Re -" Rose is a rose is a rose is a rose" and a doctor is not a doctor etc
"If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?"
And the one hand clapping?
Properly, the question is, when is Fulani herdsman not a Fulani herdsman?
When is a Nigerian not a Nigerian?
When is Oluwatoytin not Oluwtoyin?
When is a policeman not a policeman? When he is out of his plain-clothes uniform?
When Mr. President is slipping into his pyjamas, does he think "Mr. President is now going to bed "`?
Each time some violent act is committed by X, if he happens to be a Muslim Robert Spencer will report in his Jihad Watch about a "Muslim" act of terror; if X happens to be an Ogboni-man or a Christian, then terror is not even mentioned in the report. (Trump did not say that the despicable murder of George Floyd was an act of terror, but he wastes no time in labelling protesters as "terrorists" and his son Eric feels good, maybe better, in referring to the protesters as "animals"
Remember this joke (not so funny)
"An elderly Jewish man who served his community as a religious teacher and butcher stood before a German judge who was known for his anti-Semitic views. During all the proceedings he never once called the defendant by his name but referred to him as Mr. Butcher, throughout. When the hearing was over, the judge asked the old man, "Mr. Butcher, do you wish to add anything to your statement?" "Yes Sir", replied the old man, "I would like to emphasize that to humans I'm a teacher and only to beasts am I a butcher."
It's Très Impoli to falsely accuse Nigeria's First lady of "attempted murder" – such a report would come in quite handy for someone like Robert Spencer who wouldn't hesitate to report, "Muslim First Lady of Nigeria" etc in his "Jihad Watch "
Last word: If someone else said half of the things that some people are fond of saying, we would uniformly accuse that person of racism...
Such beautiful reasoning-emphases mine-'Concerning the murder of Pa Fashoranti's daughter last year, I will be very grateful if you can direct me to any link where it was established that the arrested killers were Fulani herdsmen and that the murder was committed while they were on duty as professional herdsmen. Take note that a person is professionally and legally a herdsman only when he is driving and nurturing his herds. One cannot be a herdsman in the absence of cattle (cows).'SalimonuA doctor is not a doctor in the absence of patients being doctoreda teacher is not a teacher in the absence of students being taughta scholar is not a scholar in the absence of scholarly work being conducteda writer is not a writer in the absence of texts they are writingetcsome will argue that all these are learned professions, unlike cattle herdingno.cattle herding is also a profession requiring serious training, with its own protocols and skills. Fulani cattle herding even has its own mythology and its own spirituality, involving an epistemology and a metaphysics, as attested by Germaine Dieterlen's fantastic essay 'Initiation Among the Peul Pastoral Fulani' and the Fulani creation story that begins 'In the beginning there was a huge drop of milk'.A tragedy, that a noble people are so misled by their leaders.Anyway, the syllogistic wisdom from Salimonu was what inspired my comment.A doctor is not a doctor in the absence of patients--On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 16:44, Cornelius Hamelberg <hamelbergcornelius4@gmail.com> wrote:Dear Baba Kadiri,
Again, many thanks!
Whenever a spurious and unverified report goes unchallenged, by acquiescing we are more or less accessories to the crime.
It did strike me as implausible that the sagacious and astute Bola Tinubu should wash any dirty linen in public or reveal some of his innermost thoughts or regrets to just any vagrant, vagabond journalist. Or confide in just anyone - of the ilk that would then make some sensational headlines of that which he did not say. Elementary, dear Watson, Bola Tinubu has not got to the pinnacle of achievement by committing any such elementary indiscretions
If charity begins at home, then the worst-case scenario that I can think of was my Uncle Cyril ( I was fond of him and called him Uncle Cyril) when he was in fact the son of my grandmother's sister, Gertrude.) He was the best criminal lawyer in Sierra Leone, and I remember all too well when he lost his lawyer's license - because it was lots of helter-skelter and many family meetings about it. What happened is that it was another diamond case and Perry Mason style he had forged and doctored a tape recording which he managed to successfully argue and introduce as evidence, "Exhibit A". So, he lost his license, but (crafty old fox) he wheedled and got it back, and not only that, he was eventually appointed Sierra Leone's Foreign Minister
Of course, we have to verify each and every piece of hearsay evidence, if need be by stringent courtroom standards before such "evidence" is admissible as evidence, especially when it comes to the partisan press and some quack, God-forsaken hack journalist or other who is always out on excursions far from the scene of the alleged crime, and far from the truth ( because there is no truth in him) the very reason why he or they don't hesitate to think the worst of those they erroneously think they are better than or superior to ( pride, the unfounded conceit – no grounds for it, envy, avarice, inferiority complex and unbridled ambition) and that's why they only propagate outright inaccuracies, lies, their own insane and inane versions, manufacture stories, invisible, non-existent contacts, their own malicious conjectures and vile opinions as revelations from heaven. Jesus prophesied about some of them with these strong words which none of them can deny: "You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies."
