-fired", but slow, very slow to react, e.g. when it
concerns the spread of the coronavirus with now over 100, 000 Americans dead
because he is so slow, much slower than the man he loves to taunt as " Sleepy Joe". Between now and the New Year events are going to overtake him, fast. He's already losing his grip. It's now only a matter of time before he will totally lose it and have to say goodbye to the White House, albeit unwillingly, probably sobbing and even refusing to go.  He will be leaving the Oval Office before he can "make America Great Again". He
will be leaving, and when it happens,  in shock and utter disbelief  -  he won't believe it and even then he'll probably
be thinking that it's "fake news" when the fat lady sings, "Bye-bye Donald, you're
the worst president that America has ever had,
but it's all over now and  it's time
for you  to go – and good riddance!"



Brother Julius, there's the definition that you asked me for,
down below:



"Now I know we have great respect



For the sister, and mother
it's even better yet



But there's the joker in the street



Loving one brother and killing the other



When the time comes and we are really free



There'll be no brothers left you see"



Curtis Mayfield: We
people who are darker than blue



 That's who the "We" are




On Thu, 28 May 2020 at 17:24, 'Julius Eto' via USA Africa Dialogue Series <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Dear Cornelius,



Thank you sir for your response(s) and clarifications. However, please take note that we do not want to emphasize Christianity, Islam or any other religion in Pan-Africanism to avoid further division/fissions.



Still on Beijing, please read a piece entitled, "The Chinese are here," by "Abdurafiu" in The Guardian newspaper (Lagos, Nigeria) today where he wrote: "Yes, we want the Chinese, but not as our masters or landlords.We must therefore be on our guard. There must be a firm lease agreement when land is given to foreigners renewable every 10 or 15 years as the case may be depending on the use to which the land is to be put."

















 On Thursday, May 28, 2020, 01:31:18 AM GMT+1, Cornelius Hamelberg <hamelbergcornelius4@gmail.com> wrote:















Brother Julius Eto,







The way things are in the United States today, we cannot say

of Trump, what was said at the funeral oration of General Washington, "A

citizen, first in war, first in peace, and first in the hearts of his

countrymen"







Since Black People in America are catching hell and being

decimated  on a daily basis by  "Racist

Terror"  with the latest documented

evidence of savage racist police brutality - the cold-blooded murder of Brother

George Floyd without even a squeak from Trump, not even the bogus house

negroes will pray  for their forgiveness because,

I'm sure that this is the

kind of mood that all of us are in. Right now.







Merely labelling ARICOM "imperialist"  and your prophecy that "under a united African

military command" the aforementioned " imperialist AFRICOM will die naturally" is

only day-dreaming, even if what you assume is that "The imperialist AFRICOM"

will soon submit to your "united African military command", sort of "naturally".







When you eventually address the presence of China in Africa  - and the Caribbean ( Jamaica has been taken

over completely) you should reconsider/ examine/ re-examine  Mao's most famous idea about what he called

the "Paper

Tiger".  And so, we see the US under

Trump in complete disarray, Trump already brought to his knees, his touted economic

gains in ruins, unemployment on the astronomical rise, his popularity down the

drain, his chances of re-election annihilated by what he refers to as "the invisible

enemy"







 Your rejection of all

of North Africa, and the grounds of your rejection is unacceptable and is

incompatible with the truth because Islam

in Africa – as both religion and ideology is indeed a unifying factor and there

is strong support for this thesis from Edward Wilmot Blyden through El-hajj

Malik el-Shabazz to the latest African Union Summits. We cannot afford to

neglect or underestimate the influence of Islam

as a factor in Pan-Africanism, African unity,  Islam and Islamic identities as an important factor

in international relations, the financial well-being of the continent, you can't

even afford to leave out the contributions of the Arab Development Bank in any

kind of calculation you want to make about the present and the future.







