Friday, January 14, 2022

Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Atrocities/war crimes condoned in the Bible

the bible is not a historical record of anything. however, it frames the world in terms of god's rules and laws, etc etc etc'
the killing of witches or sorcerers is really there, along with lots of other terrible rules. that doesn't mean we can read it in terms of historical practices, most of which is lost to the mist of time. by the time we enter into a world with written accounts, what becomes rabbincal judaism, the old laws are often reinterpreted and not carried out, like stoning a son who disobeys his parents,

ken

kenneth harrow

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dept of english

michigan state university

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From: 'Biko Agozino' via USA Africa Dialogue Series <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 6:36 PM
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Atrocities/war crimes condoned in the Bible
 
Have you noticed that there is no mass killing of witches in the Bible? The witch craze of the dark ages took an estimated 9 million lives, mostly women, who were killed in the name of the Father, and of the Son, according to Mary Daly in Gyn/Ecology. 

The Nazis also tried to use religion to rationalize their mass killings of millions in the struggle over which European bourgeois nations would have the largest colonies in Africa. Soyinka, in Of Africa, argues that African religiosity is a better model for humanity because of the absence of religious wars traditionally.

I will destroy your witchcraft and you will no longer cast spells.
I just heard that one of my cousins was lynched in the village this Christmas because her husband who lives in Europe accused her of being the one who caused him to avoid returning home, and who killed one of their children died; her daughter can't find a husband because of her medicine pot. The villagers gathered, paraded her and stoned her to death for allegedly having a list of the names of dead people that she allegedly killed with witchrcaft (could be a list of people she gave gifts to their families to support funeral expenses as is frequently done with the expectation that the gifts would be returned in times of need). 

V.C. Uchendu used to teach us in Calabar that the Igbo believed in Chi to protect them against witches while their neighbors believed more in witch hunting and killing. Does the invention or intrusion of monarchical traditions among the radically republican Igbo help to explain the emergence of hysteria about witchcraft or is the witchcraze more the fault of fundamentalist Christendom and Nollywood narratives?

Biko

On Thursday, 13 January 2022, 13:06:31 GMT-5, Cornelius Hamelberg <corneliushamelberg@gmail.com> wrote:


"could i know what motivated your interest in this at this time?", asks Gatekeeper Adepoju. He wants to know. If it's a healthy curiosity maybe we should oblige him by reminding him that for starters, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob has described Himself as "a Mighty Warrior"

You Oluwatoyin Adepoju, master of hermeneutics, so you think it's fair game to quote passages from the Holy Quran beseeching the Faithful to slaughter the infidels, and that the historic mass slaughter and dispossession of e.g. Palestinians in this century and the last century in the tragic event referred to as the Nakba, is to be understood allegorically or read symbolically. Is that the way you understand the Book of Joshua ? Old man Noah and the Flood? All the Battles recorded in the Bible, I mean the battles you have read about in the Hebrew Bible . The destruction of the first and second Temple? The Crucifixion of Jesus? The Holocaust? The oncoming thermonuclear Armageddon? 


On Wednesday, 12 January 2022 at 05:24:23 UTC+1 ovdepoju wrote:
thanks Gloria.

did you compile this?

could i know what motivated your interest in this at this time?

toyin

On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 at 07:54, 'Emeagwali, Gloria (History)' via USA Africa Dialogue Series <usaafric...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Chapter Killing Event Scriptural
Reference
Biblical
number
Estimate
1
The Flood of Noah
Gen
7:23