When it comes to murder - we ought not to rule out the murder of other people's reputation otherwise known as character assassination
Sometimes one's guard is down and this is just because we simply don't go around suspecting everyone, since we ourselves are not thieves - and we have enough proverbs that attest to the fact that the thief suspects that everyone else is a thief and the liar believes that everyone else is a liar just like him, he himself.
Having said all of the above, one has to be a little more circumspect about any proposed litmus test that we can apply to so-called " revelations" – in the religious sense, since, apart from Moses in particular and the event at Mt. Sinai that was witnessed by 600, 000 souls and was therefore not a private revelation.
BTW some of the reporters currently stationed in the United States and reporting as if live from Nigeria (through nameless, secret contacts) would have gone one step further and said that these were private revelations from some named or unnamed secret angel or jinni or so-called "contact". Mind you it should not be impossible to be telling you what Ahmad Tejan Kabbah or Ernest Bai Koroma or indeed with absolute accuracy ( not wishful thinking) what, Sir Henry Josiah Lightfoot Boston had for breakfast, on a daily basis, if one put one's mind and other available resources to it.
--On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 at 02:12, Salimonu Kadiri <ogunlakaiye@hotmail.com> wrote:--Where is the evidence, or what is the source of the information, that Bola Tinubu called Buhari ungrateful for not appreciating that he, Tinubu, spent a total of N35 billion to get Buhari elected in 2015 and 2019? The online media, Pointblank News, who first published the news on 25 June 2020, claimed that the statement credited to Tinubu was obtained from a close source to the former APC Chairman, Chief Bisi Akande, to whom Tinubu hade telephoned to express his regret on Buhari. Tinubu has denied ever making such a statement and the onus is now on Pointblank news to produce the audio transcript of the said conversation between Tinubu and Chief Bisi Akande or publish the name of the close source to the latter who magically got to know, not only that it was Tinubu who was talking on the phone to Chief Akande but, what he said to the Chief to prove that their news in this respect is not fake.
Of course, we would not need to border to ask about the source and credibility of the statement attributed to Tinubu if we should abide by the counsel of the German Philosopher, Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche which says, Please don't destroy people's lies and illusions because if you destroy their lies and illusions, they will not be able to live at all." Nowadays, people live on lies and gossips.S. Kadiri
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Ämne: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - I Warned Bola Tinubu That This DayWould ComeThis is another aside. Swedish politics, yes, I can't help but follow it closely, Baba Kadiri too can't help it, because we have no choice, we can't ignore what's going on around us since our fate is so inextricably linked to what happens next.
" We're all boxed in, nowhere to escape", we can't even boast of an alternative such as, " I'm going back to Africa ", and leave - off in a huff – goodbye – see you in hell blind boy - for the simple reason that things are a lot worse in Africa than where some other lucky/ not so lucky Africans are holed up in the United States of America or more precisely, in Atlanta, Georgia where they have a few skyscrapers, no ancestral huts and where a whole lot of my own blood relatives live, my younger brother lived there for a while, migrated from New York to there and left the Savannah after he became a petty millionaire, relocated to somewhere near Brussels.
Nigerian politics? You'd be amazed at how well informed some foreign embassies are, after all, that's why they are there in the first place. To take care of business.
