Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: "When You Die, Someone Should Die With You": Perspectives on Accompanied Death by Moses Ochonu and Friends on Facebook in Relation to the January 2022 Burial of the Aku Uka of Wukari

cornelius, why do you call azazel the scapegoat? i thought the goat was sent to him in the wilderness.

on another note, i am skeptical of accounts of child sacrifice, most anywhere. i'd want to see real proof and not speculation before i'd be convinced.

ken

kenneth harrow

professor emeritus

dept of english

michigan state university

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harrow@msu.edu

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Very interesting. For the super-sleuth, the plot thickens; in a non-religious context it would be a or the case of the missing king.

" Because he does not die, there are no undertaker's, coffin or grave, that will make him mortal. He rides majestically on his royal horse to meet his forebears. The young man with him serves as his sheath bearer. But also serve as the proverbial scapegoat, on behalf of the community." ( Pankya and its May Mysteries )

Nor does he, like Jesus, in full view of his disciples ascend bodily to our Father heaven, disappearing beyond the clouds, Gate Gate Para Gate Para Sam Gate Bodhi Swaha.

What does the conclusion of the Heart Sutra have to do with the bodily ascension of Jesus to Haven? It's the kind of question that the uninitiated may well ask, and the kind of question that e.e. answers with the first line of his love poem that begins at this beginning:

somewhere i have never travelled, gladly beyond

" The proverbial scapegoat " is reminiscent of poor old Azazel

no crucifixion

no resurrection

no ascension

the goat merely disappears

into the wilderness

carrying his burden:

all our sins

Azazel the scapegoat

far removed from the lofty dream:

O lamb of God who take away the sins of this world !

I cry

tears hide.

At this stage, you have the right to be intensely worried and even the right to remain silent about the trial of Nnamdi Kanu which started yesterday and narry a word about this very significant event, in this USA- Africa series.

Or is it the silence before the tsunami?

Hopefully, Brother Nnamdi is not another Azazel or the case of another failed Messiah who says "Seek ye first the political kingdom, and all will be added"

"But He, Himself was broken

Long before the sky would open

Forsaken, almost human

He sank beneath your wisdom like a stone"

Cf Your Master

On Wednesday, 19 January 2022 at 05:53:26 UTC+1 chidi...@gmail.com wrote:

"That it is traditional does not make it right"-Barack Obama.

-CAO.

On Tuesday, January 18, 2022, Cornelius Hamelberg <cornelius...@gmail.com> wrote:

First things first ( Africa First!)

Question 1, and in the name of Shalom, I don't want to quarrel with anyone, but just as Adepopju enquired of Professor Gloria in Excelsis Emeagwali : "could i know what motivated your interest in this at this time? " , the this being her posting "Atrocities/war crimes condoned in the Bible", so too I ask Adepoju the same question, in light of his recent altercation with Professor Moses Ochonu: Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju, please, could we know what motivated your interest in posting the transcript of a discussion involving Professor Ochonu, at this time?

And no mention of the ancient Egyptian burial rites ensuring immortality after death? For example there are certain funeral rites for Mende Chiefs in Sierra Leone, that are sensitive and no business of those not directly concerned...

After reading through the transcript of the discussion, I should only like to make the following observations

1. We are to surmise the Almighty is totally against human sacrifice , as evidenced by the Akedah , a ram being substituted for Isaac, at the very last moment.

The idea that God's absolute justice required that His only begotten Son should be sacrificed on the cross in order to save sinful humanity, is still being debated by both Jew and gentile, in websites such as Jews for Judaism and Tovia Singer and mythvision

There's also a necessary distinction to be made between suicide on the one hand – which is forbidden - and martyrdom , such as Kiddush Hashem . But how to characterise what happened at Masada?

It's a very moving picture of the chivalric horse rider who accompanies his liege into the dark forest at the end of the latter's life pilgrimage – hopefully, Tunde Kelani will make a blockbuster movie out of it. In my not so informed imagination, I imagine a parallel with the last scene of King Arthur's farewell as captured by the last verse of Alfred Lord Tennyson's Morte D'Arthur...