2
Abraham's war to rescue Lot
Gen
14:17-19
1000
3
Sodom and Gomorrah
Gen
19:24
2,000
4
Lot's wife
Gen
19:26
1 1
5
Er for being wicked in the sight of the Lord
Gen
38:7
1 1
6
Onan for spilling his seed
Gen
38:10
1 1
7
God's seven year, world-wide famine
Gen
41:25-54
70,000
8
The seventh plague of Egypt: Hail
Ex
9:25
300,000
9
God killed all first born Egyptian children
Ex
12:29-30
500,000
10
God drowned the Egyptian army
Ex
14:8-26
600 5,000
11
Amalekites
Ex
17:13
1,000
12
Who is on the Lord's side?
Ex
32:27-28
3,000 3,000
13
God plagued the people because of Aaron's calf
Ex
32:35
1,000
14
God burns Aaron's sons to death
Lev
10:1-3
2 2
15
A blasphemer is stoned to death
Lev
24:10-23
1 1
16
God burned people to death for complaining
Num
11:1
100
17
God plagued the people for complaining about the
food
Num
11:33
10,000
18
Ten scouts are killed for their honest report
Num
14:35-36
10 10
19
A man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day
Num
15:32-35
1 1
20
The opposing party is buried alive (with their
families)
Num
16:27
3 9
21
250 burned to death for burning incense
Num
16:35
250 250
22
For complaining about God's killings
Num
16:49
14,700 14,700
23
The massacre of the Aradites
Num
21:1-3
3,000
24
God sent snakes to bite people for complaining
Num
21:6
100
25
Phinehas' double murder: A killing to end God's
killings
Num
25:1-11
24,002 24,002
26
The Midianite massacre: Have you saved the women
alive?
Num
31:1-35
6 200,000
27
God slowly kills the Israelite army
Dt
2:14-16
500,000
28
God the giant killer
Dt
2:21-22
5,000
29
God hardens King Sihon's heart so he can kill him and
all his people
Dt
2:33-34
1 5,000
30
Og and the men, women, and children of 60 cites
Dt
3:3-6
1 60,000
31
The Jericho Massacre
Jos
6:21
1,000
32
Achan and his family are stoned and burned to death
Jos
7:10-12
, 24-26
1 5
33
The Ai massacre
Jos
8:1-25
12,000 12,000
34
God stops the sun so Joshua can kill in the
daylight
Jos
10:10-11
5,000
35
Five kings killed and hung on trees
Jos
10:26
5 10,000
36
Joshua utterly destroys all that breathes as God
commanded
Jos
10:28-42
7 7,000
37
Jabin, Jobab, and all the people of 20 cities
Jos
11:8-12
2 20,000
38
The Anakim: More giant killing
Jos
11:20-21
5,000
39
The Lord delivered the Canaanites and Perizzites
Jg
1:4
10,000 10,000
40
The Jerusalem Massacre
Jg
1:8
1,000
41
Five massacres, a wedding, and some God-proof iron
chariots
Jg
1:9-25
5,000
42
The Lord delivered Chushanrishathaim
Jg
3:7-10
1 1,000
43
Ehud delivers a message from God
Jg
3:15-22
1 1
44
God delivers 10,000 lusty Moabites
Jg
3:28-29
10,000 10,000
45
Shamgar killed 600 Philistines with an ox goad
Jg
3.31
600 600
46
Barak and God massacre the Canaanites
Jg
4:15-16
1,000
47
Jael pounds a tent stake through a sleeping man's
skull
Jg
4:18-22
1 1
48
Gideon's story: The Lord set every man's sword against
his fellow
Jg
7:22
120,000 120,000
49
A city is massacred and 1000 burn to death because of
God's evil spirit
Jg
9:23-57
1,001 2,000
50
The Ammonite Massacre
Jg
11:32-33
20,000
51
Jephthah's Daughter
Jg
11:39
1 1
52
42,000 killed for failing the "shibboleth" test
Jg
12.4-7
, Heb
11.32
42,000 42,000
53
Samson murders 30 men for their clothes
Jg
14:19
30 30
54
Samson kills 1000 men with the jawbone of an ass
Jg
15:14-15
1,000 1,000
55
Samson kills 3000 in a suicide terrorist attack
Jg
16:27-30
3,000 3,000
56
A holy civil war (called by rotting concubine body part
messages)
Jg
20:35-37
65,100 65,100
57
The End of Judges: Two genocides and 200 stolen
virgins
Jg
21.10-14
4,000
58
God kills Eli's sons along with 34,000 Israelite
soldiers
1Sam
2:25
, 1Sam
4:11
34,002 34,002
59
God smote them with hemorrhoids in their secret
parts
1Sam
5:1-12
3,000
60
God killed 50,070 for looking into the ark of the
Lord
1Sam
6:19
50,070 50,070
61
The Lord thundered great thunder upon the
Philistines
1Sam
7:10-11
1,000
62
Another Ammonite Massacre (and another God-inspired
body-part message)
1Sam
11:6-13
1,000
63
Jonathan's very fist slaughter (not counting the one
before)
1Sam
14:12-14
20 20
64
God forces the Philistines to kill each other
1Sam
14:20
1,000
65
The Amalekite genocide
1Sam
15:2-3
10,000
66
Samuel hacks Agag to death before the Lord
1Sam
15:32-33
1 1
67
David or Elhanan killed Goliath
1Sam
17.51
, 2Sam
21.19
1 1
68
David killed 200 Philistines for their foreskins (to
buy his first wife)
1Sam
18.27
200 200
69
The Lord said to David, Go and smite the
Philistines
1Sam
23:2-5
10,000
70
God killed Nabal (and David got his wife and other
stuff)
1Sam
25:38
1 1
71
David committed genocides for the Philistines
1Sam
27.8-11
60,000
72
