Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Ukraine @September 22

A few thoughts.

i think there are basics. putin's russia invaded ukraine, and then rationalized it by blaming ukraine, nazis, nato, the west.

he was right that the west did not want to stop east european nations from turning to the west. but he was wrong in not turning himself and seeking to join europe.

he was wrong in favoring autocratic regimes, like assad's, over democratic regimes.

lastly, he is wrong in threatening all of us in the world by stating his willingness to use nuclear weapons to get his way.

how could anyone at this point pretend to know who is responsible for this war continuing? we are not privy to whatever exchanges between ukraine and russia are taking place.

so we can imagine.

putin doesn't want to lose, much less lose face, and will insist on at least getting donbas and the south, including crimea.

maybe ukraine imagines the tide is turning in their favor and want to drive a harder bargain, and don't believe in the dangers of nuclear weapons, or any other weapons.

as an outsider, it is easy for me to say that he should yield at least somewhat to end the war.

we don't really know more, don't know what biden wants, don't know how far macron or erdegan have gotten in negotiations, how much the europeans are willing to pay for the loss of russian natural gas, how much food the rest of the world will be losing, how the longterm results of this might be.

my last thoughts are that we have seen some horrible conflicts in the past couple of decades, including syria, libya, yemen, and now ethiopia. perhaps worst of all, the continuing conflict in east congo. not nearly enough human resources, united nations authority, comes into play to end these situations, or to mitigate the struggles involving immigration, that drive the rightwing politics everyone. a new world order is needed, as putin has made clear to all.

ken

kenneth harrow

professor emeritus

dept of english

michigan state university

517 803-8839

harrow@msu.edu

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A horrible story.

thanks for sharing.

the Ukrainians are making history.

who are the people, if any,  avoiding a diplomatic solution, Russia or Ukraine and her allies?

thanks

toyin

On Fri, 23 Sept 2022 at 05:52, Gloria Emeagwali <gloria.emeagwali@gmail.com> wrote:

https://asiatimes.com/2022/09/ukraine-the-situation-september-22/

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