I imagine the mysterious & anonymous masked rider accompanying the dearly departed King into the dark forest , and who knows, unrecognised  and unrecognizable reappearing to continue life as before, in the kingdom or elsewhere 

On Tuesday, 18 January 2022 at 17:55:40 UTC+1 Cornelius Hamelberg wrote:

Correction : Should read ; "  Now, isn't it a paradox that the Hindus infiltrated Cremation into the Church of England in Great Britain, as far back as 1918?

On Tuesday, 18 January 2022 at 17:48:20 UTC+1 Cornelius Hamelberg wrote:

 This theme is just too exciting . No holds barred,  I'm looking forward to how the discussion will evolve.

"I believe many people criticize what they don't understand" , opines Brother Professor ( Full Professor) Moses Ochonu. Exactly what I was thinking last night without any reference backing from Kant or any of the greater sceptics - another instance of argumentum ad verecundiam – as in " I am the way, the truth and the light – no man cometh unto the Father except by through me!" (Jesus ) or , " God must be a boogie man " because wizard Charlie Mingus the super good jazz bassman said so, and as for me, I'm in full agreement with Stevie Wonder here singing, " When you believe in things you don't understand , then you suffer : Superstition ain't the way"

Therefore, the saying is "Two Jews, three opinions" attesting to the glory of the Talmud and the Talmudic sages, I daresay ten opinionated, specially educated Nigerians speaking international English and not the exactitudes of Kantian German as the chosen vehicle for their arguments, as in this transcript, and we get a large number, verily, a multitude of attitudes - and thank God that the Hindu practice of Sati has fallen into desuetude , not due to the outright forbidding/ regulated out of existence by what Adepoju would like us to believe are civilising British Colonialists, but due to post-enlightenment and what 21st century futurists looking back deem to be modernity even then, though for very different reasons the Sotah ritual as prescribed in ancient Judaism – for a wife accused of infidelity, has also fallen into desuetude, since – so the rabbis say, the nation had gradually seeped into stages of unholiness thereby rendering the Sotah ritual ineffective.

With trepidation a modernist/ postmodernist and the village schoolteacher Lakunle, himself not that civilised - if we are to go by Kenneth Harrow's harrowing questions raised here, please, only use the word "barbaric" to describe the Sotah in the Torah, at the risk of sounding disdainful and anti-Semitic.

Now, isn't it a paradox that the Hindus infiltrated Creation into the Church of England in Great Britain, as far back as 1918?

Lissen up : " I warned the people of Jamaica and they did not listen".. Buju Banton speaking once more in Deep English ( bad words edited out as much as possible.

On Tuesday, 18 January 2022 at 11:29:13 UTC+1 toyin....@gmail.com wrote:

"When You Die, Someone Should Die With You"
Perspectives on Accompanied Death by Moses Ochonu and Friends on Facebook in
Relation to the January 2022 Burial of the Aku Uka of Wukari


Compiled by Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju with an Introduction,
Background Images and Accompanying Facebook Comments by Various Readers


Accompanied death, the process of a person dying along with a person
already dead, recurs in various civilizations. It emerges in the now
defunct Indian tradition of Sati
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(practice)>, discontinued by the
colonising British, in which a wife burnt herself alive in the process of
her husband's cremation. It has also been visible in a number of various
African civilisations. Wole Soyinka builds his play *Death and the King's
Horseman* around that custom as it was demonstrated in 1946 in the Yoruba
city of Oyo. The sections of the play centred on the attempted ritual
suicide of the king's horseman who is to follow his lord to the beyond are
among his greatest work. It has been described in African cultures, as also
actualised in the forceful seizure of people to be killed in accompaniment
of a dead ruler, though whether it still continues in some or all of those
cultures, I have not been able to ascertain.

In the case of the Aki Uka of Wukari, in Nigeria, his corpse is seated on a
horse, leaning on the horse rider, who rides with the body into a forest
believed, by one perspective, to a forest wherein is the abode of spirits
where the deceased ruler will achieve his final transition. The spirits,
this view states, may or may not decide to take the horse rider along with
the deceased ruler, whose body is also believed to experience a fate
unknown to any but the spirits and the departed ruler's final companion.

Picture of an earlier example of the final ride of the body of the deceased
Aki Uka of Wukari, with his living companion

Image source: Apajukun Facebook page
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In the post and discussion below, Moses Ochonu and his Facebook friends
discuss the subject in relation to the recent burial, in January 2022, of
the Aku Uka of Wukari.