 A conscious person does

not turn a blind eye to where we are now because of ancient slavery, the more

recent history of slavery – The

Jesus of Lubeck, the Middle Passage, Professor

Tony Martin on slavery, racism,  post-colonialism,  Louis

Farrakhan,  islamophobia, the reality

of Israel and the Arabs which you can see immediately in these

maps, the land, and religion issue of  Israel

and the Palestinians, and so on and so forth.







 About you or anyone

else "being groomed for the job", I didn't mean to insult you – I know and have

known honourable people who have been "groomed for the job", some as professors,

others as journalists, opinion-makers, some as sitting presidents...







 Is this meant to be a

funny question, "Please who are the "We" in your assertion,

"We despise the anti-Arab racism and xenophobia that's implicit in what

you say here"?







Please, who do you think we are?







 Dear Julius, please permit

me to stop here for now with the promise that I'll get back to you to tell you

who "we" are and to address all the matters that you have raised in this your

post.







 Sincerely,







 Cornelius









On Wed, 27 May 2020 at 21:49, 'Julius Eto' via USA Africa Dialogue Series <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> wrote:

 Dear Cornelius,



I will address the China question shortly.



The imperialist AFRICOM will die naturally under a united African military command.



On your question, "Don't you want to include North Africa as part of your 'United People'?," my answer is NO because they are anti-black racists and their loyalty is to the Arab world, not Africa.



You insult (libel?) me when you claim/allege: "I can see that you are being groomed for the job, for the time being as a little agent for the views that you are presently expressing, and who knows, in time to come, maybe, as the First President of Africa South of the Sahara?" My adherence to Pan-Africanism is not aimed at becoming "the First President of Africa South of the Sahara."



And may I ask: Are you an Arab agent just because you espouse their worldview? You seem not bothered about the Arab-inspired Trans-Saharan slave trade, the secret black slave trade/trafficking markets in NAfrica (Libya, Mauritania etc), widespread anti-African racism in Arab countries etc.



I do not doubt "that Egypt was and is still part of the African Continent, as are the other Counties of North Africa," but who and where were/are the original inhabitants/owners of these areas/lands (Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, Sudan etc)? Exterminated and the rest enslaved?



Please who are the "We" in your assertion, "We despise the anti-Arab racism and xenophobia that's implicit in what you say here"?



There is no "anti-Arab racism and xenophobia," in what I have written. Provide counter-facts to impeach the facticity of my submissions. Even the Arabs (and you too) know that they do not regard black Africans as their human equals.



Another insult: "you should do your best to avoid playing into the enemy's hands by inadvertently or as you seems to be doing, by deliberately promoting their 'divide and rule' policies." There is nothing to divide since the minority Arabs (and their Berber, Bedouin cousins) who rule NAfrica with an iron hand have already divided Africa with their racist policies in their countries against blacks such as is glaring in Sudan where the terrorist Janjaweed, backed by the Khartoum authorities, plunders, rapes and commits genocide against our people. This was why South Sudan wanted out and became independent, from Arab neocolonialism and enslavement.



I agree with you that "better integration of the North-South partnerships should be most welcome, for the prosperity of the continent – the whole continent," only if your Arab/NAfrican friends genuinely believe in it and eschew racism, a form of tribalism (assabiya) which the Koran and our revolutionary Holy Prophet of Allah frown at. Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) recognised the then cronic (incurable?) Arab tribalism as dividing the Ummah. And you Cornelius know this. In the present case, you are like a black person denying that there is Caucasian racism.



And what do I "have to say" about Algeria for example? A bad example. For example, as i have noted elsewhere, despite all that he did (risks and sacrifices) for the Algerian revolution/independence as its foremost anti-colonial spokesman/diplomat or ambassador, the new nation's racist so-called socialist pan-Arab leaders refused to honour radical black activist intellectual Frantz Fanon. No monument, not in the hall of fame! Little or small wonder that your friends told you "that during the Liberation struggle the Algerian Jews opted to become French citizens instead of Algerians."



