A very useful query, Professor Abidde (Sabella)! Well, with nimble knowledge from my Legal Negotiations and International Law courses, I may add the following: probably Mainland China can still claim the new place out of intransigence (or arrogance?), especially if the island in the Caribbean or Africa is re-named "Nationalist China"! To be safe, the nomad Taiwanese can cleverly rename the new island either Republic of Formosa or Republic of Taiwan. How about that?
A.B. Assensoh.
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This is implausible and thinking about it may not make sense. But let's try: Say the people and the government of Taiwan move to an island in the Caribbean or somewhere in Africa or Latin America, would China have the right to claim the new land as one of its provinces?
Sabella
Recall that Taiwan started off withthe exiled leaders of the Kuomintang (KMT)fleeing to Taiwan after the victory of the PRCon the mainland.
The Taiwanese government has not
always sought statehood. Many Taiwanesepreferred to be part of Mainland China.I don't know what the figures are right nowand the upcoming December referendum doesnot include a question on independence.
It is true to say, though, that the KMT has oftensupported unification with the mainland whilethe DPP tends to call for independence.The matter is not straightforward.
Trump and Biden decided to jump into thepro- independence camp and support theDPP's current position.
So I would say that the wahala dates to 1949at the birth of Communist China and theevolution of the cold War when the Cold Warbelligerents used the Taiwan - MainlandChina situation for their own political gains.The wahala started when the UN refusedto recognize mainland China, and insteadrecognized Taiwan. This went on for abouttwo decades and is now resurfacingsomewhat.
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There must be a resolution to the Taiwan issue -- just as there must be a resolution to the Palestinian and Western Sahara question. The status quo is not sustainable, and neither should we accept a situation where people are forced to remain or be part of a country they do not want to belong to. Since 1949 Taiwan has met all the requirements of Statehood…what's the problem, what's the wahala?
Sabella
On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 5:30 PM 'Emeagwali, Gloria (History)' via USA Africa Dialogue Series <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> wrote:
--Successive Presidents have conceded that Taiwan is a part ofChina. President Clinton publicly stated that the US does not support thenotion of an independent Taiwan, in discussions with President Zemin.
President Bush 02 did the same and opposed Taiwan's unilateral action.His father, Bush 01, said in 1982: "We have one policy. There is one China."When he became President, he shifted at one point, but seemedto get back to the earlier position.
Recall that Nixon's "ping pong" diplomacy effectively initiatedsupport for the mainland. The Taiwan question has been a thorn in the fleshfor US Presidents but until Trump landed in the White House, the generaltendency since Nixon, was to recognize Taiwan as a province or part of China.
Biden's attempt to follow Trump could lead to the disaster that we thought wehad avoided by kicking Trump out of the White House. The transactionalPresident probably struck some kind of deal.
That often quoted line about no permanent friends or enemies is often adeclaration of opportunism that feeds into the military industrial complex,more often than not.
I hope as you do, that China does not get the opportunity to use itshypersonic missiles.
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Gloria,
My sense is that every POTUS would have answered the question about hypersonic weapons and Taiwan just about the same way that Biden did. What else would he have said, "oh yeah, China can have Taiwan" or US will not develop hypersonic weapons and counters to such weapons.
Biden is POTUS and will first and foremost protect and defend strategic interests of US. China off course will do the same. That is what serious responsible countries do. No permanent enemies, no permanent friends, only permanent interests. The world should hope that none of this will lead to actual military conflict in that region either deliberately or by some miscalculation.
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From the look of things, we would
need the Bible, the Torah, the Quran, the Vedas, Ifa, the Sutras and more, to cope with the fallout from Biden's new militaristic agenda. China will be
protected by Sun Tzu's, The Art of War, apparently.
Seriously, Biden is undergoing
a speedy transformation from dove to hawk. His poll numbers are dropping,
and he probably thinks that war mongering will boost his numbers. It worked for Reagan and Bush 1&2.
Will it work for Biden in the era of Covid19?
Prof. Gloria Emeagwali
On Oct 22, 2021, at 10:43, Cornelius Hamelberg <CorneliusHamelberg@gmail.com> wrote:
On one hand, we have Stephen Hawking and God and on the other hand, we have Gerald L. Schroeder and The Science of God
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On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 23:35, Harrow, Kenneth <harrow@msu.edu> wrote:
toyin,
more and more scientists can talk about the big bang and the nature of matter and energy. the argument for god is that god is the cause for matter and energy to exist.
but that is pointless speculation. why not simply accept what we know about the forces of nature inherent in matter as we can observe them? their origins are not only unknown, but we might as well say were always there.
the rest of it, all the religions of the world, consist of nice stories that comfort people.
that's my view.
i practice the religious services of my religion because they give me pleasure and community, but i have no illusions that they provide any more than what i wrote above, and in fact they rehearse the same mythological stories as other religions.
if you or others feel a divine presence, i am not saying anyone should tell you that your experiences are wrong. but the argument about causality is nonsensical. to say everything has a cause is to say human logic somehow explains a cause which is not known, observed, present in our lives.
in my humble opinion
i'd say we all should have, in everyone's curriculum, hawking's Brief history of time to get the basic grasp of the nature of our world. it is fabulous. not as in fables, but as in human thought.
ken
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Kant seems to have held a similar view only to debunk it later-
''The existence of God is a dogma that it will be foolish to question, considering all the inexplicable creations that must have been put into existence by a powerful creative force.''
Is this view no better than speculation?
its plausible but does that make it factual?
is it possible to find out for a fact that this force exists, as different from one's expectation that it does?
do human beings possess the capacities for gaining such definitive knowledge?
some claim to have gained such knowledge, but are their exploratory methods readily validatable by everyone?
''enquiry about God is fundamental to human nature but is the definitive answer to the question not beyond the scope of experience of most people?", Kant's opening lines in Critique of Pure Reason may be ;paraphrased.
On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 12:46, Chidi Anthony Opara, FIIM <chidi.opara@gmail.com> wrote:
Not all dogmas should be questioned, some dogmas that appear unreasonable can be questioned.
The existence of God is a dogma that it will be foolish to question, considering all the inexplicable creations that must have been put into existence by a powerful creative force.
-Chidi Anthony Opara (CAO)
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