The signifying monkey is not going to put his head in the muddy water or show his hand where the Naija crocodile is feasting. The monkey himself is hungry - monkey, money and honey go together – and this past Ramadan season - it's a miracle that Oga Falola is not also in the dock answering charges similar to what Nigeria's ace journalist Omoyele Sowore the founder of Sahara Reporters is facing , since Oga Falola himself has regaled us with so much revolutionary rhetoric from Bob Marley ( the message is in the music and the medium is the message) to such an extent that everybody knows, even the young puppy whose father was not so young when Marley sang "A hungry man is an angry man".
In 1983 that Marley song was the signature tune of the NPP in Umuahia, Aba, Owerri and Port Harcourt - " Them belly full , but we hungry" - them , the soft-spoken Alhaji Shagari, his VP Alex Ekwueme and the NPN - as for me , if I could I would have voted along with my brethren from Ondo who were in the transport business and resident in Rivers State, voted for the most honest Presidential Candidate of them all, namely Fela Kuti , the leader of Movement of the People who had the Marley motto at the very top of the agenda, that if they won, they would declare a national holiday on which they would "Take away everything and make everybody feel high"…
We are to assume that the sagacious Bola Tinubu is surrounded by many sage advisers, a lot of movers and shakers, that he has a fair share of madmen and specialists around him, hopeful sycophants too , in which case employing an additional adviser like Kperogi whose advice he should have listened to would have been superfluous, maybe too expensive...
Kperogi putting himself centre stage – as an important political actor who " advised Bola Tinubu " is reminiscent of the New Testament account in Acts of the Apostles 19 : 13 - 16, culminating in the punchline, "Jesus I know, and Paul I know about, but who are you?"
My impression at the time of the forging of the grand alliance through which Tinubu helped deliver ballots from the South West, was that there would be inevitable troubles ahead, and that this was a general perception , that when push would come to shove in the next round of struggle as to who will wear the crown after Brer Buhari – the successor , whether the current VP Yemi Osinbajo who did so stunningly well while Brer Buhari was on sick leave, whether it would be him of some other consensus nominee as flag bearer from the West or from the Middle belt or some wise man from the East would not be a walkover or a fait accompli
But , why speculate when Hon. Bola Tinubu has himself commented on his 35 billion Naira investment? One would have thought that all these years and in the remaining years of the Buhari president he must have been and will be reaping some handsome dividends, anyway…
Simaro Lutumba : Radio Trottoir
--On Sun, 28 Jun 2020 at 15:28, OLAYINKA AGBETUYI <yagbetuyi@hotmail.com> wrote:
--I totally agree with you that spending 35 billion Naira on Buhari's re-election does not in any way guarantee a Tinubu presidency if Buhari is not a military dictator who can impose Tinubu on the nation.
Im sure Tinubu will agree with you on that score as well!
OAA
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"All we have heard of speculative stories of Tinubu's personal interest in becoming president is just that: mere speculations" (OAA).
Oh boy, I wish OAA did not go this far. I was already nodding my head in total agreement with his argument on the "afobaje" (kingmakers) as not necessarily culturally instituted to nurse the ambition of becoming the king. I particularly liked the example of Akinloye to support his position and I could not contradict it. But alas, when he made the above statement, he took the wind out of my sail! I was serious when I said I was a novice on Nigeria's politics but one thing I think I know is that it's no secret to most Nigerians that the king-making propensity of the man Tinubu was to pave the way for him becoming the king by all means necessary, including putting the weight of his financial kingdom behind Buhari's presidency. Come on, who spends 35 billion Naira on another king's enthronement in Nigeria without expecting a payback of the whole palace, including the throne and the crown in return? Not even Akinloye! NO, it is more than "mere speculation" that Tinubu's eyes are on 2023, unfortunately even if his vision becomes 20/20, he can't see that ambition materialize. He has money alright; but his proverbial dog does not have brave hunters behind it; it cannot harvest the monkey. Q.E.D!
