Tuesday, June 8, 2021

Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Thought For Today

Lord Agbetuyi,

The Ignorance extends well beyond Nigeria's borders. 

The Igbos are very sensitive to criticism. In that regard, they are like the Jews and the Mende of Sierra Leone. If only the Igbos could coin a powerful, all encompassing blanket term like "anti-Semitism" to fit so many occasions, situations, then criticize one of them and they will accuse you of "Igbophilia", and as the feeling of clannishness grows, it gets to the point where they may believe and feel (strongly) that an attack on one (just one) of them is an attack on all of them, some kind of collective self-defence.

They would, if they could, first of all define "Igbophilia" with greater precision - and within a legal framework, make Igbophilia a criminal offence, impose heavy fines for any violations, have the magistrates and high court judges send their critics to long periods in jail for vile Igbophilia.

https://www.gistmania.com/talk/topic,335043.0.html

2017 : Nnamdi Kano on al Jazeera

No joking matter. Just as the Jews & world Jewry suffered the Holocaust, so too the Igbos also feel that they suffered their own holocaust/ genocide in the Biafra War and the feeling of difference and victimhood lingers and persists – without reparations . If we are not careful should the shit begin to hit the fan, once again they could soon be a persecuted minority outside of Igboland proper, especially in the North where the sharp religious differences are now politicized beyond belief. The Buhari Twitter debacle is a clear warning that has been given international publicity that any Biafra insurrection will be hammered – suppressed with an iron fist.

The last time I got to understand how much alive the dream of Biafra is in the hearts of pro- Biafrans was when Chigozie Obioma was in Stockholm on 11th April 2016 to discuss his "The Fishermen" with Nina Solomin at the Kulturhuset. I had an extra ticket to the event which I gave to my Igbo Bro and after the show my Igbo Bro and I went up to the stage to greet him , briefly. On the way to the station, inevitably my Igbo Bro and I discussed Biafra , a theme that had been taken up earlier in Obioma's discussion with Nina Solomin. It got to the point where I said that I didn't want to see any death and destruction, and he got very angry, more or less saying what Professor Falola said a while ago, that "The sacrifice of suffering and the suffering of sacrifice are the ingredients of transformation" - and that I had hurt his feelings deeply, that Biafra must be free!

I say my Igbo Bro – I haven't given his name, for obvious reasons.

Baba Kadiri knows better, but I believe that there is tremendous support for Biafra, among the Swedes that I have met so far in and out of this country ( Sweden) . The only misunderstanding that I'm aware of is that most Swedes - by a general comparisons infinitely better informed than Americans ( US) about almost everything, still get it wrong about Nigeria, believing that on the one hand you have the Igbos and they are the most educated , the most talented, like Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie,& women's rights, feminism etc.,, the Igbos are the most entrepreneurial, the most Christianised people in Nigeria, and that at the same time they are the most oppressed, suppressed, marginalised, victimized and that it is they, the Igbos that have all the oil in Nigeria in their enclave known as Biafra whilst the Muslim North are the bloodthirsty Boko Haram People, the bloodsuckers...

And the Yoruba? They believe that O the Yoruba, they are Art, Sculpture and Culture : Wole Soyinka & King Sunny Ade & the Benin Bronzes, that's what they know or think they know...


On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 at 23:26, OLAYINKA AGBETUYI <yagbetuyi@hotmail.com> wrote:



Oga Cornelius.

People deliberately want to interpret any attack on miscreant Igbo as attack on ALL Igbo as if there is no Igbo in his government.  That means all Igbo are either perfect or all evil.

Its like saying by fighting Boko Haram ( no matter how unsuccessfully)  Buhari is fighting all Northerners of which he is a part simply because he is reported to  have goofed in the past by stating  that an attack on Boko Haram is an attack on the North.


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Correction: Should read :" I still can't understand why he (Brother Buhari) should be censored by the hypocrites, for saying that he wants to break the bones of Boko Haram or anyone else that wants to take up arms against Nigeria, especially as another insurrection, as if history has taught us nothing."


On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 at 02:25, Cornelius Hamelberg <corneliushamelberg@gmail.com> wrote:

I picked up this update from the Facebook page of the person who is the proprietor of the world's best Black Mag: Shola Adenekan: The New Black Magazine ( my opinion ) 

This is not science fiction: Facebook and Twitter are international bodies, are mega social media platforms which are not necessarily governed by Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights which declares:

"Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers."