Moses Ochonu presents this view on what happens in the climatic final
scenes of the ride to the beyond:

''there was no "intentional killing of another human being." The king's
escort goes ALONE into the bush with the king on a horse and, depending on
what the gods decide, would commit ritual sacrificial suicide. In many
cases, the gods spare the escorts. In the current case, the young man was
not only spared but has since returned home to his family.''


Zainab Ali, responding to Ochonu's post on the subject, presents another
perspective on the fate of the ruler's companion:

''historically the forest where the final burial is conducted is dangerous,
wild animals evil spirits, and whatnot. So considering the escort is just
one man, the possibility of something happening to him over there is known
and accepted by him ab initio.
It is that danger that raise the conversation around the uncertainty of his
return, it is never about him being sacrificed.'

Ochonu, a historial, tries to contextualise Ali's contribution:

''Zainab Ali
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thank
you again!!This is very enlightening. You are educating many misinformed
people. I believe many people criticize what they don't understand, and
that there had to be a rational, perfectly logical reason for for the
escort perhaps not returning. Often, with this type of things, the
ritual/sacrificial/suicidal explanation is constructed strategically after
the tradition has already taken root, as a way of consolidating monarchical
power by further mystifying its occupant and putting sacred fear in the
hearts of subjects. I have a similar story from Benin Kingdom.''

A principal disagreement between Ochonu and some of his intercutors is
represented by the following exchange:

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While we all appreciate the excesses of the Pentecostals in painting
anything non-western as barbaric, I must admit that human sacrifice,
whether voluntarily or otherwise is very barbaric.
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It was not barbaric to the people who invented it and at the time that
it was instituted. You can call for its review in view of current moral
standards without calling it barbaric. The folks who came up with it would
have disapproved of many rituals and practices we consider mainstream and
modern, but I doubt they would have been so judgmental as to call those
practices barbaric. It's this type of decontextualized condemnation and
judgmental critique that is problematic.
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I completely disagree. Any cultural practice that leads to the intentional
killing of another human being under any guise is barbaric.
In my culture, they used to bury titled men with some of their slaves.
Also twins were seen as abomination and were killed. Both practices were
barbaric too and had long been stopped.
There are some evidence that Western Europe practised human sacrifice.
That's also barbaric.
All other aspects of Jukun cultural practices may be excellent but that
of human sacrifice is a no no no.
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but
there was no "intentional killing of another human being." The king's
escort goes ALONE into the bush with the king on a horse and, depending on
what the gods decide, would commit ritual sacrificial suicide. In many
cases, the gods spare the escorts. In the current case, the young man was
not only spared but has since returned home to his family.
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- From what I've read, the man alone will ride on the horse with the
corpse of the King to the final resting place deep in the wilderness, where
he is expected to "deliver the king" to the gods and then commit ritual,
sacrificial suicide.
In reality, many of the "sacrificial" companions return home, spared by
the gods. Only a few do not. The idea is that if the gods wish, they could
take the life of the king's living companion during or at the end of the
three day journey deep in the bush."



I first provide the context of their discussion through images and
accompanying commentary from sources familiar with the culture of the
Wukari, from Apajukun <https://www.facebook.com/apajukunreporters>, a
Facebook page dedicated to this culture.


*Context of Discusion : The Burial of the Aku Uka of Warri in Pictures and
Commentary*


* Picture of What May be the Throne of the
Aku Uka *


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* Announcement of Live Streaming of Funeral Rites*


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January 12, 2022
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PUBLIC NOTICE!!
This is to inform the general public that arrangement has been made for
live streaming of the final rite (Pankya) of His Majesty, Dr Shekarau Angyu
Masa-Ibi CON, The AKU UKA.
Those who may not be opportuned to attend can do so virtually on inferno TV
(Facebook and Youtube).




