Monday, June 1, 2020

Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - RE: Okafor: In Memory of George Floyd

Mr O 's  question was truly disrespectful of the dead. To  ask this rhetorical question at this sensitive  moment is a sign of callousness. We know that this was  an attempt to trivialize this important moment in American history, Black history and the struggle for civil rights.

 I would like Mr. O O to identify himself. We have a right to know who we are talking to.

Hiding behind a mask of anonymity is an act of cowardice that should not be tolerated. Transparency is an important prerequisite for accountability  in a group like this.

GE


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On Jun 1, 2020, at 5:34 PM, Salimonu Kadiri <ogunlakaiye@hotmail.com> wrote:


​Take note, my dear Rabbi Hamelberg, that every participant in  discussions on this forum always identify self with name before initials. Double zero, 'O O', is an exceptional suspect. If he is not what Frantz Fanon called, Black Skin, White Mask, he must certainly belong to Neo-Third Reich Brown Uniform. His hypothetical question, I think, is meant to provoke otherwise, he could just have informed readers about his personal experience of a Black police officer he knew that murdered an unarmed Black civilian in order to prove his point that the White policeman that choked George Floyd to death did the usual thing the US police used to do irrespective of the colour of the skin of the perpetrator or the victim. It does not make sense for double 'O O,' a probable Black Skin, White Mask and perhaps an inheritor of Third Reich Brown Uniform, to insinuate about if a black police officer could have done to George Floyd what the white police officer did to him or not.
S. Kadiri



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Sisters and Brothers

I just wanna grab your attention

Who be me?

"The voice of one crying in the wilderness: Prepare ye the way of the Lord, Make his paths straight."

No protocols here not for convenience not even conventional big grammar punctuation because I'm angry so unspeakably angry I could shoot him in the knee

I'm beginning like this because once upon a time I remember one Orlando Marville at that time working for UNESCO and marvelling at one of his students at Milton Margai Teachers College by the name of Theodore Dougan having the temerity not pleading guilty and yes actually  having the balls the perspicacity the presence of both mind and good conscience to begin some maiden speech or other with the opening preamble "Gentlemen and Ladies" which at the time my marvellous Senior Brother Marville thought was cool pretty cute maybe even quite revolutionary when his aforementioned student Dougan daring to insist in not reversing  the natural order of sanity/ reality/ i-manity/ humanity not even for politeness sake ( such as hush now child "there are ladies present ") but no holds barred let truth be boldly told and crowed out loud (and clear) considering that according to the natural order of reality Grandpa Adam, of course, came before Grandma Chava Ḥawwa Eva Eve came long before God put Grandpa Adam to sleep and pulled out one of his ribs which later on was fashioned and shaped to become the creation known as Grandma  Chava was created which is at it was in the beginning and should forever be namely respect for Adam the elder therefore the adage age before beauty came into being and nowadays every time I say  or think of "age before beauty" I think of the recent usage and misapplication ( in this forum)  of the word "geriatric"  by one 47-year-old old youth and e.g. Tom Lehrer of National Brotherhood Week fame ( badly needed in the USA today) saying " It is sobering to consider that when Mozart was my age he had already been dead for a year" and I seem to remember that when Steve Biko was assassinated he was only thirty years old 30  Frantz Fanon died at the age of thirty-six 36 Patrice Lumumba was assassinated when he was thirty-six years old 36  Walter Rodney was assassinated at the age of thirty-seven 37 Dr King was assimilated  at the age of thirty-nine 39 Malcolm X was assassinated at the age of thirty-nine 39 all of them cut down in their prime.

Sometimes it has to be expressed in what is poetry

or what looks like poetry but is certainly not poetry

through poetry so as to bypass

censorship the sensitive diplomatic language filter

but assuming that this dumbass

question is coming from some really bitter

old Negro black as my donkey's ass

it's a natural reaction when you think that Steve Bantu Biko didn't

just die it's not as if he was killed by nobody or somebody who didn't

Know what he was doing since the killer was someone who didn't

like Biko and his Black consciousness and because that someone didn't

such a dumb-ass question coming from one of us pisses me off

Respect demanded so please remember Brother Steve Biko died

He was killed it was part of the method in the madness he died

we're pissed off because you are looking for some highfalutin

philosophical rhyme and reason asking such a dumb ass question

I'm not a disciple of Lombroso so is this supposed to be academic

Some smart as dick thing for you guys to discuss and split hairs

"Would black police officer not do to GF what the white police officer did to GF? And why or why not?"

Did Cain kill Abel?

 Soundkilla

For Oluwatoyin : The Knee of Listening

 

 

 

 


On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 at 04:00, Gloria Emeagwali <gloria.emeagwali@gmail.com> wrote:
You must be an agent provocateur.

Are you not the same person who stereotyped Black People not too long ago?

 Sorry I tend to mix up my O's and A's.


GE

> On May 31, 2020, at 7:45 PM, 'O O' via USA Africa Dialogue Series <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Would a black police officer not do to GF what the white police officer did to GF? And why or why not?
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> Work
>> On May 31, 2020, at 3:13 PM, 'Pamela Smith' via USA Africa Dialogue Series <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you for this, Collins.
>> It said it all
>> Endearingly,
>> Endurely.
>>
>> R.I.P.
>> George Floyd
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Toyin Falola
>> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 9:24 AM
>> To: ya <yorubaaffairs@googlegroups.com>; dialogue <USAAfricaDialogue@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Okafor: In Memory of George Floyd
>>
>> In Memory of George Floyd
>>
>> I want to breathe
>> But I cant breathe
>>
>> I could not see his face
>> His knee was on my neck
>> Life was going fast away from my soul
>> I want to breathe
>> But I can't breathe
>>
>> 46yrs ago, I learnt my first word
>> Mama! mama! mama!
>> 25th May 2020,I spoke my last word
>> Mama! mama! mama!
>> And I still pleaded because
>> I want to breathe
>> But I cant breathe
>>
>> My color was black
>> His color was white
>> My crime was black
>> His right was white
>> I still want to breathe
>> But I cant breathe
>>
>> Minneapolis is burning
>> Real Americans are angry
>> The world is shocked in disbelief
>> Because I wanted to breathe
>> But i cant breathe
>> They were four of them
>> Four  messengers of death
>>
>> I saw the face of my wife
>> I felt the smiles of my kids
>> I remembered my friends
>> For their sake
>> I just needed to breathe
>> But I cant breathe
>>
>> I asked for water
>> The pain was getting more
>> My neck hurts
>> My stomach hurts
>> My eyes were closed in agony
>> My offence again?
>> My color was black
>> His color was white
>>
>> I have paid the price
>> Price of being black
>> Cry no more Minneapolis
>> I was one of the added numbers
>> My blood on that pavement
>> Will always remember that
>> I wanted to breathe
>> But I had no right to breathe
>>
>> My offence again?
>> My color was black
>> My name George Floyd
>> My crime was black
>> His color was white
>> His name Derek Chauvin
>> His right was white
>> He has the right to breathe
>>
>> I want to breathe
>> I can't breathe!
>> But someday this battle shall
>> Be over.
>> I go in peace but remember
>> 25th May 2020
>> Mama!mama!mama!
>> My last word!
>>
>> -Collins Okafor
>>
>> #ICantBreathe
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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