I would say ethics not certificate that's if I understand the question Prof Toyin Falola. The purpose of education is to produce good citizens not good business men to take a cue from the British psychologist ,Oliver James in his book ,Affluenza
On Tuesday, August 29, 2023, Toyin Falola <toyinfalola@austin.utexas.edu> wrote:
Certificate or ethics?
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Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - The Bola tinubu revolution
The issue is that BAT tendered a certificate from a US university which seems to be generating controversy, with even BAT and the university engaged in conflict over the content of the certificate, as I have read, although ive not looked closely at the issue.
various things don't seem to be adding up with Tinubu.
its an important issue, but after the previous President entered into power while claiming he could not find his school leaving certificate, with the picture of this man giving a press conference to explain this while his VP designate, a professor of law and a senior advocate of nigeria sat at his side, such colossal congruities make me wonder if i should be agitated any more about such issues.
of course, who needs a certification of formal education to lead Africa's most populous country and perhaps biggest economy?
the writer has been making clear that the certificates already gained are of no value given the sorry state of the country run by the certificated, so why not jettison such silly concerns over meaningless formal education and get to work in the knowledge economy defining the modern world?
is the education of the streets not enough?
thanks
toyin
On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 at 21:20, ogunlakaiye <ogunlakaiye@hotmail.com> wrote:
So, bola tinubu should provide vegetables and fruits to the people (of Nigeria) instead of rice and wheat - Augustine Togonu-Bickersteth. Tinubu is not a farmer and old Nigerian farmers have retired from the farms after sending their children to schools who are now engaged in fierce competition with one another to share in the accrued petrol-dollar incomes from the Nigerian-run single product economy, crude oil export. In the Delta, farm lands and fishing ponds have been polluted with crude oil. The proliferation of cancer in the South-South geo-political zone in Nigeria is not as a result of consumptions of dairy products and meat but from the acid rain caused by gas flaring and environmental pollution caused by oil explorers in that area. Reading through the Nigeria Handbook of 1970 (p. 9-21) Nigeria is designed by nature to be paradise on earth for the inhabitants because of its numerous agricultural and mineral resources listed therein. That led the then General Yakubu Gowon's Military Government to inaugurate the Nigerian Council for Science and Technology in May 1970. Eleven Federal Permanent Secretaries, one representative from each of the then twelve states and twelve academics in agricultural, experimental, industrial, medical and environmental sciences were members of the Nigerian Council for Science and Technology.
Addressing the 35 members of the Nigerian Council for Science and Technology at Dodan Barracks on April 10, 1970, General Yakubu Gowon said among other things, "It is my hope that today will similarly symbolize the beginning of a great future for the development of science and technology and their application to the constructive exploitation and utilization of our natural resources. .... I am glad to note that the establishment of this Council has been acclaimed by all who appreciate the important role which science and technology can play in the promotion of the political, economic and social welfare of the people of this country." One of the objectives of the Council according to item (c) shall be, "to ensure the application of the results of scientific activities to the development of agriculture, industry and social welfare in the Federation." Two of the functions of the Council shall be (a) (i) "the application of the results of research and (ii) the transfer of technology into agriculture and industry." Despite millions of pounds sterling pumped into Nigerian Council of Science and Technology at a time when money was not a constraint to Gowon, the Council members proved that they possessed certificates without knowledge which is why Nigeria is still where it is today. Ironically, the same incompetent intellectuals are demanding to consume what their certificates cannot produce. Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju is clamouring over withdrawal of fuel subsidy but he cares less about why the four Nigeria's oil refineries with total installed capacity to refine 445,000 barrels of crude oil per day have not been doing so despite billions of dollars of turn around maintenance spent on the refineries and the employed Nigerian Directors and Engineers, since 2007, have been collecting salaries and allowances for refining zero crude oil.
It is stunning that Nigeria - with the bad reputation that has, rightly or wrongly, followed it at home and abroad, finds itself with a president who seems to have had no recorded past (in this day and age) before a documented criminal life in the US, and whose very identity and academic credentials are being adjudicated in a US Court. The stain, the embarrassment of it all - Chika Okeke-Agulu. In their oversized academic gowns, Nigerian intellectual Oiks and literate oafs are used to churning out rubbish, lies and want the general public to accept them as valuables and truths. How can a person who was a governor of a state in Nigeria for eight years be said to have had no recorded past? Where is the documented criminal life in the US of the said president of Nigeria? What academic credentials is Chika Okeke-Agulu talking about with regards to presidential election in Nigeria, when the least qualification required to contest for an elected office, according to the Constitution of Nigeria, is for the contestant to satisfy the Electoral Commission of his/her proficiency in spoken and written English language? May Amadioha save Nigeria from lycanthropes!!
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On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 11:06:13 PM UTC+2 cornelius...@gmail.com wrote:
Think of all the bad times we've been through and, God willing, pulled out of each and every mess.
The Hebrew word is Bitachon, and a close Islamic equivalent is Tawakkul, in essence, The Reliance of the Traveller, a far cry from The Incoherence of the Philosophers (not that something is or becomes "incoherent" because bird brain does not understand it
We shouldn't be more worried than before , just because we are living at the very end of days; after all if we're at least relatively good, it's 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 all good children go to heaven. So be good, because according to Pastor Femi Ogun the bad people and all those who do not or who have not accepted Jesus as their Lord and Saviour are all going to the other place known as "the lake of fire".