Advising me further, you wrote: "If anything, you should be promoting mutual understanding between all people, and not only in Nigeria but also in the rest of Africa where of course, North Africa is predominantly Muslim, just as Northern Nigeria is predominantly Muslim!"



My brother, as a traditional Nkrumahist, i am not espousing Christian Pan-Africanism because there is nothing like that. Pan-Africanism is for all black people---Muslims, Christians, traditionalists, atheists, free thinkers, naturalists etc----although it is strictly not a religious ideology or movement. It's your racist Arab friends and Caucasian supremacists that are trying to divide blacks along ethno-religious lines, not Pan-Africanists who are striving to unite our people on the continent and in the diaspora.



Pan-Africanists have always extended a hand of genuine friendship to Arabs and their cousins in Africa who, like other imperialists like the West, Russia, China, India etc are only eyeing the continent's land and resources. Our High Priest (Dr. Kwame Nkrumah) married an Arab (Egyptian). We have stood by you at the UN, Palestine etc. So we do not hate Arabs, but we detest their racism, opportunism and sponsorship/support, whether alleged or real, of turmoil and terrorism in Africa.



Chinese and Arabs are gradually taking over Africa. The communists (overpopulated Chinese) are buying millions of hectares of land in communities all over Africa as if they have a future project to resettle some of their people on our continent which they have practically enslaved with loans mortgaged with airports, railways, oil and other facilities.

Private sector chiefs, politicians, intellectuals, journalists etc should help check terrorism and neocolonialism/imperialism (expansionism) in Africa.





     On Wednesday, May 27, 2020, 01:07:45 AM GMT+1, Cornelius Hamelberg <hamelbergcornelius4@gmail.com> wrote:







Julius Eto,



There you go again.



Thus far, not a word from you about China or some of the multinationals that own the mines and more or less everything else, the economies of whole nations including puppet governments



When you begin with," Pan-Africanism is more about our collective military security as a united people…" I can see where you're coming from.  Therefore AFRICOM ?



Think a little further into the future. Don't you want to include North Africa as part of your "United People"?



 Check this out:  The Military strength of African countries



I can see that you are being groomed for the job, for the time being as a little agent for the views that you are presently expressing, and who knows, in time to come, maybe, as the First President of Africa South of the Sahara?



If not, then please, kindly take note that there is no room for tribalism and racism in the Africa that optimists envision. Remember (to keep it in your mind and don't forget) that the Prophet Moses was born and bred in Egypt and that Egypt was and is still part of the African Continent, as are the other Counties of North Africa.



We despise the anti-Arab racism and xenophobia that's implicit in what you say here:



"North Africa (probably except Gamal Abdel-Nasser's Egypt) was unremarkable. NAfrica was seized from the original black owners who were largely exterminated and the rest enslaved by invaders and slave traders from the Arabian peninsula. So, it's not a surprise that the Arab racists who see themselves as whites only paid lip-service to the anti-apartheid struggle. How did the Afrikaner-run apartheid enclave get oil supplies? There were (and, it's believed, still are) secret black slave/trafficking markets in NAfrica (Mauritania, Libya etc)… Nasser, the high priest of Pan-Arabism, helped the anti-apartheid struggle to undermine the then Israeli-SAfrican romance and get the black continent's political support on the global stage for his Mideast (especially Palestinian) and world politics. Gaddafi, also a pan-Arabist, was an expansionist who eyed the continent for Arab domination, hoodwinking its leaders to believe that he was one of them. Like Nasser, he saw himself as the authentic leader/voice of the Arab world, leading the charge against Israel over Palestine and, of course, SAfrica over the apartheid regime's closeness to the Jewish state…However, Gaddafi supported the murderous Arab minority Khartoum authorities in their plunder, rape and genocide against the majority black Sudanese population."