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*A Poetic Celebration of the Aku Uka's Ride to the Beyond with His
Companion*

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Tuesday, January 18, 2022
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THE TRANSMOGRIFICATION & THE TRANSITION OF AKU UKA
He does not belong here alone, he belongs to the gods!
He descended from far beyond.
He was born mortal yet immortal.
His persona is twined betwixt two worlds.
He is an enigma beyond comprehension.
He is a satellite of the gods over the people.
He is a vicar of the gods.
He is the blend of the real & the surreal.
He knows no hate and hates not one.
On his hands is the power to make or stop the rain.
He possesses the power to silence the thunder and forbid the lightning
from striking.
Now, the appointed time beckons & his spirit must transit to NANDO, the
great beyond where he will commune with the gods in the land of the living
dead.
On his left hand, he holds the esoteric grains which he must release for
the survival of the people.
On his right hand, he holds all the natural elements which he must let go
of for his people as he journeys ahead.
But behold, a young hero on a stallion riding along gallantly with pride,
dignity & majesty to the great beyond with the ANDU.
The ground quakes & the multitudes of people shake & tremble at the sight
of the young hero who must not look back until he delivers the new citizen
to the land of the gods.
Prince Beavens Ajiduku (PhD)
A prince from the great Kwararafa Kingdom



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*An Expository Explanation of the Aku Uka's Ride to the Beyond with His
Companion*

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PANKYA AND IT'S MANY MYSTERIES.
The events of yesterday have left people wondering 'what actually took
place?'. For an outsider, even some insiders, there are questions to be
answered.

Firstly, PANKYA is the Jukun transition ceremony for the Aku to the great
beyond. The Aku does not die. He is a 'son' of the gods, the guardian and
protector of his people. His place is between the mortal and the immortal.
The Aku is not venerated or honoured, no, he is WORSHIPPED by his subjects.
He is a priest-king to whom libation is offered every morning. He is not
associated with affairs of mortals like funeral and wedding. He is beyond
emotions and weakness. Thus, he DOES NOT DIE. There will is no 'funeral
rite' for him but the of journeying to NANDO and finally KINDO.

The PANKYA is a mystery. A mystery is what cannot be understood using human
logic. Only those inserted into its cult (cult as in its true meaning and
implications) and 'educated' in its practice can make sense of it.

So, the PANKYA is not just a ceremony or rite, it is a religious rite
performed by cultic priests and worshippers. All others are just onlookers.

Because he does not die, there are no undertaker's, coffin or grave, that
will make him mortal. He rides majestically on his royal horse to meet his
forebears. The young man with him serves as his sheath bearer. But also
serve as the proverbial scapegoat, on behalf of the community.

ABAGA'IDU NASHA'IN has gone to KINDO, his mission accomplished here.
Another will take his place. May his reign last long in peace.

So, in summary, the Jukun culture is deeply religious, steep in mysteries.
Any religion without mysteries is a fable. Thus, the PANKYA MUST BE
UNDERSTOOD within the context of religion, for so is the Jukun world view..
CHIDON KU YII WATASHUMA.
Dankaro Solomon *Further Responses*


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According to Jukun tradition, the transition of the Aku must be followed by
the ritual suicide of the Aku's horseman as well as his wears, because the
horseman's spirit (which is the ATOBE) is essential to helping the Aku's
spirit ascend to the afterlife.
A specific family in the Jukun land has been task with the duty of the
horseman to the Aku when embarking on journey to join his ancestors --
members of that family are trained from childhood to perform such duty
relentlessly when need arises.

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Pls I need understanding of this Jukum people's traditions of burial,
taking the late king to Nando where I understand is like the spirit world
for him to transit to meet this other ancestors. Does it mean that the
horse rider might return or not depending on how lucky the rider is ? And
second question does the late king has a burial site that people can see
since the whole thing now is about taking him to the spirit world? Pls I
need clarity on this to understand better. Thanks
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It's a mystery of this culture, until ur been initiated,u can't
understand the deep things.
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for
emphasis sake, no any official statement regarding the fate(return or not)
of the sheath bearer (horse rider), but from records available to us like
you said he has 50:50 percent chance of survival, either way, return or
not. As for burial site, because all Akus are not buried but transited to
join the ancestors, there's no talk about any burial site. The sheath
bearer takes Aku to Nando and that's all, and whatever happens there is
strictly cultural mystery.
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of
a truth I'm Jukun some things are deep and beyond comprehension....the king
isn't buried z where the horse rather went with him is also something we do
not understand however, we are aware its from puje to bevyi, kuntsa and
Nando.....only those who belongs to that cult understand what is happening
....so we don't have answer to your question sir ...thanks
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exactly
that's what I also want to know
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I don't understand, do u go somewhere and keep him or how.
And who chooses the person that will go drop him.
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Thanks Samuel for the good clarifications.
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so
why are they happy the horse rider is back ?
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