Hon. Minister Louis Farrakhan also says that all of God's enemies are going to perish in THE LAKE OF FIRE, forever and ever.
So, what is temporarily suffering some poverty here, made worse by little irritations such as no more fuel subsidy, the high cost of living, some hunger and starvation, in this Vale of tears , what's all that compared to being downed, not in the Lagos Lagoon but in the lake of fire?
According to the Quran, the fires of hell will be fuelled with stones and the bones of the disbelievers
Chika Okeke-Agulu's frustration with President Tinubu, along with this Ghanaian bloke sounding off here, is a sign of the times and a symptom of the general collapse being witnessed everywhere - indeed," Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world" - look at what's happening with former President Trump, once the most powerful man in the world, and in the United States, look at what's happening in Sudan , watch ECOWAS threatening everlasting chaos in the Sahel, listen to al-Jazeera : Inside Story : Brics
see what just happened with Proghozin ( enough reason for Zelensky to be worried about The Furies) especially after Der Spiegel's disclosures about Nord Stream
I just obeyed Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju's executive order, I googled "poverty capital of the world" ;add to that what's projected to be the population of Nigeria by the year 2050 and we should stop worrying about the past and at least start - seriously - worrying - planning and preparing for the future.
With regard to that future the Jagaban has started off on a good footing with his focus on Food Security
N.B. When it suits him Pastor Femi quotes his Bible that 1,000 years is like a day ( 24 hours) to the Lord ,so, literally, we are not necessarily living in "the last days" and Jesus who according to that calculation has only been gone for two days, is not necessarily coming back to rapture Femi Ogun & Co next tomorrow, or next year....
In today's Dagens Nyheter an article by Björn Wiman begins, " The earth will not, of course, "go away", but it will gradually become more and more difficult to live on for more and more people."
Let us pray....
On Saturday, 26 August 2023 at 18:42:55 UTC+2 Oluwatoyin Adepoju wrote:
Augustine!
Have mercy on us here in Nigeria.
How well were we eating before?
Google ''poverty capital of the world'' and tell us what you find.
My mind is overflowing with what I would like to respond to you, leaving me almost speechless.
People died during the APC induced naira scarcity during the elections.
APC has continued with similar strategies with this style of removing fuel subsidy.
In the drive against GEJ's attempted removal of fuel subsidy years ago, BAT presented a brilliant idea on how to use infrastructural development in making removal of fuel subsidies a nation saving rather than a nation destroying strategy.
Such a realistic approach could take 5 to 10 years.
His party APC has chosen to remove it in one blow, with no preparations.
Why?
As for the so-called palliatives, another idea I'm finding hard to respond to, so frightening it is.
Wages have generally not risen. Transport costs have risen. Fuel costs have escalated astronomically. Food prices have risen sharply.
Those who caused all that are offering food, ostensibly to help us cope.
Factor in the huge population of Nigeria.
How much food can they give, for how long?
Meanwhile BAT and his fellow elected politicians roll in vast sums of the nation's money.
But, really, who are those ants to be crushed by govt policies? How relevant are they?
May the sun rise for Nigeria.
Right now, we are trying to find our way in the dark.
I would be happily shocked if this fuel subsidy removal initiative improves the well being of Nigerians.
toyin
On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 at 04:47, 'Augustine Togonu-Bickersteth' via USA Africa Dialogue Series <usaafric...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
I do not mean to be insensitive but it is good that many nigerians are now hungry due to policies embarked by bola tinubu.
My doctor asked me to lose weight because I suffer from central obesity which exposes me to 14 different types of cancers!
So if nigerians are getting hungry and this in turn is reducing their waistline then its a welcome develoomentb if they become slim and trim. Migerias do not know how to eat.they eat and drink to dullnees.
To bellies full.this is bad.its unhealthy. Mam eats to live and not lives to eat.
. Next to quitting smoking weight loss is the best way of maintaining good health.we are also going to see a drastic reduction in liver problems with less consumption of beer and other alcoholic beverages. Lucky nigeria.when you became more healthy you become more productive and nigeria is richer for it.
Now beef,fish chicken has become more expensive out of the reach of so many nigerias it means less cases of cancer because cancer is the price you pay for eating flesh and diary products.
What do you eat? Lots of vegetables and fruits and less of the other stuff..a rainbow colour of vegetables.
So bola tinubu should provide vegetables and fruits to the people instead of rice and wheat.he should mobilise the vegetable and fruit firmers and embark on public enlightenment of healthy eating and personal finance.some of you can go onto the streets to sell books on healthy eating and personal finance bola tinubu is bring ing about a revolution in personal finance and nutrition.the people must claim this revolution.for instance the women should start cooking with weights and measures in the kitchen and market women should also sell by weight and measures not by arbitrary values or portions.the people must claim the bola tinubu revolution.we should take to revolution to its logical end.revolutions are the locomotive of history so said Karl marx. .
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