And of course, that everyone includes Nigeria's President Muhammdu Buhari , who is unfortunately taking a lot of flak just now , and the country is receiving a lot of unhealthy publicity, ironically with much of the sympathy going to the miscreants that President Buhari would like to deal with, in a proper manner. I still understand why he be censored by the hypocrites, for saying that he wants to break the bones of Boko Haram or anyone else that wants to take up arms against Nigeria, especially as another insurrection, as if history has taught us nothing.

Until this later twitter debacle, unarguably, freedom of the press is not foreign to Nigeria - in the olden days there was the example of Dele Giwa. Yes, the olden days, nothing like that now...

But, the way things are going now, should things get worse – continue in the same trajectory, it's unlikely that there will be any peaceful, free and fair elections by 2023. To begin with, if the security situation deteriorates, there will be no alternative but to declare a state of emergency where necessary, and should large areas succumb to lawlessness, wanton banditry, terrorism and anarchy, the powers that be will have no alternative but to declare martial law and to postpone the elections indefinitely...

There are many forces at work, simultaneously, and their main aim is to create the conditions that will topple the current Buhari Administration, first and foremost by making Nigeria "ungovernable", and, if the Buhari Government doesn't do anything about containing the general lawlessness and anarchy by which the rebels want to usurp Government authority, then de facto it would be fait accompli – the legitimate government authority would have been replaced by the bandits, a legitimate, democratically elected government displaced and replaced by banditry. If we're not careful, in Nigeria's Northern hemisphere, Boko Haram's caliphate flag raised over Abuja, in the East, the House of the Rising Sun, another flag will be blowin' in the wind and gathering sympathy and fanatical support for their cause from all corners of Nigeria, the Diaspora and even internationally, whilst in the West ( Western Nigeria) the moment the conflict between the Federal Government and their Security Authorities ( the military?) and what looks like the beginnings of the Southern Governors Confederacy - the moment that begins to escalates on the thorny issue of SECURITY for the South – at that very moment, if the need to keep the country one is not a dream , before it sinks into a nightmare, most importantly of course, the central government would like to secure the economic lifeblood of the nation, namely the oil rich delta and obvert the possibility of a Sea blockade of the North, should push come to shove, long before people like Kalabari Brother Alhaji Mujahid Dokubo-Asari starts getting some funny ideas such as declaring their own sovereignty over the Oil Rich Niger Delta and raising their own flag of secession over all of their oil deposits over there and to hell with the idea that "All the land in Nigeria belongs to the Fulani"

This evening, Baba Kadiri told me that what we are seeing are the symptoms, not the cause/s

"But the enemy I see wears a cloak of decency" - this line and the liens before and after it can't help coming to mind when I read the Great Ojogbon Falola quipping

"Senior Chidi:

You don't want a country!

Jesus Christ died for me!!"

And then there are other brave souls like Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju – either brave or foolhardy, because some people love their country in a foolhardy way, such as when - to hell with personal consequences , someone defiantly issues the following statement , maybe as an act of Civil Courage and self sacrifice: "Calling all Nigerians to Defy Twitter Ban in the Name of Democratic Freedom"

Biko, him no fear God?

But it is not a call to arms, to face the wrath of the Buhari Government; at this stage of defiance it is merely some lame, keyboard jihad to be conducted via the social media, not about actually taking to the streets in their hundreds of thousands calling for regime change - via democratic elections, to elect either a better or a worse set of leaders.

This is already much longer than I intended and so, I should just like to add , in reply to Chidi ,Kenneth, and Oluwatoyin, that in the realm of the living, there are the old, the older, the young ( like my late grandmother nee Maud Young and another dear now late great friend Izzy Young) there are the also the Middle aged, the in-between and most spectacularly in Nigeria we should not lose sight of the facts on the ground with regard to the age distribution of the population, that "half of the population is aged under 19 years." Somebody please tell us what percentage of the population is under 30 and under 40, and under 45 years of age. What's certain is that the unemployed youths, the army of the unemployed will be those who are most likely to be out demonstrating as that singer sang, "You got nothing to lose,to lose, to lose, to lose, to lose" - and what do you think the long-suffering, traumatised, unemployed youths want from their government?