David spends the day killing Amalekites
1Sam
30:17
1,000
73
God kills Saul, his sons, and his men because Saul
didn't kill all the Amalekites
1Sam
31:2
, 1Chr
10:6
4 100
74
David killed the messenger
2Sam
1.15
1 1
75
David killed Rechab and Baanah, cut off their hands and
feet, and hung up their dead bodies
2Sam
4.12
2 2
76
God helps David smite Philistines from the front and
the rear
2Sam
5:19-25
2,000
77
God killed Uzzah for trying to keep the ark from
falling
2Sam
6:6-7
, 1Chr
13:9-10
1 1
78
David killed 2/3 Moabite POWs and enslaved the rest
2Sam
8.2
667
79
The Lord gave David victory wherever he went
2Sam
8.5
, 10.18
65,850 66,850
80
David killed every male in Edom
2Sam
8.13
, 1Kg
11.15-16
, 1Chr
18.12
, Psalm
60:1
15,000 65,000
81
Thus did David unto all the children of Ammon
2Sam
11.1
, 1Chr
20.1
1,000
82
God slowly kills a baby
2Sam
12:14-18
1 1
83
Famine and human sacrfice: Seven sons of Saul are hung
up before the Lord
2Sam
21:1-9
7 3,000
84
David's mighty men and their amazing killings
2Sam
23
, 1Chr
11
1,403 3,400
85
A couple hundred thousand die because David had a
census
2Sam
24:15
, 1Chr
21:14
70,000 200,000
86
Solomon carried out the deathbed wish of David by
having Joab and Shimei murdered
1Kg
2:29-34
, 2:44-46
2 2
87
A tale of two prophets
1Kg
13:11-24
1 1
88
Jeroboam's son: God kills another child
1Kg
14:17
1 1
89
Jeroboam's family
1Kg
15:29
10
90
Baasha's family and friends
1Kg
16:11-12
20
91
Zimri burns to death
1Kg
16.18-19
1 1
92
The drought of Elijah
1Kg
17.1
, Lk
4.25
, James
5.17-18
3,000
93
Elijah kills 450 religious leaders in a prayer
contest
1Kg
18.22-40
450 450
94
The first God-assisted slaughter of the Syrians
1Kg
20:20-21
10,000
95
God killed 100,000 Syrians for calling him a god of the
hills
1Kg
20:28-29
100,000 100,000
96
God killed 27,000 Syrians by making a wall fall on
them
1Kg
20:30
27,000 27,000
97
God sent a lion to kill a man for not smiting a
prophet
1Kg
20:35-36
1 1
98
God kills Ahab for not killing a captured king
1Kg
20:42
, 22:35
1 1
99
God burned to death 102 men for asking Elijah to come
down from his hill
2Kg
1:10-12
102 102
100
God killed King Ahaziah for asking the wrong God
2Kg
1:16-17
; 2Chr
22:7-9
1 1
101
God sent two bears to rip apart 42 boys for making fun
of a prophet's bald head
2Kg
2:23-24
42 42
102
The Lord delivered the Moabites
2Kg
3:18-25
5,000
103
A skeptic is trampled to death
2Kg
7.2-20
1 1
104
Another seven year famine
2Kg
8:1
7,000
105
Jehoram of Israel
2Kg
9:24
1 1
106
Jezebel
2Kg
9:33-37
1 1
107
Ahab's sons: Seventy heads in two heaps
2Kg
10:6-10
70 70
108
Ahab's hometown family, friends, and priests
2Kg
10:11
20
109
Jehu killed Ahaziah's family
2Kg
10.12-13
, 2Chr
22.7-9
42 42
110
Jehu and his partner kill the rest of Ahab's family
2Kg
10:17
20
111
Jehu assembles the followers of Baal and then
slaughters them all
2Kg
10.18-25
1,000
112
Mattan the priest of Baal and Queen Athaliah
2Kg
11.17-20
2 2
113
God sends lions to eat those that don't fear him
enough
2Kg
17:25-26
10
114
An angel killed 185,000 sleeping soldiers
2Kg
19:34
, Is
37:36
185,000 185,000
115
God caused Sennacherib to be killed by his sons
2Kg
19:37
1 1
116
Josiah killed all the priests of the high places
2Kg
23.20
100
117
Another holy war
1Chr
5:18-22
50,000
118
God killed a half million Israelite soldiers
2Chr
13:17-18
500,000 500,000
119
Jeroboam
2Chr
13:20
1 1
120
God killed a million Ethiopians
2Chr
14:9-14
1,000,000 1,000,000
121
Friendly Fire: God forced "a great multitude" to kill
each other
2Chr
20:22-25
30,000
122
God made Jehoram's bowels fall out
2Chr
21:14-19
1 1
123
God killed Jehoram's sons
2Chr
22:1
3
124
Ahaziah (of Judah)
2Chr
22.7-9
1 1
125
Joash, the princes, and army of Judah
2Chr
24:20-25
1 10,000
126
God destroyed Amaziah
2Chr
25:15-27
1 1000
127
God smote Ahaz with the king of Syria
2Chr
28:1-5
10,000
128
God killed 120,000 valiant men for forsaking him
2Chr
28:6
120,000 120,000
129
The fall of Jerusalem
2Chr
36:16-17
10,000
130
God and Satan kill Job's children and slaves
Job
1:18-19
10 60
131
Hananiah
Jeremiah
28:15-16
1 1
132
Ezekiel's wife
Ezek
24:15-18
1 1
133
Annanias and Sapphira
Acts
5:1-10
2 2
134
Herod
Acts
12:23
1 1
135
Jesus
Rom
8:32
, 1Pet
1.18-20
1 1
Total 2,476,636 24,634,205
Compiled by Steve Wells in
"How many did God kill"





Professor Gloria Emeagwali
Prof. of History/African Studies, CCSU
africahistory.net; vimeo.com/ gloriaemeagwali
Recipient of the 2014 Distinguished Research
Excellence Award, Univ. of Texas at Austin;
2019 Distinguished Africanist Award
New York African Studies Association

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