 Just as you advocate improving  South Africa – West Africa business relations, so too better integration of the North-South partnerships should be most welcome, for the prosperity of the continent – the whole continent  – and you should do your best to avoid playing into the enemy's hands by inadvertently or  as you seems to be doing,  by deliberately promoting their " divide and rule " policies as if you don't know any better, possibly thinking that there's nothing to learn from history. If anything, you should be promoting mutual understanding between all people, and not only in Nigeria but also in the rest of Africa where of course, North Africa is predominantly Muslim, just as Northern Nigeria is predominantly Muslim!



 We can discuss South Africa as much as you want – but seriously. And what do you have to say about Alegria for example.  My friends tell me that during the Liberation struggle the Algerian Jews opted to become French citizens instead of Algerians.

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On Tue, 26 May 2020 at 20:45, 'Julius Eto' via USA Africa Dialogue Series <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Dear OAA,



 I agree with some of your submissions but reject your assertion that "South Africans need to be employed in equal rates in Ibadan, Oturkpo, Ife, Kano, Enugu, Abakaliki, and Onisha for the policy to be successful. Otherwise crying foul against South Africans is hypocritical."

 First, most SAfricans do not leave their country to other parts of the continent to seek employment except those taken there by their companies like Multichoice. Many other Africans (Ghanaians, Togolese, Chadians, Liberians, Cameroonians, Nigeriens, Malians, Mauritanians etc) are employed in Nigeria, some even holding political and elective offices.

 Second, a unified Africa will be a federation or confederation with autonomous entities but with a common currency, defence, foreign policy. Like in every true federation, you cannot violate the internal laws of a constituent entity if you aren't from there. Can a New Yorker flagrantly violate Californian laws just because he is an American?

 My brother, Pan-Africanism is more about our collective military security as a united people and continental economic integration for rapid development from pooled resources.



















  On Monday, May 25, 2020, 10:59:39 PM GMT+1, OLAYINKA AGBETUYI <yagbetuyi@hotmail.com> wrote:























 I have given my own initial  reaction to post Apartheid realities in South Africa:







 Pan- Africanism needs to run both ways:   South Africans need to be employed in equal rates in Ibadan, Oturkpo, Ife, Kano, Enugu, Abakaliki, and Onisha for the policy to be successful Otherwise crying foul against South Africans is hypocritical.







 'Help me liberate my country' is different from "help me liberate 'our' country".  Yes, pan- Africanism is a political liberationist tool; yes it is just that-political.  We have cited the case of Nigerien Almajerai in Osogbo to buttress our case.  That

  comparison still stands.  Osogbo is not their original abode and if the case is allowed indefinitely control of Osogbo economy will flounder.  There is a limit to what is allowable under ECOWAS protocol and pan- Africanism







 We have seen how fellow Nigerians ( Fulani herdsmen) are being turned away from southwestern and southeastern cities on the basis of cultural differentiation.







  Criticism of South Africans is tantamount to what Yoruba calls ' şore fúni ka lóşo tii' ( exacting perennially profits from a supposedly selfless good turn)







 Let us be real.







 OAA





















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 One of the useful organizational and inspirational tools  in the battle against apartheid was pan-Africanism. I suggest that the editors of the planned text "Xenophobia, Nativism ....."  should solicit a chapter on Pan-Africanism and the struggle against

 apartheid. That chapter may focus on the southern African frontline states and their sacrifices, and  their contributions in military and other means. West and Northern African roles in the  pan- Africanist endeavor should also be reflected on.









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 On May 24, 2020, at 6:37 PM, 'O O' via USA Africa Dialogue Series <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> wrote:















 My most hated word in Afrikaans. Indeed, an original "sin" against an original continent.







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 On May 24, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Toyin Falola <toyinfalola@austin.utexas.edu> wrote:

























 In 1985, the South African government banned Stevie Wonder's song "It's Wrong (Apartheid)" because it explicitly condemned the

  government: "the wretchedness of Satan's wrath / will come to seize you at last / because even he frowns upon the deeds you are doing / and you know deep in your heart / you've no covenant with God / because he would never countenance people abusing."













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