MOA
--On Saturday, June 27, 2020, 6:08:04 PM EDT, 'Okechukwu Ukaga' via USA Africa Dialogue Series <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> wrote:
--"Buharists and Tinubuists certainly share the same slavish, uncritical, freakish mentality, but wait to see what will happen in 2023 (if Buhari wins a second term) when Buhari disappoints Tinubu by not "handing over" power to him--as he expects Buhari would. You'd be entertained by the fight that would break out between the two idiotic camps that are friends today. Save this somewhere." -Farooq A. Kperogi
I don't believe this prediction will ever come through for a variety of reasons, including the fact that Tinubu is not that stupid. Allowing Tinubists to fight Buhari & co, would be inviting a kind of attention (investigation, prosecution and possible conviction) he would not like. Ask Orji Kalu and others. Tinubu is NOT likely to be the next Nigerian president. That prediction is spot on. But fight with the current president and co? I don't believe that will happen beyond low level noise making. And at that, Tinubu will overtly disassociate himself from any such gara-gara! Save this somewhere too!
OU
On Jun 27, 2020 2:15 AM, "Farooq A. Kperogi" <farooqkperogi@gmail.com> wrote:
--Saturday, June 27, 2020
I Warned Bola Tinubu That This Day Would Come
By Farooq A. Kperogi, Ph.D.Twitter: @farooqkperogi
The political coalition between Muhammadu Buhari's CPC and Bola Tinubu's ACN has all but collapsed. There was nothing even remotely surprising about it. In previous columns, media interviews, and social media updates, I predicted that this would happen.
For example, in my June 23, 2018 column titled "Buhari'sJune 12 Pandering and Naivety of Yoruba Elite," I wrote:
"Buhari may well get a second term with the help of votes from the Southwest. But one thing is as certain as tomorrow's date: he will spectacularly fall out with the Yoruba elite whose support he's bending over backwards to court now. He'd no longer have a need for them after 2019 and might even remember that they betrayed him in 2011.
"These same people would then turn against not just Buhari but the entire North. If we're alive till then, we'd remind them that they are complicit in their own fate. An Italian proverb says, "When a man deceives me once, it is his fault; when twice, it is mine."
In a January 26, 2019 column titled "Bola Tinubu's Costly 2023 Political Gamble," I wrote the following, among other things that have come to pass:
"Tinubu is going into another alliance with Buhari in hopes that Buhari and his supporters will reward him with a presidential ticket in 2023. That's a costly miscalculation for a whole host of reasons.
"I am familiar enough with members of Buhari's inner circle to know that they deeply despise Tinubu. They snigger at his presidential ambition and are amused by his expectation that they would support him. Tinubu himself knows this. That's why I am shocked that he appears irresistibly and dangerously drawn to people who will throw him like he is hot after the February election. Maybe he is gripped by the sort of deathly attraction that causes a moth to embrace a flame.
"During a TV appearance on Television Continental on February 20, 2018, Tinubu's wife, Remi, said Tinubu was "trashed" by Buhari's northern political machine after the 2015 election. People who "trashed" you after an electoral triumph to which you're central will certainly go the whole hog and incinerate or bury you in the aftermath of another victory that will ensure that they will no longer need you.
"Apart from the certain betrayal that will surely come from the Buhari camp in the event that Tinubu helps them to win or rig the 2019 election, a Tinubu presidential candidacy will be beset by a lot of problems. Given the heightened sensitivity of religion in Nigeria now, which is made even more so by Buhari's unexampled, in-your-face bigotry, Tinubu would be required to have a northern Christian as a running mate to earn the support of the south and the Christian north. That would, however, automatically alienate Buhari's northern Muslim supporters. So his ambition is dead before it's even born.
"Most importantly, though, as Tinubu himself knows only too well, a vote for APC in the coming presidential election won't be a vote for Buhari; it would be a vote for an evil, greedy, corrupt, provincial, and reactionary cabal and their minions who are currently perpetrating a stratospheric theft of the nation's resources in ways that would make an angel of Abacha. President Buhari is an insentient human vegetable who is barely aware of his own existence."
In a September 21, 2019 column, titled "Why Bola Tinubu Can Never Be Nigeria's President," I pointed out that "Before the 2019 election, a friend of mine who is close to Abba Kyari confided in me that after the election they would 'deal with Tinubu and his people.' He bragged that by the time they are done with him and his underlings, he would be so damaged that he won't even be an option for the 2023 presidency. It's already starting."