Long way to go! This is where we are going with Sweden right now, the latest proposal from our Prime Minister Stefan Lofven ; https://www.facebook.com/stefanlofven

"Now we are conducting the biggest security reform in the Swedish labor market in modern times. Workers, regardless of their employment form, will have the opportunity for conversion support and study support to change and further educate themselves throughout their working life. At the same time, we strengthen the employment protection for those with unsafe employment.

The state and the social partners are now taking a joint comprehensive grip on both the employment protection and the education policy. This lays a completely new foundation for security, change and lifelong learning in the Swedish labor market. The reforms mean that:

- A new study support is introduced that makes it much easier to educate yourself in the middle of life and represents 80 percent of the salary for the most. The support is aimed at training that strengthens the individual's position in the labor market. For example, you can get support for reading a nurse or reading an educational education to become a professional teacher on the vehicle program. In addition, it will be possible to read most of all vocational college educations, which we know is close to the labor market. -

More will be helped to change when the employment is about to end. A new conversion aid is introduced for employees who are not covered by collective agreements. Whether you are working full-time or part-time – are a fixed-term employee - you will have the opportunity to receive conversion support when the employment is about to cease.

- The employment protection is strengthened for those with precarious jobs. Anyone who works part-time in healthcare is employed via a staffing company at a warehouse or is store assistant in grocery shopping should be entitled to a safe employment. Now there is an end to eternal fixed-term employment. It should no longer be possible to stack precarious employment on each other and the time for a permanent employment from a fixed-term employment is halved. We put a stop to the possibility of lowering working hours from one day to another, so-called planing. The rules of the tour order and conversion time will be followed in the future also when it comes to working hours. And now full-time is written as a norm into the Employment Protection Act (LAS).

As in all negotiations, it is about giving and taking. In this case, the employer has gained greater predictability and flexibility, among other things through increased opportunities for exemptions from the turn order. But overall, this means a balanced change of LAS. And this in a parliamentary position where right-wing proposals have strong support in the parliament for unilateral deterioration for wage earners and weaker union.

With today's message, we make a clear choice of roads. Sweden will continue to compete with competence, security and high conversion ability. Not with low wages."



On Tuesday, 8 June 2021 at 00:47:54 UTC+2 Kenneth Harrow wrote:
dear oaa
your point is well taken. i was really thinking more from my corner in the states about the situation of old people in africa or elsewhere.
i also realize many in the states who survive on minimal income, especially after retirement, means more fragile circumstances.

ken

kenneth harrow

professor emeritus

dept of english

michigan state university

517 803-8839

har...@msu.edu


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This is far from certain.  The older people are more likely to put in better perspective all they have fought for all their years, now being friterred away by gross ineptitude.

The ASUU president  Professor Ogunyemi brought back a poignant reminder that all they fought for in the past which brought better remunerations in the 90s have now been frittered away so that a professor of 20 years standing now earns far less than the remunerations they fought for in the 90s so that such professors now earn just a paltry $1000 a month ( thanks to forced devaluation of the national currency due to the political ineptitude of successive administrations) compared to their diasporan contemporaries, that they have to sit their own university student wards and children who are getting struggle - weary down,  and convince them why they ( the older adults) have to keep up the struggle, while their children are among the students forced to sit at home.

So this demonstrates the older generation may be prone to more struggle because they no longer have much to protect.

Also, I have had to remind my American Black students who do not take their studies seriously that their older adults fought for the rights to be in college which they treat with levity by oerennial class absenteeism.


OAA



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the older people are less likely to rebel bcs they want to protect what they have achieved 

On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 at 10:56, Chidi Anthony Opara, FIIM <chidi...@gmail.com> wrote:
A Nigerian writes from abroad urging rebellion in Nigeria, no problem about that, only that his family is with him abroad. Does that ring a bell as per urging rebellion in Nigeria?

I am not against rebellion, but those urging rebellion should be ready to loose as much as the other participants.

For example, if I am participating in a rebellion with a youngster of early 20s, chances are that such youngster would loose much more than myself.

I do not need further formal education, the youngster does. I am married for 29 years now with grown children, the youngster isn't. I have made appreciable advancement in my careers, the youngster does not even have a career yet.

If both of us are killed or incacerated, who, in practical and realistic manner lost more?

The youngsters can join rebellion, but should be stationed in sectors where consequences are minimal.

-Chidi Anthony Opara (CAO)


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