In a December 22, 2019 social media status update titled "Tinubu's Dangerous Dance with the Cabal," I wrote:
"The cabal is toying with Bola Tinubu like a yo-yo—and he is naively, if gingerly, playing along— in readiness for his eventual political incineration by or before 2023. And the cabal is being ruthlessly Machiavellian about it.
"Tinubu has been given a fake promissory note that he'll be APC's presidential torchbearer in 2023. On the strength of this worthless promissory note, they've sought his permission to destroy some of his most trusted foot soldiers.
"With his consent, they've consigned Yemi Osinbajo to symbolic Aso Rock prison. Tinubu endorsed Tunde Fowler's replacement at the FIRS and is in on his impending trial for corruption. He also stamped his imprimatur to Muiz Banire's unceremonious ouster from AMCON. He's giddily approving everything the cabal tells him it wants to do to his "constituents" and foot soldiers.
"He has now fallen out of favor with almost all Southwest governors except his dutiful stooge in Lagos and his nephew in Osun. Of course, he is a bête noire to Afenifere. At this rate, Tinubu would divorce his wife and disown his children if the cabal tells him to do so—just because he's told that he'd be president.
"This is a strategic, Machiavellian demobilization of his base, but one in which he is a willing participant, using the illusory promise of APC presidential nomination. When he is eventually denied the APC presidential slot, he would have no one of political consequence in his natal region to fall back to for counterattack other than his battering rams in the Lagos media.
"Before his eventual political annihilation, he would be thoroughly unpopular in the Southwest. His fate would elicit no mass sympathy from the region when the cabal finally bares its fangs publicly and devours him."
And in a December 8, 2019 interview with The Interview magazine's Azubuike Ishiekwene, I said the following in response to the question, "If you were to make a prediction about the political landscape in 2020, what would it be?"
"I have no—nor do I believe anyone has—oracular powers, but I think 2020 would witness the incipience of the alignment of political forces preparatory to the 2023 election.
"The Buhari/Tinubu alliance would crack more noticeably. The people who prop Buhari in power don't want Tinubu—or anyone outside their primordial constituency—to succeed them. That's my prediction."
What hasn't started to happen yet is the fight I predicted between paid Buhari and Tinubu loyalists on social media. In an October 5, 2018 social media post titled "Contest of Idiocy Between Buharists and Tinubuists," I said, among other things:
"It's no surprise that Buharists and Tinubuists are in a coalition of buffoonery to reelect a lifeless Buhari in 2019. When pigheaded Buhari fanaticism collides with sheepish Tinubu loyalty, it sparks the sort of combustible admixture of idiocy we're seeing today, which disposes otherwise normal people to lend unthinking support to transparently incompetent people for political office. Thankfully, the rank of the Tinubuists is dwindling dramatically.
"Buharists and Tinubuists certainly share the same slavish, uncritical, freakish mentality, but wait to see what will happen in 2023 (if Buhari wins a second term) when Buhari disappoints Tinubu by not "handing over" power to him--as he expects Buhari would. You'd be entertained by the fight that would break out between the two idiotic camps that are friends today. Save this somewhere."
So Tinubu had lots of warning that the fate that has befallen him now was a foregone conclusion. He ignored it and chose instead to legitimize the worst civilian regime in Nigeria's history. He deserves his fate.
Well, the next predictable phase in the unfolding drama is for Tinubu to turn the Lagos news media against the Buhari regime— and for his mindless loyalists to clash with Buharists in a contest of idiocy. That would be an entertaining spectacle to watch.
Farooq A. Kperogi, Ph.D.School of Communication & MediaSocial Science BuildingRoom 5092 MD 2207402 Bartow Avenue
Kennesaw State University
Kennesaw, Georgia, USA 30144
Cell: (+1) 404-573-9697
Personal website: www.farooqkperogi.comTwitter: @farooqkperogiNigeria's Digital Diaspora: Citizen Media, Democracy, and Participation
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